Day 5: Trust the Jailor you say?

[Forum Mafia GM]

After putting all their trust into the jailor for the night, The GM said "NO!" And thus the thunderstorm hit and washed away a bunch of dead weight. Now the Mafia, SK, and town could focus more on the real "players" instead of the "afk" / "don't give a ..." players.

And the scum didn't take long to take advantage of this either, for Indiana Jones' gun must have been empty when the swordsman showed up... and he was killed by the SK.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZAPm_pEI5w

3 other bodies were found elsewhere: Hungry, Weight Watchers Nemesis, was found dead in the Kitchen with a Box of Cookies! who was also dead. Hungry was shot by a professional marksmen whereas Cookie Monster was sloppily blow away with a rocket launcher... which also happened to be left behind by the shooter. Both were citizens.

Jack Sparrow finally met his end at the hands of the mafia. After running a marathon with the town chasing him ever since day 1 for some unknown reason. The poor citizen never had any rest for himself.

No modkills tonight.

Role list:
1-Citizen: FM Batman - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
2-Citizen
3-Citizen
4-Sheriff
5-Mafioso
6-Citizen: FM Col Jack ONeill - Killed by the Mafia
7-Citizen: FM Hungry - Killed by the Vigilante
8-Citizen: FM Yoda - Killed by the Mafia
9-Doctor
10-GodFather
11-Citizen
12-Citizen: FM Lone Ranger - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
13-Citizen: FM Count von Count - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
14-Vigilante
15-Consort: FM Watson - Killed by the town
16-Citizen
17-Citizen
18-Citizen: FM Frankenstein - Killed by a gun man.
19-Escort: FM Master Chef - Killed by the SK
20-Serial Killer
21-Citizen: FM Bridge Keeper - Killed by the Vigilante
22-Citizen
23-Citizen
24-Blacksmith
25-Consigliere: FM Dracula - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
26-Citizen: FM Mr T - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
27-Citizen: Jack Sparrow - Killed by the Mafia
28-Citizen
29-Doctor
30-Framer
31-Citizen: FM Yehat - Killed by the Mafia
32-Citizen: FM Mr Bunny - Killed by the Mafia
33-Citizen
34-Sheriff: FM Indiana Jones - Killed by the SK
35-Witch
36-Citizen: FM Gandalf - Killed by an angry town mob.
37-Citizen: FM Prince Thrakhath - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
38-Citizen: FM The Terminator - Killed by the SK
39-Jailor: FM Kermit - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
40-Mafioso: Pinkie Pie - Executed by the Jailor
41-Citizen: FM Cookie Monster - Killed by a gun rocket man.
42-Citizen: FM Animal - Killed by a gun man.


Player List:
01- FM Agahnim
02- FM Animal Citizen - Killed by a gun man
03- FM Anubis
04- FM Batman: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
05- FM Bridge Keeper: Citizen - Killed by the Vigilante
06- FM Captain Obvious
07- FM Ceasar
08- FM Col Jack ONeill: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
09- FM Cookie Monster: Citizen - Killed by a gun rocket man.
10- FM Count von Count: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
11- FM Dracula: Consigliere - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
12- FM Frankenstein: Citizen - Killed by a gun man.
13- FM Gandalf: Citizen - Killed by an angry town mob.
14- FM Gimli
15- FM Hamburglar
16- FM Hungry: Citizen - Killed by the Vigilante
17- FM Indiana Jones: Sheriff - Killed by the SK
18- FM Inspector Cluseau
19- FM Jack Sparrow: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
20- FM Kermit: Jailor - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
21- FM King Arthur
22- FM King Tut
23- FM Locutus
24- FM Lone Ranger: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
25- FM Master Chef: Escort - Killed by the SK
26- FM Michigan J Frog
27- FM Mr Bunny: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
28- FM Mr T: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
29- FM Pinkie Pie: Mafioso - Executed by the Jailor
30- FM Prince Thrakhath: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
31- FM Robin Hood
32- FM Rubber Ducky
33- FM Sherlock
34- FM SpongeBob
35- FM The Joker
36- FM The Terminator: Citizen - Killed by the SK
37- FM Watson: Consort - Killed by the Town
38- FM Wile E Coyote
39- FM Wolverine
40- FM Yehat: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
41- FM Yoda: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
42- FM Yosemite Sam


Players alive: 19
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Day will end Saturday Jan 5th, 8pm GMT-5 (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Saturday+january+5th+8pm+GMT-5)

[FM Captain Obvious]

FM Wolverine

[FM Ceasar]

-_-

This is not good. I was hoping that we would be able to move on to bigger things today. However, first I'm going to ask the question which is surely pressing heavily on everyone's minds... How the fuck is Sherlock still alive?

[Inspector Cluseau]

FM Wile E Coyote

[FM Captain Obvious]

-_-

This is not good. I was hoping that we would be able to move on to bigger things today. However, first I'm going to ask the question which is surely pressing heavily on everyone's minds... How the fuck is Sherlock still alive?

May I ask who you gave a rocket launcher to?

[Inspector Cluseau]

May I ask who you gave a rocket launcher to?

No you may not.

[FM Ceasar]

May I ask who you gave a rocket launcher to?

Cluseau

[Inspector Cluseau]

Cluseau

We're you manipulated?

[FM Ceasar]

We're you manipulated?

Tonight? No. I am talking about the rocket launcher which killed Cookie.

[FM Ceasar]

Well, today is probably going to be much simpler then I thought. Cluseau isn't claiming Witched. Seeing how he was revealed to having a gun, you would have expected a townie to hold on to the gun until the Witch is dead anyway. He claimed Jailor yesterday, which is confirmed to be false. Cookie Monster was pro-town, and Cluseau shot him.

...

I am having a hard time thinking of how Cluseau cannot be scum. Perhaps he could enlighten us.

[Inspector Cluseau]

Well, today is probably going to be much simpler then I thought. Cluseau isn't claiming Witched. Seeing how he was revealed to having a gun, you would have expected a townie to hold on to the gun until the Witch is dead anyway. He claimed Jailor yesterday, which is confirmed to be false. Cookie Monster was pro-town, and Cluseau shot him.

...

I am having a hard time thinking of how Cluseau cannot be scum. Perhaps he could enlighten us.

I was hoping to hit the Witch before (s)he took more guns from you and became a killing role. I have struggled to find people because I can't track which 'pro-town' speech actually means pro-town, since it appears obvious that scum are active. I read him and thought he might be Witch. I also thought Framer, but though either way it would be a good shot. I fucked up.

[Inspector Cluseau]

My Jailor claim- oh my, I claimed a role im not, lol. But yea, am not Jailor

[FM Captain Obvious]

Any reason in particular you voted Wile E Coyote?

[Inspector Cluseau]

Any reason in particular you voted Wile E Coyote?

He was my #2 shot possibility. Not able to post all the reads atm, can do in a little bit.

[FM Wolverine]

Any reason in particular you voted Wile E Coyote?

Any particular reason you voted me?

[FM Captain Obvious]

Any particular reason you voted me?

It was random.

[FM Wolverine]

Anyone claim witched last night? If not, we can assume it was Indiana.

[FM SpongeBob]

ceaser....you truely claim to have given a rocket launcher to the inspector, yes?

and yet the inspector claims not to have fired at cookie monster AND not witched?

something doesn't add up.




May I ask who you gave a rocket launcher to?
No you may not.


and in this statement, the inspector gives an odd reply.
well it would make sense that inspector wouldn't want us to know about his blunder... but why lie about it?



(this is probly the only time I've ever noticed something worth talking about in this game...)

[Inspector Cluseau]

Mafioso
Godfather
Framer

Serial Killer
Witch

Sheriff
Doctor
Doctor
Blacksmith
Vigilante
Citizen x9

[FM Anubis]

ceaser....you truely claim to have given a rocket launcher to the inspector, yes?

and yet the inspector claims not to have fired at cookie monster AND not witched?

something doesn't add up.




and in this statement, the inspector gives an odd reply.
well it would make sense that inspector wouldn't want us to know about his blunder... but why lie about it?



(this is probly the only time I've ever noticed something worth talking about in this game...)

maybe this person has more than one gun because the alleged blacksmith gave multiple guns to the same people.

[Inspector Cluseau]

ceaser....you truely claim to have given a rocket launcher to the inspector, yes?

and yet the inspector claims not to have fired at cookie monster AND not witched?

something doesn't add up.




and in this statement, the inspector gives an odd reply.
well it would make sense that inspector wouldn't want us to know about his blunder... but why lie about it?



(this is probly the only time I've ever noticed something worth talking about in this game...)

This isn't even correction any level. I claimed the in anew ways yesterday, then it was public by Ceasar. Then I spoke about it here today, and explained why I shot...

[FM Anubis]

sorry, healed Yosemite last night. friggin random.org

sherlock

vigi can't even do his job anymore. jailors dead lets lynch this fool, (of course after all the information is out, like witch and yosemite's claim of the day) but pile on your votes fast folks!

[FM Ceasar]

I was hoping to hit the Witch before (s)he took more guns from you and became a killing role. I have struggled to find people because I can't track which 'pro-town' speech actually means pro-town, since it appears obvious that scum are active. I read him and thought he might be Witch. I also thought Framer, but though either way it would be a good shot. I fucked up.

I would say that if you are town, which I am starting to seriously doubt, this was a pretty huge fuck up. I also guess I fucked up giving you the gun. I also realy don't like that when you made a list of people who you were considering shooting, you ommited Cookie, yet that's who you ended up shooting. Seems like you weren't planning on shooting Cookie to start with, yet you changed your mind after you were counciled by your mafia buddys.

You've lost a ton of town points over this, and yes, you may get lynched over this. However, I am waiting for the moment.

@SpongeBob: If I was lying about giving Cluseau the gun, I would not have claimed yesterday. The whole point of the claim was to avoid getting shot.

[FM Ceasar]

Btw, atm, we are being patient and waiting.

[Inspector Cluseau]

sorry, healed Yosemite last night. friggin random.org

sherlock

vigi can't even do his job anymore. jailors dead lets lynch this fool, (of course after all the information is out, like witch and yosemite's claim of the day) but pile on your votes fast folks!

Wait, was Yosemite attacked?

[FM Ceasar]

Wait, was Yosemite attacked?

No missing kills.

[Inspector Cluseau]

I would say that if you are town, which I am starting to seriously doubt, this was a pretty huge fuck up. I also guess I fucked up giving you the gun. I also realy don't like that when you made a list of people who you were considering shooting, you ommited Cookie, yet that's who you ended up shooting. Seems like you weren't planning on shooting Cookie to start with, yet you changed your mind after you were counciled by your mafia buddys.

You've lost a ton of town points over this, and yes, you may get lynched over this. However, I am waiting for the moment.

@SpongeBob: If I was lying about giving Cluseau the gun, I would not have claimed yesterday. The whole point of the claim was to avoid getting shot.

I changed because you were my #1 before your reveal, so I ditched my list once day ended and just reread people. Well, lynching me wouldn't be intelligent, but I completely understand why it will happen.

Yes, I fucked up. I am still town thoufh

[Inspector Cluseau]

No missing kills.

I know, unless you have some lingering guns.

[FM Wolverine]

Unless of course there are any guns left that have not been shot. IIRC there have only been 3 death descriptions that match blacksmith guns, which means 1-2 more guns are left unaccounted for. If Yosemite was attacked last night, the blacksmith will be able to tell us who is scum.

[FM Wolverine]

I know, unless you have some lingering guns.

Yeah, what he said.

[Inspector Cluseau]

I asked on day 1/2 for vests to be given out instead. What should have been done was.
Gun, vest, vest, vest... And keep giving vests until a shot is fired, so we had a sure fire knowledge of who would be shooting.

Ceasar, can we know who all received guns? I know I am scum now for the Cookie play, but it I'm be worth it to try and track who killed who, since all blacksmith guns have killed town

[Inspector Cluseau]

I know, unless you have some lingering guns.

Also, I think there should be a single gun remaining, if you have given out strictly guns

[FM Wolverine]

Personally, I think vests should always be given over guns unless it is absolutely necessary to break a town/scum tie.

[FM King Arthur]

I doth find it strange that thee all art supposedly thinking Anubis implies that Yosemite was attacked and healed. He only sayeth that he healed Yosemite. In other words, he claimeth that he didst target him.

I think tis reasonable to assume that Gimli, Spongebob and King Tut doth include one or two who hath something to hide. They hath contributed absolutely nothing thus far, yet were active enough to inform the Master of Games that they desired to remain in the game. A strange thing, as it hath seemed like they cared little.

[FM King Arthur]

As Sherlock cannot be the gaoler anymore, his possible roles hath been reduced to citizen, witch or serial killer in mine eyes. With a tiny chance of him being Godfather, which couldst not be detected by a sheriff after a connection to Watson was made. He doth seem like a valid lynch target to consider today, but let us be cautious.

[FM SpongeBob]

I doth find it strange that thee all art supposedly thinking Anubis implies that Yosemite was attacked and healed. He only sayeth that he healed Yosemite. In other words, he claimeth that he didst target him.

I think tis reasonable to assume that Gimli, Spongebob and King Tut doth include one or two who hath something to hide. They hath contributed absolutely nothing thus far, yet were active enough to inform the Master of Games that they desired to remain in the game. A strange thing, as it hath seemed like they cared little.

'cared little' is a little hard on me. i'm interested, but it's been a bit boring.

[FM Wolverine]

Also, I think there should be a single gun remaining, if you have given out strictly guns

I count two missing guns, assuming one was given on night one. If not, then you are correct.

@His Majesty-

I don't think anyone was saying (or at least, I know I wasn't) that Yosemite was attacked. We acknowledge that Anubis was only saying that he targeted Yosemite. The question is whether or not Yosemite WAS attacked by an MIA blacksmith gun.

However, looking back at the game mechanics, Anubis would know if Yosemite had been attacked last night, soI think it's safe to assume that he was not.

[FM Ceasar]

I am quite proud of my boyz, even though EVERY SINGLE ONE of my guns has been used to kill citizens. However, they were all disiplined enough to use the guns immediately after recieving them.

[FM SpongeBob]

I am quite proud of my boyz, even though EVERY SINGLE ONE of my guns has been used to kill citizens. However, they were all disiplined enough to use the guns immediately after recieving them.

So then you didn't only give out guns then?

[FM King Arthur]

Ceasar, doth thou confirm giving a vest to Dracula on the first night?

[FM Ceasar]

No missing guns.

N1: Random vest to Dracula(not willing to risk giving gun to Mafia N1)
N2: Gun given to Agahnim, immediately used to kill Frankenstein
N3: Gun given to Cookie Monster, immediately used to kill Animal
N4: Gun given to Cluseau, immediately used to kill Cookie Monster
N5: It's a secret

[Inspector Cluseau]

Ceasar, doth thou confirm giving a vest to Dracula on the first night?

How did you know this?

[FM SpongeBob]

How did you know this?

lol, yeah. I found that weird too

[FM Captain Obvious]

Where is Rubber Ducky?

[Inspector Cluseau]

Dracula- got vest
Arthur- knew that

Dracula- was mafia

Night chat, much, my liege?

[FM Ceasar]

Dracula said he recieved a vest N1. However, I thought most people ignored that...

[Inspector Cluseau]

Dracula said he recieved a vest N1. However, I thought most people ignored that...

Yea,I missed that lol

[FM King Arthur]

Not everyone doth slack.

[FM Wolverine]

I have something important to share. I received a vest last night.

For now, the King is not suspicious, merely observant.

[FM Anubis]

"Damn this phone, and concerning sherlock, I doubt he is scum as well. I just don't think the FM Game Master would makes sherlock and watson scum. My main suspicion is on kermit who did absolutely nothing yesterday."

Dracula covering for Sherlock. LYNCH THE SHERLOCK!

[Inspector Cluseau]

Kermit... Uh... Lol

[FM Ceasar]

I have something important to share. I received a vest last night.

Pretty boring stuff. If you want to see something more interesting on the topic of Dracula, read posts 200-230 of D4.

[FM Anubis]

"Damn this phone, and concerning sherlock, I doubt he is scum as well. I just don't think the FM Game Master would makes sherlock and watson scum. My main suspicion is on kermit who did absolutely nothing yesterday."

Dracula covering for Sherlock. LYNCH THE SHERLOCK!

post 96, day 2. i repeat, lynch sherlock.

[FM Ceasar]

post 96, day 2. i repeat, lynch sherlock.

I agree. That was a pretty scummy post you made.

[Inspector Cluseau]

fm Agahnim

[FM Wolverine]

fm Agahnim

Care to explain your reasoning for this?

[Inspector Cluseau]

Care to explain your reasoning for this?

Noap.

[FM Anubis]

we can assume that Cesar is true town, because no one counterclaims blacksmith right?

[FM Hamburglar]

I seriously give up on this game, Sherlock not dead after clearly being scum on D2.
Also too many citizens acting too fucking scummy

[FM Anubis]

because i messed up the first time

FM Sherlock

under no circumstances will I change my vote unless sheriff says he found someone someone else.

[FM Anubis]

I seriously give up on this game, Sherlock not dead after clearly being scum on D2.
Also too many citizens acting too fucking scummy

vote with me then.

[FM Wolverine]

Noap.

Ok then...


we can assume that Cesar is true town, because no one counterclaims blacksmith right?

Yes, but we can also assume that the witch is going to either become a vigilante or immune at night. I'm not sure having Ceasar claim was the right move, but he's done it now, so best to move on, I suppose.

[Inspector Cluseau]

FM Sherlock

[FM Wolverine]

I seriously give up on this game, Sherlock not dead after clearly being scum on D2.
Also too many citizens acting too fucking scummy

Giving up is pretty scummy if you ask me.

[Inspector Cluseau]

Giving up is pretty scummy if you ask me.

Giving upside angry town movement.

[Inspector Cluseau]

Giving up is angry town movement.

Fixed

[FM Wolverine]

Even if he is town, if he gives up, he may as well be scum because he'll be worthless to the town.

FM Sherlock

[FM Ceasar]

Message from Leader

THOROUGHLY read posts 200-230 on D4. There is one other person who I am considering for lynch/vigilante kill.

[FM Ceasar]

Also, posts #592+594 on D3

[FM Hamburglar]

I'm positive cesar is town now, after rereading his bits on D3. But ye, do we even have a shot at winning this now?
Witch can pretty much decide whether or not to shut down the sheriff or go rambo mode on us

[FM Anubis]

I'm positive cesar is town now, after rereading his bits on D3. But ye, do we even have a shot at winning this now?
Witch can pretty much decide whether or not to shut down the sheriff or go rambo mode on us

why haven't you voted yet?

[Inspector Cluseau]

Yea, Agahnim coupled with Dracula. Or did I miss something

[FM Hamburglar]

why haven't you voted yet?

i'm still waiting for sams post, if he found a 100% guilt i'll go with that. Although, we still have the framer around :s
I won't be around for the next couple of hours so i don't wanna be the reason of a premature lynch.

[FM Anubis]

Yea, Agahnim coupled with Dracula. Or did I miss something

damn it he beat me, but i saw that too

i am still unwilling to change my vote. vigilante can shoot dracula if he really wants to, but DEATH TO SHERLOCK.

[FM Anubis]

i'm still waiting for sams post, if he found a 100% guilt i'll go with that. Although, we still have the framer around :s
I won't be around for the next couple of hours so i don't wanna be the reason of a premature lynch.

so your next post after the sheriff's posts will be one with a lynch i hope. kay sounds good.

[FM Ceasar]

Yea, Agahnim coupled with Dracula. Or did I miss something

Yes, Agahnim is the other person who I am finding extremely scummy atm. While there was nothing concrete enough to vote against him previously, I had him coupled with Dracula in my notes. Dracula flipped mafia. I am starting to suspect that Agahnim may also very well be mafia.

I'm on and off the computer atm, but I'll be able to post more in-depth in ~2 hours.

[Inspector Cluseau]

damn it he beat me, but i saw that too

i am still unwilling to change my vote. vigilante can shoot dracula if he really wants to, but DEATH TO SHERLOCK.

Bro.... Check on that Vig kill on Dracula again...

[FM Ceasar]

damn it he beat me, but i saw that too

i am still unwilling to change my vote. vigilante can shoot dracula if he really wants to, but DEATH TO SHERLOCK.

Dracula is dead. We are talking about Agahnim now:p

[Inspector Cluseau]

Dracula is dead. We are talking about Agahnim now:p

He also talked about Kermit as if he were alive lol

[FM Anubis]

damn it he beat me, but i saw that too

i am still unwilling to change my vote. vigilante can shoot dracula if he really wants to, but DEATH TO SHERLOCK.

my bad, dracula = aghanim.

[FM Captain Obvious]

Something just popped into my head, why isn't Anubis dead yet if he is Doc?

[FM Anubis]

Something just popped into my head, why isn't Anubis dead yet if he is Doc?

mafia/sk/witch still hopes to catch me at one point and lynch me. don't be that person LOL

[FM King Arthur]

Well, tis certainly more quiet after last night's casualties.

So we hath something to talk about, I shalt ask all of thee the following question:

If thou wert a framer with no more information about other folk than thou hath now, who wouldst thou have framed last night and why?

I wouldst have framed Anubis, because he hath been claiming doctor since early on and nobody really doth believe him. He hath survived a long time and some folk have shown their distrust towards him for several days now, but chances for him to die at night are very small because the vigilante and sword owners wouldst not risk it and the evil murderers apparently hath no interest in killing him. All this wouldst make him a fairly likely target for the sheriff.

[FM Locutus]

Something just popped into my head, why isn't Anubis dead yet if he is Doc?

Because there are two doctors. And look at the mafia targets. Rubber Ducky, Yoda, Jack Sparrow, the other Jack,...yehat?
It's like they random org who to kill it seems. I think their strategy might be to just dwindle us down. The SK on the other hand seems to be more risky.
The kill on that Sheriff last night slipping between the two doctors..
That means the witch will either prevent any further investigations, or control the blacksmith and make himself a improvised vigilante. (hamburgler already said this, but i feel that some don't understand the gravity of the situation)
In any case, there's 5 scum left. 3 mafia, SK, witch. I still say Sherlock is mafia. If the sheriff comes forward and announces he found a someone then let's go with that. Otherwise Sherlock is our best bet.

[FM Locutus]

If thou wert a framer with no more information about other folk than thou hath now, who wouldst thou have framed last night and why?


Assuming I was framer and everyone else was town. Hmm...
I'd say a good frame target would be Sherlock, but then I would think either him or Hungry would be shot by a vigilante. So the sheriff probably wouldn't check him. So perhaps a town leader...I would say Jack Sparrow would've made a good frame target last night actually, but since they killed him. I'd go with King Arthur. A general town leader, some people have split views on you, it would be good to make sure that our leaders are actually town.

[FM Gimli]

FM Sherlock

[FM Sherlock]

And why you are going to lynch me now? Think youself why I was never shot by the vigilante during the night.

YES, that's why. No questions asked. Use your head.

[FM Wolverine]

And why you are going to lynch me now? Think youself why I was never shot by the vigilante during the night.

YES, that's why. No questions asked. Use your head.

You idiot. Now we have to lynch you.

[FM SpongeBob]

very well...he's had it coming for a long time now

FM Sherlock

[FM Anubis]

And why you are going to lynch me now? Think youself why I was never shot by the vigilante during the night.

YES, that's why. No questions asked. Use your head.

because you've been 99% confirmed scum from day 1. and you're still alive by sheer luck.

[FM Sherlock]

Sigh... We need to find the remaining scum and yet you are still focusing on me, I have no choice to to reveal myself.

I am the vigilante. Does that now makes any sense to you?

Now please find the witch/serial killer or we are screwed.

[FM Wolverine]

Sigh... We need to find the remaining scum and yet you are still focusing on me, I have no choice to to reveal myself.

I am the vigilante. Does that now makes any sense to you?

Now please find the witch/serial killer or we are screwed.

We know. You claimed it in your last post. And that is precisely why we must lynch you.

[Inspector Cluseau]

We know. You claimed it in your last post. And that is precisely why we must lynch you.

That, or find the Witch right now.

[FM Anubis]

FM Dracula

keeping my vote on this guy until someone CCs the vigilante.

[FM Anubis]

That, or find the Witch right now.

oh crud.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Hey guys, I'm back. Interesting that FM Hungry flipped citizen, because I thought he was sk that attacked Dracula N1 and King Arthur N3 based on:

Day 4, Hungry #15

I doubt he was using a phone since phones useally converts the first letter into a capital letter.

He started lurking after watson was lynched so Its possible that he could be the witch or serial killer. he might even be a mafia.

If we don't get any real clues today then i suggest that we lynch dracula. he has been extremely anti town the entire game, so he wont be missed.

-vote Fm Dracula

Day 4, Hungry #37

I think king arthur might be that town leader/scum that you guys talked about. He was acting townie enough to be attacked by the serial killer Night 3 and he Roleplays! and roleplayers are allways scums.
He also voted to lynch master chef (the escort).
-vote FM King Arthur

If sherlock claims vigilante, a claim which I highly doubt, the real vigilante can shoot him tonight. I think instead we could lynch King Arthur today because he is most likely mafia, and Hungry a perceptive citizen. All my notes on scum remaining hinged on Hungry being sk and Cookie Monster being mafia, so I need to do a bit of re-reading.

Also the blacksmith should seriously give guns to me or Hamburglar because Arthur is probably scum, and out of the people I consider to be town, I only trust Hamburglar or myself to have adequate scumdar to actually find and kill scum.

[FM Sherlock]

There is an alternative.

Instead of lynching we, try to find out the identity of witch/serial killer. Lynching me now will NOT help town in any way with current conditons, so that's why I had no choice but to reveal myself. So stop focusing on me now and try to find the actual scum who tried to push the lynch on me all that time. I suspect Gimli and Anubis.

We still had no words from Yosemite Sam, Hope that he had found one scum by now.

[FM Sherlock]

Anubis, you idiot, Dracula IS dead. Stop doing pointless things.

I'm not going to vote anyone yet until Yosemite Sam gives out some information.

[FM Wolverine]

That, or find the Witch right now.

That would be our only other option. However, unless Yosemite found the witch last night, we'll have to guess, which could result in the lynch of another townie, thus allowing the witch to become a second serial killer, which I don't think we can afford right now. My vote remains on Sherlock.

[FM Sherlock]

If you doubt that I am the vigilante, then explain why Bridge Keeper was shot on Night 3?

[FM Wolverine]

If you doubt that I am the vigilante, then explain why Bridge Keeper was shot on Night 3?

God you're thick. How many times must I say the same thing? I acknowledge that you are the vigilante.

And because you're the vigilante, we have to lynch you. Because otherwise you become the best christmas present ever for the witch. The only alternative is to find and lynch the witch today, but unless Yosemite found the witch last night, we've got roughly a 9% chance of guessing correctly, which means about a 90% chance that the witch will use you to kill us all.

[FM Sherlock]

I'll tell you one thing.

In my honest intentions, I wanted to shoot Anubis instead of Hungry. But because Jailor failed to do his job properly, I had no choice but to shoot Hungry.
It's not my fault. Blame Yayap for being a nazi and modkilling our jailor (who killed Pinkie Pie). Even Kermit refused himself to be modkilled.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

If you doubt that I am the vigilante, then explain why Bridge Keeper was shot on Night 3?

Why did you pick to shoot Bridge Keeper. Just wondering.

And what did you mean by:
Day 4, #185

And one more thing:
The black sheep beats down the wolves.

You try to find out what that means.

I guess after re-reading your posts, I guess I could buy that you're vigilante. Either that or you've been purposefully laying hints at it. I guess it's just a bit odd to me that someone of your skill level hasn't hit scum yet.

[FM Agahnim]

Interesting the people who think I am scum.
I guess its just not a game if I don't get suspected to be scum.

[FM Anubis]

Anubis, you idiot, Dracula IS dead. Stop doing pointless things.

I'm not going to vote anyone yet until Yosemite Sam gives out some information.

i'm sorry i'm derping. i meant Aghanim,

just offering this scenario of Sherlock, who realizes he's screwed, tries to get the real vigilante to counterclaim, so witch knows who to really control tonight. seems farfetched but i rest my case on Sherlock, unless town really decides to lynch the true vigi. which would be freakin sad.

and i liked what Michigan said, up to the part where he goes against King Arthur. and since when did you, Michigan, have such a pro town read of Hamburglar?

[FM Sherlock]

We all agreed to kill Hungry. And what? He flipped citizen.

Bridge Keepar voted me after Sam revealed himself, so I tought that he acted like a scum would do. I had a thought that he would turn out to be a citizen.

[FM Anubis]

I'll tell you one thing.

In my honest intentions, I wanted to shoot Anubis instead of Hungry. But because Jailor failed to do his job properly, I had no choice but to shoot Hungry.
It's not my fault. Blame Yayap for being a nazi and modkilling our jailor (who killed Pinkie Pie). Even Kermit refused himself to be modkilled.

so its thanks to the mod that i'm still participating in this FM. thanks mod

[FM Sherlock]

Now that I revealed myslef, it's not that difficult to find scum among those who pushed their lynch on me. Excluding Ceasar and Yosemite Sam. King Arthur is also town - why else he defended me last day?

[FM Agahnim]

If you pay attention:

Rubber Ducky,
Robin Hood,
Gimli,
Wile E Coyote (Iffy on scumminess tbh),
And Spongebob

All were at threat to be modkilled if they did not provide a summary of the game to the FMGM for penance of their lurking. They all did so.
If it were me facing the threat of modkilling and I was a role such as Citizen, <-- ooh. look at the "slip", I would allow myself to be killed to prove to the town that I am town aligned and spur the focus onto better scum targets.

Since none of them did that, and we have claims of Vigilante Sheriff and Blacksmith, they should each be citizens. But if they were citizens, and each of them scummy just so you know, they should have allowed their deaths (imo) to prove their townness.
I believe that a couple of the people in the list are scum.

[FM Agahnim]

What say the rest of you?

[FM Locutus]

I think I'm missing something.
Why do we need to lynch Sherlock because he's the vigilante?
I understand that the witch will control him, but then that frees up the Sheriff.

[FM Agahnim]

Town Reads:
01- FM Agahnim
03- FM Anubis
07- FM Ceasar
15- FM Hamburglar
21- FM King Arthur
26- FM Michigan J Frog
42- FM Yosemite Sam

Iffy reads:
33- FM Sherlock
22- FM King Tut
23- FM Locutus
18- FM Inspector Cluseau
06- FM Captain Obvious

Scum Reads:
14- FM Gimli
34- FM SpongeBob
35- FM The Joker
38- FM Wile E Coyote
32- FM Rubber Ducky
31- FM Robin Hood
39- FM Wolverine



29- FM Pinkie Pie: Mafioso - Executed by the Jailor
11- FM Dracula: Consigliere - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
37- FM Watson: Consort - Killed by the Town


36- FM The Terminator: Citizen - Killed by the SK
27- FM Mr Bunny: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
28- FM Mr T: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
30- FM Prince Thrakhath: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
19- FM Jack Sparrow: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
20- FM Kermit: Jailor - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
02- FM Animal Citizen - Killed by a gun man
04- FM Batman: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
05- FM Bridge Keeper: Citizen - Killed by the Vigilante
08- FM Col Jack ONeill: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
09- FM Cookie Monster: Citizen - Killed by a gun rocket man.
10- FM Count von Count: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
12- FM Frankenstein: Citizen - Killed by a gun man.
13- FM Gandalf: Citizen - Killed by an angry town mob.
16- FM Hungry: Citizen - Killed by the Vigilante
17- FM Indiana Jones: Sheriff - Killed by the SK
24- FM Lone Ranger: Citizen - Struck down by Sith Lightning!
25- FM Master Chef: Escort - Killed by the SK
40- FM Yehat: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
41- FM Yoda: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia

[FM Sherlock]

Everything was fine for me until Yayap did THAT. If town loses this game, it will be because of what Yayap did.

And Wolverine, by claiming myslef, I gave the town a choice. If I had not claimed myslef, you would had no choice but to lynch me instead of finding scum. Before there were 29 players alive I was fine with that, but with the current conditions we cannot allow ourselves a mislynch.

I wanted the jailor to actually jail me so that we can devise a plan, but Yayap crumpled my plans to dust. I even wanted to claim myself as jailor.

[FM Wolverine]

I think I'm missing something.
Why do we need to lynch Sherlock because he's the vigilante?
I understand that the witch will control him, but then that frees up the Sheriff.

Tonight: Witch vig onto sheriff. Tomorrow night and beyond: witch & vig bffs

[FM Agahnim]

Scum: 5
Mafioso
Godfather
Framer
Serial Killer
Witch

vs

Town: 14
Sheriff
Doctor
Doctor
Blacksmith
Vigilante
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citize




5 vs 14

If Vigilante suicides tonight + Scum Kills with no heals
5 vs 11

^
Acceptable loss.

I feel like the Vigilante should suicide

[FM Sherlock]

But we have two doctors alive, aren't we? Sheriff will still be fine. And we also have the Blacksmith. Witch won't try to control the Blacksmith, so he can give his gun to someone else.

Speaking of blacksmith... Ceasar, did you gave a gun last night? If your target received a gun, we can still have a chance to win this.

[FM Wolverine]

Everything was fine for me until Yayap did THAT. If town loses this game, it will be because of what Yayap did.

And Wolverine, by claiming myslef, I gave the town a choice. If I had not claimed myslef, you would had no choice but to lynch me instead of finding scum. Before there were 29 players alive I was fine with that, but with the current conditions we cannot allow ourselves a mislynch.

I wanted the jailor to actually jail me so that we can devise a plan, but Yayap crumpled my plans to dust. I even wanted to claim myself as jailor.

It's not yayap's fault Kermit didn't respond when faced with the threat of being mod-killed. And the mafia lost their consigliere, which I'd say is probably more valuable to them than Kermit was to us. And either way, it's not going to be reversed, so there's no use bitching about it.

[FM Anubis]

Tonight: Witch vig onto sheriff. Tomorrow night and beyond: witch & vig bffs

if we don't lynch vig, then witch makes vig target sheriff, mafia target sheriff, and SK target sheriff. goodbye afk yosemite. double docs can't heal stuff like that.

[FM Locutus]

Rubber Ducky and Robin Hood didn't even post yesterday...


Tonight: Witch vig onto sheriff. Tomorrow night and beyond: witch & vig bffs

Okay. But there are doctors, that SHOULD'VE been on the sheriffs. <_<

[FM Wolverine]

Scum: 5
Mafioso
Godfather
Framer
Serial Killer
Witch

vs

Town: 14
Sheriff
Doctor
Doctor
Blacksmith
Vigilante
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citize




5 vs 14

If Vigilante suicides tonight + Scum Kills with no heals
5 vs 11

^
Acceptable loss.

I feel like the Vigilante should suicide

I'm inclined to agree with you, but based on his replies, I doubt he will do so. And if he won't, then we really have no choice but to lynch.

[FM Agahnim]

Rubber Ducky and Robin Hood didn't even post yesterday...



Okay. But there are doctors, that SHOULD'VE been on the sheriffs. <_<

^
^
^
^
^
^


>>
<<
>>
<<






>.<

[FM Anubis]

Scum: 5
Mafioso
Godfather
Framer
Serial Killer
Witch

vs

Town: 14
Sheriff
Doctor
Doctor
Blacksmith
Vigilante
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citize




5 vs 14

If Vigilante suicides tonight + Scum Kills with no heals
5 vs 11

^
Acceptable loss.

I feel like the Vigilante should suicide

what if Sherlock modkills himself, forcing the mod to kill Sherlock, then we're up to 12. just throwing that out there as a last resort. (and i'm not buddying up with Aghanim, even though he did put me near the top of his town-read list)

[FM Anubis]

Rubber Ducky and Robin Hood didn't even post yesterday...



Okay. But there are doctors, that SHOULD'VE been on the sheriffs. <_<

i was on the wrong sheriff. i'm sorry =(

[FM Captain Obvious]

Scum: 5
Mafioso
Godfather
Framer
Serial Killer
Witch

vs

Town: 14
Sheriff
Doctor
Doctor
Blacksmith
Vigilante
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citize




5 vs 14

If Vigilante suicides tonight + Scum Kills with no heals
5 vs 11

^
Acceptable loss.

I feel like the Vigilante should suicide

That is if Sherlock is vigilante...
Can a vigilante shoot someone and suicide on the same night?

[FM Captain Obvious]

Woopsies forgot bold
Can a vigilante suicide and shoot someone on the same night?

[FM Sherlock]

if we don't lynch vig, then witch makes vig target sheriff, mafia target sheriff, and SK target sheriff. goodbye afk yosemite. double docs can't heal stuff like that.

That's only one kill in a single night. We'll have about 17 people left alive in that case.

[Inspector Cluseau]

Why is Cluseau always on the Iffy level. I am SO TOTALLY TOWN. I mean, I am not the Godfather at all. Facts.

[FM Agahnim]

what if Sherlock modkills himself, forcing the mod to kill Sherlock, then we're up to 12. just throwing that out there as a last resort. (and i'm not buddying up with Aghanim, even though he did put me near the top of his town-read list)

:|


Are you naturally retarded?

[FM Wolverine]

Okay. But there are doctors, that SHOULD'VE been on the sheriffs. <_<

Agreed. But they weren't. So now we have this mess.

We don't have to lynch Sherlock if he agrees to suicide. But that only benefits us if we can lynch scum in his place. So, for the sake of argument, if Sherlock were to suicide, who would we lynch in his stead?

[FM Locutus]

i was on the wrong sheriff. i'm sorry =(

You should be! You and the other doctor both should be sorry! *slap*


if we don't lynch vig, then witch makes vig target sheriff, mafia target sheriff, and SK target sheriff. goodbye afk yosemite. double docs can't heal stuff like that.
This was horrifically scummy to me. Makes me think you're a mafia/witch/sk trying to direct everyone at Yosemite tonight.
Don't do that.

[FM Agahnim]

Agreed. But they weren't. So now we have this mess.

We don't have to lynch Sherlock if he agrees to suicide. But that only benefits us if we can lynch scum in his place. So, for the sake of argument, if Sherlock were to suicide, who would we lynch in his stead?


Rubber Ducky
Robin Hood
Gimli
Spongebob
Maybe even Wile E.




I honestly think one of those people are scum!!@!#@!#!@#@!#!@$!%$#^@!%#&@@!%@$&$^*&(#&%$^%$*^&(%$@!@$!#@$%&*^&*(&^%$#@!~%&^%#^%#YT$#%$#&#%^&^Y%$^&

[FM Locutus]

Rubber Ducky
Robin Hood
Gimli
Spongebob
Maybe even Wile E.

I honestly think one of those people are scum!!@!#@!#!@#@!#!@$!%$#^@!%#&@@!%@$&$^*&(#&%$^%$*^&(%$@!@$!#@$%&*^&*(&^%$#@!~%&^%#^%#YT$#%$#&#%^&^Y%$^&

Why not all 5? GG we win. Lynch them all.

[FM Agahnim]

@Sherlock


If you are Vigilante you have to suicide if we do not lynch the witch.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

i'm sorry i'm derping. i meant Aghanim,

just offering this scenario of Sherlock, who realizes he's screwed, tries to get the real vigilante to counterclaim, so witch knows who to really control tonight. seems farfetched but i rest my case on Sherlock, unless town really decides to lynch the true vigi. which would be freakin sad.

and i liked what Michigan said, up to the part where he goes against King Arthur. and since when did you, Michigan, have such a pro town read of Hamburglar?

I think Hamburglar pre-day 4 when he was replaced was just a bad player. Hamburglar post day-4 replacement has been reading pretty pro-town to me. For example, most recently Day 5 #59 is such a huge towntell.

I seriously give up on this game, Sherlock not dead after clearly being scum on D2.
Also too many citizens acting too fucking scummy

Well prior to the Hungry and Cookie Monster flip, my guess at the scum team was:
Cookie Monster - Mafia
King Arthur - Mafia
Sherlock - Mafia
Hungry - sk
Agahnim - witch

based on daychat interactions/general scumminess. My scum read on King Arthur really only stems from my scum read on Sherlock. If Sherlock is indeed vigilante (which looks pretty likely) then my most pressing King Arthur scum argument is gone. I'm not ruling King Arthur out as scum yet though.

[Inspector Cluseau]

Why not all 5? GG we win. Lynch them all.

I actually have all 5 of theme on the upper end of my list. Doesn't seem to bad to me. I will jail them all tonight.

[FM Agahnim]

Agahnim - witch


No love.

[Inspector Cluseau]

Agahnim - witch


No love.

Shut up, Witch.

[FM Agahnim]

Shut up, Witch.

It insanely obvious what my role is.
I don't hide anything

[Inspector Cluseau]

It insanely obvious what my role is.
I don't hide anything

Agahnim, if I were to weight you next to a duck...

[FM Agahnim]

Agahnim, if I were to weight you next to a duck...

I would be among the crowd crying out for justice.

[Inspector Cluseau]

I would be among the crowd crying out for justice.

In the 'mob' of people, you say?

[FM Wolverine]

In the 'mob' of people, you say?

mob is another name for mafia. Agahnim is mafia! GASP!

[FM Agahnim]

In the 'mob' of people, you say?

Yes.
The collection of citizens shouting out the likelyhood that their captive is evil.

[FM Locutus]

I love waiting all day for our sheriff.

...36 hours later...

Yosemite Sam: Guise I was witched!

[Inspector Cluseau]

I love waiting all day for our sheriff.

...36 hours later...

Yosemite Sam: Guise I was witched!

Locutus is the Witch

[FM Locutus]

Locutus is the Witch

Don't jail me!

[FM Agahnim]

FM Rubber Ducky

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Rubber Ducky
Robin Hood
Gimli
Spongebob
Maybe even Wile E.




I honestly think one of those people are scum!!@!#@!#!@#@!#!@$!%$#^@!%#&@@!%@$&$^*&(#&%$^%$*^&(%$@!@$!#@$%&*^&*(&^%$#@!~%&^%#^%#YT$#%$#&#%^&^Y%$^&

lolwtf I just checked, and Rubber Ducky, Robin Hood, and Gimli haven't even posted in days. Too hard to find town or scum motivation in posts that don't exist!

[FM Wolverine]

Don't jail me!

Too late. He's already sent the "-jail everyone" PM. It's all over now.

[FM Agahnim]

lolwtf I just checked, and Rubber Ducky, Robin Hood, and Gimli haven't even posted in days. Too hard to find town or scum motivation in posts that don't exist!

:|


Have you read the same game I have?
Everyone but You, Hamburgler, Jack, and Cookie Monster have dropped both town tells and scum tells

[FM Agahnim]

What, wait wait wait.

You have to check to see if they have been active or not?

:|

[FM Agahnim]

Will someone explain why I am scummy?

Cause I honestly don't see it.

[FM Locutus]

I would totally be ok with lynching:
Rubber Ducky
Robin Hood
maybbbeee Gimli (he posted today though. I think he just voted and left, seriously he does that everyday)
King Tut (where did she go!!)

It irks me that King Tut didn't post once yesterday and yet did not receive a warning or anything.
But Kermit posted three times on day 4 and got modkilled. pfft. ok...
( don't modkill me please ._. )

[Inspector Cluseau]

Will someone explain why I am scummy?

Cause I honestly don't see it.

You defended the Consigliere. Saying he was a bad shot for the Vigilante.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

:|


Have you read the same game I have?
Everyone but You, Hamburgler, Jack, and Cookie Monster have dropped both town tells and scum tells

Nobody seems to understand that towntells and scumtells can only be towntells or scumtells if you find the town or scum motivation behind the actions. Like how Cookie Monster didn't understand how lurking isn't necessarily a scumtell since with this crowd there isn't obvious town or scum motivation behind it. Example: Kermit. Motivation behind players like Rubber Ducky, Robin Hood, and Gimli can just as easily be explained by lurking scum wanting to hide or lurking ragequitting citizens who just troll us.

Also, wtf your post doesn't even make sense. Pretty sure you said Jack was both dropping scum tells (consig slip) and town tells (you had him as a strong town read). Not 100% sure about the others, but I'm pretty sure you waffled on them as well.

[FM Agahnim]

Nobody seems to understand that towntells and scumtells can only be towntells or scumtells if you find the town or scum motivation behind the actions. Like how Cookie Monster didn't understand how lurking isn't necessarily a scumtell since with this crowd there isn't obvious town or scum motivation behind it. Example: Kermit. Motivation behind players like Rubber Ducky, Robin Hood, and Gimli can just as easily be explained by lurking scum wanting to hide or lurking ragequitting citizens who just troll us.

Also, wtf your post doesn't even make sense. Pretty sure you said Jack was both dropping scum tells (consig slip) and town tells (you had him as a strong town read). Not 100% sure about the others, but I'm pretty sure you waffled on them as well.

On day one I took a shot in the dark about connecting Jack to the scum role Consig (Which was obvious you utter moron. pay attention) and every day, every instance, after that I had him down as town. (PAY. ATTTENTION.)



@The part about Rubber Ducky and the rest possibly being Citizens who don't want to play the game or give a damn about playing even after they sign up to a game that actually takes some sense of dedication and focus to play and not something you can just lurk in and show no interest of which is actually an insult to the host of said game.

I answered that already.
Pay attention.

I said that they should have accepted the modkill as the way to prove their townness and help the town scum hunt more effectively.

[Inspector Cluseau]

Also, I just noticed- Host allowed for Citizens. Please uninstall. Fail save.

[FM Agahnim]

You defended the Consigliere. Saying he was a bad shot for the Vigilante.

He was
Vigilante should have SHOT THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SEEM TO HAVE A SINGLE CARE IN THE WORLD ABOUT THIS GAME

EX: Rubber Ducky, Robin Hood, Gimli

Much better Jail choice on him, Dracula, imo.

[FM Agahnim]

Nobody seems to understand that towntells and scumtells can only be towntells or scumtells if you find the town or scum motivation behind the actions. Like how Cookie Monster didn't understand how lurking isn't necessarily a scumtell since with this crowd there isn't obvious town or scum motivation behind it. Example: Kermit. Motivation behind players like Rubber Ducky, Robin Hood, and Gimli can just as easily be explained by lurking scum wanting to hide or lurking ragequitting citizens who just troll us

Please, regale me further about how pro you are and how much of a newb I am.

[FM Locutus]

On day one I took a shot in the dark about connecting Jack to the scum role Consig (Which was obvious you utter moron. pay attention) and every day, every instance, after that I had him down as town. (PAY. ATTTENTION.)



@The part about Rubber Ducky and the rest possibly being Citizens who don't want to play the game or give a damn about playing even after they sign up to a game that actually takes some sense of dedication and focus to play and not something you can just lurk in and show no interest of which is actually an insult to the host of said game.

I answered that already.
Pay attention.

I said that they should have accepted the modkill as the way to prove their townness and help the town scum hunt more effectively.

Ok, I kind of agree with this part. Rubber Ducky and Robin Hood and Gimli all had to take time to PM the GameMaster and tell then that they were still playing so they wouldn't get modkilled.
So far, Gimli has posted. But I don't foresee the other two posting, unless maybe we put pressure on them?
If they were citizens who didn't care they should've taken the modkill so we could scumhunt better, instead of having random lurkers that we can't read because they won't post.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

On day one I took a shot in the dark about connecting Jack to the scum role Consig (Which was obvious you utter moron. pay attention) and every day, every instance, after that I had him down as town. (PAY. ATTTENTION.)



@The part about Rubber Ducky and the rest possibly being Citizens who don't want to play the game or give a damn about playing even after they sign up to a game that actually takes some sense of dedication and focus to play and not something you can just lurk in and show no interest of which is actually an insult to the host of said game.

I answered that already.
Pay attention.

I said that they should have accepted the modkill as the way to prove their townness and help the town scum hunt more effectively.

The only person who isn't paying attention here is you. Mostly because your imprecise language is ineffective at best. I find your ad-hominem insults to be scum motivated since I guess it's easier to attack my credibility than to respond to the holes I pointed out in your assertions. It's a common scum tactic. Scum motivation of averting attacks on yourself. I don't really find many connections between you and other people but I guess you must be sk or witch. Also, if you were town, you would be more suspicious of people like Jack Sparrow and myself instead of trying so hard to buddy with us.

FM Agahnim

[FM Agahnim]

Ok, I kind of agree with this part. Rubber Ducky and Robin Hood and Gimli all had to take time to PM the GameMaster and tell then that they were still playing so they wouldn't get modkilled.
So far, Gimli has posted. But I don't foresee the other two posting, unless maybe we put pressure on them?
If they were citizens who didn't care they should've taken the modkill so we could scumhunt better, instead of having random lurkers that we can't read because they won't post.

No. No. No.

They had to provide to him a summary of the game, if I read his post correctly. I think I did but I no sure of myself cause I so durn scummy

[FM Ceasar]

I'm online briefly

@Agahnim: Look deep into the caesar salad which is my avatar, and tell me if you are surprised that I am prosecuting you.

[FM Agahnim]

The only person who isn't paying attention here is you. Mostly because your imprecise language is ineffective at best. I find your ad-hominem insults to be scum motivated since I guess it's easier to attack my credibility than to respond to the holes I pointed out in your assertions. It's a common scum tactic. Scum motivation of averting attacks on yourself. I don't really find many connections between you and other people but I guess you must be sk or witch. Also, if you were town, you would be more suspicious of people like Jack Sparrow and myself instead of trying so hard to buddy with us.

FM Agahnim

You need to rethink your term of budding.

Why should I be supicious of you when most of your posts, of which i remember off the top of my head :p, have been pro-town and anti-scum.
Jack was town because of meta. <------- and was obviously town after day one :p


Did you forget my active scum hunting and leads I tried to bring to town attention

AND THE FACT THAT I OPENED AND PUSHED THE LYNCH AGAINST PINKIE PIE
(admittedly later on into the day I submitted and slotted pinkie pie town. I was tired lol :p)

[FM Locutus]

Posts by Rubber Ducky:
Day 1: 7
Day 2: 1
Day 3: 3
Day 4: 0
Day 5: 0~

If this guy turns out to be scum I'll be pretty upset. In a game with this many citizens it's unfair to use one of our PR's night actions to investigate this guy solely because he lurks. This game is supposed to be controlled by scumtells and slips, voting patterns and such.

[FM Agahnim]

I'm online briefly

@Agahnim: Look deep into the caesar salad which is my avatar, and tell me if you are surprised that I am prosecuting you.

Eh.

I don't really have a lot to present as evidence to my townness expect for the shot I took at Frankenstien (who was scummy), my attempts to lead town into better scum hunting targets, on days that Sheriff had no leads, and my opening onto the Pinkie Pie train, who flipped mafia.
My suggestion to the Vigilante to suicide is pro-town as well :p.

[FM Ceasar]

Eh.

I don't really have a lot to present as evidence to my townness expect for the shot I took at Frankenstien (who was scummy), my attempts to lead town into better scum hunting targets, on days that Sheriff had no leads, and my opening onto the Pinkie Pie train, who flipped mafia.
My suggestion to the Vigilante to suicide is pro-town as well :p.

I'm looking more for a yes or no answer

[FM Agahnim]

Oh. Hey Caesar and Frog,

Go look at all, and I mean all, of my posts please and then come back and explain my scumminess.


I want a fully drawn out reasoning on why you both find me scummy and what team you think I am on.
I will not respond to nonsense and half wit trys against my alignment. Mostly because I know you both are intelligent thinkers who are town aligned and, as I am, frustrated with this towns moronicness and are frustrated by the lurking happening in this game.

[FM Agahnim]

I'm looking more for a yes or no answer

Do I look like I care about your avatar?

[FM Michigan J Frog]

You need to rethink your term of budding.

Why should I be supicious of you when most of your posts, of which i remember off the top of my head :p, have been pro-town and anti-scum.
Jack was town because of meta. <------- and was obviously town after day one :p


Did you forget my active scum hunting and leads I tried to bring to town attention

AND THE FACT THAT I OPENED AND PUSHED THE LYNCH AGAINST PINKIE PIE
(admittedly later on into the day I submitted and slotted pinkie pie town. I was tired lol :p)

Pushing the lynch against Pinkie Pie means nothing. You could be witch who controlled the mafioso N1 and knew he was scum. You could be sk who hit Pinkie Pie at night. You could be mafia looking to bus a pal for town credibility. You say Jack was town because of meta? Well imo you're scum because of meta. Honestly if we don't lynch this guy today, town deserves to lose for our apathy and just simply being outplayed.

[FM Locutus]

Why is there a vote on dracula

[FM Ceasar]

Do I look like I care about your avatar?

I enjoy how you completely avoid answering questions yet still plead how pro-town you are.

[FM Agahnim]

Pushing the lynch against Pinkie Pie means nothing. You could be witch who controlled the mafioso N1 and knew he was scum. You could be sk who hit Pinkie Pie at night. You could be mafia looking to bus a pal for town credibility. You say Jack was town because of meta? Well imo you're scum because of meta. Honestly if we don't lynch this guy today, town deserves to lose for our apathy and just simply being outplayed.

Translation:
Just because you push a lynch against scum, in a game where all scum win together, does not mean you are not scum. Just because you drop the mafia power by one, out of 5, and significantly hurt their voting power doesn't mean you are town.
Oh btw. I think you are scum because I know your COM and you are not playing as per your usual play.

Brilliant. Just brilliant.


Perfect sense really.

[FM Wile E Coyote]

Heyo.

@Agahnim: If I'd had the chance to do it, then I would've let myself get killed. I was not in the list of those that had to write a resume; I had already advised the FMGM that I'd be really busy during the holidays.

I am, quite obviously, nothing more than a citizen. If the town believes my death would benefit the town more than me being alive, due to me being lurkish and people not having a decent read on me, I will suicide (If it is allowed in this setup, of course.)

[FM Agahnim]

I enjoy how you completely avoid answering questions yet still plead how pro-town you are.

I do not understand your question tbh.

[FM Agahnim]

Heyo.

@Agahnim: If I'd had the chance to do it, then I would've let myself get killed. I was not in the list of those that had to write a resume; I had already advised the FMGM that I'd be really busy during the holidays.

I am, quite obviously, nothing more than a citizen. If the town believes my death would benefit the town more than me being alive, due to me being lurkish and people not having a decent read on me, I will suicide (If it is allowed in this setup, of course.)

If I don't get lynched today, and if enough people think I am scummy, I will suicide as well.
Nothing I say here will convince the town that I am on their side except by death. So... yeah ^.^

[FM Locutus]

I do not understand your question tbh.

Are you surprised that Caesar is voting you?

[FM Agahnim]

Are you surprised that Caesar is voting you?

But what does his avatar have to do with his vote on me. -_-
Stupid question is dumb.


From his perspective I shouldn't be surprised I guess. Apparently I'm scummy somehow.

From mine I am surprised. Why give me a gun, which I use to shoot a scummy target, just to overthink it and suspect me scummy later.

-_-

[FM Ceasar]

Are you surprised that Caesar is voting you?

Technically I'm not voting him, but still the same sentiment

[Inspector Cluseau]

If I don't get lynched today, and if enough people think I am scummy, I will suicide as well.
Nothing I say here will convince the town that I am on their side except by death. So... yeah ^.^

I, three, will suicide.

Let's all do it.

[FM Agahnim]

Oh. Hey Caesar and Frog,

Go look at all, and I mean all, of my posts please and then come back and explain my scumminess.


I want a fully drawn out reasoning on why you both find me scummy and what team you think I am on.
I will not respond to nonsense and half wit trys against my alignment. Mostly because I know you both are intelligent thinkers who are town aligned and, as I am, frustrated with this towns moronicness and are frustrated by the lurking happening in this game.

^^

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Translation:
Just because you push a lynch against scum, in a game where all scum win together, does not mean you are not scum. Just because you drop the mafia power by one, out of 5, and significantly hurt their voting power doesn't mean you are town.
Oh btw. I think you are scum because I know your COM and you are not playing as per your usual play.

Brilliant. Just brilliant.


Perfect sense really.

The biggest threat imo is scum slipping through as "confirmed town." So I don't see why scum Agahnim wouldn't want to gain town points by outing another scum. Voting power << town credibility.

And lol that backtracking. Calling me town in #168 and then switching to a scum read in #173. I wonder how you changed your mind so drastically in just 5 posts!! It's amazing!

[FM Wolverine]

I, three, will suicide.

Let's all do it.

Suicide Pact seems like a winning plan. All town should suicide so that town will know they're town. That makes sense...

[FM Agahnim]

The biggest threat imo is scum slipping through as "confirmed town." So I don't see why scum Agahnim wouldn't want to gain town points by outing another scum. Voting power << town credibility.

And lol that backtracking. Calling me town in #168 and then switching to a scum read in #173. I wonder how you changed your mind so drastically in just 5 posts!! It's amazing!


#168 and #173 in which day?

This day?
I have not backtracked nor changed opinions at all.
I fully believe you are town. So where you get me calling you scum I dun get at all.

[FM Agahnim]

The biggest threat imo is scum slipping through as "confirmed town." So I don't see why scum Agahnim wouldn't want to gain town points by outing another scum. Voting power << town credibility.

And lol that backtracking. Calling me town in #168 and then switching to a scum read in #173. I wonder how you changed your mind so drastically in just 5 posts!! It's amazing!

Mafia, in this game, need their members to survive and win in this game.
With the opposition they face in this game (day 5 and there are 14 town members alive. 14. 14. 14.14.14.14.14.14.14.14.14 holy shit!) they need to survive with most of their members as long as possible and lynching/killing one of their own so quick, day 3, after already losing one to lynching day 1 is one of the most ridiculous plans I have ever heard.

[FM Wile E Coyote]

Suicide Pact seems like a winning plan. All town should suicide so that town will know they're town. That makes sense...

My post was mostly targeting myself and the four others mentioned earlier; Aka Rubber Ducky, Gimli, Robin Hood and Spongebob (?).

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Oh. Hey Caesar and Frog,

Go look at all, and I mean all, of my posts please and then come back and explain my scumminess.


I want a fully drawn out reasoning on why you both find me scummy and what team you think I am on.
I will not respond to nonsense and half wit trys against my alignment. Mostly because I know you both are intelligent thinkers who are town aligned and, as I am, frustrated with this towns moronicness and are frustrated by the lurking happening in this game.


Translation:
Just because you push a lynch against scum, in a game where all scum win together, does not mean you are not scum. Just because you drop the mafia power by one, out of 5, and significantly hurt their voting power doesn't mean you are town.
Oh btw. I think you are scum because I know your COM and you are not playing as per your usual play.

Brilliant. Just brilliant.


Perfect sense really.


#168 and #173 in which day?

This day?
I have not backtracked nor changed opinions at all.
I fully believe you are town. So where you get me calling you scum I dun get at all.

Posts colored for emphasis.

[FM Agahnim]

My post was mostly targeting myself and the four others mentioned earlier; Aka Rubber Ducky, Gimli, Robin Hood and Spongebob (?).

This.

However I said if enough people suspect that I am scum I will suicide to prove otherwise. (AKA liek 10 ppl think im scum = me suicide)

[FM Ceasar]

He was
Vigilante should have SHOT THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SEEM TO HAVE A SINGLE CARE IN THE WORLD ABOUT THIS GAME

EX: Rubber Ducky, Robin Hood, Gimli

Much better Jail choice on him, Dracula, imo.

Hood was extremely active in the early game, then his post count completely plummeted.

Dracula has been a lurker all game, contributing very little.

How was Dracula caring more about the game then Hood?

[FM Agahnim]

Posts colored for emphasis.

That "I call you scum cause of COM meta" was directed at this:


Well imo you're scum because of meta.

I translated it. seriously bro. PAY ATTENTION!!@#!#!@#@!#@!#@!#@!#@!#!@$#@%$#&%$^$@$

[FM Agahnim]

Hood was extremely active in the early game, then his post count completely plummeted.

Dracula has been a lurker all game, contributing very little.

How was Dracula caring more about the game then Hood?
Dracula had posted roughly every day and was apart of lynch trains roughly every day.
Hood wasn't.

[FM Ceasar]

Btw, I extremely doubt that Yayap will allow suiciding. The only reason there is a -suicide command in SC2 Mafia is because DR is a troll.

[FM Wolverine]

My post was mostly targeting myself and the four others mentioned earlier; Aka Rubber Ducky, Gimli, Robin Hood and Spongebob (?).

Yeah I know, but then Agahnim and Cluseau chimed in, and it was beginning to look like suicide was becoming a thing, so I attempted to stop it by pointing out how utterly ridiculous it is.

[FM Agahnim]

Yeah I know, but then Agahnim and Cluseau chimed in, and it was beginning to look like suicide was becoming a thing, so I attempted to stop it by pointing out how utterly ridiculous it is.

Pay attention to what I posted regarding suiciding.
Please. Before you look as dumb as Frog in his attempt to claim that I called him scum

[FM Michigan J Frog]

#168 and #173 in which day?

This day?
I have not backtracked nor changed opinions at all.
I fully believe you are town. So where you get me calling you scum I dun get at all.


That "I call you scum cause of COM meta" was directed at this:



I translated it. seriously bro. PAY ATTENTION!!@#!#!@#@!#@!#@!#@!#@!#!@$#@%$#&%$^$@$

Lol this is about as obvious a contradiction there could ever be!!


#168 and #173 in which day?

This day?
I have not backtracked nor changed opinions at all.
I fully believe you are town. So where you get me calling you scum I dun get at all.


"I call you scum cause of COM meta"

[FM Locutus]

Agahnim is getting mad.

FM Agahnim

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[FM Ceasar]

Dracula had posted roughly every day and was apart of lynch trains roughly every day.
Hood wasn't.

Dude, Dracula voted exactly once the entire game. The reason I tried to start a waggon against him was because he was refusing to join the Gandalf train for unknown reasons.

[FM Wile E Coyote]

Btw, I extremely doubt that Yayap will allow suiciding. The only reason there is a -suicide command in SC2 Mafia is because DR is a troll.

Better ask, then.

Are we allowed to -suicide?
If so, do we have to post it in day chat or send it to you as a night action?

Saying it right now; I wouldn't be suiciding for now. I think it should be discussed further and that we should get the insight of the other four. In my opinion, If they are entirely against it, there's probably a problem.

[FM Agahnim]

Dude, Dracula voted exactly once the entire game. The reason I tried to start a waggon against him was because he was refusing to join the Gandalf train for unknown reasons.

If you say so.

@Frog.

You are the really dumb this day. Really dumb.

You said that you think I am scum because of meta.

I said, in your viewpoint, "I know your COM. You are scum"

IN YOUR VIEWPOINT.

YOUR VIEWPOINT.

VIEWPOINT. YOURS.

YOUR VIEWPOINT.

[FM Agahnim]

Need 5 more people to thin I am scum to get me to suicide.

[FM Ceasar]

If you say so.


Okay

...

In my opinion, Dracula only voted once all game?

[FM Agahnim]

Okay

...

In my opinion, Dracula only voted once all game?

From my memory I remember Dracula fail voting every day.

...

Maybe that was Count von Count. If so then I am wrong and you are right :p

[FM Locutus]

Okay

...

In my opinion, Dracula only voted once all game?

Yes. That's what I got out of it.

[FM Wolverine]

Pay attention to what I posted regarding suiciding.
Please. Before you look as dumb as Frog in his attempt to claim that I called him scum

I know what you intend to accomplish via suicide. My point was mostly directed at Cluseau, though I'm sure he was probably trolling. If too many people suicide for "the good of the town" there will be no town left. Case and point, if you (Agahnim), Sherlock, Wile E, and Clusea all suicide and flip town, taking into account at least one scum kill, that would leave us with 9 town and 5 scum, which would mean an almost certain victory for scum.

[FM Agahnim]

I know what you intend to accomplish via suicide. My point was mostly directed at Cluseau, though I'm sure he was probably trolling. If too many people suicide for "the good of the town" there will be no town left. Case and point, if you (Agahnim), Sherlock, Wile E, and Clusea all suicide and flip town, taking into account at least one scum kill, that would leave us with 9 town and 5 scum, which would mean an almost certain victory for scum.


Sherlock and myself should be the only people to suicide tonight. (And only me if 5 more ppl think im scum)

[FM Agahnim]

Town Reads:
01- FM Agahnim - This is me. DUH!

03- FM Anubis - Claims Doctor. <-- Very bad bad bad and dumb scum claim to claim so early.

07- FM Ceasar - Strong town play. Good logic. Fair presentation of reads.

15- FM Hamburglar -Good logic. Fair presentation of reads.

21- FM King Arthur - Strong opinions and active poster. Uses good logic.

26- FM Michigan J Frog - Strong opinions and active poster. Strong town play. Good logic. Fair presentation of reads.

42- FM Yosemite Sam - Obvious.

33- FM Sherlock - Claimed Vigilante. Bad dumb idiot scum claim.

18- FM Inspector Cluseau - Excessive trolling/wild claiming. Bad scum play and fair amount of logicish ness.



I have no clue:
22- FM King Tut - Lurking
23- FM Locutus - Does not stand out in either way. Could be a citizen just as easily as scum.
38- FM Wile E Coyote - This guy stands out as towny to me but I cannot be sure.
06- FM Captain Obvious - Does not stand out in either way. Could be a citizen just as easily as scum.

Scum Reads: Mostly lurking and uselessness/sheeping/no or bad logic.
14- FM Gimli
34- FM SpongeBob
35- FM The Joker
32- FM Rubber Ducky
31- FM Robin Hood
39- FM Wolverine

[FM Wile E Coyote]

.

You know, to me, this just looks like a post count list.
Though I cannot pinpoint who, I'm sure there's a bunch of scums in the top list.

[Inspector Cluseau]

18- FM Inspector Cluseau - Excessive trolling/wild claiming. Bad scum play and fair amount of logicish ness

Guys.... I made a Town read....

[FM Agahnim]

You know, to me, this just looks like a post count list.
Though I cannot pinpoint who, I'm sure there's a bunch of scums in the top list.

You know, to me, this just looks like a post count list.

[Inspector Cluseau]

You know, to me, this just looks like a post count list.

It is pretty widely accepted that post counts do not dictate scum in this game. But hey, what do I know.

[FM Ceasar]

While the GM’s mod-killing spree had caused us to lose many citizens and our jailor, one good thing came out of it. Dracula flipped Consigliere. Let’s revisit the case against him.

D3

At the beginning of D3, I had a theory on finding scum based on the D2 votes. This was my theory…

This is unfortunately a realy busy day for me, so I don't have much time to read through. However, please remember to look back over previous days, day 2 in particular. When Indiana recieved the Mafia on Gandalf, the Mafia knew that Gandalf was framed. While you would expect that in this senario, the Mafia would heavily support the lynch, previous FMs have often wielded a different reaction in my experience. Seeing how Mafia knows that the framed person is almost guaranteed to get lynched, they actualy often mildly DEFEND the framed person so that they can cash in the town points when the framed person flips town. May want to look through that.

Just something to think about. I'll be back on later.

Later that day, I read through the D2 thread again, and found exactly what I was looking for…


Wow 2 pressured people already. Sorry I'm late, my grandma made a surprise visit today from texas. Anyways, my fail vote was truly a fail vote. I was banned for a whole and when I came back there was this new vote tag system. I apologize for my ignorance. I did eventually correct my mistake did I not? On with my thoughts so far.

Gandalf was probably framed if indiana jones is truly a sheriff. I'm not too eager to jump on that

Dracula defends Gandalf by saying he was probably framed, but gives absolutely ZERO evidence as to why he thinks that is. Either Dracula had the sixth sense or he is mafia who knew that Gandalf was framed. I comment…


^Post#96 D2
Back to my earlier theory that scum might very well have been the ones who try to defend Gandalf without much basis in order to cash in the town points when Gandalf flips town. Dracula contributed very little D1, and mentioned nothing on his reads of Gandalf. Yet, here he is, out of the blue claiming that Gandalf is probably framed, never going into detail as to why that is.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Connect the dots. Most of us didn't think that much of Gandalf being framed, yet here is Dracuala, figuring out the puzzle without any explanation. This deserves pressure.
-vote FM Dracula


Unfortunately, everyone completely ignores my lead. Well, except for one person (this is where you enter Agahnim)…


You are degrading imo mate.

Kool. I come up with a pretty strong lead, yet Agahnim attempts to discredit it without giving any reasoning. While at very least he commented (which is more than anyone else did), this post pushed Agahnim from the yellow zone to the orange zone for discrediting a potential lead without any reason. Agahnim had already fallen from the green zone when he didn’t claim after shooting a townie (Same sort of situation when an Escort RBs on a night with a missing kill. If you don’t claim, you risk the PR claiming, which could lead to a disaster. However, dismissed it as dumb play on D3).

D4

Seeing how my D3 lead had met such poor results, I decided not to pursue it again D4. However, I was still intrigued when Agahnim completely left Dracula off of his Vigilante list.


Why are these people not shot by Vigilante.

06- FM Captain Obvious
14- FM Gimli
22- FM King Tut
30- FM Prince Thrakhath
32- FM Rubber Ducky
34- FM SpongeBob
35- FM The Joker
39- FM Wolverine
15- FM Hamburglar




@Arthur

I specifically said that to tell everyone that Pinkie should be jailed.
And Vigilante PICK A DIFFERENT TARGET THEN PINKIE PIE.



My god.

Where is CmG when you need him

I am interested why Dracula is left out of the list, so I ask…


Why do you not find Dracula scummy?
To which Agahnim replies…

Who says I don't?
The people I listed are more useful kills

???
Gimili, SpongeBob and Joker have all had their scummy moments, but they are also lurkers of a similar caliber to Dracula who have been no more scummy. Also, big thing. Notice how to start off with Agahnim tries to defend his reason for not putting Dracula on the list. I ask for clarification…


I'll give your answer a 2/10. How is Dracula's death less useful then killing a different lurker?

To this, Agahnim replies…


I don't know.
I copy pasted my previous list of possible scum.
I tried scum hunting the previous three days to no avail as I got ignored by everyone.
I'm taking the route of CmG from the previous MFM

Again, kool. Joker, Gimili and SpongeBob are all lurkers. When asked why Dracula wasn’t on his Vigilante list, he says his death wouldn’t be as useful. When asked why that is, seeing how there are 3 other lurkers on the Vigilante List, he say he does not know. Horrible, half-hearted attempt to reason why Dracula was omitted.

And finally, the last piece of the puzzle…


25-Consigliere: FM Dracula - Struck down by Sith Lightning!

All the previous stuff had caused Agahnim to be tied to Dracula. Dracula flips scum. Therefore, Agahnim’s scum meter skyrockets.

@Agahnim: If you are smart, you really shouldn’t be at all surprised by this turn of events.

FM Agahnim



Now, time to adress Sherlock.

There is a huge difference between a Sheriff or a Blacksmith claiming then a Vigilante claim. While a Witch could mess with our actions, it does not benefit scum in some huge way. Vigilante is a completely different matter. With unlimited bullets, if a Vigilante gets Witched, the KPN for scum turns from 2 to 3, and our KPN turns from 2 to 1. Huge number difference.

While FM is a recreational game we play and it's all a learning experience, that was a really, really stupid claim. If you had have continued to defend yourself without claiming, there is a reasonable chance that Agahnim would have been lynched instead. There was a reason why I was telling everyone to be patient. However, now that you have claimed, we cannot afford to give scum the 3rd kill. Therefore, the votes against Agahnim are no more than pressure, and you have pretty much sealed your doom.

Think of it as Scorched Earth. We are killing you to prevent you from falling into enemy hands.

[FM Wile E Coyote]

Sun is rising, time to go to bed.
I have a lot of rereading to do, I'll be back ASAP.

[FM Agahnim]

@Caesar

Thank you for finding a good reason for why I am scummy.
I am going to respond soon, let me just find where I said you are degrading imo mate.

[FM Locutus]

While the GM’s mod-killing spree had caused us to lose many citizens and our jailor, one good thing came out of it. Dracula flipped Consigliere. Let’s revisit the case against him.

D3

At the beginning of D3, I had a theory on finding scum based on the D2 votes. This was my theory…


Later that day, I read through the D2 thread again, and found exactly what I was looking for…



Dracula defends Gandalf by saying he was probably framed, but gives absolutely ZERO evidence as to why he thinks that is. Either Dracula had the sixth sense or he is mafia who knew that Gandalf was framed. I comment…



Unfortunately, everyone completely ignores my lead. Well, except for one person (this is where you enter Agahnim)…



Kool. I come up with a pretty strong lead, yet Agahnim attempts to discredit it without giving any reasoning. While at very least he commented (which is more than anyone else did), this post pushed Agahnim from the yellow zone to the orange zone for discrediting a potential lead without any reason. Agahnim had already fallen from the green zone when he didn’t claim after shooting a townie (Same sort of situation when an Escort RBs on a night with a missing kill. If you don’t claim, you risk the PR claiming, which could lead to a disaster. However, dismissed it as dumb play on D3).

D4

Seeing how my D3 lead had met such poor results, I decided not to pursue it again D4. However, I was still intrigued when Agahnim completely left Dracula off of his Vigilante list.



I am interested why Dracula is left out of the list, so I ask…


To which Agahnim replies…


???
Gimili, SpongeBob and Joker have all had their scummy moments, but they are also lurkers of a similar caliber to Dracula who have been no more scummy. Also, big thing. Notice how to start off with Agahnim tries to defend his reason for not putting Dracula on the list. I ask for clarification…



To this, Agahnim replies…



Again, kool. Joker, Gimili and SpongeBob are all lurkers. When asked why Dracula wasn’t on his Vigilante list, he says his death wouldn’t be as useful. When asked why that is, seeing how there are 3 other lurkers on the Vigilante List, he say he does not know. Horrible, half-hearted attempt to reason why Dracula was omitted.

And finally, the last piece of the puzzle…



All the previous stuff had caused Agahnim to be tied to Dracula. Dracula flips scum. Therefore, Agahnim’s scum meter skyrockets.

@Agahnim: If you are smart, you really shouldn’t be at all surprised by this turn of events.

FM Agahnim



Now, time to adress Sherlock.

There is a huge difference between a Sheriff or a Blacksmith claiming then a Vigilante claim. While a Witch could mess with our actions, it does not benefit scum in some huge way. Vigilante is a completely different matter. With unlimited bullets, if a Vigilante gets Witched, the KPN for scum turns from 2 to 3, and our KPN turns from 2 to 1. Huge number difference.

While FM is a recreational game we play and it's all a learning experience, that was a really, really stupid claim. If you had have continued to defend yourself without claiming, there is a reasonable chance that Agahnim would have been lynched instead. There was a reason why I was telling everyone to be patient. However, now that you have claimed, we cannot afford to give scum the 3rd kill. Therefore, the votes against Agahnim are no more than pressure, and you have pretty much sealed your doom.

Think of it as Scorched Earth. We are killing you to prevent you from falling into enemy hands.

That was a good read and a well thought out argument.
However, that now connects Agahnim to the mafia.

SK>Witch>Vigilante>Mafia
This should be our lynch priority for today.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Anaylsis of Master Chef posts:

Master Chef, Day 2 #317:

im not taking notes cuz my dog ate my notes but i think sk found a mafia member on n1 and now they both know eachother. every1 keep ur eyes peeled 4 secr3t codes or somethin
-> didn't block anyone N1

Master Chef, Day 3 #5

okay apparently the SK didn't kill. maybe he found mafia last night? also some1 used blacksmith gun
-> didn't block anyone N3

Master Chef, Day 3 #19

i agree tht they are all scummy as fuck. i think spongebob could be a reserved citizen that is juts too lazy 2 keep up with us. it happens lots of times, but thats just my gut feeling
-> blocked spongebob N2?

This is kinda what I get from Master Chef's post analysis.

[FM Agahnim]

@Ceasar

The quote the sparks my scumminess
"You are degrading imo mate"
Was not directed at you and instead was directed at Frog who was posting thoughts about Yoda, it was a late reply due to me not seeing it earlier. Hindsight says I should have quoted it.


As for the rest of it I had thought that Dracula was posting enough to war rent jailing, as he could have been a doctor or escort or blacksmith, over vigilante shooting. (Reasoning is Jailing can provide more insight into the claims, if the jailor was anyone other than who he was{Not knowing who he was in that time frame}).

^
Not enough to clear me of scummyness I know, but its what I got.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

That was a good read and a well thought out argument.
However, that now connects Agahnim to the mafia.

SK>Witch>Vigilante>Mafia
This should be our lynch priority for today.

This is an odd comment. I think lynching scum is better than lynching our vigilante.

Even if the vigilante is witched to kill a townie, that means the other PR's can work un-hindered by the witch. Also scum lynch + vig kills random townie b/c witched > vig lynch because it nets us a loss of 1 scum by lynching scum.

[FM Agahnim]

This is an odd comment. I think lynching scum is better than lynching our vigilante.

Even if the vigilante is witched to kill a townie, that means the other PR's can work un-hindered by the witch. Also scum lynch + vig kills random townie b/c witched > vig lynch because it nets us a loss of 1 scum by lynching scum.

Witch will directed the Vigilante to shoot Sheriff. <-- If scum were smart. It will not be so random.

[FM Agahnim]

What I gather is that 3 people think I am scummy.
Frog, Caesar, Loctus(?)
Did I miss anyone?

[FM Agahnim]

Well I am headed to bed unless someone has any questions for me. (Im in the mood to analyze :p)

[FM Agahnim]

That was a good read and a well thought out argument.
However, that now connects Agahnim to the mafia.

SK>Witch>Vigilante>Mafia
This should be our lynch priority for today.


GUYS I FOUND SCUM!

GUYS!
GUYS!
LOOK LOOK!
SCUM!

[FM Locutus]

This is an odd comment. I think lynching scum is better than lynching our vigilante.

Even if the vigilante is witched to kill a townie, that means the other PR's can work un-hindered by the witch. Also scum lynch + vig kills random townie b/c witched > vig lynch because it nets us a loss of 1 scum by lynching scum.

But then scum gain 1 KPN. Yes the sheriff can work unhindered at the expense of the witch decimating our numbers.
It depends on Yayap's answer to vigilantes suicide IMO.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Witch will directed the Vigilante to shoot Sheriff. <-- If scum were smart. It will not be so random.

Why not Anubis the doctor or Ceasar the blacksmith? Seems like you're just using this opportunity to direct scum.

[FM Agahnim]

Why not Anubis the doctor or Ceasar the blacksmith? Seems like you're just using this opportunity to direct scum.

Well I was actually trying to direct scum to shoot the sheriff, who should have both doctors on :p, and as such fail in their efforts to kill him.
On a different note:
Both of those players could just be citizens trying to die to save PR's.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Well I am headed to bed unless someone has any questions for me. (Im in the mood to analyze :p)

Don't worry, I will have some questions for you later. I just had some other stuff to analyze first.

[FM Locutus]

Well I was actually trying to direct scum to shoot the sheriff, who should have both doctors on :p, and as such fail in their efforts to kill him.
On a different note:
Both of those players could just be citizens trying to die to save PR's.

Directing scum to shoot the sheriff.
Mafia shoots Sheriff.
Doctor#1 heals the Sheriff!
Serial Killer stabs the Sheriff.
Doctor#2 heals the Sheriff!
Witch seduces the Vigilante to shoot the Sheriff.

Day 6: The Sheriff died from multiple attacks.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Well I was actually trying to direct scum to shoot the sheriff, who should have both doctors on :p, and as such fail in their efforts to kill him.
On a different note:
Both of those players could just be citizens trying to die to save PR's.

The way you were directing is mafia + sk + witched vigilante to shoot the sheriff > 2 doctor heals. So, I think you're really directing scum to triple kill the sheriff instead of directing them to fail in their effort to kill him.

Also, if you believe those players could be citizens trying to die to save PR's, then why don't you "direct" a triple scum kill onto a possible citizen instead of the confirmed sheriff?

[FM Agahnim]

The way you were directing is mafia + sk + witched vigilante to shoot the sheriff > 2 doctor heals. So, I think you're really directing scum to triple kill the sheriff instead of directing them to fail in their effort to kill him.

Also, if you believe those players could be citizens trying to die to save PR's, then why don't you "direct" a triple scum kill onto a possible citizen instead of the confirmed sheriff?

Because there are good odds that they are what they claim to be.
Also 1 player, even a sherrif who never seems to be on to tell us what he got in feedback, death at night greatly hinders scum anyways and gives town more time to hunt them.

I get the downside of this. I do. Call me scum for it. Knock yourselves out.
I'm town. Nuff said

[FM Agahnim]

Don't worry, I will have some questions for you later. I just had some other stuff to analyze first.

Ask away.

[FM Sherlock]

I belive that Agahnim is town because he defended me at least once, saying something about my "town reads".

Basically anyone who said about town reads from me can be trusted (like King Arthur). Wolverine is an obvious scum for telling the town to lynch the vigilante or to make the group suicide.

Suicide will not help us in any way, because it will NOT reduce the speed at which the scum can kill us. Had I become lynched today, town would have achieved NOTHING. Ablsoutely nothing. By claiming myslef, Igive the town a CHANCE to fix things up and find the real scum. Witch/Serial Killer are the top priority for us now.

[FM Sherlock]

I'll repeat this at once. I'm not going to suicide.

We'll find the witch/serial killer and lynch then off. I believe that you can do it. All I had to do is to pull you in the right direction.

[FM Agahnim]

@Yayap

No offense to you at all. You run a good game and this setup is as enjoyable as it can be with the players in it. I would very much like to play any one of your setups that you come up with in the future provided you allow me to. Once again: I very much enjoy your games and I look forward to playing more of them. None of the problems of this lay at your feet and they are solely on the players but, I am pretty tired of this game due to the majority lurkers and bad play, myself included (I paid too little attention to all I was saying), and as such I feel weary being faced with the task of scum hunting through this swamp of "Let's all practically ragequit because we don't have a night action."

[FM Agahnim]

I'll repeat this at once. I'm not going to suicide.

We'll find the witch/serial killer and lynch then off. I believe that you can do it. All I had to do is to pull you in the right direction.

Are you retarded?

PLEASE TELL US WHO THE WITCH IS SO THAT YOU CAN FAIL AS HARD AS YOU HAVE DONE THUS FAR.

[FM Agahnim]

Locutus:

I think this player could be the witch, this is a bit of a stretch for me (I am assuming that the witch is active-ish and sheeps with the strong town players while subtly supplementing pushes against ppl), as he has not stood out in any real way for either town or scum. He has not shown any connections with anybody and he was been inactive enough to both fade from attention and appear as a possible town PR/ (Most of the Town PRs are revealed so..)
I dunno tbh. I never paid attention to this player. :(

[FM Sherlock]

I agree about Locutus. But we should wait for Sam first and ask him if he has been witched or not.

[FM Sherlock]

From now on, please make out a list of players thast have defended me at least ONCE or said that there are possible town reads from me. We'll check the posts from the lasts few days and find scum among people that strongly pushed the lynch on me.

I remember that Agahnim and King Arthur tried to defend me. Coookie Monster too, but he is dead now.

[FM Agahnim]

From now on, please make out a list of players thast have defended me at least ONCE or said that there are possible town reads from me. We'll check the posts from the lasts few days and find scum among people that strongly pushed the lynch on me.

I remember that Agahnim and King Arthur tried to defend me. Coookie Monster too, but he is dead now.


Just putting this out there:
You are not confirmed Vigilante. (Even though you, having claimed Vigilante, are most likely Vigilante)

[FM Hamburglar]

Seeing how Sherlock hasn't been CC-d, i seriously think that rubber ducky gimli and spongebob are the most likely candidates to be scum.
For some weird reason only the lurkers got targetted for ~4 days straight(?) and now they went for Jack/Indiana? Why did mafia kill Jack? I think he was on the right track, so imma reread Jacks posts on who his suspicions were on D4.

[FM Yosemite Sam]

I checked Sherlock this night and he appeared as TOWN
He certainly is not witch and can be highly vigilante. Less likely to be gf... what gf claims to be a vigilante lol?

[FM Yosemite Sam]

I have my doubts at Spongebob, Wolverine and Loctus mostly.

Seeing as Sherlock and Aghanim are against Loctus I'm up for the lynch

[FM Sherlock]

Damn it Sam. I should have really kept my mouth shut.

[FM Hamburglar]

waiting for the sheriff before making decisions was the most obvious path of choice, like i did.
So, who do we lynch? Gimli and Rubberducky are not getting modkilled for being incredibly lurky

[FM Yosemite Sam]

I say Loctus, he is quite shady, and as I have read through this it seems quite some people have eyes on him.
If you have better suggestions, state so and why. Going up and lynching people with 0 posts is stupid, they can be citizens lol.
Aghanim defended sherlock so I have his trust. Inspector is incognito for me... can't fcking tell if mafia or town or something else.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Well I was actually trying to direct scum to shoot the sheriff, who should have both doctors on :p, and as such fail in their efforts to kill him.
On a different note:
Both of those players could just be citizens trying to die to save PR's.


I say Loctus, he is quite shady, and as I have read through this it seems quite some people have eyes on him.
If you have better suggestions, state so and why. Going up and lynching people with 0 posts is stupid, they can be citizens lol.
Aghanim defended sherlock so I have his trust. Inspector is incognito for me... can't fcking tell if mafia or town or something else.

I really do not trust Agahnim. If I die tomorrow please keep an eye on him. He is just being really rude to deflect attention from himself and has handled the slight pressure given by me and Ceasar very poorly.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Whoops, sorry for the Agahnim quote in my previous post. I thought I caught a scum slip but it turned out to be nothing.

[FM Yosemite Sam]

FM Sherlock

This is one of the first posts of this fine man.

Came just to lynch is it? and spongebob too... I'm not sure for loctus as he did made some sensible arguments but still i want to hear other opinions.

[FM Yosemite Sam]

This is one of the first posts of this fine man.

Came just to lynch is it? and spongebob too... I'm not quite sure if we should lynch loctus as he did post some sensible arguments but still i want to hear other opinions.

EDITED.

[FM Agahnim]

I really do not trust Agahnim. If I die tomorrow please keep an eye on him. He is just being really rude to deflect attention from himself and has handled the slight pressure given by me and Ceasar very poorly.

I am starting to vary my personality with each game.
If you noticed I have been rather rude all game to everyone :p

[FM Hamburglar]

inb4 i die for being high on many townlists posted today: i claim doc.

[FM Hamburglar]

btw gimli comes, doesn't say anything, votes sherlock and leaves.
Mafia member who got no clue what to say, but knowing that sherlock isn't mafia he just votes him?