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Forum Mafia GM
January 10th, 2013, 05:59 PM
It is very apparent that FuzzywuzzyTown wasn't willing to take any chances and killed anyone who claimed to be Sparticus Doctor. In doing so, they killed 2 citizens, 2 doctors, the SK and a Mafioso. Does anyone else dare to try to claim Doctor after this massacre?*


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u93bhAimFFU

First it was Gandalf (cit), then Pinkie Pie(mafioso), yesterday Rubber Ducky(sk), Anubis(cit), Captain Obvious(doc) and The Joker(doc) also claimed doctor so guess who wound up dead this morning.


Role list:
3-Citizen
5-Mafioso
11-Citizen
14-Vigilante
17-Citizen
22-Citizen
24-Blacksmith
28-Citizen
30-Framer Mafioso
33-Citizen
35-Witch

Player List:
01- FM Agahnim
07- FM Ceasar
14- FM Gimli
15- FM Hamburglar
18- FM Inspector Cluseau
22- FM King Tut
26- FM Michigan J Frog
33- FM Sherlock
34- FM SpongeBob
38- FM Wile E Coyote
39- FM Wolverine


Role list:
1-Citizen: FM Batman - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
2-Citizen: King Arthur - Killed by the SK
3-Citizen
4-Sheriff: Yosemite Sam - Attacked by the Mafia and killed by the Vigilante.
5-Mafioso
6-Citizen: FM Col Jack ONeill - Killed by the Mafia
7-Citizen: FM Hungry - Killed by the Vigilante
8-Citizen: FM Yoda - Killed by the Mafia
9-Doctor: FM Captain Obvious - Killed by the Vigilante
10-GodFather: FM Locutus - Killed by the town
11-Citizen
12-Citizen: FM Lone Ranger - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
13-Citizen: FM Count von Count - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
14-Vigilante
15-Consort: FM Watson - Killed by the town
16-Citizen: FM Anubis - Killed by a gun man.
17-Citizen
18-Citizen: FM Frankenstein - Killed by a gun man.
19-Escort: FM Master Chef - Killed by the SK
20-Serial Killer: FM Rubber Ducky - Killed by the town
21-Citizen: FM Bridge Keeper - Killed by the Vigilante
22-Citizen
23-Citizen: FM Robin Hood - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
24-Blacksmith
25-Consigliere: FM Dracula - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
26-Citizen: FM Mr T - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
27-Citizen: FM Jack Sparrow - Killed by the Mafia
28-Citizen
29-Doctor: FM The Joker - Killed by the Mafia
30-Framer Mafioso
31-Citizen: FM Yehat - Killed by the Mafia
32-Citizen: FM Mr Bunny - Killed by the Mafia
33-Citizen
34-Sheriff: FM Indiana Jones - Killed by the SK
35-Witch
36-Citizen: FM Gandalf - Killed by an angry town mob.
37-Citizen: FM Prince Thrakhath - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
38-Citizen: FM The Terminator - Killed by the SK
39-Jailor: FM Kermit - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
40-Mafioso: Pinkie Pie - Executed by the Jailor
41-Citizen: FM Cookie Monster - Killed by a gun rocket man.
42-Citizen: FM Animal - Killed by a gun man.


Player List:
01- FM Agahnim
02- FM Animal Citizen - Killed by a gun man
03- FM Anubis Citizen - Killed by a gun man
04- FM Batman: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
05- FM Bridge Keeper: Citizen - Killed by the Vigilante
06- FM Captain Obvious: Doctor - Killed by the Vigilante
07- FM Ceasar
08- FM Col Jack ONeill: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
09- FM Cookie Monster: Citizen - Killed by a gun rocket man.
10- FM Count von Count: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
11- FM Dracula: Consigliere - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
12- FM Frankenstein: Citizen - Killed by a gun man.
13- FM Gandalf: Citizen - Killed by an angry town mob.
14- FM Gimli
15- FM Hamburglar
16- FM Hungry: Citizen - Killed by the Vigilante
17- FM Indiana Jones: Sheriff - Killed by the SK
18- FM Inspector Cluseau
19- FM Jack Sparrow: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
20- FM Kermit: Jailor - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
21- FM King Arthur: Citizen - Killed by the SK
22- FM King Tut
23- FM Locutus: GodFather - Killed by the Town
24- FM Lone Ranger: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
25- FM Master Chef: Escort - Killed by the SK
26- FM Michigan J Frog
27- FM Mr Bunny: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
28- FM Mr T: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
29- FM Pinkie Pie: Mafioso - Executed by the Jailor
30- FM Prince Thrakhath: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
31- FM Robin Hood: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
32- FM Rubber Ducky: SK - Killed by the Town
33- FM Sherlock
34- FM SpongeBob
35- FM The Joker: Doctor - Killed by the Mafia
36- FM The Terminator: Citizen - Killed by the SK
37- FM Watson: Consort - Killed by the Town
38- FM Wile E Coyote
39- FM Wolverine
40- FM Yehat: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
41- FM Yoda: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
42- FM Yosemite Sam: Sheriff - Attacked by the Mafia and killed by the Vigilante.


Players alive: 11 (8 town vs 3 scum)
6

Day will end Saturday Jan 12th 8pm GMT-5 (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=January+12th+8pm+GMT-5)

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 06:24 PM
You are not Spartacus

FM Ceasar
January 10th, 2013, 06:26 PM
Well, fuck. I was expecting a Doctor Alliance, and instead, both Doctors die...

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:31 PM
Dafuq did they do wrong with their night actions?
How utterly moronic do you have to be to FAIL TO HEAL THE MOST OBVIOUS KILL TARGETS EVER?

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:36 PM
3-Citizen - Agahnim
5-Mafioso - Spongebob/Wolverine/Gimli/King Tut
11-Citizen - Frog
14-Vigilante - Sherlock
17-Citizen - Gimli/King Tut
22-Citizen - Hamburgler
24-Blacksmith - Ceasar
28-Citizen - Wile E Coyote
30-Framer Mafioso - Spongebob/Wolverine/Gimli/King Tut
33-Citizen - Spongebob/Wolverine/Gimli/King Tut
35-Witch - Spongebob/Wolverine/Gimli/King Tut



01- FM Agahnim
07- FM Ceasar
14- FM Gimli
15- FM Hamburglar
18- FM Inspector Cluseau
22- FM King Tut
26- FM Michigan J Frog
33- FM Sherlock
34- FM SpongeBob
38- FM Wile E Coyote
39- FM Wolverine






Discussion of the day:

Spongebob/Wolverine/Gimli/King Tut

Which of these players do we lynch first?

Only one of them is Citizen imo.
Who agrees/Disagrees and why?

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:37 PM
Anubis(cit), Captain Obvious(doc) and The Joker(doc)


These three died tonight.

GM please stop trolling and give descriptions as to what killed who.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:37 PM
Anubis(cit), Captain Obvious(doc) and The Joker(doc)


These three died tonight.

GM please stop trolling and give descriptions as to what killed who.


nvm! my sorry!

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 06:37 PM
My name is on that list 5 times. I feel popular.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:38 PM
My thought:

FM Spongebob

FM Hamburglar
January 10th, 2013, 06:39 PM
FM Wolverine
witch, die

FM Hamburglar
January 10th, 2013, 06:40 PM
I received the gun tonight, and am gonna do whatever needs to be done.
So just vote wolverine already.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:40 PM
3-Citizen - Agahnim
5-Mafioso - Spongebob/Wolverine/Gimli/King Tut
11-Citizen - Frog
14-Vigilante - Sherlock
17-Citizen - Spongebob/Wolverine/Gimli/King Tut
22-Citizen - Hamburgler
24-Blacksmith - Ceasar
28-Citizen - Wile E Coyote
30-Framer Mafioso - Spongebob/Wolverine/Gimli/King Tut
33-Citizen - Spongebob/Wolverine/Gimli/King Tut
35-Witch - Spongebob/Wolverine/Gimli/King Tut



Corrected

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 06:41 PM
If we get the witch that would prevent a misfire...

Forum Mafia GM
January 10th, 2013, 06:43 PM
Anubis(cit), Captain Obvious(doc) and The Joker(doc)


These three died tonight.

GM please stop trolling and give descriptions as to what killed who.

... Read Graveyard?

FM Hamburglar
January 10th, 2013, 06:44 PM
01- FM Agahnim
07- FM Ceasar
14- FM Gimli
15- FM Hamburglar
18- FM Inspector Cluseau
22- FM King Tut
26- FM Michigan J Frog
33- FM Sherlock
34- FM SpongeBob
38- FM Wile E Coyote
39- FM Wolverine

Light green - town
dark green - probably town
red - SCUM
grey - still not convinced

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:44 PM
Goddamnit.

Need to review list again. its incorrect still

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:44 PM
... Read Graveyard?

I said my sorry.......

T.T
T.T

FM Hamburglar
January 10th, 2013, 06:45 PM
Agahnim and Cluseau are in the running with spongebob and king tut, but i suspect the latter 2 to be scum more than the first 2. we have a lot of ammunition once we get rid off the witch though.

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 06:46 PM
01- FM Agahnim
07- FM Ceasar
14- FM Gimli
15- FM Hamburglar
18- FM Inspector Cluseau
22- FM King Tut
26- FM Michigan J Frog
33- FM Sherlock
34- FM SpongeBob
38- FM Wile E Coyote
39- FM Wolverine

Light green - town
dark green - probably town
red - SCUM
grey - still not convinced

That's cute. Your scumdar needs tweaking.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:47 PM
3-Citizen - Agahnim
5-Mafioso - Spongebob/Wolverine/King Tut/Gimli
11-Citizen - Frog
14-Vigilante - Sherlock
17-Citizen - Inspector Cluseau
22-Citizen - Hamburgler
24-Blacksmith - Ceasar
28-Citizen - Wile E Coyote
30-Framer Mafioso - Spongebob/Wolverine/King Tut/Gimli
33-Citizen - Spongebob/Wolverine/King Tut/Gimli
35-Witch - Spongebob/Wolverine/King Tut/Gimli



01- FM Agahnim x
07- FM Ceasar x
14- FM Gimli x
15- FM Hamburglar x
18- FM Inspector Cluseau x
22- FM King Tut x
26- FM Michigan J Frog x
33- FM Sherlock x
34- FM SpongeBob x
38- FM Wile E Coyote x
39- FM Wolverine x

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:49 PM
Personal Theory:


3-Citizen - Agahnim
5-Mafioso - Gimli
11-Citizen - Frog
14-Vigilante - Sherlock
17-Citizen - Inspector Cluseau
22-Citizen - Hamburgler
24-Blacksmith - Ceasar
28-Citizen - Wile E Coyote
30- Framer Mafioso - Wolverine
33-Citizen - King Tut
35-Witch - Spongebob

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 06:50 PM
I claim....

BANKRUPTCY

FM Hamburglar
January 10th, 2013, 06:51 PM
Thoughts on
Cluseau : Trolled alot, was never really helpful
Tut : Just trolling
Gimli : ???? last day seemed hella protown, besides that he was the heaviest lurker amonst all living players.
Wolverine : No need to be discussed. Lynch now, no witchings tonight. (he had the gun and the vigi shot.)
Spongebob : No srsly, he acted the most scum out of them all.
Agahnim : Been in discussion for so long, but i dno.

Scumlist in order of priority:

Wolverine
Spongebob
Tie, but i'll go with Tut. We have mislynches and guns after we get rid of 2.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:53 PM
My reason for Gimli over King Tut:

King Tut has does exactly as Clue has this entire game.
Troll with a brief instance of usefulness.
They are both very very vocal and are not afraid to butt heads with someone else, who is more likely town such as MYself, Frog, Ceasar, Hamburgler etc.
With Scum in such a precarious position I feel that they would not act as they have to this point in time.


Gimli has done very little except for blend, lurk, and get flustered about me calling him out on his shitty defense.

WHO USES REPLACEMENTS AS AN EXCUSE FOR BEING TOWN??!@?#!@?#!@?#!@#?!@


But I am willing to put that aside from todays discussion as it'll be akin to beating a dead horse.


Wolverine was not witched last night and yet he chose to shoot Anubis in lieu of say King Tut or Spongebob who I felt were much better targets for killing.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:54 PM
I claim....

BANKRUPTCY

Comeon. Get serious

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:54 PM
My reason for Gimli over King Tut:

King Tut has does exactly as Clue has this entire game.
Troll with a brief instance of usefulness.
They are both very very vocal and are not afraid to butt heads with someone else, who is more likely town such as MYself, Frog, Ceasar, Hamburgler etc.
With Scum in such a precarious position I feel that they would not act as they have to this point in time.


Gimli has done very little except for blend, lurk, and get flustered about me calling him out on his shitty defense.

WHO USES REPLACEMENTS AS AN EXCUSE FOR BEING TOWN??!@?#!@?#!@?#!@#?!@


But I am willing to put that aside from todays discussion as it'll be akin to beating a dead horse.


Wolverine was not witched last night and yet he chose to shoot Anubis in lieu of say King Tut or Spongebob who I felt were much better targets for killing.

Well Tut has lurked over half the game.

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 06:54 PM
I haven't been trolling that much have I? >.>
I thought I was more AFK than trolling tbh.

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 06:55 PM
Well Tut has lurked over half the game.

My thoughts exactly.

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 06:55 PM
Yo dog, I suspected Ducky. Also J Frog is dat Witch yo

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:55 PM
I haven't been trolling that much have I? >.>
I thought I was more AFK than trolling tbh.

Scum list and reason for it please?

Forum Mafia GM
January 10th, 2013, 06:56 PM
I claim....

BANKRUPTCY

Do you remember Prince Thrakhath, Mr T and Kermit?

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:56 PM
Yo dog, I suspected Ducky. Also J Frog is dat Witch yo

I Suspected Ducky.

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 06:57 PM
Scum list and reason for it please?

Don't have one atm. I only trust confirmed people since I've been AFK for so long.

FM Hamburglar
January 10th, 2013, 06:58 PM
ofc he wasnt, he witched sherlock like he does every night. So can we finally get rid off him? There are no claims left, as everybody besides ceasar and sherlock claims cit.

Let's do the run down:

We lynch Wolverine who flips town (1%):
next day 5 town vs 3 scum
Probably ceasar and sherlock bite the dust BUT we still have 2 guns with 3 almost confirmed citizens:
shoot 2 lynch 3 town 2 scum at the very worst.
Easy lynching on the last day 2v1

Town wins even in the unlikeliest case that wolverine should not flip witch.

I will also hold onto my gun, and i advise you to gun Wile E who seemed to be the most protown citizen so far.
Since we'll lose 2 out of these 3 tonight (if we dont hit witch)

Ceasar Sherlock Hamburglar

We can leave the discussion of the other scum for the next day.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 06:58 PM
Don't have one atm. I only trust confirmed people since I've been AFK for so long.

MAKE ONE YOU WASTEFUL PIECE OF..

grr.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:00 PM
ofc he wasnt, he witched sherlock like he does every night. So can we finally get rid off him? There are no claims left, as everybody besides ceasar and sherlock claims cit.

Let's do the run down:

We lynch Wolverine who flips town (1%):
next day 5 town vs 3 scum
Probably ceasar and sherlock bite the dust BUT we still have 2 guns with 3 almost confirmed citizens:
shoot 2 lynch 3 town 2 scum at the very worst.
Easy lynching on the last day 2v1

Town wins even in the unlikeliest case that wolverine should not flip witch.

I will also hold onto my gun, and i advise you to gun Wile E who seemed to be the most protown citizen so far.
Since we'll lose 2 out of these 3 tonight (if we dont hit witch)

Ceasar Sherlock Hamburglar

We can leave the discussion of the other scum for the next day.


Why you suspect Wolverine over Spongebob

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 07:01 PM
MAKE ONE YOU WASTEFUL PIECE OF..

grr.

Looks like I don't have to. You all have one for me to analyze myself. Maho!

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:02 PM
Looks like I don't have to. You all have one for me to analyze myself. Maho!

:|


Suicide.
Now.

FM Hamburglar
January 10th, 2013, 07:03 PM
Why you suspect Wolverine over Spongebob

cuz sponge is a mafioso

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:04 PM
cuz sponge is a mafioso

Why do you suspect that

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 07:06 PM
Again- J Frog is dat Witch, yo

FM Hamburglar
January 10th, 2013, 07:07 PM
Why do you suspect that
Because of the way the votes went. You can check back for those, but he never voted for maf members iirc.

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 07:09 PM
Again- J Frog is dat Witch, yo

Yo

FM Hamburglar
January 10th, 2013, 07:10 PM
You do realize you seem scummy if you just throw an accusation out there without any evidence to back it up?

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 07:11 PM
:|


Suicide.
Now.
It's called.

"Kill yaself"

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 07:11 PM
You do realize you seem scummy if you just throw an accusation out there without any evidence to back it up?

Yea dude.

FM Wile E Coyote
January 10th, 2013, 07:11 PM
What the hell went wrong last night?
How could the doctors fuck this up this badly?

Anyway...

As does a few of you guys, I think our main focus should be Wolverine and Spongebob.

I have to say; I am leaning towards Wolverine being Mafioso and Spongebob being the Witch.

Spongebob witched Sherlock on Captain Obvious
Mafioso #1 killed The Joker
Mafioso #2 (Wolverine) shot Anubis, knowing he was Town.

FM Spongebob

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:11 PM
Best Vigi+Gunman shot if Rubber Ducky flips Serial Killer:
Shoot Anubis

Hm.


If Ducky flips scum, shoot Anubis (Sorry buddy if you are town, but it's simply too unlikely that you woul stay alive for so long if you were town)

This just makes me seem more likely to place him town.
I'm not sure.




I want to hear from Ceasar Frog and Wolverine today about their biggest scum FoS's

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:13 PM
Spongebob L-3 atm with reduced vote tally count

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 07:14 PM
FM Wolverine

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:15 PM
Just so everyone is aware:

Spongebob is the safe lynch.

It's the dice roll of Wolverine/Gimli/King Tut that is difficult.

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 07:16 PM
wht do you think spongebob is? aghanim

FM SpongeBob
January 10th, 2013, 07:17 PM
Just so everyone is aware:

Spongebob is the safe lynch.

It's the dice roll of Wolverine/Gimli/King Tut that is difficult.

Now why am I the safe lynch?

I know for sure I really messed up in the past.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:19 PM
wht do you think spongebob is? aghanim

Witch obviously?


Now why am I the safe lynch?

I know for sure I really messed up in the past.

Contradictory statement.

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 07:19 PM
Now why am I the safe lynch?

I know for sure I really messed up in the past.

The only person worse than Cuseau is Spongebob

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:22 PM
The only person worse than Cuseau is Spongebob

I wanna hit you.

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 07:24 PM
I wanna hit you.

Do it.

FM Hamburglar
January 10th, 2013, 07:25 PM
k, lets do it your way then, having a mafioso less won't help our cause but
FM Spongebob

FM Wile E Coyote
January 10th, 2013, 07:25 PM
I didn't realize we were so close to the hammer.

I'll revote later; unless the situation somehow changes drastically.

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 07:27 PM
ok so spongebob is the witch. Maho!
I shall try to vote later.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:27 PM
I was wrong.

11 players alive /2 (5.whatever) +1 = 6 to lynch

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:31 PM
IF WE LYNCH SPONGEBOB AND HE FLIPS MAFIOSO:

8 v 2
--
6 v 2
--
Mislynch Town (Worst Case)
5 V 2
--
3 v 2
(Lynch Scum Hopefully)
--
3 v 1








If lynch Town at: 3v2 Town loses :(

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:32 PM
IF WE LYNCH SPONGEBOB AND HE FLIPS MAFIOSO:

8 v 2
--
6 v 2
--
Mislynch Town (Worst Case)
5 V 2
--
3 v 1
(Lynch Scum Hopefully)
--
2 v 1


Corrected

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:32 PM
The above ignores blacksmith

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:34 PM
@ANYBODY WHO TRIES SAYING FROG IS SCUM FOR BEING WRONG ON EACH READ!

I have been wrong on several reads as has most other players.

Come up with better material if you want to call someone scum.

FM SpongeBob
January 10th, 2013, 07:37 PM
ummm... and here I was saying about me being wrong. and look where I am

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:37 PM
ummm... and here I was saying about me being wrong. and look where I am

dafuq?

Come up with a defense goddamnit

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:39 PM
=FM GimliI think we need to kill a doctor claim to clear up the mass confusion. I believe scum will not attack doctors to keep up their confusion. I really hope no retarded citizen claimed doctor in order for protection because then they really be harmful.

-vote FM SpongeBob



Wow. What a scummy post.

FM SpongeBob
January 10th, 2013, 07:43 PM
dafuq?

Come up with a defense goddamnit

defense? i can see it myself. how much into the hole i am. i was FoSing a cit...which is killed the next night due to Ceaser's orders, and the person i was defending turned out to be SK.

kinda sucks for me

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 07:44 PM
defense? i can see it myself. how much into the hole i am. i was FoSing a cit...which is killed the next night due to Ceaser's orders, and the person i was defending turned out to be SK.

kinda sucks for me

:|

Suicide.

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 07:48 PM
:|

Suicide.

I already told you, it's "Kill yaself!" MAHO!

FM SpongeBob
January 10th, 2013, 07:48 PM
:|

Suicide.

everyone keeps saying that, stop trying to get replacements

FM Gimli
January 10th, 2013, 07:53 PM
I think we should wait for others to come on and and see some reads. Also you seem really scummy yourself Agahnim. Have any of you suspects been right so far except for Rubber Ducky. Its very obvious that you are targeting only lurkers.

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 07:56 PM
I think we should wait for others to come on and and see some reads. Also you seem really scummy yourself Agahnim. Have any of you suspects been right so far except for Rubber Ducky. Its very obvious that you are targeting only lurkers.

In his defense lurkers do need to be targeted to bring them out into the open and talk....

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:06 PM
I think we should wait for others to come on and and see some reads. Also you seem really scummy yourself Agahnim. Have any of you suspects been right so far except for Rubber Ducky. Its very obvious that you are targeting only lurkers.

False.

Spongebob is not the much of a lurker.
Wolverine is not a lurker
King Tut is a lurker
Gimli is a lurker
Captain Obvious was not a lurker.
Jack was not a lurker.
Anubis was not a lurker.
Pinkie Pie was not a lurker.



STOP USING SHIT FOR YOUR DEFENSE

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 08:07 PM
His defense was an anti-town one nonetheless.

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 08:07 PM
Maho!

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:08 PM
False.

Spongebob is not the much of a lurker.
Wolverine is not a lurker
King Tut is a lurker
Gimli is a lurker
Captain Obvious was not a lurker.
Jack was not a lurker.
Anubis was not a lurker.
Pinkie Pie was not a lurker.



STOP USING SHIT FOR YOUR DEFENSE

And of this:

Jack was Town <--- False FoS
Anubis was town <--- False FoS
Pinkie Pie was Mafia. <-- Correct FoS
Rubber Ducky was Serial Killer. <--- Correct FoS
Spongebob ????
Gimli ????
Wolverine ????
King Tut ????

FM Michigan J Frog
January 10th, 2013, 08:08 PM
I think we should wait for others to come on and and see some reads. Also you seem really scummy yourself Agahnim. Have any of you suspects been right so far except for Rubber Ducky. Its very obvious that you are targeting only lurkers.

I agree with this. Gimli is super town. Never lynch him.

Also, I think we are going in the wrong direction with a spongebob lynch. Wolverine is my biggest suspect for witch. I'm going to re-evaluate my reads because I guess I was wrong about Rubber Ducky. That really came out of nowhere imo except for his fail claim. I'm going to re-read his posts and see if I can find any info about his missing kills.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:10 PM
I think we should wait for others to come on and and see some reads. Also you seem really scummy yourself Agahnim. Have any of you suspects been right so far except for Rubber Ducky. Its very obvious that you are targeting only lurkers.

Again I ask:

How am I sooooo scummy?

Loctus FoS'd me.
Pinkie FoS'd me.
Frog FoS me.
You FoS me



And everyone else seems to be on the fence.


Ceasar and Frog have been the only two to actively look through my posts for why I am so scummy and Frog said himself I was not as scummy as he believed. (Said D2 or D3. Not sure. But hey.)

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:11 PM
I agree with this. Gimli is super town. Never lynch him.

Also, I think we are going in the wrong direction with a spongebob lynch. Wolverine is my biggest suspect for witch. I'm going to re-evaluate my reads because I guess I was wrong about Rubber Ducky. That really came out of nowhere imo except for his fail claim. I'm going to re-read his posts and see if I can find any info about his missing kills.

DAfuq?

Came out of nowhere?
He was a huge suspect, imo, until he claimed and then failed at it. (Granted I accepted his claim at face value without reading it fully.)

FM Wile E Coyote
January 10th, 2013, 08:11 PM
I think we should wait for others to come on and and see some reads. Also you seem really scummy yourself Agahnim. Have any of you suspects been right so far except for Rubber Ducky. Its very obvious that you are targeting only lurkers.

And then again; most of us made mistakes.
I gave the benefit of the doubt to Rubber Ducky at the time and had my doubt that Anubis was the scum out of the two. My main suspect was Captain Obvious.
We can see how that turned out with Rubber's lynch.

And tell me; What have you done yesterday apart from (Again) accusing Agahnim?
Rubber Ducky made a huge scumslip and you didn't even mention it in your posts.

I'm not saying I completely believe Agahnim to be town yet. Although he made the good call on Rubber Ducky; I still have this feeling that he MAY be Mafia along with Wolverine. Slight chances, but I'm not ignoring it. He's definitely not on my priority list.
Spongebob>Wolverine>You>King Tut.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:12 PM
I agree with this. Gimli is super town. Never lynch him.

Also, I think we are going in the wrong direction with a spongebob lynch. Wolverine is my biggest suspect for witch. I'm going to re-evaluate my reads because I guess I was wrong about Rubber Ducky. That really came out of nowhere imo except for his fail claim. I'm going to re-read his posts and see if I can find any info about his missing kills.

How is he super town?
Please explain.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:15 PM
And then again; most of us made mistakes.
I gave the benefit of the doubt to Rubber Ducky at the time and had my doubt that Anubis was the scum out of the two. My main suspect was Captain Obvious.
We can see how that turned out with Rubber's lynch.

And tell me; What have you done yesterday apart from (Again) accusing Agahnim?
Rubber Ducky made a huge scumslip and you didn't even mention it in your posts.

I'm not saying I completely believe Agahnim to be town yet. Although he made the good call on Rubber Ducky; I still have this feeling that he MAY be Mafia along with Wolverine. Slight chances, but I'm not ignoring it. He's definitely not on my priority list.
Spongebob>Wolverine>You>King Tut.

I said he was scummy till he made the claim Doctor.
Captain Obvious picked up the slip I missed.

FM Gimli
January 10th, 2013, 08:17 PM
Any Suspect that were right!! Sheriff Got Pinkie Pie btw
King Tut is a lurker
Spongebob was warned for lurking; are you kidding me he lurks like the batman

Your on my unknown list because u pay to much attention to lurkers from day 2

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:17 PM
Frog please share with us mere mortals the gifts of which you can use to tell who is town and who is not!!!

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:18 PM
Any Suspect that were right!! Sheriff Got Pinkie Pie btw
King Tut is a lurker
Spongebob was warned for lurking; are you kidding me he lurks like the batman

Your on my unknown list because u pay to much attention to lurkers from day 2

Spongebob active lurks most of the time.



I CALLED PINKIE PIE OUT AS SCUM BEFORE SHERIFF REVEALED HIS INFO PLEBEIAN.
PAY ATTENTION

FM Michigan J Frog
January 10th, 2013, 08:19 PM
Rubber Ducky:
There wasn't a lot, and most of it I didn't find very useful except for his reads:

Day 2 #667

The lurkers, People like Batman, Joker, Wolverine, Spongebob.

I will post more in a sec, I am in the middle of traveling and my phone is dying, Give me 30-1 hour to respond to anything

Day 5 #490

Blah blah spongebob is suspicious


I think as the SK, Rubber Ducky tried to FoS players that he thought weren't scum. It could be some reverse WIFOM, but for now I think this gives Wolverine and Spongebob + town points for me. Let me just make a distinction here though: On Day 2, Rubber Ducky would know the identity of one scum player, and by Day 5 he would know the identity of 2 scum players based on his kills that didn't go through. I still think that on Day 2, Rubber Ducky believed that his 4 FoS targets were mislynchable town, and it's interesting that he doesn't talk about Wolverine in detail on Day 5, too.

FM Michigan J Frog
January 10th, 2013, 08:19 PM
Rubber Ducky:
There wasn't a lot, and most of it I didn't find very useful except for his reads:

Day 2 #667


Day 5 #490



I think as the SK, Rubber Ducky tried to FoS players that he thought weren't scum. It could be some reverse WIFOM, but for now I think this gives Wolverine and Spongebob + town points for me. Let me just make a distinction here though: On Day 2, Rubber Ducky would know the identity of one scum player, and by Day 5 he would know the identity of 2 scum players based on his kills that didn't go through. I still think that on Day 2, Rubber Ducky believed that his 4 FoS targets were mislynchable town, and it's interesting that he doesn't talk about Wolverine in detail on Day 5, too.

Also, I paraphrased the Day 5 #490 post, but that's the gist of it. You can reference the actual post for Rubber Ducky's reasoning.

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 08:20 PM
Wolverine was not witched last night and yet he chose to shoot Anubis in lieu of say King Tut or Spongebob who I felt were much better targets for killing.

Did you now? That's funny, because yesterday you said, and I quote (post #411):


Best Vigi+Gunman shot if Rubber Ducky flips Serial Killer:
Shoot Anubis

Best Vigi+Gunman shot if Rubber Ducky Flip Witch:
Anubis

Best Vigi+Gunman shot if Rubber Ducky Flips Doctor:
Captain Obvious

So Spongebob or King Tut were "much better targets" yet you told me/Sherlock to kill Anubis. Fascinating. I also distinctly remember you defending King Tut yesterday when I said he was scummy. Something about how trolls are always town.

Oh, and here's the quote from Ceasar (#382) telling me who to shoot:


Okay Wolverine, here is the game plan.

If Ducky flips scum, shoot Anubis (Sorry buddy if you are town, but it's simply too unlikely that you woul stay alive for so long if you were town)

If Ducky flips town, shoot Obvioius (Obvious reasonsing, no pun intended)

YOU were one of the people who told me to shoot Anubis, but somehow the fact that he flipped cit means I'm to blame?! I'm beginning to think Frog is right not to trust you. This seems like blatant back-tracking by scum to try and convince us you "knew he was town the whole time" or some other bullshit. I'm not falling for it.

FM Agahnim

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:21 PM
Did you now? That's funny, because yesterday you said, and I quote (post #411):



So Spongebob or King Tut were "much better targets" yet you told me/Sherlock to kill Anubis. Fascinating. I also distinctly remember you defending King Tut yesterday when I said he was scummy. Something about how trolls are always town.

Oh, and here's the quote from Ceasar (#382) telling me who to shoot:



YOU were one of the people who told me to shoot Anubis, but somehow the fact that he flipped cit means I'm to blame?! I'm beginning to think Frog is right not to trust you. This seems like blatant back-tracking by scum to try and convince us you "knew he was town the whole time" or some other bullshit. I'm not falling for it.

FM Agahnim

Yeah I already said that today.
Kinda late bro

FM Michigan J Frog
January 10th, 2013, 08:22 PM
How is he super town?
Please explain.

I've explained this before. Gimli was replaced, and Gimli's actions just read bored cit replacing out to me way more than scum replacing out. Same with Hamburglar, too, I guess.

FM Gimli
January 10th, 2013, 08:26 PM
Your on my unknown list because u pay to much attention to lurkers from day 2

Dammit I didn't think of this before. Mafia would pay attention to lurkers because they want to get a easy lynch kill or not target such a person. keep this into mind.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:27 PM
Dammit I didn't think of this before. Mafia would pay attention to lurkers because they want to get a easy lynch kill or not target such a person. keep this into mind.

Explains why they killed lurkers for roughly 4 days straight.

I'll slightly put you town over the others but only because I can see someone asking to be replaced. (AKA ASKING! NOT FORCIBLY REPLACING.)

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:28 PM
Explains why they killed lurkers for roughly 4 days straight.

I'll slightly put you town over the others but only because I can see someone asking to be replaced. (AKA ASKING! NOT FORCIBLY REPLACING.)

As citizen**

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:29 PM
Best Vigi+Gunman shot if Rubber Ducky flips Serial Killer:
Shoot Anubis

Hm.


If Ducky flips scum, shoot Anubis (Sorry buddy if you are town, but it's simply too unlikely that you woul stay alive for so long if you were town)
This just makes me seem more likely to place him town.
I'm not sure.




I want to hear from Ceasar Frog and Wolverine today about their biggest scum FoS's


:|

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:30 PM
:|

This just makes me seem more likely to place him town.**my words**

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:37 PM
#Frog

If I was dead today who would you suspect most?

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:37 PM
#Frog

If I was dead today who would you suspect most?

Make a list of three people you most highly suspect if I was dead already.

FM SpongeBob
January 10th, 2013, 08:38 PM
#Frog

If I was dead today who would you suspect most?

Theres only one person voting for you right now

FM Michigan J Frog
January 10th, 2013, 08:38 PM
Dammit I didn't think of this before. Mafia would pay attention to lurkers because they want to get a easy lynch kill or not target such a person. keep this into mind.

What? Sorry can you rephrase this? I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:39 PM
Theres only one person voting for you right now

Your point is what exactly?

FM Michigan J Frog
January 10th, 2013, 08:42 PM
Make a list of three people you most highly suspect if I was dead already.

I don't see why it matters. Why should I write a list of my suspects if you're dead? This is just busy work that will distract me from analyzing the game on my own. I'll give you guys a list of my scum suspects. I don't think Wolverine or Spongebob are that suspicious based on Rubber Ducky FoS'ing them, but that means I need to overhaul my scum suspect list especially since Anubis flipped town.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:43 PM
I don't see why it matters. Why should I write a list of my suspects if you're dead? This is just busy work that will distract me from analyzing the game on my own. I'll give you guys a list of my scum suspects. I don't think Wolverine or Spongebob are that suspicious based on Rubber Ducky FoS'ing them, but that means I need to overhaul my scum suspect list especially since Anubis flipped town.

Just bear with me.

Say I suicided last night and flipped citizen and it is then 7 v 3.

Who would be your top suspects?

FM SpongeBob
January 10th, 2013, 08:45 PM
Just bear with me.

Say I suicided last night and flipped citizen and it is then 7 v 3.

Who would be your top suspects?

You can't suicide

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:47 PM
You can't suicide

IT IS OBVIOUSLY A HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION YOU DIMWITTED PINT-SIZED UTTER WASTE OF BREATH.

FM SpongeBob
January 10th, 2013, 08:48 PM
IT IS OBVIOUSLY A HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION YOU DIMWITTED PINT-SIZED UTTER WASTE OF BREATH.

And anger turns to aggression.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:48 PM
And anger turns to aggression.

Shoot this man Hamburgler.
Shoot. Him.

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 08:49 PM
No. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to suffering. Such is the way of the dark side.

So do we have a roles list with claims on it?

FM Gimli
January 10th, 2013, 08:51 PM
What? Sorry can you rephrase this? I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

Mafia doesn't target Lurkers for a reason!!

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:52 PM
No. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to suffering. Such is the way of the dark side.

So do we have a roles list with claims on it?

Claims:
Citizen - Agahnim
Citizen - Frog
Citizen - King Tut
Citizen - Gimli
Citizen - Wile E Coyote
Citizen - Wolverine
Citizen - Spongebob
Blacksmith - Ceasar
Vigilante - Sherlock
Citizen - Inspector Cluseau
Citizen - Hanburgler

My Viewpoint - Rolelist

Role List:
3-Citizen - Hamburgler
5-Mafioso - ???
11-Citizen - Wolverine/Spongebob/King Tut/Gimli
14-Vigilante - Sherlock
17-Citizen - Inspector Clue
22-Citizen - Agahnim
24-Blacksmith - Ceasar
28-Citizen - Wile E Coyote
30-Framer Mafioso - ???
33-Citizen - Frog
35-Witch - ???

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:53 PM
Mafia doesn't target Lurkers for a reason!!

THEY HAVE BEEN KILLING LURKERS FOR ROUGHLY 4 DAYS STRAIGHT

FM Michigan J Frog
January 10th, 2013, 08:54 PM
Just bear with me.

Say I suicided last night and flipped citizen and it is then 7 v 3.

Who would be your top suspects?

Honestly my scum reads don't matter on you flipping cit or mafia.

After reading some ISOs, Spongebob, King Tut, and Cluseau look really null and trolly. It's really hard for me to tell much about their alignments which is why I think we might need to go for some policy lynches.

@Hamburglar, what gave you your town read on Wile E Coyote. For me, he's leaning town, but it could help if you explained why he's such a strong town read of yours.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 08:56 PM
Honestly my scum reads don't matter on you flipping cit or mafia.

After reading some ISOs, Spongebob, King Tut, and Cluseau look really null and trolly. It's really hard for me to tell much about their alignments which is why I think we might need to go for some policy lynches.

@Hamburglar, what gave you your town read on Wile E Coyote. For me, he's leaning town, but it could help if you explained why he's such a strong town read of yours.

I..see? What does this mean exactly?


Claims:
Citizen - Agahnim
Citizen - Frog
Citizen - King Tut
Citizen - Gimli
Citizen - Wile E Coyote
Citizen - Wolverine
Citizen - Spongebob
Blacksmith - Ceasar
Vigilante - Sherlock
Citizen - Inspector Cluseau
Citizen - Hanburgler

My Viewpoint - Rolelist

Role List:
3-Citizen - Hamburgler
5-Mafioso - ???
11-Citizen - Wolverine/Spongebob/King Tut/Gimli
14-Vigilante - Sherlock
17-Citizen - Inspector Clue
22-Citizen - Agahnim
24-Blacksmith - Ceasar
28-Citizen - Wile E Coyote
30-Framer Mafioso - ???
33-Citizen - Frog
35-Witch - ???


What do you think of this? What would you amend in it?

FM Michigan J Frog
January 10th, 2013, 08:58 PM
Claims:
Citizen - Agahnim
Citizen - Frog
Citizen - King Tut
Citizen - Gimli
Citizen - Wile E Coyote
Citizen - Wolverine
Citizen - Spongebob
Blacksmith - Ceasar
Vigilante - Sherlock
Citizen - Inspector Cluseau
Citizen - Hanburgler

My Viewpoint - Rolelist

Role List:
3-Citizen - Hamburgler
5-Mafioso - ???
11-Citizen - Wolverine/Spongebob/King Tut/Gimli
14-Vigilante - Sherlock
17-Citizen - Inspector Clue
22-Citizen - Agahnim
24-Blacksmith - Ceasar
28-Citizen - Wile E Coyote
30-Framer Mafioso - ???
33-Citizen - Frog
35-Witch - ???

I guess my problem with your role lists is your continued insistence that Inspector Cluseau is town especially when I think he seems rather scummy based on past interactions with mafia members (making a huge deal about hammering the consort). We've already crossed off that Cluseau is a power role trying to act scummy to hide, and so what's left is that Cluseau is mafia asking for attention to escape attention or a really trolly anti-town citizen. How does this warrant a citizen slot on your role list over someone like Gimli?

Hamburglar, yourself, Wile E, and myself I could logically see you read as citizens, but not Cluseau. Especially if you say Spongebob and King Tut are scummy, too.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 09:00 PM
I guess my problem with your role lists is your continued insistence that Inspector Cluseau is town especially when I think he seems rather scummy based on past interactions with mafia members (making a huge deal about hammering the consort). We've already crossed off that Cluseau is a power role trying to act scummy to hide, and so what's left is that Cluseau is mafia asking for attention to escape attention or a really trolly anti-town citizen. How does this warrant a citizen slot on your role list over someone like Gimli?

Hamburglar, yourself, Wile E, and myself I could logically see you read as citizens, but not Cluseau. Especially if you say Spongebob and King Tut are scummy, too.

I see.

I'm going to look at that big deal he made about hammering consort.
How much attention was placed on him; How much did he say the same thing over and over; How did he word it; etc

FM Gimli
January 10th, 2013, 09:02 PM
Day 2 #536 Agahnim notices Rubber Ducky
Day 3 #9 Agahnim thinks Rubber Ducky is a suspect

Rubber Ducky didn't kill him because maybe he couldn't or doesn't want to look obvious??

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 09:03 PM
Well this is easy. Anyone wanna claim the last citizen spot? :)

FM Gimli
January 10th, 2013, 09:06 PM
Day 2 #536 Agahnim notices Rubber Ducky
Day 3 #9 Agahnim thinks Rubber Ducky is a suspect

Rubber Ducky didn't kill him because maybe he couldn't or doesn't want to look obvious??

Day 2 #194 Agahnim wants to focus attention on towards 4 players which includes Rubber Ducky

FM SpongeBob
January 10th, 2013, 09:09 PM
Day 2 #194 Agahnim wants to focus attention on towards 4 players which includes Rubber Ducky

What are you implying? That Aga knew about lil ducky all along? Are you inferring that he is mafia then?

FM SpongeBob
January 10th, 2013, 09:11 PM
My eye has always been raised against Aga but I have nothing. So I can't quite support you.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 09:11 PM
Clue, imo, is either Witch or Citizen from what I read of his posts.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 09:12 PM
What are you implying? That Aga knew about lil ducky all along? Are you inferring that he is mafia then?

The Mafia have not missed an attack all game. They have no idea who is scum/who is not outside their team

FM Gimli
January 10th, 2013, 09:14 PM
What are you implying? That Aga knew about lil ducky all along? Are you inferring that he is mafia then?

I'm saying its very possible, but only a suspicion. We need to lynch Witch right now

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 09:14 PM
The Mafia have not missed an attack all game. They have no idea who is scum/who is not outside their team

That's assuming the consigliere did not find any scum.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 09:14 PM
The Mafia have not missed an attack all game. They have no idea who is scum/who is not outside their team


I'm saying its very possible, but only a suspicion. We need to lynch Witch right now


The Mafia have not missed an attack all game. They have no idea who is scum/who is not outside their team

:|

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 09:15 PM
That's assuming the consigliere did not find any scum.

It is.

But I have a very high suspicion he found no scum

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 09:15 PM
http://imageshack.us/a/img10/8696/funny02b.jpg

Im thinking clu...but thats just me.

FM Gimli
January 10th, 2013, 09:15 PM
I am saying SK probably attacked you; and your mafia if that is true.

FM SpongeBob
January 10th, 2013, 09:16 PM
Clue, imo, is either Witch or Citizen from what I read of his posts.

I feel clue is too trolly to be scum. Makes himself stand out too much

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 09:17 PM
I am saying SK probably attacked you; and your mafia if that is true.

Explains why I gave him up as well as Pinkie and my vote against Watson and the GF(whatever his name was).

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 09:17 PM
I am saying SK probably attacked you; and your mafia if that is true.

Explains why I gave him up as well as Pinkie and my vote against Watson and the GF(whatever his name was).

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 09:19 PM
I feel clue is too trolly to be scum. Makes himself stand out too much

People keep saying this. I refuse to absolve him of being scum because he's so scummy it would be too obvious that he's scum. It's stupid, circular logic. Let's just lynch him and be done with it.

FM Cluseau

FM SpongeBob
January 10th, 2013, 09:19 PM
Explains why I gave him up as well as Pinkie and my vote against Watson and the GF(whatever his name was).

Witch may gap. You appear to enjoy controlling the flow of information.

FM Michigan J Frog
January 10th, 2013, 09:19 PM
Claims:
Citizen - Agahnim
Citizen - Frog
Citizen - King Tut
Citizen - Gimli
Citizen - Wile E Coyote
Citizen - Wolverine
Citizen - Spongebob
Blacksmith - Ceasar
Vigilante - Sherlock
Citizen - Inspector Cluseau
Citizen - Hanburgler

My Viewpoint - Rolelist

Role List:
3-Citizen - Hamburgler
5-Mafioso - Cluseau
11-Citizen - Wolverine/Spongebob/King Tut
14-Vigilante - Sherlock
17-Citizen - Wolverine/Spongebob/King Tut
22-Citizen - Gimli
24-Blacksmith - Ceasar
28-Citizen - Wile E Coyote
30-Framer Mafioso - Agahnim
33-Citizen - Frog
35-Witch - Wolverine/Spongebob/King Tut

Preliminarily, that's how I see it. I'm still looking through stuff though.

Cluseau is mafia for making a huge deal about hammering the consort, Agahnim is mafia for insisting Cluseau is town. Agahnim was also the L-1 vote on Locutus, which seems scummy. He didn't want to hop on the train until he was sure it was happening. Out of Wolverine/Spongebob/King Tut, at least one is scum based on everyone else getting a town read.

Wolverine:
Weird Gandalf related post: Day 2, #217

Because I stated that I don't know? I'm currently leaning toward believing Gandalf, I just think it's weird that he reads scum one day and town the next. That's why I'm hesitant and would rather discuss other potential leads (Sherlock, or anyone else, for that matter) because I have "reasonable doubt" on the claim that Gandalf is scum.

Wolverine claims that Gandalf read scum Day 1 and town Day 2? imo, Gandalf read town Day 1 and town Day 2 until he started claiming doctor to survive the lynch. If Agahnim isn't mafia, then Wolverine is probably mafia. I just feel like this post is odd, and it looks like Wolverine might have known Gandalf was framed and wanted to gain town cred.

Wolverine also casts doubt if Pinkie Pie might have been framed when Yosemite Sam reveals his result: Day 3 #118

I know Pinkie has been acting a bit scummy lately, but we did just lynch a citizen, so... Anyone want to weigh in on the likelihood that the framer struck gold twice in a row?

It also seems odd that the witch left you alone last night. Was anyone else witched?


Spongebob: refuses to vote Rubber Ducky (sk) - possible Witch?
King Tut: extreme troll, null read is anti town

tl;dr It's really hard for me to find anything worth anything in Spongebob and King Tut's posts. Cluseau/Agahnim/Wolverine (choose 2) are mafia. Spongebob is my biggest witch candidate for not voting Watson, voting Gandalf, not voting Rubber Ducky, not voting Locutus.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 09:20 PM
Witch may gap. You appear to enjoy controlling the flow of information.

Oh I do.
I love twisting and manipulating people into believing what I want them to believe.

But I haven't done so this game.


@Wolverine

Im coming around to that conclusion.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 09:23 PM
@Frog

No excuse for my late vote. I was playing an MMORPG ^.^

FM Michigan J Frog
January 10th, 2013, 09:25 PM
What do you think about:

Spongebob/Wolverine/Cluseau (choose 2) - mafia
Agahnim - witch

When I think about it, Spongebob/Wolverine/Cluseau seem to be giving way more mafia tells, whereas Agahnim is just giving off a really scummy vibe to me.

FM Agahnim

This is what I think we should do today.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 09:27 PM
What do you think about:

Spongebob/Wolverine/Cluseau (choose 2) - mafia
Agahnim - witch

When I think about it, Spongebob/Wolverine/Cluseau seem to be giving way more mafia tells, whereas Agahnim is just giving off a really scummy vibe to me.

FM Agahnim

This is what I think we should do today.

I think:

Spongebob - Witch

Wolverine + Clue/King Tut - Mafia


More in line for Clue over Tut.

Clue is being useless on a critical day

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 09:29 PM
IF I GET LYNCHED:

HAMBURGLER SHOOT:
SPONGEBOB OR WOLVERINE OR CLUSEAU

SHERLOCK SHOOT:
SPONGEBOB OR WOLVERINE OR CLUSEAU

BLACKSMITH GIVE GUN TO:
FROG OR HAMBURGLER AGAIN

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 09:30 PM
Preliminarily, that's how I see it. I'm still looking through stuff though.

Cluseau is mafia for making a huge deal about hammering the consort, Agahnim is mafia for insisting Cluseau is town. Agahnim was also the L-1 vote on Locutus, which seems scummy. He didn't want to hop on the train until he was sure it was happening. Out of Wolverine/Spongebob/King Tut, at least one is scum based on everyone else getting a town read.

Wolverine:
Weird Gandalf related post: Day 2, #217


Wolverine claims that Gandalf read scum Day 1 and town Day 2? imo, Gandalf read town Day 1 and town Day 2 until he started claiming doctor to survive the lynch. If Agahnim isn't mafia, then Wolverine is probably mafia. I just feel like this post is odd, and it looks like Wolverine might have known Gandalf was framed and wanted to gain town cred.

Wolverine also casts doubt if Pinkie Pie might have been framed when Yosemite Sam reveals his result: Day 3 #118



Spongebob: refuses to vote Rubber Ducky (sk) - possible Witch?
King Tut: extreme troll, null read is anti town

tl;dr It's really hard for me to find anything worth anything in Spongebob and King Tut's posts. Cluseau/Agahnim/Wolverine (choose 2) are mafia. Spongebob is my biggest witch candidate for not voting Watson, voting Gandalf, not voting Rubber Ducky, not voting Locutus.

I merely meant that Gandalf was reading one way one day, and the complete opposite on the next day. The order in which I said them was not indicative of the order I observed them, though in retrospect I could understand how that could be misconstrued. But I saw it as you said: Gandalf appeared to be town, and then began acting scummy the next day.

You claim me, Cluseau, and Agahnim are the potential mafia members... Are you in the same FM as I am?! Agahnim's been accusing me of being scum since day 2 and is only even entertaining the possibility that I'm town. Cluseau voted me today for seemingly no reason whatsoever, and I've lost track of how many days I've been saying Cluseau is scum. I could see Cluseau and Agahnim in the mafia together. I could even see how you might argue that I'm in the mafia. But I simply don't see how you could possibly say I'm mafia with Cluseau or Agahnim.

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 09:30 PM
You claim me, Cluseau, and Agahnim are the potential mafia members... Are you in the same FM as I am?! Agahnim's been accusing me of being scum since day 2 and is only now even entertaining the possibility that I'm town. Cluseau voted me today for seemingly no reason whatsoever, and I've lost track of how many days I've been saying Cluseau is scum. I could see Cluseau and Agahnim in the mafia together. I could even see how you might argue that I'm in the mafia. But I simply don't see how you could possibly say I'm mafia with Cluseau or Agahnim.

fixed

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 09:31 PM
I merely meant that Gandalf was reading one way one day, and the complete opposite on the next day. The order in which I said them was not indicative of the order I observed them, though in retrospect I could understand how that could be misconstrued. But I saw it as you said: Gandalf appeared to be town, and then began acting scummy the next day.

You claim me, Cluseau, and Agahnim are the potential mafia members... Are you in the same FM as I am?! Agahnim's been accusing me of being scum since day 2 and is only even entertaining the possibility that I'm town. Cluseau voted me today for seemingly no reason whatsoever, and I've lost track of how many days I've been saying Cluseau is scum. I could see Cluseau and Agahnim in the mafia together. I could even see how you might argue that I'm in the mafia. But I simply don't see how you could possibly say I'm mafia with Cluseau or Agahnim.

Shut up, scum

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 09:32 PM
I think:

Spongebob - Witch

Wolverine + Clue/King Tut - Mafia


More in line for Clue over Tut.

Clue is being useless on a critical day

I would say Tut is also being useless on a critical day.

FM Gimli
January 10th, 2013, 09:32 PM
Explains why I gave him up as well as Pinkie and my vote against Watson and the GF(whatever his name was).

U never gave up Pinkie Pie u defended him. Voting someone up when sheriff claims guilty is an obvious case of who to vote for when your scum or town.
Day 1 #393 Agahnim defends PinkiePie

Personally I think he is Mafia not witch.

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 09:32 PM
Clue is being useless on a critical day

Not true. Just no one takes me seriously.

Frog is Witch

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 09:34 PM
no one takes me seriously.

Does this really surprise you?

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 09:37 PM
U never gave up Pinkie Pie u defended him. Voting someone up when sheriff claims guilty is an obvious case of who to vote for when your scum or town.
Day 1 #393 Agahnim defends PinkiePie

Personally I think he is Mafia not witch.

Go read Day three Moron

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 09:38 PM
U never gave up Pinkie Pie u defended him. Voting someone up when sheriff claims guilty is an obvious case of who to vote for when your scum or town.
Day 1 #393 Agahnim defends PinkiePie

Personally I think he is Mafia not witch.

I mean holy shit.

Are you really this slow?

FM Michigan J Frog
January 10th, 2013, 09:38 PM
I merely meant that Gandalf was reading one way one day, and the complete opposite on the next day. The order in which I said them was not indicative of the order I observed them, though in retrospect I could understand how that could be misconstrued. But I saw it as you said: Gandalf appeared to be town, and then began acting scummy the next day.

You claim me, Cluseau, and Agahnim are the potential mafia members... Are you in the same FM as I am?! Agahnim's been accusing me of being scum since day 2 and is only even entertaining the possibility that I'm town. Cluseau voted me today for seemingly no reason whatsoever, and I've lost track of how many days I've been saying Cluseau is scum. I could see Cluseau and Agahnim in the mafia together. I could even see how you might argue that I'm in the mafia. But I simply don't see how you could possibly say I'm mafia with Cluseau or Agahnim.

I understand what you mean. I think that Cluseau/Agahnim makes the most sense as a PAIR of mafia, but viewed individually, Spongebob/Wolverine/Cluseau (imo) have a higher chance of being mafia and Agahnim has a higher chance of being witch. I at least wanted to throw my individual suspicions out there before trying to draw connections between you guys.

Remind me who you think the 3 remaining scum are again and why?

Also, Cluseau, Spongebob, and Tut need to get shot at night by town if they're not lynched. We can't let them get to LYLO. I think that we at least can analyze Agahnim and Wolverine and see how things develop. Based on my reads I still think we should lynch Agahnim though because he has the best chance of flipping witch.

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 09:39 PM
People keep saying this. I refuse to absolve him of being scum because he's so scummy it would be too obvious that he's scum. It's stupid, circular logic. Let's just lynch him and be done with it.

FM Cluseau

Just realized this didn't count. Forgot the 'inspector' portion. Here we go again:

FM Inspector Cluseau

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 09:39 PM
I would say Tut is also being useless on a critical day.

I was thinking the same thing....

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 09:40 PM
Does this really surprise you?

Yea. It's like I have been disregarded. Disregarding is foolish

FM Michigan J Frog
January 10th, 2013, 09:41 PM
I was thinking the same thing....

GM please modkill?

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 09:42 PM
I understand what you mean. I think that Cluseau/Agahnim makes the most sense as a PAIR of mafia, but viewed individually, Spongebob/Wolverine/Cluseau (imo) have a higher chance of being mafia and Agahnim has a higher chance of being witch. I at least wanted to throw my individual suspicions out there before trying to draw connections between you guys.

Remind me who you think the 3 remaining scum are again and why?

Also, Cluseau, Spongebob, and Tut need to get shot at night by town if they're not lynched. We can't let them get to LYLO. I think that we at least can analyze Agahnim and Wolverine and see how things develop. Based on my reads I still think we should lynch Agahnim though because he has the best chance of flipping witch.

My 3 top choices for lynch today in order of importance are:

1. Inspector Cluseau

2. King Tut

3. Gimli/Spongebob (they are both equally suspect/difficult to read)

I give Hamburglar honorable mention for not shutting up about me being scum without providing any evidence to back it up.

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 09:43 PM
Yea. It's like I have been disregarded. Disregarding is foolish

Not "disregarded". You are very highly regarded... as useless scum.

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 09:44 PM
Not "disregarded". You are very highly regarded... as useless scum.

Said the frog

Forum Mafia GM
January 10th, 2013, 09:46 PM
GM please modkill?

I'm tempted for a few people, but remember: any modkills I do from here to the end will have a HIGH impact on who will win.

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 09:52 PM
I'm tempted for a few people, but remember: any modkills I do from here to the end will have a HIGH impact on who will win.

I'm trying here >.>

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 09:54 PM
I'm trying here >.>

If this is what you call trying, I don't think FMs are for you.

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 09:55 PM
If this is what you call trying, I don't think FMs are for you.

Perhaps they aren't anymore. Trying to different degrees, please note. Aren't you new btw? Interesting....

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 09:59 PM
Perhaps they aren't anymore. Trying to different degrees, please note. Aren't you new btw? Interesting....

Yup. It has been a learning experience. But you might notice that I have improved/participated more as time went on, as opposed to remaining useless.

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 10:00 PM
And here we all are

FM Gimli
January 10th, 2013, 10:05 PM
Perhaps they aren't anymore. Trying to different degrees, please note. Aren't you new btw? Interesting....
This is my first FM, and you are completely useless. You haven't given any useful information. Inspector Cluseau atleast gave some information.

I going to get off for now. Do not lynch until we decide who vigilante and Hamburglar kills. Also Have targets preplanned again if we lynch wrong. I'll probably be back in 14 hours.

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 10:08 PM
Lol. Yup totally useless. It's true. Worst performance I have had in any FM. I'm not even sure how my votes went. For that, I apologize to Yayap. The rest of you can suck it.

FM Hamburglar
January 10th, 2013, 10:14 PM
I dno if you've noticed but spongedud suddenly turned all meek and sheepish, i guess he ran out of his wit and is trying to tag along as scum.

My plan:
Lynch Spongebob
Sherlock pick you target besides Wolv
And by the POWER OF GREYSKULL (or atleast last nights gun), justice shall be served by shooting wolverine.

This should suffice.

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 10:14 PM
I've decided to post a real list
My sure-fire town list

Myself
Agahnim
Gimli
Sherlock
Hamburglar
Ceasar
Wile E

My scum list
Wolverine
J frog
Spongebob

?
Tut

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 10:14 PM
I guess tut is town by default of the other three being scum. Wolverine is e town if tut is scum

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 10:17 PM
No one trusts my effort level anymore, but the coupling and accusation coming from wolverine and frog (not them together) are scum. Legit, please consider the list.

I am more effort than troll atm
About 1% troll and 5% effort

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 10:22 PM
Frog is Witch
Wolv/Tut (mostly Wolverine) is Mafioso
Sponge bob is Mafioso

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 10:23 PM
It is part of why sponge's defense sucks. Witch is too valuable and he would explain himself. Mafioso doesn't lose scum a night kill, and frog and wolverine are generally not at the top of suspicion

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 10:24 PM
I also find the hypoclaim topic from day one to have been a plot for witch to reveal the town power roles, specifically from the witch so he might use the killers or negate the sheriffs.

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 10:28 PM
Luckily for me I know Wolverine quite well. Nigga fears the Cluseau, it is why I am around his radar.

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 10:30 PM
Troll to live
Live to win

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 10:33 PM
Luckily for me I know Wolverine quite well. Nigga fears the Cluseau, it is why I am around his radar.

You... Know me? What the hell does that mean? You're on my radar because up until this point you've done nothing but troll. I think your efforts now are only a result of your realization that we will likely lynch you today, an action I still fully recommend we take.

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 10:33 PM
http://www.antifeministtech.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/godzilla_facepalm.jpg

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 10:34 PM
Troll to live
Live to win

As scum, yes.

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 10:35 PM
http://www.antifeministtech.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/godzilla_facepalm.jpg

Are you and Cluseau in some kind of competition for who can troll the most? Off with their heads, I say.

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 10:37 PM
You... Know me? What the hell does that mean? You're on my radar because up until this point you've done nothing but troll. I think your efforts now are only a result of your realization that we will likely lynch you today, an action I still fully recommend we take.

Dog, lol. Anyway.

Yea dudes, Wolverine for #1 mafia, well played man. Please get the lynchings of me on with to confirm.

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 10:41 PM
I dno if you've noticed but spongedud suddenly turned all meek and sheepish, i guess he ran out of his wit and is trying to tag along as scum.

My plan:
Lynch Spongebob
Sherlock pick you target besides Wolv
And by the POWER OF GREYSKULL (or atleast last nights gun), justice shall be served by shooting wolverine.

This should suffice.

I'm still waiting to see some kind of evidence or logic as to why you think I'm scum.

FM King Tut
January 10th, 2013, 10:42 PM
Are you and Cluseau in some kind of competition for who can troll the most? Off with their heads, I say.

http://static4.fjcdn.com/comments/Gee+I+hope+this+doesn+t+start+a+US+sucks+circle-jerk+_1ad20dd8bf09fcab8f5f934001c52a46.png

Let the jerking games begin.

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 10:43 PM
I'm still waiting to see some kind of evidence or logic as to why you think I'm scum.

Cause you mafia, nigga.

Lynch The frog (witch)
Vig on wolverine
Gun on Bob

FM Wolverine
January 10th, 2013, 10:45 PM
Dog, lol. Anyway.

Yea dudes, Wolverine for #1 mafia, well played man. Please get the lynchings of me on with to confirm.

Ok, so basically your new plan is to troll, but disguise it as if you're actually participating? An even larger waste of time for everyone. How great.


Cause you mafia, nigga.

Lynch The frog (witch)
Vig on wolverine
Gun on Bob

More of the same unsubstantiated claims. "You're mafia because you're mafia". Right, then. Well done. Bravo.

FM Wile E Coyote
January 10th, 2013, 10:56 PM
Myself
Agahnim
Sherlock
Hamburglar
Ceasar
Cluseau

My scum list
Wolverine
Spongebob

???
Frog
Gimli
Tut

This is, right now, where I am standing.
Frog, you are really starting to look like a desperate Witch right now.
You've been on Agahnim's balls all game; And although I share your concern, It's obviously not the best lynch, and is not something that's going to happen.

Spongebob will, I'm pretty sure, flip scum. His complete lack of defense/trying to provide any kind of information is just... anyway.
My vote is going back on him; I'm off for the night.

FM Spongebob

Try not to hammer too early though, 'kay?

FM SpongeBob
January 10th, 2013, 11:19 PM
Preliminarily, that's how I see it. I'm still looking through stuff though.

Cluseau is mafia for making a huge deal about hammering the consort, Agahnim is mafia for insisting Cluseau is town. Agahnim was also the L-1 vote on Locutus, which seems scummy. He didn't want to hop on the train until he was sure it was happening. Out of Wolverine/Spongebob/King Tut, at least one is scum based on everyone else getting a town read.

Wolverine:
Weird Gandalf related post: Day 2, #217


Wolverine claims that Gandalf read scum Day 1 and town Day 2? imo, Gandalf read town Day 1 and town Day 2 until he started claiming doctor to survive the lynch. If Agahnim isn't mafia, then Wolverine is probably mafia. I just feel like this post is odd, and it looks like Wolverine might have known Gandalf was framed and wanted to gain town cred.

Wolverine also casts doubt if Pinkie Pie might have been framed when Yosemite Sam reveals his result: Day 3 #118



Spongebob: refuses to vote Rubber Ducky (sk) - possible Witch?
King Tut: extreme troll, null read is anti town

tl;dr It's really hard for me to find anything worth anything in Spongebob and King Tut's posts. Cluseau/Agahnim/Wolverine (choose 2) are mafia. Spongebob is my biggest witch candidate for not voting Watson, voting Gandalf, not voting Rubber Ducky, not voting Locutus.

Please note that I received this account on day 2

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 11:23 PM
This is, right now, where I am standing.
Frog, you are really starting to look like a desperate Witch right now.
You've been on Agahnim's balls all game; And although I share your concern, It's obviously not the best lynch, and is not something that's going to happen.

Spongebob will, I'm pretty sure, flip scum. His complete lack of defense/trying to provide any kind of information is just... anyway.
My vote is going back on him; I'm off for the night.

FM Spongebob

Try not to hammer too early though, 'kay?

We need to hunt the Witch. Do not vote unless you believe you have the Witch. Also, please put Gimli on your Town list.

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 11:23 PM
FM Michigan J Frog

FM Sherlock
January 10th, 2013, 11:29 PM
Ok, now tell me how it became possible for Mafia and Witch to choose different targets each?

Inspector Cluseau
January 10th, 2013, 11:33 PM
Ok, now tell me how it became possible for Mafia and Witch to choose different targets each?

What?

FM Michigan J Frog
January 10th, 2013, 11:42 PM
I also find the hypoclaim topic from day one to have been a plot for witch to reveal the town power roles, specifically from the witch so he might use the killers or negate the sheriffs.

The hypoclaim was a way for the town to have access to last will functionality. I stand by the pro-town functionality of my plan if the whole town had decided to participate. It's weird that you specifically think that I would be witch for thinking of this. My guess is that you're scum who kept me alive for a mislynch and are calling me witch as opposed to mafia due to the pressing need to lynch the witch.


This is, right now, where I am standing.
Frog, you are really starting to look like a desperate Witch right now.
You've been on Agahnim's balls all game; And although I share your concern, It's obviously not the best lynch, and is not something that's going to happen.

Spongebob will, I'm pretty sure, flip scum. His complete lack of defense/trying to provide any kind of information is just... anyway.
My vote is going back on him; I'm off for the night.

FM Spongebob

Try not to hammer too early though, 'kay?

If you think I'm witch, why are you voting Spongebob? If we lynch the witch we eliminate his ability to control the vigilante kill, switching the kpn to mafia:1 town:2 + lynch. Personally I think Agahnim is the witch for reasons I previously listed.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 11:46 PM
The hypoclaim was a way for the town to have access to last will functionality. I stand by the pro-town functionality of my plan if the whole town had decided to participate. It's weird that you specifically think that I would be witch for thinking of this. My guess is that you're scum who kept me alive for a mislynch and are calling me witch as opposed to mafia due to the pressing need to lynch the witch.



If you think I'm witch, why are you voting Spongebob? If we lynch the witch we eliminate his ability to control the vigilante kill, switching the kpn to mafia:1 town:2 + lynch. Personally I think Agahnim is the witch for reasons I previously listed.


You are wrong btw.
It literally makes no sense for me to have claimed Gandalf was a Framed Citizen - Vote to Lynch Watson AND Loctus AND Pinkie Pie AND Rubber Ducky and leave myself with a swiftly dwindling base of allies to help me win.

8 v 3 with my FoS-ing the same targets as most of the other HIGHLY SUSPECTED TO BE TOWNSPEOPLE.

FM Agahnim
January 10th, 2013, 11:48 PM
With the amount of clout I have/had with the town I could have gotten the majority of those people off suspicion and not lynched if I was really scum.

FM Michigan J Frog
January 11th, 2013, 12:02 AM
With the amount of clout I have/had with the town I could have gotten the majority of those people off suspicion and not lynched if I was really scum.

So you FoS'ed Wolverine/Spongebob/King Tut/Gimli. Can you tell me which ones are probably mafia (and why) and which is probably witch (and why). Also feel free to amend this and add anybody else you now find scummy. I think we should all try to triangulate and find the witch.

Also, is your read on Cluseau or myself impacted by the fact that we both call each other scum?

FM Agahnim
January 11th, 2013, 12:03 AM
So you FoS'ed Wolverine/Spongebob/King Tut/Gimli. Can you tell me which ones are probably mafia (and why) and which is probably witch (and why). Also feel free to amend this and add anybody else you now find scummy. I think we should all try to triangulate and find the witch.

Also, is your read on Cluseau or myself impacted by the fact that we both call each other scum?
1st request: I shall do this

2nd question: Not at all.

FM Agahnim
January 11th, 2013, 12:06 AM
Wolverine/Spongebob/King Tut/Gimli/Cluseau

Mafia:
King Tut
Cluseau

King Tut has been the one to hide under the radar and only speak towards the end of the days when his activity was most important to try and win.

Cluseau has trolled way to much throughout the game and even on these past two critical days to be town aligned.

Witch:

Gimli - Only because he had shit for his defense.

Spongebob - I do not see any ties to and against either of the dead mafia players and he rings out as scum to me.


Wolverine - I'm on the fence about him. He claims to be new which makes him a wild card.


Frog - Seems way too Town to be scum imo.

FM Sherlock
January 11th, 2013, 12:07 AM
Wolverine shot Anubis just as he promised to us. Or is it because he knew Anubis would flip citizen?

FM Agahnim
January 11th, 2013, 12:09 AM
Wolverine shot Anubis just as he promised to us. Or is it because he knew Anubis would flip citizen?

Exactly.
However if he is witch as I think he is it blurs the read even more.

FM Ceasar
January 11th, 2013, 12:28 AM
Okay guys, I'm online for a bit. One question for all the SB voters...

Why do you find SpongeBob more suspicious then Cluseau, Tut, and all those other people?

FM Agahnim
January 11th, 2013, 12:29 AM
Okay guys, I'm online for a bit. One question for all the SB voters...

Why do you find SpongeBob more suspicious then Cluseau, Tut, and all those other people?

I only find him more likely to be Witch than the others.

Inspector Cluseau
January 11th, 2013, 12:30 AM
I only find him more likely to be Witch than the others.

Guys, Frog is witch

FM Ceasar
January 11th, 2013, 12:31 AM
I only find him more likely to be Witch than the others.

How likely do you think that he is scum in general, and how come?

FM Agahnim
January 11th, 2013, 12:37 AM
How likely do you think that he is scum in general, and how come?

Possess of elimination:
Ceasar - Proven
Sherlock - Proven
Frog - Highly Suspect Town
Wile E Coyote - Suspected Town
Hamburgler - Highly Suspected Town
Me - Town of course


that leaves:
Gimli - Cluse - Wolverine - Spongebob - King Tut


And Wolverine went with Yours and Mine suggestion to shoot Anubis +town points maybe?

Inspector Cluseau
January 11th, 2013, 12:41 AM
Possess of elimination:
Ceasar - Proven
Sherlock - Proven
Frog - Highly Suspect Town
Wile E Coyote - Suspected Town
Hamburgler - Highly Suspected Town
Me - Town of course


that leaves:
Gimli - Cluse - Wolverine - Spongebob - King Tut


And Wolverine went with Yours and Mine suggestion to shoot Anubis +town points maybe?

Cluseau is Citizen, and I am 100% sure on Gimli.
Frog really needs more attention

FM Ceasar
January 11th, 2013, 12:54 AM
Quick easy reads (Part 1)

King Tut

There is very little to say on this one. He is a super, all-out troll, who hasn't been modkilled yet. Contributes very little during day chat. Impossible to link his votes to anyone, since as far as I see, he hasn't voted once all game. Yayap, as a confirmed town, I am telling you that if this guy is indeed Citizen, he is severely hurting Town's chances of winning. Please modkill if he is town, else he is definately at the very top of my hitlist.

As I tried to make clear yesterday, idiots are getting in the way very much with scumhunting. If he does not get modkilled, he needs to die. Definately lynch possibility today.

SpongeBob

Seems realy new to FM, like this is his first time playing, which I wouldn't be at surprised of. Big problem with new players is that it becomes hard to tell newb town from newb scum. Having said that, his scummyness is being cranked up hugely today. General town attitude when getting pressured should be realy not wanting to be killed, but knowing it isn't the total end of the world if you do. However, SB is completely playing the "Pity" card to such an extent that he is barely trying to defend himself...


I know for sure I really messed up in the past.


defense? i can see it myself. how much into the hole i am. i was FoSing a cit...which is killed the next night due to Ceaser's orders, and the person i was defending turned out to be SK.

kinda sucks for me

Feels way too much like newb scum trying to act like he is a town willing to sacrafise himself, but taking the pity card too far.

When first making this post, I didn't find SB as a top lynch choice. However, after reading his recent posts, I'm not nearly so sure. Possible lynch target.


Possibly more to come...

FM Agahnim
January 11th, 2013, 12:57 AM
Quick easy reads (Part 1)

King Tut

There is very little to say on this one. He is a super, all-out troll, who hasn't been modkilled yet. Contributes very little during day chat. Impossible to link his votes to anyone, since as far as I see, he hasn't voted once all game. Yayap, as a confirmed town, I am telling you that if this guy is indeed Citizen, he is severely hurting Town's chances of winning. Please modkill if he is town, else he is definately at the very top of my hitlist.

As I tried to make clear yesterday, idiots are getting in the way very much with scumhunting. If he does not get modkilled, he needs to die. Definately lynch possibility today.

SpongeBob

Seems realy new to FM, like this is his first time playing, which I wouldn't be at surprised of. Big problem with new players is that it becomes hard to tell newb town from newb scum. Having said that, his scummyness is being cranked up hugely today. General town attitude when getting pressured should be realy not wanting to be killed, but knowing it isn't the total end of the world if you do. However, SB is completely playing the "Pity" card to such an extent that he is barely trying to defend himself...





kinda sucks for me

Feels way too much like newb scum trying to act like he is a town willing to sacrafise himself, but taking the pity card too far.

When first making this post, I didn't find SB as a top lynch choice. However, after reading his recent posts, I'm not nearly so sure. Possible lynch target.


Possibly more to come...

Please include me and Frog if you will in these read.

FM Sherlock
January 11th, 2013, 01:16 AM
I'm going to put my vote on Spongebob soon. But in my honest, I would like to kill Cluseau instead of Spongebob. Cluseau was probably the one attacked by SK on night 2.

FM Agahnim
January 11th, 2013, 01:18 AM
I'm going to put my vote on Spongebob soon. But in my honest, I would like to kill Cluseau instead of Spongebob. Cluseau was probably the one attacked by SK on night 2.

Problem for me is the dice roll between him Gimli Tut and Wolverine.
Spongebob is the safe lynch as I said eariler

FM Ceasar
January 11th, 2013, 01:19 AM
Inspector Cluseau

Okay, round 2

Cluseau has made way too many posts to do a short read on, so I will just give brief sumary.

During the first few days, I actualy did find Cluseau quite pro-town (if I didn't, I wouldn't have given him a gun). While he minor trolled, I actualy found him to be somewhat of a logical player. However, things had gone way south for him by D5. He had threatend to shoot me, forcing my role claim, then shot Cookie Monster, who was, imo, a very pro-town player who had never realy mentioned before. Despite all these suspicious things, I decided to leave him. However, notice how most of Cluseau's posts for most of D5 are fairly pro-town. Yet, for the end of D5 D6 and D7, Cluseau ends up lurking and trolling quite a lot. Fair bit of spam, with posts like these...


Yea, dudes. Doctas on me.

-Reveal


I claim....

BANKRUPTCY



...with quite a few more

While these posts are not nearly as trolly as Tut's, the thing which I want to note here is that Cluseau has only realy started cranking up the trolling in the last few days. It feels almost as if he is changing tactics to fit in more with the lurkers and trolls to avoid lynching.

Still finding Cluseau scummy.

FM Ceasar
January 11th, 2013, 01:20 AM
Please include me and Frog if you will in these read.

Wish I had seen this earlier, since I did Cluseau next. I'll see if I can stay awake long enough, otherwise, tommrow.

FM Agahnim
January 11th, 2013, 01:21 AM
To the Vigilante and Gun Owner:

IF we lynch Spongebob today:
Please Shoot Cluse or Tut tonight.

If Spongebob slips witch:

8 v 2 (mafia) going into n7
--
If Both Cluse and Tut flip town scum is:
Wolverine + Gimli

6 v 2 (Assuming Cluse and Tut are town)

FM Ceasar
January 11th, 2013, 01:22 AM
Please include me and Frog if you will in these read.

Actualy, you know your own allignment, and you said that you strongly believe Frog to be town. Why are you more interested on my reads on people you believe to be town then on people you believe to be scum?

FM Agahnim
January 11th, 2013, 01:24 AM
Actualy, you know your own allignment, and you said that you strongly believe Frog to be town. Why are you more interested on my reads on people you believe to be town then on people you believe to be scum?

You are the only player who is, imo, intelligent enough to give a proper read on somone.
Frog is still stuck on slotting me town.

I would like your professional read to give cred to his read or take cred from it.

No matter what I feel he is town. I just want his eyes opened to the high probability of me being town

FM Agahnim
January 11th, 2013, 01:25 AM
You are the only player who is, imo, intelligent enough to give a proper read on somone.
Frog is still stuck on slotting me town.

I would like your professional read to give cred to his read or take cred from it.

No matter what I feel he is town. I just want his eyes opened to the high probability of me being town

Getting the read of Frog will just be a confirmation of sorts since multiple people are thinking him scum.

Inspector Cluseau
January 11th, 2013, 01:28 AM
To the Vigilante and Gun Owner:

IF we lynch Spongebob today:
Please Shoot Cluse or Tut tonight.

If Spongebob slips witch:

8 v 2 (mafia) going into n7
--
If Both Cluse and Tut flip town scum is:
Wolverine + Gimli

6 v 2 (Assuming Cluse and Tut are town)

And when Bob is Mafioso?

Inspector Cluseau
January 11th, 2013, 01:32 AM
To the Vigilante and Gun Owner:

IF we lynch Spongebob today:
Please Shoot Cluse or Tut tonight.

If Spongebob slips witch:

8 v 2 (mafia) going into n7
--
If Both Cluse and Tut flip town scum is:
Wolverine + Gimli

6 v 2 (Assuming Cluse and Tut are town)

5 v 2, Maf kill

FM Ceasar
January 11th, 2013, 01:39 AM
You are the only player who is, imo, intelligent enough to give a proper read on somone.
Frog is still stuck on slotting me town.

I would like your professional read to give cred to his read or take cred from it.

No matter what I feel he is town. I just want his eyes opened to the high probability of me being town

Shameless flatery noted.

And no, many of my reads have been wrong. My only major success was on Dracula. Ducky got lynched because he was being an idiot. I have been wrong about Sherlock, Hood and Anubis (even though I do still believe Anubis admiting to faking his Doctor claim so late in the game was a realy poor move, and Hood deserved to die).

While it realy is ending up to be too late to do another read right now, I believe that Frog is an extremely smart player. While smart doesn't equal town by any stretch of the imagination (I think you a smart, but I also think that you are scummy), he realy has been doing a great job of seeming Pro-Town, and I actualy do agree with many of his reads (Even though it is possible that this is intentional on his part if he is scum). Reads take me a long time, he hasn't been scummy enough for me to want to do a read him, and no one has given enough of a reason for me to feel a vote is warranted.

Even a short read on you will take me a long time, and it is almost 1:00AM here, so I will leave with that for today.

FM Agahnim
January 11th, 2013, 01:54 AM
5 v 2, Maf kill

Correct

FM Hamburglar
January 11th, 2013, 04:56 AM
I'm going to put my vote on Spongebob soon. But in my honest, I would like to kill Cluseau instead of Spongebob. Cluseau was probably the one attacked by SK on night 2.

you have been repeatedly shooting citizens, but since we have a mislynch/misshot after we lynch scum do as you see fit.

FM Wile E Coyote
January 11th, 2013, 07:53 AM
'Morning.


Problem for me is the dice roll between him Gimli Tut and Wolverine.
Spongebob is the safe lynch as I said eariler

This, is also my current point of view.
Although both Frog and you have scummy point in my eyes; right now it just feels like two citizens taking blows at each other.

My vote on Spongebob stands.

FM Wile E Coyote
January 11th, 2013, 11:32 AM
... Why is it so dead here?

Wakey wakey everyone!

FM Sherlock
January 11th, 2013, 11:53 AM
I'm not dead, I'm feigning myself dead.

FM Gimli
January 11th, 2013, 12:29 PM
Im back and ill be reading frog and agahnim again.

Inspector Cluseau
January 11th, 2013, 12:59 PM
you have been repeatedly shooting citizens, but since we have a mislynch/misshot after we lynch scum do as you see fit.

I have no issue with my own death. We are in a pretty solid position atm. However, we likely must kill the Witch for the shot on me to take effect. Let us be certain that the Witch is our lynch so that we can get a mis-shoot on me. Mkay?

FM SpongeBob
January 11th, 2013, 01:36 PM
... Why is it so dead here?

Wakey wakey everyone!

I don't wake up til about...now

FM SpongeBob
January 11th, 2013, 01:37 PM
I have no issue with my own death. We are in a pretty solid position atm. However, we likely must kill the Witch for the shot on me to take effect. Let us be certain that the Witch is our lynch so that we can get a mis-shoot on me. Mkay?

And what do you mean by 'mis-shoot'?

FM Gimli
January 11th, 2013, 01:40 PM
Frog hasn't said anything scummy except for defending Gandalf before he was put up to trial. The other thing he did was vote up Agahnim with GF. He seems pretty clean to me, but if he is scum then he is the most dangerous man alive.

I looked at Agahnim and Fog's reads on him were very convincing. I personally think he was attacked by SK at one point. He might not be mafia because GF voted him. This man is very dangerous if he is scum too. He seems a lot more scummy then are weak lurker victims. Also Pink Pie put Spongebob's name on her suspects. I personally think that Spongebob has a low percentage of actually being witch. The percentage is even lower if he is mafia. I think Agahnim is the Best target because he could be Witch(most likely) or Mafia(still good). I think there has to be at least one active Scum and this man deserves the medal.

King Tut is also very risky I would shoot him tonight then lynch Inspector Cluseau tommrow.

FM Agahnim

FM Agahnim
January 11th, 2013, 01:51 PM
Frog hasn't said anything scummy except for defending Gandalf before he was put up to trial. The other thing he did was vote up Agahnim with GF. He seems pretty clean to me, but if he is scum then he is the most dangerous man alive.

I looked at Agahnim and Fog's reads on him were very convincing. I personally think he was attacked by SK at one point. He might not be mafia because GF voted him. This man is very dangerous if he is scum too. He seems a lot more scummy then are weak lurker victims. Also Pink Pie put Spongebob's name on her suspects. I personally think that Spongebob has a low percentage of actually being witch. The percentage is even lower if he is mafia. I think Agahnim is the Best target because he could be Witch(most likely) or Mafia(still good). I think there has to be at least one active Scum and this man deserves the medal.

King Tut is also very risky I would shoot him tonight then lynch Inspector Cluseau tommrow.

FM Agahnim

Makes no sense whatsoever

FM Gimli
January 11th, 2013, 02:27 PM
Where is everyone?

FM Hamburglar
January 11th, 2013, 03:31 PM
nothing worth of value has been posted since the last time i checked, so i'll just stand by my vote and wait for day to end with spongebobs lynch or worthwhile discussion happening. We'll know more after the lynch/night

So go for robert squarepants.

Inspector Cluseau
January 11th, 2013, 03:59 PM
And what do you mean by 'mis-shoot'?

I am... Town?

Inspector Cluseau
January 11th, 2013, 04:02 PM
nothing worth of value has been posted since the last time i checked, so i'll just stand by my vote and wait for day to end with spongebobs lynch or worthwhile discussion happening. We'll know more after the lynch/night

So go for robert squarepants.

I do not think Spongebob is the optimal vote, but I would rather kill a Mafioso than waste a day lynch not voting. Also, I have been semi-swayed away from my Frog idea.

FM Spongebob

FM Gimli
January 11th, 2013, 04:09 PM
I do not think Spongebob is the optimal vote, but I would rather kill a Mafioso than waste a day lynch not voting. Also, I have been semi-swayed away from my Frog idea.

FM Spongebob

So you actually think he is town? Don't nail the hammer yet. We still have a ton of time for reads.

FM Ceasar
January 11th, 2013, 05:09 PM
Only 15 posts in 15 hours seems realy light.

Anyway, I'll be back in the next few hours, and I plan to do at least a minor read on all players today. As I stated previously, SpongeBob's total lack of defence realy is BS which, once again, comes back to the "Idiot or Scum?" problem. However, the waggon against him realy does seem way too much like a "Meh, I guess you could say he is kinda scummy, so we might as well lynch him" sort of waggon.

In my opinion, would the SpoungeBob lynch be horrible? No. However, do I think he is the best possible lynch for today? Probably not.

More later.

FM Hamburglar
January 11th, 2013, 05:22 PM
My witch read on Wolverine won't change.
Probability of him getting lynched today? Close to 0
I'd rather get rid off my surefire mafioso read.

However, if you guys do find out decisive clues about the witches identity, do share.

FM Gimli
January 11th, 2013, 05:32 PM
My witch read on Wolverine won't change.
Probability of him getting lynched today? Close to 0
I'd rather get rid off my surefire mafioso read.

However, if you guys do find out decisive clues about the witches identity, do share.
Please post your reads with quotes and explain in deep depth behind it. Right now we need good evidence not hunches. Lurkers are hard to read, but dead scum quotes help clarify.

FM Hamburglar
January 11th, 2013, 06:10 PM
I already pointed out the slip Wolverine made yesterday more than once. Not been reading those? Other than that, he doesn't provide any substantial protown reads or initiatives, has been lurking most of the game and never did anything besides sheeping iirc.

Classic witch

FM Wolverine
January 11th, 2013, 08:26 PM
I already pointed out the slip Wolverine made yesterday more than once. Not been reading those? Other than that, he doesn't provide any substantial protown reads or initiatives, has been lurking most of the game and never did anything besides sheeping iirc.

Classic witch

Lurking most of the game, you say? Laughable. But then, apparently you just like to ignore posts that you think might be unworthy of your time based on nothing except some kind of weird 6th sense you have that detects things that contain logic or reason and steers you away from them.

Sheeping? I've fought with Agahnim numerous times about Cluseau and Tut being scummy, and when Sherlock claimed I argued that we should lynch him to keep him out of the witch's hands, which was a very unpopular opinion, and one that I think would be unwise for a witch to hold or express, particularly at this stage in the game when both scum and town need all the kills they can get.

Here's my alleged "slip":


I don't believe that Hamburglar's proposed scenario is by any means the "worst case". If it was, the FM would be over and town declared victorious. In fact, Hamburglar's scenario is closer to what I'd call a best-case scenario, as it assumes that we will lynch all 4 scum in the next 5 days. Quite optimistic considering our current record is 2 in 5. 3 if you count jailor.

The actual worst-case scenario looks more like this:

11 town 4 scum
lynch town. 7 town 4 scum
lynch town. 3 town 4 scum. Scum win.

And that's ignoring kills from blacksmith guns, which have exclusively hit town thus far. So forgive me if I'm not quite as optimistic as Hamburglar.

And here's your response:


I can't take you for anything else but witch, since you pointed out that neither the blacksmith gun, nor the vigilante will hit scum.
Meaning that you control both.
Meaning that you are witch.

I've already told you numerous times, I was describing a worst-case scenario for town. And was basing the vigilante not hitting scum on the existence of the witch (which has been right so far, by the way) and was just stating that the blacksmith gun had only hit town in the past (something which is still true today, I might add). I was responding to a sequence of events you posted that you CLAIMED was the worst-case scenario, but yours involved town finding and killing all scum immediately, so I felt the need to point out that town should not be so complacent as you would have had us believe. But you have refused to acknowledge this argument or respond to it in anyway and keep referring to what I said as a "slip" when it was in fact nothing of the sort.

If you're going to accuse me of being scum, get some real evidence.

FM Wolverine
January 11th, 2013, 08:28 PM
*any way. Two words.

FM Gimli
January 11th, 2013, 08:52 PM
So is any one jumping on the Agahnim Train to lynch town. Seriously read him for yourself. The SK had to of hit him and cookie thought he was guilty. Guess why died to a Gunman, Cookie!

FM Gimli
January 11th, 2013, 08:54 PM
So is any one jumping on the Agahnim Train to lynch vill. Seriously read him for yourself. The SK had to of hit him and cookie thought he was guilty. Guess why died to a Gunman, Cookie!

I tried to put some humor into it and it sounded wrong if u take a look at it in a different view.

Inspector Cluseau
January 11th, 2013, 08:54 PM
Lurking most of the game, you say? Laughable. But then, apparently you just like to ignore posts that you think might be unworthy of your time based on nothing except some kind of weird 6th sense you have that detects things that contain logic or reason and steers you away from them.

Sheeping? I've fought with Agahnim numerous times about Cluseau and Tut being scummy, and when Sherlock claimed I argued that we should lynch him to keep him out of the witch's hands, which was a very unpopular opinion, and one that I think would be unwise for a witch to hold or express, particularly at this stage in the game when both scum and town need all the kills they can get.

Here's my alleged "slip":



And here's your response:



I've already told you numerous times, I was describing a worst-case scenario for town. And was basing the vigilante not hitting scum on the existence of the witch (which has been right so far, by the way) and was just stating that the blacksmith gun had only hit town in the past (something which is still true today, I might add). I was responding to a sequence of events you posted that you CLAIMED was the worst-case scenario, but yours involved town finding and killing all scum immediately, so I felt the need to point out that town should not be so complacent as you would have had us believe. But you have refused to acknowledge this argument or respond to it in anyway and keep referring to what I said as a "slip" when it was in fact nothing of the sort.

If you're going to accuse me of being scum, get some real evidence.

I've said it before, and I will say it again 'fuck Wolverine', but I don't find this reasoning to be the reason to lynch. More Ham's point about Wolv only seeming to attack

Wolverine, what is your read on Gimli?

Inspector Cluseau
January 11th, 2013, 08:55 PM
So is any one jumping on the Agahnim Train to lynch town. Seriously read him for yourself. The SK had to of hit him and cookie thought he was guilty. Guess why died to a Gunman, Cookie!

I killed Cookie with a gun, and no I wasn't Witched into it.

Inspector Cluseau
January 11th, 2013, 08:56 PM
Once again, my town

Ceaser
Sherlock
Myself
Agahnim
Gimli
Hamburglar
Wile E
Tut/Frog/Wolverine

Scum
Frog/Tut
Wolverine/Tut
Sponge bob

FM Gimli
January 11th, 2013, 09:04 PM
I killed Cookie with a gun, and no I wasn't Witched into it.

I forgot about that. What were your reasons why you thought he was scum?

Inspector Cluseau
January 11th, 2013, 09:10 PM
I can't decide if a Witch lynch or a Mafioso lynch is better.
Witch- we control the Vig kill again, but Mafia is likely to kill him. So, the final kill is likely used on me.
8 vs 3 becomes 6 vs 2 (then factor gun shot), 1 kill for Town
Mafioso- we don't hold the Vig kill, but should he Witch be lynched tomorrow the Vig might be able to kill the final Mafia.
8 vs 3 becomes 6 vs 2 (then factor gun shot), but should Witch be found tomorrow (6 vs 1) then the town has 2 kills rolling into the next nigh

Inspector Cluseau
January 11th, 2013, 09:10 PM
I forgot about that. What were your reasons why you thought he was scum?

Reread him like a fucking 6 year old, was pretty sure he was Framer based on some responses to the Gandalf situation

FM Agahnim
January 11th, 2013, 09:11 PM
So is any one jumping on the Agahnim Train to lynch town. Seriously read him for yourself. The SK had to of hit him and cookie thought he was guilty. Guess why died to a Gunman, Cookie!

Lol wow.

Uber fail.

FM King Tut
January 11th, 2013, 09:32 PM
King Tut

There is very little to say on this one. He is a super, all-out troll, who hasn't been modkilled yet. Contributes very little during day chat. Impossible to link his votes to anyone, since as far as I see, he hasn't voted once all game. Yayap, as a confirmed town, I am telling you that if this guy is indeed Citizen, he is severely hurting Town's chances of winning. Please modkill if he is town, else he is definately at the very top of my hitlist.

As I tried to make clear yesterday, idiots are getting in the way very much with scumhunting. If he does not get modkilled, he needs to die. Definately lynch possibility today.

I voted a few times. Just because you can't get a read doesn't mean anything. Try harder.
Just cuz you suck at scum hunting don't QQ.

I thought I was being obvious...

FM King Tut
January 11th, 2013, 09:32 PM
FM Spongebob

FM Gimli
January 11th, 2013, 09:44 PM
Reread him like a fucking 6 year old, was pretty sure he was Framer based on some responses to the Gandalf situation

Damn! Holy shit he looked a lot worse than I thought. He looked ultra guilty. I don't know what he was thinking.