S-FM 52: Christmas!

[Fatalis]

S-FM Christmas!


Twas upon a Christmas night, where all are peaceful and silent in the town. Happiness and laughter pervade the snowy land as all citizens share their joy and excitement. Though, from the darkness and silent of the shadows, there are those who oppose the Holiday and attempt to murder the citizens. The town retaliated by sending their own officers to find those filthy traitors.



Mafia(Godfather)
Mafia
Mafia(Traitor)

Benign Neutral

Town
Town
Town
Town
Citizen
Citizen


Possible Town Roles:Sheriff,Investigator,Detective,Lookout,Docto r,Body guard,Veteran,Vigilante,Jailor,Escort
Possible Benign Neutral Roles:Jester,Executioner,Student,Amnesiac
Possible Mafia Roles:Mafioso,Blackmailer,Consort,Fabricator,Frame r,Janitor,Consigliere



Order of Operations
Jailor Jails
Veteran Alerts
Consort and Escort Role Blocks
Kills+Heals/Protection
Fabricator Fabricates and Janitor Cleans
Amnesiac and Student Chooses
Blackmailer Blackmails
Jailor Releases/Kills
All Investigative Results


Investigative Pairings
Citizen/Veteran/Student/Amnesiac/Mafioso
Sheriff/Executioner/Jester/Jailor
Investigator/Consigliere/Janitor
Detective/Blackmailer/Lookout/Framer
Fabricator/Doctor/Vigilante
Escort/Consort/Bodyguard


Win Conditions
Town: Eliminate the Mafia
Mafia: Eliminate the Town
Student: Takes the Win Condition of Your Mentor
Amnesiac: Takes the Win Condition of Your New Role or Survive
Jester: Get Lynched
Executioner: Get your Assigned Target Lynched
Traitor: Eliminate the Godfather, then the Town


Special Mechanics

Three(3) Gifts will be presented each day
All the players shall vote for which Gift to pick
Each Gift will give one Buff for Mafia and one Buff for Town roles
It should be noted that even though role X is buffed, that role might not exist in the game


Rules

Day and Night Cycles will last 24 Hours
Vote using the New BB Code Tag
Ask Questions with Green
Vote for Gifts with Cyan
No Outside Game discussion
Failure to submit a night action will result in a modkill
You must contribute at least once to the day chat, being highly inactive though might still get you mod killed
Modkills are replaces, and if the replaces are depleted, death


Players
AppleyNO
Slaol
Creedkingsx
Damus_Graves
Mintberry Crunch
Chane
Clementine
Jr4life24
RLVG
Roflcopter

Roles

Jester

Causes guilty voter to suicide


Executioner

Becomes a Jester upon failure


Student

Gains a night chat with your mentor


Amnesiac

Remembering a role will NOT be announced to the town


Mafioso

You may be sent for the kill


Blackmailer

You may silence a target
Silenced target may only vote(unvote included) twice


Consort

You may roleblock a target
Not immune to roleblocks


Fabricator

You may change the last will and role of a target if that target dies the same night
You have 1 charge


Janitor

You may clean the last will and role of a target if that target dies the same night
You have 2 charge


Consigliere

You detect the exact role of your target


Framer

Frame someone to appear as an investigative pairing of your choosing(sheriffs will get guilty reading)


Sheriff

Detects Mafia as Guilty
Detects Others as Non Guilty(Includes Mafia-Aligned Student)


Investigator

You Detect your target's investigative pairing


Detective

You detect who your target visits


Lookout

You detect who your target visits


Doctor

You can heal your target


Bodyguard

You can sacrefice your live to safe your target and kill the attacker


Veteran

You have 2 alerts
You are invulnerable during your alert
You will kill all visitors during alert


Vigilante

You have 2 shots


Escort

You can roleblock a target
You are not immune to roleblocks


Jailor

You can jail your target
send your command by day
You may choose to execute or release your target
You have 2 executions
Jailed target is immune to any attacks
Jailed targets is perfectly roleblocked

[Fatalis]

Day 0
You may not lynch today
You may vote for one of the 3 gifts(ex: -vote Gift 1)
Day will end 24 hours from this post

[Jim]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, why no RP names.

[Fatalis]

Just to make it more Clear: The Setup Thread is Outdated/Inaccurate, Please refer to the OP in this thread

[creedkingsx]

Creedkingsx - Confirmed
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This is proof I am town.

[Damus_Graves]

This is proof I am town.

This proves you are neutral benign.

[Damus_Graves]

My reasoning is that saying such a thing confirms you as town raises a ton of eyebrows and greets you with a certain skepticism. Scum, this early in the day with a traitor in their midst as well, won't risk that amount of attention it'll bring.
Now following Creed's general play, would I believe him to do so if he were town? The answer I have is no. I wouldn't.
That leaves Neutral Benign.

[creedkingsx]

Or I am just a Citizen trying to attract attention. :o

[Damus_Graves]

Or I am just a Citizen trying to attract attention. :o

I don't get a Citizen vibe from you just yet. However saying this makes me think you are not Citizen :p

[Damus_Graves]

There are currently 3 users browsing this thread. (2 members and 1 guests)


Fatalis is that you?

[Fatalis]

OP updated with Roles and all the info you'll need

[Damus_Graves]

There are currently 3 users browsing this thread. (2 members and 1 guests)


Fatalis is that you?

Nevermind :|

So non scummy creed. How can we make today useful and still not track into what do you think of X and Y <-- its getting stale

[RLVG]

Hello. Didn't realise this started yet, untill I saw the PM like 40min late.

[RLVG]

Or I am just a Citizen trying to attract attention. :o

Town tell? That is, if they have vests. *looks on setup*

[RLVG]

Fatal, you forgot to add the role Citizen in the spoiler "Roles" list.

[AppleyNO]

Good evening everyone. Don't expect me here a lot for the first half of today. I have things to clean.

Other than that, we have no information about which gift has what, and we have to pick one. Might as well get it out of the way.

Vote Gift 2

[RLVG]

Good evening everyone. Don't expect me here a lot for the first half of today. I have things to clean.

Other than that, we have no information about which gift has what, and we have to pick one. Might as well get it out of the way.

Vote Gift 2

Forgot about the gift.

...

Always the better of Three.
-Vote Gift 3

[creedkingsx]

xcuse me, mister game master, sir. I don't know my role card. You seent me a citizen name but the role card is not in the setup so I don't know what do?

[RLVG]

xcuse me, mister game master, sir. I don't know my role card. You seent me a citizen name but the role card is not in the setup so I don't know what do?

I guess... A citizen... That stands around... Idle... Looking stupid...

[creedkingsx]

I guess... A citizen... That stands around... Idle... Looking stupid...

Do I get a Vest?

[creedkingsx]

-vote 2

[Fatalis]

My bad, I can't seem to edit the thread because it gives a timed-out error, so..
Citizen have the power of vote
They don't have vests or anything else

[RLVG]

And thus, if Creed were a citizen - getting attention is stupid, they're vulnerable and wastes the investigators time, et cetera.

[Damus_Graves]

And thus, if Creed were a citizen - getting attention is stupid, they're vulnerable and wastes the investigators time, et cetera.

Hey look. A like minded individual. How are you you intelligent sir?

Anywho - Vote Gift 1

[Damus_Graves]

Hey look. A like minded individual. How are you you intelligent sir?

Anywho - Vote Gift 1

:D

[RLVG]

I really want to know what's in our gifts.

[Slaol]

Yo, it's ya bio Slaol wit da daily post.

[Slaol]

Vote gift three

What does it mean if my role 'has power in the vote'?

[Fatalis]

sad

gtfo

[RLVG]

[COLOR="#00FFFF"]What does it mean if my role 'has power in the vote'?

WIFOM Citizen?

[Slaol]

sad

iPad is great to my spelling. But that was just the best post I've ever seen in my life.

[Slaol]

Well, anyway. I don't trust RLVG. No lynch today, but yea..

[clementine]

-vote Gift 2

[RLVG]

I don't trust RLVG.

That's random.

[Slaol]

That's random.

You'd like to think that, wouldn't you!?

[RLVG]

You'd like to think that, wouldn't you!?

I know you know I know.

[Slaol]

There seem to be 10 players, but 9 roles on role list. Not sure if error, or I have done too much acid today.

[RLVG]

There seem to be 10 players, but 9 roles on role list. Not sure if error, or I have done too much acid today.

1 Mafia(Godfather)
2 Mafia
3 Mafia(Traitor)

4 Benign Neutral

5 Town
6 Town
7 Town
8 Town
9 Citizen



1 AppleyNO
2 Slaol
3 Creedkingsx
4 Damus_Graves
5 Mintberry Crunch
6 Chane
7 Clementine
8 Jr4life24
9 RLVG
10 Roflcopter


QUICK MOD KILL SOMEONE

[clementine]

There seem to be 10 players, but 9 roles on role list. Not sure if error, or I have done too much acid today.

Np guys, I solved the mystery. Appley is the MissingNO!

[Slaol]

OK. So, if I am going to scum hunt I need more people to post.

[Fatalis]

>.> I fail too much
There are 2 citizens

[creedkingsx]

Slaol tell mod Skype chat Brendan isn't in this game. I'll read better when I get home. Hopefully everything is fixed when I get home in setup

[Damus_Graves]

My intial supcisions within this brief couple of hours is mostly on Mintberry Crunch and Chane.

Both have, from my memory, looked at the thread (Mint posted like once) and Chane didnt post at all.

[Slaol]

Clementine*

[AppleyNO]

Clementine*
Im going to have to side with you on this Slaol.


Clementine has not added anything to day chat, besides a post voting for a gift and one post spamming.

Clementine, where are you?

Clementine
Will you come out now?

[Damus_Graves]

Im going to have to side with you on this Slaol.


Clementine has not added anything to day chat, besides a post voting for a gift and one post spamming.

Clementine, where are you?

Clementine
Will you come out now?

I wanna say that if Creed is actually a Citizen than I would believe Clem to be the neutral based on this chat.

[Slaol]

Im going to have to side with you on this Slaol.


Clementine has not added anything to day chat, besides a post voting for a gift and one post spamming.

Clementine, where are you?

Clementine
Will you come out now?

No lynch today...

[clementine]

Im going to have to side with you on this Slaol.


Clementine has not added anything to day chat, besides a post voting for a gift and one post spamming.

Clementine, where are you?

Clementine
Will you come out now?

Nothing to see here. Move along now! ;)

[Slaol]

I wanna say that if Creed is actually a Citizen than I would believe Clem to be the neutral based on this chat.

Good news! Damus and Clem are Mafia.

[clementine]

I can't quite remember what I was doing in this thread!

[Roflcopter]

Hi.

-vote 1

What happens if the gift votes tie, do we get more than one gift?!

[Roflcopter]

I think all the mafia should reveal, so we can help them lynch their traitor.

[Damus_Graves]

Up. You got me Slaol.
Me and Clem are mafia.
Damn you MVP.

[Slaol]

Hi.

Look at this scum

[Slaol]

Up. You got me Slaol.
Me and Clem are mafia.
Damn you MVP.

Confession

[Damus_Graves]

Confession

Yeah :(
Mafia can't win now.

-surrender

[Roflcopter]

Look at this scum

Shit, you found me out, i'm dah executioner and my target is fatalis.

[Fatalis]

Hi.

-vote 1

What happens if the gift votes tie, do we get more than one gift?!

I'll toss a coin 99 times

[Slaol]

Shit, you found me out, i'm dah executioner and my target is fatalis.

Target isn't necessarily Town.

Fatalis

[AppleyNO]

Target isn't necessarily Town.

Fatalis
But its more likely to be town.

[Slaol]

But its more likely to be town.

Just get on with the lynching, Appley.

[Damus_Graves]

@Slaol

Did you notice Fatalis' copy reaction? (He reacted as I did to your FoS)?

[Slaol]

@Slaol

Did you notice Fatalis' copy reaction? (He reacted as I did to your FoS)?

Dehuwhat?

[creedkingsx]

Dehuwhat?

xD

[Damus_Graves]

Slaol isn't paying attention.

Got it.

[Slaol]

Slaol isn't paying attention.

Got it.

Who is attention, and how much damn right I'm not giving him any money.

[Chane]

:o

[Damus_Graves]

:o

:|

[Chane]

:|

:D

[Jr4life24]

Hai
-Vote Gift 2

[creedkingsx]

this day will be wasted at this rate

[Damus_Graves]

Creed, what do you think about clem this game being possible Jester?

I believe, since she has been rather trolly this game so far, that she is a jester due to both meta and the near uselessness within her posts, even if its day one. it is unlike her to do this imo.

[creedkingsx]

I believe she considers herself better than all of us and until we give her reason to contribute, i.e. actually discuss something around the game that can spark progress.
At least I am. lol

[Jr4life24]

this day will be wasted at this rate

So true. So very true

[creedkingsx]

AppleyNO- fuck ewe
Slaol- fuck ewe
Creedkingsx- ewe chil brah
Damus_Graves- fuck ewe
Mintberry Crunch- scum play, fuck ewe
Chane- faces are stupid, fuck ewe
Clementine- post more, fuck ewe
Jr4life24- I tink you chill brah
RLVG- fuck ewe
Roflcopter- fuck ewe the most

[RLVG]

AppleyNO- fuck ewe
Slaol- fuck ewe
Creedkingsx- ewe chil brah
Damus_Graves- fuck ewe
Mintberry Crunch- scum play, fuck ewe
Chane- faces are stupid, fuck ewe
Clementine- post more, fuck ewe
Jr4life24- I tink you chill brah
RLVG- fuck ewe
Roflcopter- fuck ewe the most

Are you high?

[Jim]

Creed you should know my play style is checking like 1-2 a day and never posting except for lynches, prob why I got mod killed in the FM.

[creedkingsx]

Creed you should know my play style is checking like 1-2 a day and never posting except for lynches, prob why I got mod killed in the FM.

My first time playing with you, we were both scum. :P

[Jr4life24]

AppleyNO- fuck ewe
Slaol- fuck ewe
Creedkingsx- ewe chil brah
Damus_Graves- fuck ewe
Mintberry Crunch- scum play, fuck ewe
Chane- faces are stupid, fuck ewe
Clementine- post more, fuck ewe
Jr4life24- I tink you chill brah
RLVG- fuck ewe
Roflcopter- fuck ewe the most
Oic man. i do a killing you do da cleaning den we betray da gf and we win gg

[creedkingsx]

Oic man. i do a killing you do da cleaning den we betray da gf and we win gg

totes brah

[Fatalis]

Day ending in 10 minutes

[Fatalis]

Night 1
Gift 2 Effect have been Revealed! Framer can unframe mafia members, Bodyguard can watch a second target, if the watched target is the attacker, the bodyguard won't die and instead kill the watched target

[Fatalis]

Day 1
Slaol was killed, his remains were torn to shreds until no one knew what he is, or was
Three Gifts are now here! Choose one again!

[clementine]

-vote 2

[Damus_Graves]

-vote 2

Poor Slaol :(

This means Mafia have a janitor?

[clementine]

Damus_Graves

[Jim]

-vote 2

[Damus_Graves]

Damus_Graves

Well its about time you started being aggressive

[creedkingsx]

I was gonna vote clem when I got home. This should be interesting

[Damus_Graves]

Feedback:
Nothing happened to me, I got no results of worth

[Damus_Graves]

Also:
Clem or Creed is the neutral benign and the other is town.
Reason: Meta + Post Analysis

[RLVG]

Feedback:
Nothing happened to me, I got no results of worth

No results of worth at all?

[RLVG]

-vote 3

[creedkingsx]

I got no results of worth

of worth?

clementine

[Damus_Graves]

Yes. none of worth, well. Not of worth today.

[RLVG]

Yes. none of worth, well. Not of worth today.

It could be of worth.

[Damus_Graves]

It could be of worth.

It will do much more harm than good.

[Damus_Graves]

It will do much more harm than good.

Today**

[Damus_Graves]

Creed seems more likely to be a neutral benign based on his activity these past two days compared with the activity he showed in the other SFM going on.
He is a bit more active there than here.

I would suspect him of being a Jester/Executioner/Amnesiac more than Student. And I'd suspect him of being Executioner over all the rest.

[Damus_Graves]

Creed seems more likely to be a neutral benign based on his activity these past two days compared with the activity he showed in the other SFM going on.
He is a bit more active there than here.

I would suspect him of being a Jester/Executioner/Amnesiac more than Student. And I'd suspect him of being Executioner over all the rest.

Jester**


Correction

[AppleyNO]

-Vote 2

What are you hiding, Damus? I'm trying to see your multiple WIFOM shroud here, yet I can't pinpoint when it ends.

[AppleyNO]

I would like to call attention to Chane for the time being.

He posted faces day one.
Like that is it.... Not the kind of play style I have come to expect of him. This leads me to believe that Chane is either a hiding town PR, the Benign Neutral(Jester), or a scum WIFOMing Jester.

I would put creed into the town category for the time being. Clementine has been a lot less helpful, however. She should have posted something else by now. Why is everyone so jesterish?

Clementine
Clem, you are being voted by me because of your only post voting someone else. You usually back this up or vote someone else by now. I have never seen this from Clem before.

[creedkingsx]

I am more inclined to think Damus is town over Clem.

[AppleyNO]

I am more inclined to think Damus is town over Clem.
I agree with this. So then the question is, is Clementine the benign neutral, or is Chane?

[Damus_Graves]

-Vote 2

What are you hiding, Damus? I'm trying to see your multiple WIFOM shroud here, yet I can't pinpoint when it ends.

All will be revealed upon the next day I promise.
All expect my role of course. Best to keep that in the dark for now.

[Damus_Graves]

I agree with this. So then the question is, is Clementine the benign neutral, or is Chane?

Clem over Chane because Chane has shown to be online less and less and posts even less than that, opting to post a huge amount over a brief timeframe.

Clem on the other hand should have contributed something more than a random vote by now. Which makes me think she is Jester using this piece of meta against herself.

[Damus_Graves]

I would like to call attention to Chane for the time being.

He posted faces day one.
Like that is it.... Not the kind of play style I have come to expect of him. This leads me to believe that Chane is either a hiding town PR, the Benign Neutral(Jester), or a scum WIFOMing Jester.

I would put creed into the town category for the time being. Clementine has been a lot less helpful, however. She should have posted something else by now. Why is everyone so jesterish?

Clementine
Clem, you are being voted by me because of your only post voting someone else. You usually back this up or vote someone else by now. I have never seen this from Clem before.

Creed vs Clem:

Clem came right out with a random vote and the day before was rather usually trolly while creed has been a bit more WIFOMy in regards to his alignment. He put himself into the town/neutral view with others on purpose. It...OH!
nvm

[AppleyNO]

Creed vs Clem:

Clem came right out with a random vote and the day before was rather usually trolly while creed has been a bit more WIFOMy in regards to his alignment. He put himself into the town/neutral view with others on purpose. It...OH!
nvm
What?

[Damus_Graves]

What?

I just come to a conclusion about Creed and his plan.
He is town. :p

[AppleyNO]

I just come to a conclusion about Creed and his plan.
He is town. :p
Ok then. Welcome to my layer of thinking, brother! Together we will kill the scum!

FOR GREAT JUSTICE!

[Damus_Graves]

Ok then. Welcome to my layer of thinking, brother! Together we will kill the scum!

FOR GREAT JUSTICE!

Forgive me if I don't jump on board with your buddying ^.^

[AppleyNO]

Forgive me if I don't jump on board with your buddying ^.^
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm just kidding. Its all in good fun.

What I can't make my mind up about is Clementine and Chane.

[Damus_Graves]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm just kidding. Its all in good fun.

What I can't make my mind up about is Clementine and Chane.

Why so focused and pushing aside both Mintberry and Roflcopter, who are just as oddly as Clem and Chane?

[Damus_Graves]

Well... not just as. but close.

What your thoughts on their play atm?

[AppleyNO]

Well... not just as. but close.

What your thoughts on their play atm?
Mint is mint, when hasn't he lurked? Its his play style and so far he is following it. Wasn't he mafia the last time he did this, however? There is something to look at.
Rolf I personally expect to start posting and making points. He trolled Day Zero, but was somewhat active. I expect him to comment on these things shortly.

[Damus_Graves]

My Opinion:

Mint is really scummy by way of lack of post substance and count. His two posts for the previous day were along the lines of "Hi" and "Why am I so scummy" which both lack inspiration in the view of him being town. Until he starts being more active in the chat I am going to look upon him as scummy.

Rolfcopter trolled during day and claimed executioner and practically copied my reaction at Slaol, which looks like scum trying to blend behind a townie (Looking at it from mafia viewpoint. From Town view point it is a kneejerk reaction). Really unsure about him unless he gives more substance but I am leaning more towards town than scum just because of the troll exe claim.

[AppleyNO]

Mint is really scummy by way of lack of post substance and count. His two posts for the previous day were along the lines of "Hi" and "Why am I so scummy" which both lack inspiration in the view of him being town. Until he starts being more active in the chat I am going to look upon him as scummy.
Your right. Mint was more active in your game when he was town.

[Damus_Graves]

Your right. Mint was more active in your game when he was town.

Now you get why I like to host. I pick up all sorts of tidbits

[Damus_Graves]

RLVG just lurked.
Whatcha doing RLVG?

[Damus_Graves]

Could you be paired with Mint and see him getting FoS'd and decided to let attention slip onto him and gain a chance to get town points by voting him when his time comes (Assuming mint is scum)

[RLVG]

RLVG just lurked.
Whatcha doing RLVG?

I played pokemon online, actually. :p

I were also kind of letting you two talk to get a higher read, I agree about Mint but the games I've been in he acts like that on the start.

[Roflcopter]

Nothing happened to me last night.

I wonder why slaol of all people was killed, maybe he suspected someone :o

You'd think the mafia would go after clementine with her previous FM history, unless the mafia is new, or clementine is mafia.

So yah, I think that, for 100% sure, either clementine or RLVG is mafia.

[Roflcopter]

-vote gift 3

[Damus_Graves]

Nothing happened to me last night.

I wonder why slaol of all people was killed, maybe he suspected someone :o

You'd think the mafia would go after clementine with her previous FM history, unless the mafia is new, or clementine is mafia.

So yah, I think that, for 100% sure, either clementine or RLVG is mafia.

Why RLVG?

[Damus_Graves]

lurking!!!!!!

[Damus_Graves]

Right then.
Concluding Clem is a Jester, Creed is town, Mint is scummy, Rofl is scummy based on their posts and activity levels

[Roflcopter]

rlvg because would be newer mafia player and not go for clem.

[Damus_Graves]

rlvg because would be newer mafia player and not go for clem.

Chane, Roflcopter, RLVG, JR4life24 (somewhat), Mintberry

All would not necessarily go for clem.
Bad argument is bad.
You are still scummy

[Roflcopter]

k.

[Damus_Graves]

:|

[Roflcopter]

So what are we doing this day?

[Damus_Graves]

This is not troll day one Roflcopter.
Get serious and start caring

[Roflcopter]

And my question remains, what are we doing today, what do we want to get done? What is the towns objective on this daY?

[Damus_Graves]

And my question remains, what are we doing today, what do we want to get done? What is the towns objective on this daY?

Scum Hunt.
Since there have been no hidden codes, either from sheriffs-inves-lookouts-detectives, from my knowledge, that means that no one has a solid lead.
So post analysis is left over and you and Mint are the biggest scum targets today and the focus on the conversation, WHICH DOESN'T EXIST!.

Thats what happening today. Why shouldn't we lynch one of you for the apparent scummness?

Just as incentive to talk:

Roflcopter


I vote you over Mint because you are here.

[Damus_Graves]

Also why is creed suddenly silent

[creedkingsx]

one thing we haven't done.
Meta out the list.

Godfather
Janitor
Framer(Traitor)

Jester/Amnesiac

Sheriff
Vigilante
Bodyguard
Lookout
Citizen
Citizen

Possible Town Roles: sheriff,Investigator,Detective,Lookout,Doctor,Body guard,Veteran,Vigilante,Jailor,Escort
Possible Benign Neutral Roles: Jester,Executioner,Student,Amnesiac
Possible Mafia Roles: Mafioso,Blackmailer,Consort,Fabricator,Framer,Jani tor,Consigliere

[creedkingsx]

I think we have BG and Framer based on the gift reveal. Why bother making a gift with roles that aren't in the game?
So 1, if not both, are probably in the game. I hinge on both.

We know Janitor for obvious reasons.

I think Framer is the Traitor because it would have the best standalone chance over Janitor against town.

Sheriff, Vigilante, Lookout are all standard and balanced setup roles.

I think I know Damus' role.

I think Slaol was Citizen with me.

[Damus_Graves]

I think we have BG and Framer based on the gift reveal. Why bother making a gift with roles that aren't in the game?
So 1, if not both, are probably in the game. I hinge on both.

We know Janitor for obvious reasons.

I think Framer is the Traitor because it would have the best standalone chance over Janitor against town.

Sheriff, Vigilante, Lookout are all standard and balanced setup roles.

I think I know Damus' role.

I think Slaol was Citizen with me.

As I think to know yours.

I agree on the Framer part about it being most likely to be Traitor.

In lieu of Lookout I think there is a Detective in its place

[creedkingsx]

I just like Lookout more than Detective. xD
Detective is significantly weaker than Lookout haha

[Damus_Graves]

I just like Lookout more than Detective. xD
Detective is significantly weaker than Lookout haha
Hence the inclusion.
If Sheriff + Vigi I would expect Detect

[creedkingsx]

It's already (probably) 5v3v1. I suggest we lynch someone today. My best bet is on Clementine right now.

[Damus_Graves]

It's already (probably) 5v3v1. I suggest we lynch someone today. My best bet is on Clementine right now.

B..but..but..
Rofl scummy.
Mint scummy.

scummier than Clem imo!

[RLVG]

RLVG is mafia.

Wrong. I'm not a mafia. I can gurantee that.


rlvg because would be newer mafia player and not go for clem.

Lol, you're saying that you underestimate me for being a newer player?




I suggest we lynch someone today.


Damus_Graves


clementine

Hmm, if Clem is a possible jester then why are you so stuck on Clem?
Voting on Damus with no actual reason is scummy as hell, but it might be either wifom protection or a jester cry.

[creedkingsx]

Because if clem wanted to play Jester, she would play smarter than the obvious Jester plays of lurk. Vote without reason, such n such.
It seems more like scum wifoming Jester.

[Damus_Graves]

Because if clem wanted to play Jester, she would play smarter than the obvious Jester plays of lurk. Vote without reason, such n such.
It seems more like scum wifoming Jester.

Makes sense. Clem plays better than this.

Clementine

[creedkingsx]

Because I know some fuckwit is going to want to do it:

DO NO HAMMER UNTIL CLEMENTINE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEFEND HERSELF.

[clementine]

I'm detective. Last night I followed Damus to the kill. Sheep me on this. Lynch me if I'm wrong.

[Damus_Graves]

I'm detective. Last night I followed Damus to the kill. Sheep me on this. Lynch me if I'm wrong.

I wonder if I will be allowed to prove this as false today or not.

[clementine]

Also I'm invest and ROFLCOPTER is cit/veteran/can't be neutral since I'm neutral/can't be mafioso since I'm sheriff with an inno on him.

[Damus_Graves]

Also I'm invest and ROFLCOPTER is cit/veteran/can't be neutral since I'm neutral/can't be mafioso since I'm sheriff with an inno on him.

:|

[creedkingsx]

Damus. I want to hear what you did last night.

[RLVG]

I'm detective. Last night I followed Damus to the kill. Sheep me on this. Lynch me if I'm wrong.

You lie.

You're a bad jester, or bad mafia scum.

[clementine]

All will be revealed upon the next day I promise.
All expect my role of course. Best to keep that in the dark for now.

DON'T LET HIM GET AWAY.
He's probably janitor who wants 1 more night to use up both his cleaning charges duh.

[Damus_Graves]

You lie.

You're a bad jester, or bad mafia scum.

O.o

@Creed
I can't tell just yet. I made a promise

[creedkingsx]

You lie.

You're a bad jester, or bad mafia scum.

see this confusion you are experiencing.
Why would a Jester, especially one as experienced as Clementine, want to create confusion?
Scum, on the other hand, would love to create confusion to delay the day from a lynch. Leading town to lose majority tonight.

[creedkingsx]

Implying you are jailor.

[RLVG]

Also I'm invest and ROFLCOPTER is cit/veteran/can't be neutral since I'm neutral/can't be mafioso since I'm sheriff with an inno on him.

You flip Detective->Invest->Neutral->Sheriff



INTERESTING!!!

"Citizen/Veteran/Student/Amnesiac/Mafioso"

You're a Mafia member who received a Student, WIFOMing horrible jester.

[creedkingsx]

Or Damus might be student and made a promise to his master.
That or Jailor.
He is implying one of those.

[RLVG]

I made a promise

How do you make a promise outside of this thread?

[creedkingsx]

How do you make a promise outside of this thread?


Implying you are jailor.


Or Damus might be student and made a promise to his master.
That or Jailor.
He is implying one of those.

:|

[Damus_Graves]

:|

^^

[RLVG]

^^

Damus, Reveal now.

I know exactly what you did.

[Damus_Graves]

Damus, Reveal now.

I know exactly what you did.

Okay then.

I was jailed last night.

[clementine]

If he's student or jailor then why is Slaol dead?

It's k guys, I got this. Imma follow RVLG tonight.

Note how Damus needs time to figure out his explanation for visiting Slaol. Highly suspicious!

[creedkingsx]

Why are we talkin in red

[Damus_Graves]

If he's student or jailor then why is Slaol dead?

It's k guys, I got this. Imma follow RVLG tonight.

Note how Damus needs time to figure out his explanation for visiting Slaol. Highly suspicious!


Did you miss me stating I made a promise not to reveal, and slightly implying to the townspeople paying attention (Doubt scum had picked it up), jailor in game until RLVG was like NO! I am jailor and you are wrong!

[clementine]

I
Okay then.

I was jailed last night.

Wall hacks! Must have been that bus driver!

[Damus_Graves]

Possible Town: sheriff,Investigator,Detective,Lookout,Doctor,Body guard,Veteran,Vigilante,Jailor,Escort


:|

[clementine]

Ok you guys got me. I'm actually not a detective. I'm actually a sheriff with a guilty on Damus. So! We should still lynch him today!

[Damus_Graves]

Ok you guys got me. I'm actually not a detective. I'm actually a sheriff with a guilty on Damus. So! We should still lynch him today!

Your not town.

There is no chance you would have lead the town on this wild a goose chase and smear your cred this bad to actually be town aligned

[RLVG]

Did you miss me stating I made a promise not to reveal, and slightly implying to the townspeople paying attention (Doubt scum had picked it up), jailor in game until RLVG was like NO! I am jailor and you are wrong!

Derp, I'm not the jailor.

However, I'm going to gurantee this information :



Damus can't kill.

[Damus_Graves]

Derp, I'm not the jailor.

However, I'm going to gurantee this information :



Damus can't kill.


:|


The jailor specifically told me not to reveal him today.
Thanks for being anti-town RLVG

[Damus_Graves]

Damus can't kill.

Nor clean.

[RLVG]

:|


The jailor specifically told me not to reveal him today.
Thanks for being anti-town RLVG

Actually, I'm giving this information so the Jailor knows you cannot hurt town in the current state - finding a more suitable target.

Also, you've never said that you were jailed until now - yet you promoted lynching earlier which effectively prevents the Jailor from working.



What I found rather strange is the Scum Triangle of Clem/Rofl/Damus, upon what information was given and votes.

I'm going to lean towards Clem being a mafia with Rofl as a student, if Damus is in fact a mafia himself then I wouldn't worry too much due to his inability to kill.

[RLVG]

Godfather
Janitor
Framer(Traitor)

Student / Jester

???
Jailor?
Bodyguard
???
Citizen
Citizen

Possible Town Roles: sheriff,Investigator,Detective,Lookout,Doctor,Body guard,Veteran,Vigilante,Jailor,Escort
Possible Benign Neutral Roles: Jester,Executioner,Student,Amnesiac
Possible Mafia Roles: Mafioso,Blackmailer,Consort,Fabricator,Framer,Jani tor,Consigliere


Copied from Creed, with modifications. ??? are those who's not confirmed, ? means it's almost confirmed.



We're currently in the danger zone, I believe we need to start roleclaiming because Town cannot outvote the mafia next night.
It's a little too risky with a "I was jailed" story, since there's no direct evidence.

Now -
Remaining : 5 town, 1 neutral, 3 mafia.
Worst case scenario : 5 town, 4 mafia.

Next Day -
Remaining : 4 town, 1 neutral, 3 mafia.
Worst case scenario : 4 town, 4 mafia.

[RLVG]

I'm off for a while, so don't take that as lurking. :p

[Chane]

g2g to school now, be on in 3 hours and I will do some talking and stuff. this day is gonna be interesting.

[Roflcopter]

Wtf did I just read?

Well i'm officially confused and have no idea why clementine claimed 5 different things at once.

Anyway, let me throw some confusion on myself as well!

I may or may not be a citizen, I may or may not be a town power role, I may or may not a mafia member, I may or may not be a benign neutral!

Now look at the order I put those in and begin the random accusations and claims!

Or something.

Anyway, I still don't have a clear idea of what to do right now, but clementine does seem very suspicious..

I'll vote later incase someone pops up with something important.

[Roflcopter]

ALso, how is framer/bodyguard confirmed? The host explicitly said that the roles may not even exist and still get a present.

[RLVG]

Wtf did I just read?

Well i'm officially confused and have no idea why clementine claimed 5 different things at once.

Anyway, let me throw some confusion on myself as well!

I may or may not be a citizen, I may or may not be a town power role, I may or may not a mafia member, I may or may not be a benign neutral!

Now look at the order I put those in and begin the random accusations and claims!

Or something.

Anyway, I still don't have a clear idea of what to do right now, but clementine does seem very suspicious..

I'll vote later incase someone pops up with something important.

You don't seem to react on my claim that you may be the Student of Clem, with Clem doing a tell on that. :p
Instead you say Clem's suspicious.

[Roflcopter]

Oh, I kinda stopped reading after reading clems 5x role-claim.

Anyway, who knows, maybe I am!

Or maybe i'm not.

[Chane]

did borkbot hack clem?

[Chane]

I recognize the style yet I think she is either town/mafia, leaning towards maf but not sure at this point. gotta think it a though a bit

[Chane]

9 hours left btw, I will be on-line for the majority, thinking....

[RLVG]

9 hours left btw, I will be on-line for the majority, thinking....

At least you're not lurking.

[Chane]

4 votes: clementine

doesn't seem town enough to me. mafia confusion at best.

[AppleyNO]

What the fuck Clem?

No. Your not allowed to do this.

[AppleyNO]

Wtf did I just read?

Well i'm officially confused and have no idea why clementine claimed 5 different things at once.

Anyway, let me throw some confusion on myself as well!

I may or may not be a citizen, I may or may not be a town power role, I may or may not a mafia member, I may or may not be a benign neutral!

Now look at the order I put those in and begin the random accusations and claims!

Or something.

Anyway, I still don't have a clear idea of what to do right now, but clementine does seem very suspicious..

I'll vote later incase someone pops up with something important.
It doesn't work when you do it.

[creedkingsx]

Also, you've never said that you were jailed until now - yet you promoted lynching earlier which effectively prevents the Jailor from working.

Stopped at this part.
Those fucking idiots in sc2mafia that say, "oh don't lynch, let Jailor jail."
Fuck you.

Yeah, it's so much better to be the fate of the game in the hands of one person than it is the entire town.
Yeah that sounds like a significantly better situation. Let's do that.

THIS IS NOT SC2MAFIA. STOP TREATING IT LIKE IT IS.

/minirantover

[creedkingsx]

Anyway, let me throw some confusion on myself as well!

I may or may not be a citizen, I may or may not be a town power role, I may or may not a mafia member, I may or may not be a benign neutral!.

Stopped after this.
this is literally the most anti town post I have ever seen.

roflcopter

[RLVG]

Stopped at this part.
Those fucking idiots in sc2mafia that say, "oh don't lynch, let Jailor jail."
Fuck you.

You did not understand me. :p

If Damus were jailed and would care more for town, it would actually be better not to promote a lynch due to how anonyme the Jailor currently is (well, not anymore) - while the Jailor is the perfect roleblock to the mafia killer, or at least carry out the execution on a voted player to prove it's existance.

With that in mind, votes are put out at Rofl and then Clem.



I find that story of being jailed unbelieveable somehow, so I pressed on.


Currently there's 5 town, with either (3 mafia & 1 neutral), (4 mafia) or (6 town, 3 mafia).

Do you know how dangerous a mislynch is? It will cause it to be 4 town, one more will be killed the following night and then we're effectively outnumbered.

[creedkingsx]

Do you know how dangerous it would be if Jailor wound up jailing a town?

[RLVG]

Do you know how dangerous it would be if Jailor wound up jailing a town?

If the town member get jailed, Mafia attempts to attack the jailed? Allows the rest of town to do their actions while having one less janitor clean.

That's not the point however, my point is that if we lynch now - we're more or less fucked with a mislynch, if jester is actually in play then we're even more screwed but I lean more towards a possible Student - which may have picked a mafia.

[creedkingsx]

If the town member get jailed, Mafia attempts to attack the jailed? Allows the rest of town to do their actions while having one less janitor clean.

If we lynch benign we are fine. that still keeps us majority tomorrow. Even if it is Jester.

As far as the jail case.
Yes, it would prove a Jailor exists, but if Jailor hits town, we lose. If Jailor doesn't execute, we lose. If the Jailor happens to hit mafia, we are still in the same position we are now.

[RLVG]

If we lynch benign we are fine. that still keeps us majority tomorrow. Even if it is Jester.

As far as the jail case.
Yes, it would prove a Jailor exists, but if Jailor hits town, we lose. If Jailor doesn't execute, we lose. If the Jailor happens to hit mafia, we are still in the same position we are now.

It would rule out a possible hoax story of an existing jailor, as I'm at 50-50 of the current story - essentially giving more clues on who are not a mafia killer while giving the investigation role a clue if there's one still.
If the Jailor story is a hoax, getting us to mislynch to get killed (outnumbered) then we may directly find the first scum.

If we follow by a mass claim the next day by roles and clues, we may possibly find the scum.



If we're to lynch, we really need to be sure it's a scum.

[RLVG]

Even if it is Jester.

5 town
Jester Kill -> Town
Mafia Kill
3 town.

[creedkingsx]

5 town
Jester Kill -> Town
Mafia Kill
3 town.

And if it kill mafia?
4v2 ezpz

[RLVG]

And if it kill mafia?
4v2 ezpz

What's the chance for that?

[creedkingsx]

What's the chance for that?

What's the chances of Jailor killing mafia?

[RLVG]

What's the chances of Jailor killing mafia?

I don't think a Jailor should kill, only that it jails in general to clear up a hoax story while removing the possibility that one is a killer.
There's also a double chance here, one being RB a killer while second protecting jailed from harm.

That's at least better then a jester having a higher chance killing a town upon lynch.

If the jailor story is false, it would put a high suspicion on Damus for a lie. It's basically a free clue.

[creedkingsx]

If jailor doesn't kill, we lose...

[RLVG]

If jailor doesn't kill, we lose...

Why are you so convinced on that we need to lynch / execute with danger of a mislynch or jester kill on town to outnumber?
If there's a jailor, we'll know. If there's not a jailor, we'll know.

I've been repeatively saying this, lol.

[creedkingsx]

Why are you so convinced on that we need to lynch / execute.

Did you not read the last 2 words of the statement you quoted?
RLVG

[Damus_Graves]

@RLVG

He asked me not to reveal Jailor in game so that the mafia don't spend their time hunting for him.

Therefore I had to act as if I didn't know jailor was in the game, hence the push to lynch.
Also. Jailor does not = superman. Just because he can provide multiple uses does not mean he is infallible. If he makes one mistake we lose.

[RLVG]

I've decided to give up on this conversation.

I've been trying to talk about outnumbering, ways to confirm a story while confirming another of not being a killer. Multiple ways of getting clues.



If town looses due to a harmfull lynch, good game. I'm going to take the chance.

Clementine

[Damus_Graves]

I've decided to give up on this conversation.

I've been trying to talk about outnumbering, ways to confirm a story while confirming another of not being a killer. Multiple ways of getting clues.



If town looses due to a harmfull lynch, good game. I'm going to take the chance.

Clementine

This is a very anti-town mindframe :|

[creedkingsx]

I've decided to give up on this conversation.

I've been trying to talk about outnumbering, ways to confirm a story while confirming another of not being a killer. Multiple ways of getting clues.



If town looses due to a harmfull lynch, good game. I'm going to take the chance.

Clementine

Your "ways to confirm" a story results in us losing... :|

[Damus_Graves]

So here is my-end-of-day-reads:

Town:
Damus - of course.
Creedkingsx - Strong town play. Push against those who talk anti-town.
RLVG - Logic use coupled with a strong push within his viewpoint.

Scummy People who I don't believe are 100% mafia just yet:
Roflcopter - Trolling past day two, lack of interest, unwilling to contribute within the day.
Mintberry - Never here. Never there.
Clementine - Obvious. Jailor should take this girl out if she doesn't get lynched.

The unknowns:
AppleyNO - Somewhat here and there, talks rarely, votes along with others votes. Neutral read. Could be something like Citizen could be Mafia
Jr4life24 - Where did he go?
Chane - Talk more damn you.

[RLVG]

Clementine - Obvious. Jailor should take this girl out if she doesn't get lynched.

Why not encourage the Jailor to jail & execute Clementine, if she happens to actually be a jester?
Better to execute then to lynch and gamble the death of a town.

[Damus_Graves]

Why not encourage the Jailor to jail & execute Clementine, if she happens to actually be a jester?
Better to execute then to lynch and gamble the death of a town.

Because she is playing to obvious to be a Jester. Which makes me think she is mafia. But im not sure on that.
Notice she has gone rather silent. Hm..

[Damus_Graves]

Alright RLVG that can work.

[Damus_Graves]

Clem is L-2

[RLVG]

I guess this can also help with the jailor story.

[Jr4life24]

So here is my-end-of-day-reads:

Town:
Damus - of course.
Creedkingsx - Strong town play. Push against those who talk anti-town.
RLVG - Logic use coupled with a strong push within his viewpoint.

Scummy People who I don't believe are 100% mafia just yet:
Roflcopter - Trolling past day two, lack of interest, unwilling to contribute within the day.
Mintberry - Never here. Never there.
Clementine - Obvious. Jailor should take this girl out if she doesn't get lynched.

The unknowns:
AppleyNO - Somewhat here and there, talks rarely, votes along with others votes. Neutral read. Could be something like Citizen could be Mafia
Jr4life24 - Where did he go?
Chane - Talk more damn you.
I vanished for da school. I back now for da many hours now.

Give me a sec to read

[Chane]

I don't need to talk any more really, if I die I did my service at night

[RLVG]

I don't need to talk any more really, if I die I did my service at night

Service at night? :weird:

[creedkingsx]

Service at night? :weird:

claiming non citizen.

[Jr4life24]

I don't need to talk any more really, if I die I did my service at night
Jailor?

[RLVG]

Jailor?

Well fuck. There goes the jailor... If he really is the jailor, he kind of ruined it all since Chane as an AFK'r is a good scum = frame target.

[Roflcopter]

I wonder if citizens can get a present, maybeh a vest?

[creedkingsx]

Oh yeah, -vote 2

[RLVG]

I wonder if citizens can get a present, maybeh a vest?

Would be benefital, but the one who claims Citizen is Creed - if they get a vest for the night, mafia would stay away from him. Janitor will know if the dead guy is a citizen or not. Curious why it's relevant to you though, do you claim a citizen?

... Gifts are temporary, right?:weird:



Anyway, I'm off early today.

[Damus_Graves]

Lol at all the "WIFOM"

[Damus_Graves]

Mintberry Crunch

:|

[Damus_Graves]

Mintberry Crunch

:|

Bad lurking is lurking

[Fatalis]

THIS IS MY FINAL WARNING AGAINST THOSE WHO HAVEN'T CONTRIBUTED ( MINTBERRY CRUNCH, JR4LIFE24, CHANE ) IF YOU DON'T CONTRIBUTE BY THE END OF THIS DAY, YOU WILL GET MODKILLED, REGARDLESS OF YOUR ROLE

[Fatalis]

Nvm sorry Chane >.> I haven't read you posted

[Fatalis]

Would be benefital, but the one who claims Citizen is Creed - if they get a vest for the night, mafia would stay away from him. Janitor will know if the dead guy is a citizen or not. Curious why it's relevant to you though, do you claim a citizen?

... Gifts are temporary, right?:weird:



Anyway, I'm off early today.
They are permanent, sorry for not making it clear

[Damus_Graves]

Nvm sorry Chane >.> I haven't read you posted

Jr posted too

[Damus_Graves]

They are permanent, sorry for not making it clear

whhy?

[Fatalis]

Jr posted too
I said contributed

[creedkingsx]

Jr posted too


I said contributed

Yeah that.

I wouldn't consider Chane to have contributed. lol

[Damus_Graves]

I said contributed

XD

[Jim]

Sry was reading from Page 1 last half hour give me a minute to write out some thoughts.

[Fatalis]

Day ending in 10 minutes
If Jr4Life24 and MintBerry Crunch doesn't contrbute by then I will modkill them

[Jim]

Your right. Mint was more active in your game when he was town.

I was Mafia who claimed town and everyone belived me, there is a difference.



Damus, Reveal now.

I know exactly what you did.



Okay then.

I was jailed last night.

And then no responce, I am confused.

[Jim]

I am putting Clem at the top of my scum-ometer but then again I put myself at the top of it just slightly under her. (I have been scummy and I am not a biased person)

[Jim]

Fatalis am I off the hook yet or do I need to post more?

[Jim]

Also Damus seems like the only one who is actually considereing me as scum I think so I will put him as a Executioner with me as target.

[Damus_Graves]

I am putting Clem at the top of my scum-ometer but then again I put myself at the top of it just slightly under her. (I have been scummy and I am not a biased person)

Subtle attempt to displace suspicion. If Clem flips town you look town as well.
If clem flips something like Jester you look less scummyish

[Fatalis]

Fatalis am I off the hook yet or do I need to post more?
You should post as much as possible before day ends

[Jim]

Oic man. i do a killing you do da cleaning den we betray da gf and we win gg

He said this before Janitor was revealed as a confirmed role so this could be a scum slip.

[Jim]

You should post as much as possible before day ends

Yes sir.

[Damus_Graves]

He said this before Janitor was revealed as a confirmed role so this could be a scum slip.

Its not. Too obvious

[Jim]

g2g to school now, be on in 3 hours and I will do some talking and stuff. this day is gonna be interesting.

Then responds 3 hours later, scum arn't timely so I say that he is town.

[Jim]

Its not. Too obvious

He said that D1 so nobody was cleaned yet.

[Jim]

I'm done hopefully not modkilled.

[Fatalis]

Night 2
Gift 2 was chosen! Citizen now got 1 vest(manually activated) and Consigliere can detect 2 people per night!
Unfortunately, Jr4life24 have been replaced by Ash due to his relative inactivity
Mintberry Crunch and Chane narrowly escaped the same fate

[Fatalis]

NOBODY HAVE PM''ED ME A NIGHT ACTION, EXTENDING DAY TILL ATLEAST HALF OF THE PLAYERS WHO CAN SEND A NIGHT ACTION SENDS

[Fatalis]

And by DAY I mean NIGHT