Day 3: Do you know WIFOM?

[Forum Mafia GM]

After the horrible disaster the previous day that ended with the scum rejoicing, the town swore to get their revenge. Sadly, this was not meant to be. For the Colonel was found with mustard and ketchup all over his uniform. Riddled with bullets from a tommy gun, his lifeless body lay wasted in the dining room. Another citizen has been killed by the mafia.

Another citizen was found close by, Frankenstein was shot with a silver bullet from a rather unique gun. The hand made device was carved in haste but was effective and suited its purpose. Unfortunately the user of such crude weapon was none the wiser and had shot one of his own friends.

When the Bridge Keeper saw this, he asked himself, What was his name? What was his quest? What killed him..... which lead to the Vigilante promtly shooting the Bridge Keeper for asking a question he could not answer. The Bridge Keeper's body was then tossed off the cliff out side Fuzzywuzzytown... yet it did not help town at all since he was also one of their loyal citizens.

No modkills tonight, I have received pms about their whereabouts.

Role list:
1-Citizen
2-Citizen
3-Citizen
4-Sheriff
5-Mafioso
6-Citizen: FM Col Jack ONeill - Killed by the Mafia
7-Citizen
8-Citizen
9-Doctor
10-GodFather
11-Citizen
12-Citizen
13-Citizen
14-Vigilante
15-Consort: FM Watson - Killed by the town
16-Citizen
17-Citizen
18-Citizen: FM Frankenstein - Killed by a gun man.
19-Escort
20-Serial Killer
21-Citizen: FM Bridge Keeper - Killed by the Vigilante
22-Citizen
23-Citizen
24-Blacksmith
25-Consigliere
26-Citizen
27-Citizen
28-Citizen
29-Doctor
30-Framer
31-Citizen: FM Yehat - Killed by the Mafia
32-Citizen: FM Mr Bunny - Killed by the Mafia
33-Citizen
34-Sheriff
35-Witch
36-Citizen: FM Gandalf - Killed by an angry town mob.
37-Citizen
38-Citizen: FM The Terminator - Killed by the SK
39-Jailor
40-Mafioso
41-Citizen
42-Citizen

Player List:
01- FM Agahnim
02- FM Animal
03- FM Anubis
04- FM Batman
05- FM Bridge Keeper: Citizen - Killed by the Vigilante
06- FM Captain Obvious
07- FM Ceasar
08- FM Col Jack ONeill: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
09- FM Cookie Monster
10- FM Count von Count
11- FM Dracula
12- FM Frankenstein: Citizen - Killed by a gun man.
13- FM Gandalf: Citizen - Killed by an angry town mob.
14- FM Gimli
15- FM Hamburglar
16- FM Hungry
17- FM Indiana Jones
18- FM Inspector Cluseau
19- FM Jack Sparrow
20- FM Kermit
21- FM King Arthur
22- FM King Tut
23- FM Locutus
24- FM Lone Ranger
25- FM Master Chef
26- FM Michigan J Frog
27- FM Mr Bunny: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
28- FM Mr T
29- FM Pinkie Pie
30- FM Prince Thrakhath
31- FM Robin Hood
32- FM Rubber Ducky
33- FM Sherlock
34- FM SpongeBob
35- FM The Joker
36- FM The Terminator: Citizen - Killed by the SK
37- FM Watson: Consort - Killed by the Town
38- FM Wile E Coyote
39- FM Wolverine
40- FM Yehat: Citizen - Killed by the Mafia
41- FM Yoda
42- FM Yosemite Sam


Players alive: 34
19

Day will end Dec 23rd, 8pm GMT-5 (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=dec+23rd+2012+8pm+gmt-5)
Lynch number updated.

After reviewing the poll, it has been decided that FM 16 will be on break Dec 24th to Dec 26th and Dec 31st to Jan 1st.

[FM Master Chef]

what was that you said about me yesterday, hungry? i wouldn't vote watson because i'm his mafia buddy?

what?
bitch?

[FM Agahnim]

As ridiculous as all these lurking citizen were It actually helps us in regard to realizing that most of the scum are active players instead of lurkers. For the most part at least.

[Inspector Cluseau]

Nothing happened to me last night.

[FM Master Chef]

okay apparently the SK didn't kill. maybe he found mafia last night? also some1 used blacksmith gun

[Inspector Cluseau]

Can we maybe have our Vig/Blacksmith'd you know... NOT shoot? lol

[Inspector Cluseau]

So far this is 7 to 1. Not a winning ratio.

[FM King Arthur]

As ridiculous as all these lurking citizen were It actually helps us in regard to realizing that most of the scum are active players instead of lurkers. For the most part at least.

There be truth in that. When I sent mine vote on the Holiday questionnaire, I saw no less than four others around and only one of them was in a place to which I held a key. Some must have been conversing in a secret hideout. Although some of them art active at night, I knoweth not for certain if they lurketh when the sun shines.

It looketh like the serial killer didst not kill again. Curious.

I shalt cast mine vote against Master Chef for this moment. Tis not a lynch vote yet per say, but I trusteth him the least of all right now and it shalt be known. I am very interested in the findings of our sheriffs last night, however. Either Gandalf was framed, or the true second sheriff hath failed to report to duty when he shouldst have. My confidence in Yosemite on the other hand hath grown.

FM Master Chef

[FM Agahnim]

We should have a discussion about the possible scuminess of Rubber Ducky, Joker, and Lone Ranger/Spongebob

Personally I find the fact that Rubber Ducky leaves for over 48 hours without making a single notice of said leaving scummy.
His trolling on a non troll day, d2, and abrupt leaving after being called scum seem to me to be scum tells/slips. There is not much else to read on him as he did leave early.

Joker was called GF by someone who was already scummy themselves. His reaction to this called out was short, brief, and contained a "your a dumbass" message. This seems to me to be a legit call out and a scummy w/ disbelieve call out. Even if FM Prince Thrakhath is actually an SK, which is probable since he does not seem the type to read the setup anyways, this lynch train could be telling and useful to town in hunting scum.

Lone Ranger wants someone to speed him up on what he missed the last two days and not read. Personally this seems to me to be a scumtell in the sense that a townie would want to read the day chat to catch slips and lies made by scum.

Spongebob does not have much to read in terms of scumminess but the lack of this does not make him town by any means. His sheeping with the sheriff, when the lynchee was rather obviously town, and refusal to think another way seems scummy to me.

[FM Master Chef]

I shalt cast mine vote against Master Chef for this moment. Tis not a lynch vote yet per say, but I trusteth him the least of all right now and it shalt be known. I am very interested in the findings of our sheriffs last night, however. Either Gandalf was framed, or the true second sheriff hath failed to report to duty when he shouldst have. My confidence in Yosemite on the other hand hath grown.

i dont get it. wats the point of voting me if u arent going to lynch me? hoping 2 start a bandwagon?
u pathetic scum

[FM King Arthur]

Can we maybe have our Vig/Blacksmith'd you know... NOT shoot? lol

On the contrary. The death of Frankenstein hath been helpful. If thou hadn't noticed, he purposefully misvoted twice and only trolleth in the few posts he made. His presence wouldst only have made it more difficult to get sufficient votes to lynch in the end and he added nothing to the discussion whatsoever. I am glad he is gone.

[Inspector Cluseau]

FM Master Chef

[FM Agahnim]

Seriously. Stop being sheep and look at my post about my scum FoS's and then respond in kind.

[FM Count von Count]

Nothing happened to me last night.
Common Blacksmith pick up your game and give me a gun.
How is King Arthur still alive, if he is not mafia you think they would have killed him to stop the RP.

[FM Master Chef]

look at me im mafia lul

yes, son. yes u r

[Inspector Cluseau]

Well, I think the Blacksmith should really start giving out Vests. Vests going to scum doesn't help them as much as guns going to them could. And Vests coming to Town doesn't possibly hurt us.

[Inspector Cluseau]

We should have a discussion about the possible scuminess of Rubber Ducky, Joker, and Lone Ranger/Spongebob

Personally I find the fact that Rubber Ducky leaves for over 48 hours without making a single notice of said leaving scummy.
His trolling on a non troll day, d2, and abrupt leaving after being called scum seem to me to be scum tells/slips. There is not much else to read on him as he did leave early.

Joker was called GF by someone who was already scummy themselves. His reaction to this called out was short, brief, and contained a "your a dumbass" message. This seems to me to be a legit call out and a scummy w/ disbelieve call out. Even if FM Prince Thrakhath is actually an SK, which is probable since he does not seem the type to read the setup anyways, this lynch train could be telling and useful to town in hunting scum.

Lone Ranger wants someone to speed him up on what he missed the last two days and not read. Personally this seems to me to be a scumtell in the sense that a townie would want to read the day chat to catch slips and lies made by scum.

Spongebob does not have much to read in terms of scumminess but the lack of this does not make him town by any means. His sheeping with the sheriff, when the lynchee was rather obviously town, and refusal to think another way seems scummy to me.

Ducky isn't scum.
Joker- 65% chance of scum
Ranger- 50% chance of scum, check his responses to the responses to his asking about the day.
Spongbob- 85% chance of scum.

[FM Agahnim]

Well, I think the Blacksmith should really start giving out Vests. Vests going to scum doesn't help them as much as guns going to them could. And Vests coming to Town doesn't possibly hurt us.

I agree with this but only if you retract the statement about vests not helping scum because they do help scum.
While the shot at Frankenstein helped bit more than it hurt, it still hurt.

[FM Master Chef]

We should have a discussion about the possible scuminess of Rubber Ducky, Joker, and Lone Ranger/Spongebob

Personally I find the fact that Rubber Ducky leaves for over 48 hours without making a single notice of said leaving scummy.
His trolling on a non troll day, d2, and abrupt leaving after being called scum seem to me to be scum tells/slips. There is not much else to read on him as he did leave early.

Joker was called GF by someone who was already scummy themselves. His reaction to this called out was short, brief, and contained a "your a dumbass" message. This seems to me to be a legit call out and a scummy w/ disbelieve call out. Even if FM Prince Thrakhath is actually an SK, which is probable since he does not seem the type to read the setup anyways, this lynch train could be telling and useful to town in hunting scum.

Lone Ranger wants someone to speed him up on what he missed the last two days and not read. Personally this seems to me to be a scumtell in the sense that a townie would want to read the day chat to catch slips and lies made by scum.

Spongebob does not have much to read in terms of scumminess but the lack of this does not make him town by any means. His sheeping with the sheriff, when the lynchee was rather obviously town, and refusal to think another way seems scummy to me.

i agree tht they are all scummy as fuck. i think spongebob could be a reserved citizen that is juts too lazy 2 keep up with us. it happens lots of times, but thats just my gut feeling

[FM King Arthur]

i dont get it. wats the point of voting me if u arent going to lynch me? hoping 2 start a bandwagon?
u pathetic scum

Of all people I wouldst support a lynch on thee the most at present. That it needn't be a lynch vote per say means that I shalt be willing to change mine vote shouldst another person end up deserving it more than thou.

If thou couldst explain why thou thinketh that - if Indiana Jones wert not the true second sheriff - the true one shouldst not claim yesterday, that could be a start towards clearing thy name. This be without taking hindsight into consideration.

[FM Agahnim]

FM The Joker

This vote begins what I feel is the best choice for a lynch with the information given to us today.

[FM Master Chef]

Of all people I wouldst support a lynch on thee the most at present. That it needn't be a lynch vote per say means that I shalt be willing to change mine vote shouldst another person end up deserving it more than thou.

If thou couldst explain why thou thinketh that - if Indiana Jones wert not the true second sheriff - the true one shouldst not claim yesterday, that could be a start towards clearing thy name. This be without taking hindsight into consideration.

how about u start typing normally first? otherwise i think i dont care much about ur opinion tbh

[Inspector Cluseau]

I agree with this but only if you retract the statement about vests not helping scum because they do help scum.
While the shot at Frankenstein helped bit more than it hurt, it still hurt.

I said vests going to scum doesn't help them AS MUCH as guns going to them can.
Vests are just safer.

[FM Master Chef]

how about u start typing normally first? otherwise i think i dont care much about ur opinion tbh

btw i never said i doubted indiana jone's claim. i do believe that if there was another sheriff that he would've claimed yesterday.

[Inspector Cluseau]

how about u start typing normally first? otherwise i think i dont care much about ur opinion tbh

scum.

[FM Ceasar]

Hey guys. Who killed Frankenstein?

[FM Master Chef]

Hey guys. Who killed Frankenstein?

someone with a gun. maybe it was sam?

[FM Master Chef]

someone with a gun. maybe it was sam?

this doesnt matter anyways. blacksmith should probly give vests/guns to the most trusted sheriff

[FM King Arthur]

I agree with this but only if you retract the statement about vests not helping scum because they do help scum.
While the shot at Frankenstein helped bit more than it hurt, it still hurt.

It didst not hurt if there be a gain overall.

The trouble with vests be that they go wasted unless they art used exactly by the correct person on the correct night. With a gun, as long as tis used well, the effect doth not rely on the prediction of another's actions and is guaranteed to function as the user desires. It canst take an evil person right out of the game.

[FM King Arthur]

this doesnt matter anyways. blacksmith should probly give vests/guns to the most trusted sheriff

That wouldst make things very easy for the witch, now wouldn't it?

[FM Master Chef]

That wouldst make things very easy for the witch, now wouldn't it?

i dont think witches can direct guns? i thought witches only redirects a person's main action?

[FM King Arthur]

The rolecard sayeth otherwise.

[FM Ceasar]

I believe that Guns are more useful then vests. Vests are extremely rarely used correctly, seeing how people always love to hang on them, and die with them in their possesion. Guns are much more straightforward.

[FM Master Chef]

i dont think witches can direct guns? i thought witches only redirects a person's main action?
"Witch cannot force a player to use an item, but if a gun is used, witch can change it's target."

ok nevermind i found the answer

[FM Agahnim]

Whoever used that gun, btw, should be aligned town based on shot target and the immediate use. Scum would probably only use the gun a few nights after receiving a gun to chill suspicions. <-- personal belief.

[FM Master Chef]

i bet jack sparrow killed colonel jack because there can only be 1 jack

[FM Master Chef]

FM Inspector Cluseau

ok i'm going to sleep in approx. 10 minutes. im leaving this pressure vote on because inspector seems to be showing off as scummy in my radar. this may seem like omgus but i quick-reviewed his posts and he posts alot of 1-liners without much thought. obvious scum is obvious

[FM Jack Sparrow]

i bet jack sparrow killed colonel jack because there can only be 1 jack

Yeah Told u i would kill him didn't i? Thanks for scum keeping eleminating everyone who goes on my nerves. I really appreciate it!

Let's wait for our sheriffs to guide us through the next day. All in all this is just another standard setup where TPR will guide us to victory through their night actions.


How many scum were on the lynch train on Gandalf last day what do you expect? I must admit his flip flopping around. from cit to doc wifom let him appear scummy to me. What exactly did we gain through his lynch?

Suggestions plz.



nothing happened to me last night.

[FM King Arthur]

I thinketh that the mafia decided to kill the Colonel not necessarily because they thinketh him to be on the right track in his readings, but to make it appear like those he was suspecting on the previous day were afraid. Mayhaps because they got the sweet taste of a successful framing.

Therefore, Jack Sparrow and Cluseau seem a tad more trustworthy to me.

However, even though his claiming doctor may not have been the wisest thing to do, Wile E and Frog changeth their minds about the gandalf lynch quite unexpectedly to me. I worry that they may hath seen an opportunity that was too good to pass up on. I thought for sure they wouldst go with the jailing plan instead, as they seemed the patient type. This couldst mean nothing, but I art just putting it out there.

Jack Sparrow didst the same, yet in his state of mind at the time, I was not surprised by his vote.

[FM Master Chef]

How many scum were on the lynch train on Gandalf last day what do you expect? I must admit his flip flopping around. from cit to doc wifom let him appear scummy to me. What exactly did we gain through his lynch?

Suggestions plz.

atleast the half or majority of the mafia team was in it if they are sheeps. they couldve chosen to not vote if they wanted to seem pro-town. maybe they wanted to be one of those "i told you so!" people.

i agree his flip flop was scummy but gandalf did appear a little pro-town. but we gained that: 1. either he was framed or 2. indiana jones ran a risky gambit as a mafia member and the real sheriff didn't CC. (most likely he was framed)

[FM Master Chef]

Nothing happened to me last night.
Common Blacksmith pick up your game and give me a gun.
How is King Arthur still alive, if he is not mafia you think they would have killed him to stop the RP.

stop directing traffic
insert code here

[FM Master Chef]

k im going 2 sleep now.

[FM King Arthur]

atleast the half or majority of the mafia team was in it if they are sheeps. they couldve chosen to not vote if they wanted to seem pro-town. maybe they wanted to be one of those "i told you so!" people.

I cannot help but thinketh thou art implying me here, as I was perhaps the most vocal opponent of the lynch that never switcheth.

Yet on the other side we have thee, refusing to explain thine odd suggestions other day for no good reason. Thee, who wert cheering on the lynch fairly early on. Who lied about night feedback (albeit an easy lie to see through). And who again made a suggestion that wouldst benefit the witch today, supposedly because thou wert unacquainted with her rolecard. What I see doth not speak fond of thee. Either thou art strangely misguided and confused, or thou art scum.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

I don't think anyone will trust me now. But I want to say this...


Look out for people who backed down from his lynch and death by vigilante after his scummy reads and doctor claims. Those who pushed for his death/lynch or voted for him after his read and claims are most likely town.

[FM King Arthur]

I don't think anyone will trust me now. But I want to say this...


Look out for people who backed down from his lynch and death by vigilante after his scummy reads and doctor claims. Those who pushed for his death/lynch or voted for him after his read and claims are most likely town.
I doth not agree with this at all. That false claim, which was a mistake on Gandalf's part, was something evil couldst easily exploit to justify their votes without changing their former opinion overly much.

[FM King Arthur]

That is not to say that most of those votes were scum votes or anything, but I wouldst not be surprised if there were a few.

[FM Jack Sparrow]

Is there a way to multiquote over several threads?

[FM King Arthur]

Copy the writings and put quotes around it manually?

[FM Jack Sparrow]

I wish there was a sticky with all the useful gimmics of the forum which you could use to save yourself quite some time.

[FM Jack Sparrow]

Copy the writings and put quotes around it manually?

Why should i do all the work for all those lazy asses in here? Lulzno.

[FM King Arthur]

Doth that not maketh thee equally lazy?

[FM Pinkie Pie]

I doth not agree with this at all. That false claim, which was a mistake on Gandalf's part, was something evil couldst easily exploit to justify their votes without changing their former opinion overly much.

I disagree with his actions. But only because it makes real doctor claim less believable.

I think you missed my message. I think mafia would try to avoid lynching neutrals and neutrals will try to avoid lynching mafia unless their death is already certain. Thus scum will act like they believed Gandalf's scum claim.

[FM Agahnim]

Is there a way to multiquote over several threads?

Only way I know is Copy and Paste.

@Pinie Pie
Gandalf's flippity claim made him an easy lynch target which would assume that most scum would vote him. However knowing that he would flip mafia, on the scum viewpoint (mafia), means that they would be a rather minor voice for Gandalf's lynch without actually voting him.

[FM Cookie Monster]

HAI
I'm here again >.>
That wasn't really a bad night.. sure a ton of citizen died but most of them are lurkish anyway. And we are quite fortunate the Mafia doesn't take out a better town player

[FM Agahnim]

Only way I know is Copy and Paste.

@Pinie Pie
Gandalf's flippity claim made him an easy lynch target which would assume that most scum would vote him. However knowing that he would flip town, on the scum viewpoint (mafia), means that they would be a rather minor voice for Gandalf's lynch without actually voting him.

fixed my blunder

[FM Cookie Monster]

Only way I know is Copy and Paste.

@Pinie Pie
Gandalf's flippity claim made him an easy lynch target which would assume that most scum would vote him. However knowing that he would flip mafia, on the scum viewpoint (mafia), means that they would be a rather minor voice for Gandalf's lynch without actually voting him.
Don't get what you mean, mafia should know that he would flip TOWN not mafia. Is this a scumslip? :o

[FM Pinkie Pie]

I wish there was a sticky with all the useful gimmics of the forum which you could use to save yourself quite some time.

Scum gimmicks or town gimmicks?

Gandalf certainly used scum gimmicks. Not helped by his scummy reads. I think scum will think that he was scum. But it is certainly strange for his sudden drop of eloquence in his reads and claims. Sounds like a Saruman trapped.

[FM Cookie Monster]

We should decide on who to pressure/lynch today. We should narrow down the lurkers as much as possible
I believe it's currently 27 v 5+2
We can still afford some mislynches

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Don't get what you mean, mafia should know that he would flip TOWN not mafia. Is this a scumslip? :o

Mafia will not know if he will flip SK or witch. Similarly SK or witch will not know if he is indeed mafia.

I think Jack also said something similar yesterday.

[FM Cookie Monster]

FM Kermit
Yeah... shouldn't need much explaining by now

[FM Agahnim]

Don't get what you mean, mafia should know that he would flip TOWN not mafia. Is this a scumslip? :o

When a lynched target flips citizen and someone, 48 hours later, says mafia it cannot, imo, be determined a scumslip.

[FM Agahnim]

Look. At. My. FoS. Targets. And. Discuss. Them. How. Hard. Is. That. To. Do.

[FM Cookie Monster]

Mafia will not know if he will flip SK or witch. Similarly SK or witch will not know if he is indeed mafia.

I think Jack also said something similar yesterday.

Agahnim already corrected his mistake before I sent my post, reread

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Batman even tried to not get you lynched which implies to me that he is probably scum but not neccessarily mafia. Might be neutral scum.


Inb4 you are the serial killer which were framed last night by the Mafia and gets lynched today for the lulz.

Scum might be hesitant to lynch him?

[FM Agahnim]

Scum might be hesitant to lynch him?

Why can you not ever put down who said the quote you quoted.

[FM Cookie Monster]

We should have a discussion about the possible scuminess of Rubber Ducky, Joker, and Lone Ranger/Spongebob

Personally I find the fact that Rubber Ducky leaves for over 48 hours without making a single notice of said leaving scummy.
His trolling on a non troll day, d2, and abrupt leaving after being called scum seem to me to be scum tells/slips. There is not much else to read on him as he did leave early.

Joker was called GF by someone who was already scummy themselves. His reaction to this called out was short, brief, and contained a "your a dumbass" message. This seems to me to be a legit call out and a scummy w/ disbelieve call out. Even if FM Prince Thrakhath is actually an SK, which is probable since he does not seem the type to read the setup anyways, this lynch train could be telling and useful to town in hunting scum.

Lone Ranger wants someone to speed him up on what he missed the last two days and not read. Personally this seems to me to be a scumtell in the sense that a townie would want to read the day chat to catch slips and lies made by scum.

Spongebob does not have much to read in terms of scumminess but the lack of this does not make him town by any means. His sheeping with the sheriff, when the lynchee was rather obviously town, and refusal to think another way seems scummy to me.
It's mostly a recap of what happened, there's not really much to discuss
They all more or less seem like typical bad scum or lazy town. I don't really have any strong reads on them really. I'm more focused on Animal, Anubis, Kermit, Wolverine, Batman and Trakath

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Why can you not ever put down who said the quote you quoted.

D2#522
D2#532

I happen to agree with his observation.

[FM Cookie Monster]

I'm gonna be AFK for an hour or two, be back soon

[FM King Arthur]

I disagree with his actions. But only because it makes real doctor claim less believable.

I think you missed my message. I think mafia would try to avoid lynching neutrals and neutrals will try to avoid lynching mafia unless their death is already certain. Thus scum will act like they believed Gandalf's scum claim.

That be a possible perspective, true. However, what was the chance of them framing a neutral and him being checketh by a sheriff? I'll tell you that be pretty small. Add to that that Gandalf was actually not acting overly scummy during the second day and some of them may have been quite convinced that he was town. Doth not forget that besides removing a vocal and serious player, they wouldst be discrediting Indiana Jones. And assuming he is truly a sheriff, that couldst be very beneficial to the mafia in the future. A small gamble to make for fairly significant benefits.

I'm fairly convinced that thou shalt see when the game is over that one or two mafia players doth vote for him after his claim. Neutrals mayhaps not. Then again, mayhaps it shan't come as a surprise to thee at all. This remains to be seen.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

It's mostly a recap of what happened, there's not really much to discuss
They all more or less seem like typical bad scum or lazy town. I don't really have any strong reads on them really. I'm more focused on Animal, Anubis, Kermit, Wolverine, Batman and Trakath

Aghanim's FoS are all lurkers. What can we discuss? No useful reads.

Animal is like Yosemite so town.
Anubis is either acting stupid or is WIFOMing.
Kermit is asking to be shot. Most likely town.
Wolverine argues politely. Either trying to avoid attention or is just *cough* *hack* polite... *wheeze*
Batman... does he have an avatar yet?
Trakath is trolling. Hard. I think he is the vigilante or jailor. He must be.

[FM King Arthur]

Joker, Lone Ranger, Spongebob, Kermit, Thrakhath, Mr T and Gimli all still be on the check-or-shoot list by the King's decree, despite the citizen deaths we suffereth last night. Their behavior be harmful and I have not much else to say about them.

Animal and Wile E have since mingled some more and allowed us to read them a little, which I am thankful for.

[FM King Arthur]

Rubber Ducky shouldst be added to the list of check-or-shoot. I thinketh I forgot to add him last time.

Count von Count be a strange case. He be excessively aggressive towards me for some reason and I thinketh naming my way of speech couldst be a cover-up. He shouldst be an option for a sheriff as well. Not certain if he shouldst be considered for a shot just yet, but if he doth not improve his daytime contributions I may change my mind about that. I think he knoweth very well what I am saying, in any case.

Wolverine hath not really caught mine attention yet. He seemeth like an average person, couldst be anything. That of course be a good guise for evil, but tis hard to tell.

[FM Agahnim]

Kermit is not asking to be shot as he is just being a nuisance and sheep. Frankenstein had been the same way

[FM Ceasar]

Question: How come the orriginal waggon against Sparrow has completely died? I found the D1 notion quite interesting. Was there an inno lead by a sheriff?

[FM Wile E Coyote]

I'll have to apologize; It's 1:30 AM and I just got home.

Just checking in and saying nothing happened to me last night; I'll be here all day tomorrow.

My bed is calling me.

[FM Cookie Monster]

Aghanim's FoS are all lurkers. What can we discuss? No useful reads.

Animal is like Yosemite so town.
Anubis is either acting stupid or is WIFOMing.
Kermit is asking to be shot. Most likely town.
Wolverine argues politely. Either trying to avoid attention or is just *cough* *hack* polite... *wheeze*
Batman... does he have an avatar yet?
Trakath is trolling. Hard. I think he is the vigilante or jailor. He must be.
Disagree on some of your opinions, particularyly Kermit and Animal
Just because Animal acts like Yosemite doesn't mean he is town. If it hadn't been for yosemite getting a good sheriff check I would probably suspect him due to lurking
Kermit is very scummy, why would town even ask to be shot.........

[FM Cookie Monster]

Question: How come the orriginal waggon against Sparrow has completely died? I found the D1 notion quite interesting. Was there an inno lead by a sheriff?

I still found him quite scummy, particularly because I think that the frame on Gandalf might be because it can help clear Sparrow , and it turned out rather well for the scum if they really did that. But there are just more scummy person atm and Sparrow have been acting slightly more town-ish as of recent

I want to know who our sheriffs check

[FM Cookie Monster]

Also there is no SK kill last night, and the FM GM mentioned that he doesn't modkill people because they PM'ed him about where they are and such
Those who are active late into this day is probably the SK,

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Add to that that Gandalf was actually not acting overly scummy during the second day and some of them may have been quite convinced that he was town.

You mean the first half of the day...

There must be something wrong with those who thinks that he is doctor or not scum in the second half of the day.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Also there is no SK kill last night, and the FM GM mentioned that he doesn't modkill people because they PM'ed him about where they are and such
Those who are active late into this day is probably the SK,

Our killer is not very serial lol.

[FM Jack Sparrow]

Also there is no SK kill last night, and the FM GM mentioned that he doesn't modkill people because they PM'ed him about where they are and such
Those who are active late into this day is probably the SK,

The SK prolly attacked one of the abstainers from yesterdays lynch. Someone like Lucutus.

[FM Agahnim]

1-Citizen
2-Citizen
3-Citizen
4-Sheriff
6-Citizen: FM Col Jack ONeill - Killed by the Mafia - n3
7-Citizen
8-Citizen
9-Doctor
11-Citizen
12-Citizen
13-Citizen
14-Vigilante
16-Citizen
17-Citizen
18-Citizen: FM Frankenstein - Killed by a gun man - n3.
19-Escort
21-Citizen: FM Bridge Keeper - Killed by the Vigilante - n3
22-Citizen
23-Citizen
24-Blacksmith
26-Citizen
27-Citizen
28-Citizen
29-Doctor
30-Framer
31-Citizen: FM Yehat - Killed by the Mafia - n1
32-Citizen: FM Mr Bunny - Killed by the Mafia - n2
33-Citizen
34-Sheriff
36-Citizen: FM Gandalf - Killed by an angry town mob. - d2
37-Citizen
38-Citizen: FM The Terminator - Killed by the SK - n2
39-Jailor
41-Citizen
42-Citizen



15-Consort: FM Watson - Killed by the town - d1
40-Mafioso
25-Consigliere
10-GodFather
5-Mafioso


35-Witch
20-Serial Killer





Mafia kills - Yehat; Mr. Bunny; Col Jack ONeill; (Suggests that the Consig has not acquired any good leads for mafia kills/Found the other neutrals)

SK kills - Terminator (Means that the SK has found a/the Witch/Mafia member n1 and a/the Witch/Mafia member n3)



Day one Lynch -

FM Watson (23 [L--2]):
FM The Terminator, FM Jack Sparrow, FM Robin Hood, FM Agahnim, FM Michigan J Frog, FM Inspector Cluseau, FM Yoda, FM Indiana Jones, FM Ceasar, FM Yosemite Sam, FM King Arthur, FM Master Chef, FM Hamburglar, FM Hungry, FM Wile E Coyote, FM Dracula, FM Kermit, FM Captain Obvious, FM Animal, FM Locutus, FM Col Jack ONeill, FM Anubis, FM Cookie Monster

FM Robin Hood (1 [L-20]):
FM Pinkie Pie

FM Master Chef (2 [L-19]):
FM Prince Thrakhath, FM Mr T




Day two Lynch -

FM Gandalf (20 [L-0]):
FM Cookie Monster, FM Ceasar, FM Inspector Cluseau, FM Captain Obvious, FM Michigan J Frog, FM Col Jack ONeill, FM Indiana Jones, FM Wile E Coyote, FM SpongeBob, FM The Joker, FM Sherlock, FM Anubis, FM Hungry, FM Batman, FM Jack Sparrow, FM Pinkie Pie, FM Yosemite Sam, FM Hamburglar, FM Wolverine, FM Count von Count

FM Sherlock (1 [L-19]):
FM Yoda

FM The Joker (1 [L-19]):
FM Prince Thrakhath

FM Frankenstein (1 [L-19]):
FM King Arthur



In comparision with the two days of leads and lynches, there are a couple of inconsistencies regarding Pinkie Pie.
Pinkie Pie has shown to be a semi-active player but constantly seems to go against the grain and has shown to try and spread instances of doubt. The posts Pinkie gives us are bare-boned and have been dissected to contain very little to no logic/helpfulness to the town.


FM Prince Thrakhath does shows an ineptitude and lack of care about the game while being active enough to maintain life in the game. He avoids the main topic of discussion for other routes of chaos in day chat.

Mr. T does the same as Thrakhath does while not even trying to look townish at all.

Master Chef is a sheep.

Converse about them eh?


I believe that the best choices for a lynch are these:
Joker; Pinkie Pie; Thrakhath; Mr. T; Count von Count;





Key:
Bolded - Going against the grain
Underlined - Missing from 1st mafia lynch

[FM Jack Sparrow]

30. Framer woot?

[FM Agahnim]

1-Citizen
2-Citizen
3-Citizen
4-Sheriff
6-Citizen: FM Col Jack ONeill - Killed by the Mafia - n3
7-Citizen
8-Citizen
9-Doctor
11-Citizen
12-Citizen
13-Citizen
14-Vigilante
16-Citizen
17-Citizen
18-Citizen: FM Frankenstein - Killed by a gun man - n3.
19-Escort
21-Citizen: FM Bridge Keeper - Killed by the Vigilante - n3
22-Citizen
23-Citizen
24-Blacksmith
26-Citizen
27-Citizen
28-Citizen
29-Doctor
31-Citizen: FM Yehat - Killed by the Mafia - n1
32-Citizen: FM Mr Bunny - Killed by the Mafia - n2
33-Citizen
34-Sheriff
36-Citizen: FM Gandalf - Killed by an angry town mob. - d2
37-Citizen
38-Citizen: FM The Terminator - Killed by the SK - n2
39-Jailor
41-Citizen
42-Citizen



15-Consort: FM Watson - Killed by the town - d1
40-Mafioso
25-Consigliere
10-GodFather
30-Framer
5-Mafioso


35-Witch
20-Serial Killer





Mafia kills - Yehat; Mr. Bunny; Col Jack ONeill; (Suggests that the Consig has not acquired any good leads for mafia kills/Found the other neutrals)

SK kills - Terminator (Means that the SK has found a/the Witch/Mafia member n1 and a/the Witch/Mafia member n3)



Day one Lynch -

FM Watson (23 [L--2]):
FM The Terminator, FM Jack Sparrow, FM Robin Hood, FM Agahnim, FM Michigan J Frog, FM Inspector Cluseau, FM Yoda, FM Indiana Jones, FM Ceasar, FM Yosemite Sam, FM King Arthur, FM Master Chef, FM Hamburglar, FM Hungry, FM Wile E Coyote, FM Dracula, FM Kermit, FM Captain Obvious, FM Animal, FM Locutus, FM Col Jack ONeill, FM Anubis, FM Cookie Monster

FM Robin Hood (1 [L-20]):
FM Pinkie Pie

FM Master Chef (2 [L-19]):
FM Prince Thrakhath, FM Mr T




Day two Lynch -

FM Gandalf (20 [L-0]):
FM Cookie Monster, FM Ceasar, FM Inspector Cluseau, FM Captain Obvious, FM Michigan J Frog, FM Col Jack ONeill, FM Indiana Jones, FM Wile E Coyote, FM SpongeBob, FM The Joker, FM Sherlock, FM Anubis, FM Hungry, FM Batman, FM Jack Sparrow, FM Pinkie Pie, FM Yosemite Sam, FM Hamburglar, FM Wolverine, FM Count von Count

FM Sherlock (1 [L-19]):
FM Yoda

FM The Joker (1 [L-19]):
FM Prince Thrakhath

FM Frankenstein (1 [L-19]):
FM King Arthur



In comparision with the two days of leads and lynches, there are a couple of inconsistencies regarding Pinkie Pie.
Pinkie Pie has shown to be a semi-active player but constantly seems to go against the grain and has shown to try and spread instances of doubt. The posts Pinkie gives us are bare-boned and have been dissected to contain very little to no logic/helpfulness to the town.


FM Prince Thrakhath does shows an ineptitude and lack of care about the game while being active enough to maintain life in the game. He avoids the main topic of discussion for other routes of chaos in day chat.

Mr. T does the same as Thrakhath does while not even trying to look townish at all.

Master Chef is a sheep.

Converse about them eh?


I believe that the best choices for a lynch are these:
Joker; Pinkie Pie; Thrakhath; Mr. T; Count von Count;





Key:
Bolded - Going against the grain
Underlined - Missing from 1st mafia lynch


fixed another blunder

[FM Sherlock]

What a night.

In case if you start your lynch train on me again, I'll tell you one thing: I expected to be dead this night. I was so fucking sure that vigilante would shoot me after Gandalf flipped citizen. I should have been dead by all means.

[FM Agahnim]

What a night.

In case if you start your lynch train on me again, I'll tell you one thing: I expected to be dead this night. I was so fucking sure that vigilante would shoot me after Gandalf flipped citizen. I should have been dead by all means.

This means nothing in terms of "proof" of you being town.

[FM Agahnim]

I believe that lynching Joker provides town with the most information atm due to Thrakhath's claim of role + night action.
If Joker is Mafia then I believe there are good odds on Thrakhath being the SK he claims to be, which would eliminate a KPN for us.

[FM Sherlock]

Yeah, and this is why I suggest that we should lynch no-one today. We need to put our jailor in real action now. If you don't have any real leads against Mafia, then you should let the jailor jail.

Now that I think about it, that jail plan was really better than lynching Gandalf.

But it's Gandalf's fault that he claimed himself doctor! And why Anubis and Cluseau claimed thenselves as doctors as well? Had they not made such a claim, we would let Gandalf live. Because of what they did, they are on my suspect list now. Don't you agree?

[FM Agahnim]

Yeah, and this is why I suggest that we should lynch no-one today. We need to put our jailor in real action now. If you don't have any real leads against Mafia, then you should let the jailor jail.

Now that I think about it, that jail plan was really better than lynching Gandalf.

But it's Gandalf's fault that he claimed himself doctor! And why Anubis and Cluseau claimed thenselves as doctors as well? Had they not made such a claim, we would let Gandalf live. Because of what they did, they are on my suspect list now. Don't you agree?

This is also false.
You had proclaimed lynching on Gandalf before and after any doc claims. And the call to lynch increased form you after he claimed doctor, form what I recall

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Oh sorry for living in the wrong time zone in day 1. My fault for not waking up in the middle of the night. Yosemite decided to claim after I went to sleep. Then, Gandalf decided to backstab me when I'm away. Then, you guys ended the day early. And for those derps who said I voted the sheriff, do you actually think that I'm the consig who knew he was one?

And certainly, we should not be thinking about alternative hypothesis and possibilities. We must conform so that we looked like "town". Scum must be very happy now.

Yay, going against the grain = no logic. You must be among the players who can't read the meaning in between the lines. Like someone who called me a jester yesterday, and thus I must be ignored. Please play according to the current setup, not according to your SC2 Mafia or other forum mafia setups.

I find Count von Count funny. Don't lynch him please. Kill the trolls and lurkers instead. Eh, somehow the lurkers and non-contributors are missing from your list. Where is Gimli and his ilk?

[FM Agahnim]

Oh sorry for living in the wrong time zone in day 1. My fault for not waking up in the middle of the night. Yosemite decided to claim after I went to sleep. Then, Gandalf decided to backstab me when I'm away. Then, you guys ended the day early. And for those derps who said I voted the sheriff, do you actually think that I'm the consig who knew he was one?

And certainly, we should not be thinking about alternative hypothesis and possibilities. We must conform so that we looked like "town". Scum must be very happy now.

Yay, going against the grain = no logic. You must be among the players who can't read the meaning in between the lines. Like someone who called me a jester yesterday, and thus I must be ignored. Please play according to the current setup, not according to your SC2 Mafia or other forum mafia setups.

I find Count von Count funny. Don't lynch him please. Kill the trolls and lurkers instead. Eh, somehow the lurkers and non-contributors are missing from your list. Where is Gimli and his ilk?

Personal attack + discrediting/insinuate me being scum are contained in this defensive post.

I kept myself contained to the lynch votes for the most part.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

I believe that lynching Joker provides town with the most information atm due to Thrakhath's claim of role + night action.
If Joker is Mafia then I believe there are good odds on Thrakhath being the SK he claims to be, which would eliminate a KPN for us.

That's doesn't prove anything... what are you? Level 1 player?


This is also false.
You had proclaimed lynching on Gandalf before and after any doc claims. And the call to lynch increased form you after he claimed doctor, form what I recall

You mean you believed his doctor claim? And his reads? Should I tell you why his reads are scummy?

[FM Yosemite Sam]

Time to get the party starting, I wasn't witched tonight and found a mafia.

FM Pinkie Pie

Go go choo train.

[FM Agahnim]

That's doesn't prove anything... what are you? Level 1 player?



You mean you believed his doctor claim? And his reads? Should I tell you why his reads are scummy?

I was the one telling you he was most likely a Framed Citizen from his day posts -.-
Are you really so taken aback from my calling you scum that you must try as hard as possible to slot me scum/discredit my posts?

[FM Sherlock]

This is also false.
You had proclaimed lynching on Gandalf before and after any doc claims. And the call to lynch increased form you after he claimed doctor, form what I recall

But this was not normal for me. Being a citizen, he claimed himself DOCTOR. And by doing that, he made Anubis and Cluseau claim thenselves as doctors too. I suspect that SK tried to attack Anubis or Cluseau but failed because he hit a Mafia member.

[FM Animal]

Oh sorry for living in the wrong time zone in day 1. My fault for not waking up in the middle of the night. Yosemite decided to claim after I went to sleep. Then, Gandalf decided to backstab me when I'm away. Then, you guys ended the day early. And for those derps who said I voted the sheriff, do you actually think that I'm the consig who knew he was one?

And certainly, we should not be thinking about alternative hypothesis and possibilities. We must conform so that we looked like "town". Scum must be very happy now.

Yay, going against the grain = no logic. You must be among the players who can't read the meaning in between the lines. Like someone who called me a jester yesterday, and thus I must be ignored. Please play according to the current setup, not according to your SC2 Mafia or other forum mafia setups.

I find Count von Count funny. Don't lynch him please. Kill the trolls and lurkers instead. Eh, somehow the lurkers and non-contributors are missing from your list. Where is Gimli and his ilk?

I said you were jester because you were posting one line accusations with no appropriate reasoning.

[FM Agahnim]

Time to get the party starting, I wasn't witched tonight and found a mafia.

FM Pinkie Pie

Go go choo train.

Well then.
Does anyone else think that this is a legit check?

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Personal attack + discrediting/insinuate me being scum are contained in this defensive post.

I kept myself contained to the lynch votes for the most part.

Lol. I'm only calling you stupid. Didn't say you are scum at all. Feeling the heat?

I'm surprised all those "I don't want attention" players failed to make into your list. Ham, Wolverine, Dracula, Yoda, (not suspicious), etc.

[FM Locutus]

The SK prolly attacked one of the abstainers from yesterdays lynch. Someone like Lucutus.

Nothing happened to me Jackie boy. I decided to stick to the no lynch plan so vigilante could shoot him at night. As jailor could jail.

Pinkie Pie

[FM Sherlock]

Time to get the party starting, I wasn't witched tonight and found a mafia.

FM Pinkie Pie

Go go choo train.

Good call, Sam. I always thought that there was something fishy with Pinkie. With his current behavior, I'm fairly sure that Pinkie was not framed.

Pinkie Pie

[FM Yosemite Sam]

I still don't know who the blacksmith is giving guns to. :( Sadly it is not me.

[FM Agahnim]

Lol. I'm only calling you stupid. Didn't say you are scum at all. Feeling the heat?

I'm surprised all those "I don't want attention" players failed to make into your list. Ham, Wolverine, Dracula, Yoda, (not suspicious), etc.

You are directly calling me dumb but insinuating that I am scum trying to mislynch.



Townmembers - Should we lynch or allow jailor to jail/Vigi to shoot

[FM Locutus]

Well then.
Does anyone else think that this is a legit check?

Probably a legit check.
Possible frame.
Mind as well pressure a little bit.

[FM Animal]

Wonderful, I shall glad you're going to be gone.
FM Pinkie Pie
If we want to jail, I shall unvote.

[FM Sherlock]

I still don't know who the blacksmith is giving guns to. :( Sadly it is not me.

What you are talking about? You already have your "big gun" with you.

[FM Yosemite Sam]

Well then.
Does anyone else think that this is a legit check?

Why think it is not? Are you actually defending him, or are you the SK that attacked him?

[FM Agahnim]

Why think it is not? Are you actually defending him, or are you the SK that attacked him?

I was referring to the Framer in the setup.
Did you miss me calling him scum before you revealed?

[FM Locutus]

FM Pinkie Pie
Forgot the FM

[FM Animal]

She would be a decent frame target, but she has been a nuisance thus far, so I believe it.

[FM Sherlock]

We already had a bad case wih Gandalf, so we need to be cautious this time.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

I still don't know who the blacksmith is giving guns to. :( Sadly it is not me.

Ur dead if you get a gun try to shoot and got witched to yourself. Fool.

[FM Yosemite Sam]

I was referring to the Framer in the setup.
Did you miss me calling him scum before you revealed?

Framer got juked this night,don't worry.

[FM Agahnim]

Framer got juked this night,don't worry.

If we can, hopefully, wind up getting this lynch to be a Framer lynch it'll be a relief off my shoulder.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

We already had a bad case wih Gandalf, so we need to be cautious this time.

I still curse Gandalf.

I'm Doctor.

[FM Agahnim]

FM Pinkie Pie

[FM Agahnim]

I still curse Gandalf.

I'm Doctor.

Interesting.
Revealing after a couple of votes like this is rather anti-town imo.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Interesting.
Revealing after a couple of votes like this is rather anti-town imo.

Anti-town? Better reveal early than late. Since the mess Gandalf did.

[FM Wolverine]

Time to get the party starting, I wasn't witched tonight and found a mafia.

FM Pinkie Pie

Go go choo train.

I know Pinkie has been acting a bit scummy lately, but we did just lynch a citizen, so... Anyone want to weigh in on the likelihood that the framer struck gold twice in a row?

It also seems odd that the witch left you alone last night. Was anyone else witched?

[FM Pinkie Pie]

And Yosemite and Indiana should have their vests by now.

[FM Sherlock]

Now I really want to stick with jail plan.

What wss the order of your healing actions?

[FM Agahnim]

Anti-town? Better reveal early than late. Since the mess Gandalf did.

But his late "reveal" - after tons of votes on him - can be used to scum hunt while this bit cannot.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

But his late "reveal" - after tons of votes on him - can be used to scum hunt while this bit cannot.

I think his plan was only to save his own ass. Not sincere. If it was, he would have told us before he was hammered.

[FM Yosemite Sam]

I know Pinkie has been acting a bit scummy lately, but we did just lynch a citizen, so... Anyone want to weigh in on the likelihood that the framer struck gold twice in a row?

It also seems odd that the witch left you alone last night. Was anyone else witched?

don't try to defend that scum ;/ Either JAIL or execute for more accurate info. But don't let him live,unless proven to be framed.I bet he himself is the framer.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Now I really want to stick with jail plan.

What wss the order of your healing actions?

Yosemite N1, Indiana N2. Plan was

Double doctor heal Yosemite + vest to Yosemite
Double doctor heal Indiana + vest to Indiana, Yosemite vest up

[FM Agahnim]

I think his plan was only to save his own ass. Not sincere. If it was, he would have told us before he was hammered.

His main goal was to survive the day and die to a scum hit.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Yosemite N1, Indiana N2. Plan was

Double doctor heal Yosemite + vest to Yosemite
Double doctor heal Indiana + vest to Indiana, Yosemite vest up

Never mind. No vest was given to Sheriff... what is blacksmith doing...

[FM Pinkie Pie]

His main goal was to survive the day and die to a scum hit.

You mean a vigilante hit.

[FM Agahnim]

Yosemite N1, Indiana N2. Plan was

Double doctor heal Yosemite + vest to Yosemite
Double doctor heal Indiana + vest to Indiana, Yosemite vest up

What the hell are you talking about?

[FM Yosemite Sam]

Yosemite N1, Indiana N2. Plan was

Double doctor heal Yosemite + vest to Yosemite
Double doctor heal Indiana + vest to Indiana, Yosemite vest up

You have always provoked my posts,and in Day 1 you started lynching me,claiming me is evil. Either you are a bad doctor,or a fail Consig/Framer. Framed me and claim im evil? Has Logic.

[FM Yosemite Sam]

I remember you also lynching Robin HOod out of the blue,instead of following my lead...

[FM Pinkie Pie]

I was healing Yosemite N1. Obvious choice. Was hoping that another doctor will also heal Yosemite to prevent SK+ Mafia attack, in the meantime blacksmith give Yosemite a vest.

Since Yosemite should have a vest yesterday, and should be vesting up N2. Healed Indiana N2. Supposedly another doctor should also heal him and blacksmith will give him a vest. Indiana IS SHERIFF because no counter claim. Scum shouldn't be attacking Yosemite for fear of vest.

[FM Cookie Monster]

The SK prolly attacked one of the abstainers from yesterdays lynch. Someone like Lucutus.
Or the SK found a mafia

[FM Yosemite Sam]

If he is to flip Consig, at least we know that Robin might be something evil.

[FM Wolverine]

don't try to defend that scum ;/ Either JAIL or execute for more accurate info. But don't let him live,unless proven to be framed.I bet he himself is the framer.

Jailing might not be a bad idea. The Jailor hasn't seen any action yet this game. Could also serve to protect Pinkie if he really is a doctor.

And before we do anything too hasty, I think we should wait for a report from our other claimed sheriff. If he got another guilty result then we know at least one of the two must be scum (since there is only one framer). If not, then our choice is whether we gain more by lynching Pinkie or by allowing jailor to jail him.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

You have always provoked my posts,and in Day 1 you started lynching me,claiming me is evil. Either you are a bad doctor,or a fail Consig/Framer. Framed me and claim im evil? Has Logic.

I claimed that you were guilty (for not posting).


I remember you also lynching Robin HOod out of the blue,instead of following my lead...

Did you even read Day 1? I voted you and Robin Hood BEFORE YOU ROLECLAIMED!

[FM Yosemite Sam]

I claimed that you were guilty (for not posting).



Did you even read Day 1? I voted you and Robin Hood BEFORE YOU ROLECLAIMED!

Seems legit.

[FM Yosemite Sam]

Jailing might not be a bad idea. The Jailor hasn't seen any action yet this game. Could also serve to protect Pinkie if he really is a doctor.

And before we do anything too hasty, I think we should wait for a report from our other claimed sheriff. If he got another guilty result then we know at least one of the two must be scum (since there is only one framer). If not, then our choice is whether we gain more by lynching Pinkie or by allowing jailor to jail him.

Seems also legit

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Anti-town? Better reveal early than late. Since the mess Gandalf did.

I think any scum will claim doctor since there are two of them and it causes town to pause a moment before lynching.

For the likelihood of you being framed, I consider it plausible I guess...

But didn't this game have a night start? A legit doctor should have night 1, 2, and 3 action claims. You're definitely not a doctor; I'm just not sure if you're a citizen pulling the same thing as Gandalf or if you're fail scum... Possibly a mafioso that didn't perform some actions so you don't know how many nights we had? Not sure. Please explain yourself.

FM Pinkie Pie

[FM Cookie Monster]

Yosemite N1, Indiana N2. Plan was

Double doctor heal Yosemite + vest to Yosemite
Double doctor heal Indiana + vest to Indiana, Yosemite vest up
HA! Night 1 Was BEFORE day 1
Therefore you should have done THREE HEALS

[FM Cookie Monster]

I think any scum will claim doctor since there are two of them and it causes town to pause a moment before lynching.

For the likelihood of you being framed, I consider it plausible I guess...

But didn't this game have a night start? A legit doctor should have night 1, 2, and 3 action claims. You're definitely not a doctor; I'm just not sure if you're a citizen pulling the same thing as Gandalf or if you're fail scum... Possibly a mafioso that didn't perform some actions so you don't know how many nights we had? Not sure. Please explain yourself.

FM Pinkie Pie
.. you beat me to it

[FM Cookie Monster]

FM Pinkie Pie

[FM Cookie Monster]

Also Count MAY be wifoming.. if you look at his posts..

[FM Yosemite Sam]

HA! Night 1 Was BEFORE day 1
Therefore you should have done THREE HEALS

GG EAZY.

[FM Yosemite Sam]

Either Framer or Consig I think,more of a framer.

[FM Locutus]

Nothing happened to me last night.
Going to bed. I may not be as available in the next few days but I will keep posting when I can.
Lynch is 18 votes (sorta). Don't get over hyper and lynch before we get all feedback.

[FM Ceasar]

Okay, let’s take a step-back and have a look at the setup. The thing which works hugely against that mafia is that they are insanely outnumbered, and we have a completely open-setup. Despite the unfortunate event with Indiana and Gandalf yesterday, we still have to assume that Indiana is a confirmed Sheriff along with Sam since Indiana has not been CCed. However, the thing which works hugely in scums favour is the fact that with so many citizens, they have a ton of places to hide. Additionally, the open setup can work in scums favour since they know the exact number of healing roles. The moment 2 doctors appear in the graveyard, it's pretty much open season for Sheriff killing. This also means that as long as even one or two scum can get booted up into extremely-likely-town positions, they can potentially win the game by outlasting all the other players in the long haul. This sort of thinking would explain Mafia’s kill choices, seeing how Mr. Bunny was a total lurker no one would expect to get targeted. However, being a lurker caused him his chances of being a doctor to be quite high, and that is why I presume that he was indeed hit by the mafia. The sooner the Doctors die, the sooner the Sheriffs die. From there, the mafia can sweep up the Sheriffs confirmed townies as well as any remaining Town PRs.

I believe that this may very well be a large part of mafia's plan. If there is one very valuable scum-hunting thing that I have previously learned, it is that if you start to understand the way scum is thinking, your ability to accurately scum-hunt improves dramatically. Now let’s have a look at Frankenstein. He was an uber huge lurker. That pretty much sums him up. He contributed next to nothing during the daytime. However, he hadn’t done anything that scummy other than lurk. This is pretty traditional play by a Doctor. For this reason, I believe that there is a strong possibility that Frankenstein was in fact shot by scum. He is nowhere near townie enough for killing him to be completely unjustified, yet there is a fairly large possibility for scum to benefit from his death. While Pinkie Pie seems like the best lynch for today, I believe that we should look back into the missing gun tomorrow, as that could very well lead us to scum.

[FM Ceasar]

FM Pinkie Pie

[FM Pinkie Pie]

But didn't this game have a night start? A legit doctor should have night 1, 2, and 3 action claims. You're definitely not a doctor; I'm just not sure if you're a citizen pulling the same thing as Gandalf or if you're fail scum... Possibly a mafioso that didn't perform some actions so you don't know how many nights we had? Not sure. Please explain yourself.


Hater :mad:

[FM Agahnim]

Okay, let’s take a step-back and have a look at the setup. The thing which works hugely against that mafia is that they are insanely outnumbered, and we have a completely open-setup. Despite the unfortunate event with Indiana and Gandalf yesterday, we still have to assume that Indiana is a confirmed Sheriff along with Sam since Indiana has not been CCed. However, the thing which works hugely in scums favour is the fact that with so many citizens, they have a ton of places to hide. Additionally, the open setup can work in scums favour since they know the exact number of healing roles. The moment 2 doctors appear in the graveyard, it's pretty much open season for Sheriff killing. This also means that as long as even one or two scum can get booted up into extremely-likely-town positions, they can potentially win the game by outlasting all the other players in the long haul. This sort of thinking would explain Mafia’s kill choices, seeing how Mr. Bunny was a total lurker no one would expect to get targeted. However, being a lurker caused him his chances of being a doctor to be quite high, and that is why I presume that he was indeed hit by the mafia. The sooner the Doctors die, the sooner the Sheriffs die. From there, the mafia can sweep up the Sheriffs confirmed townies as well as any remaining Town PRs.

I believe that this may very well be a large part of mafia's plan. If there is one very valuable scum-hunting thing that I have previously learned, it is that if you start to understand the way scum is thinking, your ability to accurately scum-hunt improves dramatically. Now let’s have a look at Frankenstein. He was an uber huge lurker. That pretty much sums him up. He contributed next to nothing during the daytime. However, he hadn’t done anything that scummy other than lurk. This is pretty traditional play by a Doctor. For this reason, I believe that there is a strong possibility that Frankenstein was in fact shot by scum. He is nowhere near townie enough for killing him to be completely unjustified, yet there is a fairly large possibility for scum to benefit from his death. While Pinkie Pie seems like the best lynch for today, I believe that we should look back into the missing gun tomorrow, as that could very well lead us to scum.

I shot Frankenstein last night with the Blacksmith gun

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Since my plan failed. Lemme go prepare last wills. Don't end the day early.

I'm Citizen. Forgot there is N0.

Vigilante shot or lynch you choose.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

I shot Frankenstein last night with the Blacksmith gun

You understand that Franky misvoted Gandalf to act scummy? Why not shoot those conformers scum.

[FM Agahnim]

Since my plan failed. Lemme go prepare last wills. Don't end the day early.

I'm Citizen. Forgot there is N0.

Vigilante shot or lynch you choose.

Isn't there no Last Wills in the setup :huh:

[FM Animal]

Since my plan failed. Lemme go prepare last wills. Don't end the day early.

I'm Citizen. Forgot there is N0.

Vigilante shot or lynch you choose.

No last wills in this gamemode.

He is still my most suspicious jester, so I suggest we let the jailor perform his action and eliminate PP another way.

[FM Animal]

FM Pinkie Pie

[FM Pinkie Pie]

I don't think I would need to say that I'm framed. Pretty obvious already.

[FM Cookie Monster]

No last wills in this gamemode.

He is still my most suspicious jester, so I suggest we let the jailor perform his action and eliminate PP another way.

*facepalms*
Scums everywhere

[FM Pinkie Pie]

No last wills in this gamemode.

He is still my most suspicious jester, so I suggest we let the jailor perform his action and eliminate PP another way.

Erm. No jester.

Last will means half-hearted myopic read, like Gandalf's.

[FM Cookie Monster]

One thing to consider is that since PInkie claimed citizen, lynching him doesn't do much damage to us really. In the long run it will just confuses us more. Seeing what he flips is really beneficial.
Although I agree that pinkie is a pretty good frame target.......

[FM Wolverine]

FM Pinkie Pie

This is a pre-emptive vote. I don't actually want to lynch until we've heard from Indiana. If nothing else, he can confirm someone as town. And if he found scum, then we can be sure that at LEAST one of the sheriff targets is scum since there is only one framer.

[FM Ceasar]

I shot Frankenstein last night with the Blacksmith gun

Why are you only now claiming that?

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Why are you only now claiming that?

Since someone said they should hunt for doctor hunters, and Franky seemed like a doctor...

[FM Animal]

Erm. No jester.

Last will means half-hearted myopic read, like Gandalf's.

Go to setup/OoO, read role list please.

[FM Agahnim]

Why are you only now claiming that?

I wanted to WIFOM as a Blacksmith to draw scums attention to kill me.
Since you said we should look into it to find a scum I figured that it would be better to get it out and in the open rather than hide and confuse town later


Since someone said they should hunt for doctor hunters, and Franky seemed like a doctor...

Are you retarded or something? This makes no sense

[FM Ceasar]

I wanted to WIFOM as a Blacksmith to draw scums attention to kill me.
Since you said we should look into it to find a scum I figured that it would be better to get it out and in the open rather than hide and confuse town later


Oops, sorry for ruining WIFOM:(

[FM Agahnim]

No biggie

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Since you said we should look into it to find a scum I figured that it would be better to get it out and in the open rather than hide and confuse town later



Since someone said they should hunt for doctor hunters, and Franky seemed like a doctor...

What is so different between your post and mine?

[FM Animal]

Well I'm off for tonight; Please don't lynch him immediately. Does jester show up scum or was he blessed with a lucky frame?

[FM Agahnim]

What is so different between your post and mine?

Mine makes sense and has logic in it, imo.
Yours has no logic in it and looks, to me, to be a ditch effort to make someone else look like scum.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Go to setup/OoO, read role list please.

There are less than 50 players. So no jester.




Role list:
1-Citizen
2-Citizen
3-Citizen
4-Sheriff
5-Mafioso
6-Citizen: FM Col Jack ONeill - Killed by the Mafia
7-Citizen
8-Citizen
9-Doctor
10-GodFather
11-Citizen
12-Citizen
13-Citizen
14-Vigilante
15-Consort: FM Watson - Killed by the town
16-Citizen
17-Citizen
18-Citizen: FM Frankenstein - Killed by a gun man.
19-Escort
20-Serial Killer
21-Citizen: FM Bridge Keeper - Killed by the Vigilante
22-Citizen
23-Citizen
24-Blacksmith
25-Consigliere
26-Citizen
27-Citizen
28-Citizen
29-Doctor
30-Framer
31-Citizen: FM Yehat - Killed by the Mafia
32-Citizen: FM Mr Bunny - Killed by the Mafia
33-Citizen
34-Sheriff
35-Witch
36-Citizen: FM Gandalf - Killed by an angry town mob.
37-Citizen
38-Citizen: FM The Terminator - Killed by the SK
39-Jailor
40-Mafioso
41-Citizen
42-Citizen

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Also Count MAY be wifoming.. if you look at his posts..


FM Pinkie Pie


.. you beat me to it


HA! Night 1 Was BEFORE day 1
Therefore you should have done THREE HEALS

That quadruple post is redundant and spammy. It's not like we even have a post count in here... Also, I have a gut scum read on you.

My case on FM Cookie Monster

Day 1 #209

Oh and
To the Vigilante
I propose the plan to shoot the least contributive person/lurker every night
What do you guys think about this? For me, I think the Vigilante should always aim for lurkers first before shooting any not-really-confirmed-scum. Confirmed scum>Lurkers>Suspected scum. IMO. The jailor should more or less to the same.
Lurking Citizen=Deadweight=Wasting discussion time and town PR actions, especially that we have so few town PR.

I find this post interesting because FM Cookie Monster is directing the vigilante. While lurking town remains an enigma to the town, lurking town also remains an enigma to the mafia. Presumably mafia thinks that PR's may be hiding amongst the lurkers, evidenced by mafia killing two lurkers (Bunny and Yehat) on nights 1 and 2, looking for PR's.

Day 2 #14

I wasn't the hammer, he was already hammered and I just piled up my vote on him since it WAS 41 to lynch

I find this post suspicious because if FM Watson was already hammered, what is the purpose of piling additional votes on him if not to end up on the "final list" of people who voted FM Watson so cookie monster later could say "Hey I voted to lynch the consort, I can't be scum!" Not sure what the town motivation is to add votes to an already hammered guy, whereas scum can use it to hide.

Day 2 #48

01- FM Agahnim
02- FM Animal
03- FM Anubis
04- FM Batman
05- FM Bridge Keeper
06- FM Captain Obvious
07- FM Ceasar
08- FM Col Jack ONeill
09- FM Cookie Monster
10- FM Count von Count
11- FM Dracula
12- FM Frankenstein
13- FM Gandalf
14- FM Gimli
15- FM Hamburglar
16- FM Hungry
17- FM Indiana Jones
18- FM Inspector Cluseau
19- FM Jack Sparrow
20- FM Kermit
21- FM King Arthur
22- FM King Tut
23- FM Locutus
24- FM Lone Ranger
25- FM Master Chef
26- FM Michigan J Frog
27- FM Mr Bunny
28- FM Mr T
29- FM Pinkie Pie
30- FM Prince Thrakhath
31- FM Robin Hood
32- FM Rubber Ducky
33- FM Sherlock
34- FM SpongeBob
35- FM The Joker
36- FM The Terminator
37- FM Watson
38- FM Wile E Coyote
39- FM Wolverine
40- FM Yehat
41- FM Yoda
42- FM Yosemite Sam

GREEN=VOTED

I just copy pasted from the Day 2 thread and the coloring wasn't preserved. However, FM cookie monster makes a list marking all names green who voted to lynch Watson the consort. I note particularly that FM cookie monster puts himself as green even though he technically wasn't truly part of that lynch train since he voted AFTER Watson was lynched. This is just a subtle way that I feel FM cookie monster is manipulating his post-hammer vote on Watson to appear more town-y.

Day 2, #351

Why? If you are town it would just help us

It's not like at this point you can expect to live, killing you will give town so much info that we can't possibly not lynch you

I don't like how cookie monster is using hyperbole to push the Gandalf lynch. I'd hardly call Gandalf's flip "so much info that we can't possibly not lynch" him. I just think that Cookie monster was pushing too hard for a lynch based on the framed sheriff results.

Day 3, #60

-vote FM Kermit

Yeah... shouldn't need much explaining by now

My suspicions on Kermit have been due to his behavior, but I'm not sure I sense a town or scum motivation behind Kermit's activities. He's actually kind of developing into a null leaning town read for me atm because of the mafia's N1 and N2 preference to kill lurkers. In any case, I think there are far more suspicious people than Kermit out here, and FM Cookie Monster's focus on Kermit seems like a throwaway vote by scum, attacking some guy who seems moderately lurky and an easy target. If Cookie Monster has a case on Kermit, I'd really like to see it.

Day 3 #132

Or the SK found a mafia

This is a bit interesting to me. If Cookie Monster was the guy attacked by the SK last night, he's telling the SK that he is a mafia member. In the context of all of Cookie Monster's behavior, I wouldn't be surprised if this is actually the case.

Strong FoS on Cookie Monster.

[FM Agahnim]

Well I'm off for tonight; Please don't lynch him immediately. Does jester show up scum or was he blessed with a lucky frame?


Will Jester only be in the game if 50 is met?


That is correct.

:|

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Mine makes sense and has logic in it, imo.
Yours has no logic in it and looks, to me, to be a ditch effort to make someone else look like scum.


Now let’s have a look at Frankenstein. He was an uber huge lurker. That pretty much sums him up. He contributed next to nothing during the daytime. However, he hadn’t done anything that scummy other than lurk. This is pretty traditional play by a Doctor. For this reason, I believe that there is a strong possibility that Frankenstein was in fact shot by scum.

I'm just repeating what Ceaser said.

You make me sad that players like you will live on.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

I'm just repeating what Ceaser said.

You make me sad that players like you will live on.

My original post was in fact poking fun of Ceaser asking obvious question why you revealed.

[FM Ceasar]

Yeah Told u i would kill him didn't i? Thanks for scum keeping eleminating everyone who goes on my nerves. I really appreciate it!

Let's wait for our sheriffs to guide us through the next day. All in all this is just another standard setup where TPR will guide us to victory through their night actions.


How many scum were on the lynch train on Gandalf last day what do you expect? I must admit his flip flopping around. from cit to doc wifom let him appear scummy to me. What exactly did we gain through his lynch?

Suggestions plz.



nothing happened to me last night.

Funny how you have a capital letter for both of your first 2 opening words:P

[FM Agahnim]

I'm just repeating what Ceaser said.

You make me sad that players like you will live on.

:|

So yes. You are retarded. Good to know.

[FM The Joker]

Last night, hurt. I'm reading up on the info. 1 Sec.

[FM The Joker]

I feel that if we should lynch anyone, master chief should be top priority, I am however not 100% convinced of him, yet. So for right now I will not vote him up.

[FM Jack Sparrow]

I don't know guys. I bet he was framed. N2 Gandalf was framed he was an extremely polarizing target and not a lurker. He was an Alien Day 2 and Day 3. So he was framed.

Now on N3 who would you possibly frame? Not me, because they killed Jack O Neil to killframe me. That's why the Caesar salad tried to pick that up again today.

So who did they frame last night? The other more or less scummy alien named FM Pinkie Pie i guess.

What exactly can we learn out of this?

Mafia: Thinks being one the extreme side is bad. Aka Super lurk mode and being super active in day chat are a no go for them at least for the smarter members in their team.
This automaticly implies to me that the majority of the mafia is active in day chat but tries to not polarize that much.

Like: Captain Obvious, Locutus, Willie E. Coyote, Caesar Salad.

Also the classical lurker scum. That Hobbit guy. All he does is silly posts about how he has no time. Batman is a good serial killer/witch candidate as well. Oh well..

This is just my humble opinion though.

[FM Jack Sparrow]

Fm Aghamin and J Frog. Your thoughts to those guys please?

[FM Cookie Monster]

@Frog
I don't even understand how those 4 posts are spam
The first one you quoted means something. READ IT
The second was a vote..
The third was meaningless, but not spam
The fourth DOES mean something

I directed the vigilante to shoot lurkers because scum tends to hide among lurkers and lurkers rarely contribute at all. Sure PR might be lurking too, but mostly lurkers just give a place for scum to hide
I never mentioned "I lynched the consort so I can't be mafia", I myself said that the statement is a stupid excuse, read day2. It was directed at Inspector
I have mentioned Kermit a few times, if you are gonna analyze my posts. Analyze it all please. I made a reason in a coloured post day 2, shouldn't be too hard to find. Also I don't see that anyone possibly could not know why I think Kermit is scum

For that last quote, it was because I previously mentioned that the SK is possibly AFK during the night and had told FM GM. I forgot to mention that the SK could have probably find another scum

[FM Jack Sparrow]

Also the chances that Mr. Watson and Sherlock are both scum together are pretty low. Just out of a mathematical aspect.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

For that last quote, it was because I previously mentioned that the SK is possibly AFK during the night and had told FM GM. I forgot to mention that the SK could have probably find another scum

I feel you. I raised that point and they called me scum.

[FM Agahnim]

Fm Aghamin and J Frog. Your thoughts to those guys please?

Are you asking for our opinions on Captain Obvious, Locutus, Willie E. Coyote, Caesar Salad <--- these people

Or asking others on thoughts towards Aghamin and J Frog <--- these people?


If the 1st.

The thought had crossed my mind that Captain Obvious, Willie E. Coyote, are scum aligned based on their general active lurking

However I feel as if Locutus and Caesar are town.

[FM Cookie Monster]

I feel you. I raised that point and they called me scum.

Wat? Where? I guess I missed it.......

[FM Ceasar]

Also the chances that Mr. Watson and Sherlock are both scum together are pretty low. Just out of a mathematical aspect.

What are you talking about? Names + roles are completely randomized. Saying that because Watson was mafia that Sherlock must be town is the dumbest argument I've ever heard.

[FM Cookie Monster]

Also Frog, Someone asked who voted and who doesn't. So I did that.

[FM Cookie Monster]

What are you talking about? Names + roles are completely randomized. Saying that because Watson was mafia that Sherlock must be town is the dumbest argument I've ever heard.

He said mathematical aspect. I don't think it means the names..

[FM Jack Sparrow]

What about Batman, Hamburglar and King Tard? Why do we have to get ridd of all cits first before we find the real scum?

[FM Pinkie Pie]

@Aghanim

By the way, I thought we are at the same side during Day1. Aren't you pro-hypo and I'm fighting hard against Gandalf, Watson, Mr. T and Locust. How was I not logical again? Can you please elaborate?

On Day2 I'm sarcastic with Gandalf and maybe you can't understand my points so fine. Most of them don't.

But YOU. YOU! How can you say that I'm posting bare boned info and not contributing. You are not that active Day2 either.

@Frog

Ur reading it too deeply. Cookie is suspicious but not for the points you raised.

[FM Jack Sparrow]

What are you talking about? Names + roles are completely randomized. Saying that because Watson was mafia that Sherlock must be town is the dumbest argument I've ever heard.

If we would record your posts via voice and would torture you with it. THAT would be the dumbest thing you ever heard. ;)

[FM Cookie Monster]

What about Batman, Hamburglar and King Tard? Why do we have to get ridd of all cits first before we find the real scum?

We don't. We are merely suspecting the lurkers. And obviously most of them are cits

[FM Pinkie Pie]

What are you talking about? Names + roles are completely randomized. Saying that because Watson was mafia that Sherlock must be town is the dumbest argument I've ever heard.

Remember that Sherlock derped by opting for Yosemite's plan to get shot at night. And offering to get jailed.

Totally unlikely to be witch. And remember he voted for "scum" Gandalf. Witch won't do that.

[FM Cookie Monster]

Also, Pinkie's attitude change slightly. IMO he was more aggresive before the Yosemite says that he is mafia

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Also, Pinkie's attitude change slightly. IMO he was more aggresive before the Yosemite says that he is mafia

I didn't notice that?

Maybe cause I'm as good as dead. My inner fire extinguished. And my accuser (Aghanim not Yosemite) was away.

I should be already dead yesterday night anyway... :P

I you remember I said if Saruman is not mafia... kill me.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

I don't know guys. I bet he was framed. N2 Gandalf was framed he was an extremely polarizing target and not a lurker. He was an Alien Day 2 and Day 3. So he was framed.

Now on N3 who would you possibly frame? Not me, because they killed Jack O Neil to killframe me. That's why the Caesar salad tried to pick that up again today.

So who did they frame last night? The other more or less scummy alien named FM Pinkie Pie i guess.

What exactly can we learn out of this?

Mafia: Thinks being one the extreme side is bad. Aka Super lurk mode and being super active in day chat are a no go for them at least for the smarter members in their team.
This automaticly implies to me that the majority of the mafia is active in day chat but tries to not polarize that much.

Like: Captain Obvious, Locutus, Willie E. Coyote, Caesar Salad.

Also the classical lurker scum. That Hobbit guy. All he does is silly posts about how he has no time. Batman is a good serial killer/witch candidate as well. Oh well..

This is just my humble opinion though.

I see what you're saying, and that's an interesting argument. But I don't think that mafia will frame polarizing players - it just seems like if they framed they would frame off of Gandalf's list of reads (Pinkie Pie and Batman as mafia, Jack Sparrow sk). Based on that, it's not implausible that Pinkie could have been framed, but I'm a little baffled by her fail doctor claim. I don't think it's pro-town to lie about being doctor because people can sense when you're trying to lie and if exposed it ruins your credibility. In a setup where town has so many extra citizens, there's really no incentive to lie because it just gives mafia more information about who gets uncomfortable when there are too many doctor claims -> doctor hunting info. I guess based on Gandalf's reads, I think we should lynch Pinkie Pie, and if she flips mafia then someone can shoot Batman based on the connection Gandalf pointed out.

About the other guys, I don't read anything particularly scummy from Captain Obvious or Wile E Coyote, but I could buy Locutus or Ceasar as scum. Interesting to note that Gandalf also had Cookie Monster on his potential mafia list. I'll try to read more on Locutus and Master Chef since they've been a bit slipping under my radar.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

@Frog

Ur reading it too deeply. Cookie is suspicious but not for the points you raised.

Can you please explain?

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Can you please explain?

After I finish my report for work. I need time to dig up d1 posts.

[FM Jack Sparrow]

So do we want to roleblock the Jailor again today? Or do we actually let that role work?

[FM Agahnim]

So do we want to roleblock the Jailor again today? Or do we actually let that role work?

I asked this question earlier and got no response.
Bloody bastards ignoring me T.T

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Can you please explain?

Derp. I mixed up Cookie with Master Chef... Cookie is not acting suspicious.

By they way, Cookie did vote Watson. Is think he is the last person who voted before the The Godfather auto-locked the thread.

So I disagree with your observation.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

I asked this question earlier and got no response.
Bloody bastards ignoring me T.T

Please REPLY to my questions. Since I'm dying today, I have the right to answers! Talk!

[FM Pinkie Pie]

FM Pinkie Pie

This is a pre-emptive vote. I don't actually want to lynch until we've heard from Indiana. If nothing else, he can confirm someone as town. And if he found scum, then we can be sure that at LEAST one of the sheriff targets is scum since there is only one framer.

WHAT IS PRE-EMPTIVE VOTE?

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Derp. I mixed up Cookie with Master Chef... Cookie is not acting suspicious.

By they way, Cookie did vote Watson. Is think he is the last person who voted before the The Godfather auto-locked the thread.

So I disagree with your observation.

One of the reasons why I think Cookie is exactly this. He is suspicious because he post-hammer voted and then posted a list saying that he was one of the people on Watson's train. It seems like distortion of the truth because a post hammer vote doesn't mean anything since it doesn't contribute to the lynch. It's just a good way to appear townie to players who didn't realize that Cookie's vote was post-hammer.

Anyway, I'd rather lynch Pinkie today so we have his role information and can infer things about Batman and Cookie Monster, but if the general consensus is that people would rather let him get shot by the vigilante so the jailor can do his job that's fine too.

[FM Cookie Monster]

@Frog mind telling me why did you make a post saying you FoS me heavily, and then leaves without even commenting on my response?

[FM Agahnim]

@Aghanim

By the way, I thought we are at the same side during Day1. Aren't you pro-hypo and I'm fighting hard against Gandalf, Watson, Mr. T and Locust. How was I not logical again? Can you please elaborate?

On Day2 I'm sarcastic with Gandalf and maybe you can't understand my points so fine. Most of them don't.

But YOU. YOU! How can you say that I'm posting bare boned info and not contributing. You are not that active Day2 either.

The stance of Pro/Anti - Hypo has no regards upon your scumminess or innocence.
You did not lynch the sheriff call out on d1 and yet you follow the second one gladly. <-- to this you claim bad timezones. (Complete bollocks btw. you had the time to place a vote onto Robin Hood.)
I spent the better part of d2 coming up with a good solid reason for why Gandalf was town and offering a logical and well wrapped explanation of why Gandalf was a bad lynch and what his role most likely was. I then, or before I forget, offered another choice of lynch target which would have, imo, helped town much more than Gandalf's lynch.

All you have offered are weak scum-hunting in regards to SK

[FM Pinkie Pie]

One of the reasons why I think Cookie is exactly this. He is suspicious because he post-hammer voted and then posted a list saying that he was one of the people on Watson's train. It seems like distortion of the truth because a post hammer vote doesn't mean anything since it doesn't contribute to the lynch. It's just a good way to appear townie to players who didn't realize that Cookie's vote was post-hammer.

I don't think you are aware of how the voting system works...

Example:

Yayap set lynch = x, timer 24 hours. With x = number of players.
lynch = x/2 rounded up after timer expires.

Players voted. x/2 reached. Still no lynch because lynch = x. Cookie voted. Timer ends. Lynch = x/2. Watson lynched.

So your example cannot be used as evidence.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

You did not lynch the sheriff call out on d1 and yet you follow the second one gladly. <-- to this you claim bad timezones. (Complete bollocks btw. you had the time to place a vote onto Robin Hood.)

All you have offered are weak scum-hunting in regards to SK


Pinkie Pie randoms SK suspect Yosemite #384


How I wish there is a Coroner.

This player is guilty.

-vote FM Yosemite Sam

Aghanim vote Robin Hood #412


-vote FM Robin Hood


I believe this vote is a better choice than the "gut" read based upon the wall of text presented and the summary which followed it.
More time taken = more likely real lead. imo

Pinkie Pie trains #414


I am a pony. Neigh neigh.

-vote FM Robin Hood

Yosemite claims #467


Sorry for my late posts,had a busy day,anyway I'm Sheriff and I got a clue.

I found a member of the mafia,framing that target out of other 30+ targets sounds silly. So I'll just go ahead and reveal who appeared as mafia last night:
-vote FM Watson


Those who claimed that I'm voting a Sheriff, voting someone else after Sheriff reveal are lying or plain lazy to read.



I spent the better part of d2 coming up with a good solid reason for why Gandalf was town and offering a logical and well wrapped explanation of why Gandalf was a bad lynch and what his role most likely was. I then, or before I forget, offered another choice of lynch target which would have, imo, helped town much more than Gandalf's lynch.

Fine with your first half of D2. I agree you have a point.

But if you still think Gandalf is innocent after his doctor claims and reads you are suspicious. I don't and I pushed for his lynch hard.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

@Frog
I don't even understand how those 4 posts are spam
The first one you quoted means something. READ IT
The second was a vote..
The third was meaningless, but not spam
The fourth DOES mean something

You could have just combined all of that into one post.


I directed the vigilante to shoot lurkers because scum tends to hide among lurkers and lurkers rarely contribute at all. Sure PR might be lurking too, but mostly lurkers just give a place for scum to hide

If scum tends to hide among lurkers, then why is mafia shooting at lurkers? Also, your last point is wrong. I think lurkers provide mislynch and mis-night kill fodder for active scum.


I never mentioned "I lynched the consort so I can't be mafia", I myself said that the statement is a stupid excuse, read day2. It was directed at Inspector

You're refuting an argument that I didn't make. I'm just arguing that your list included you on the list of players on the Watson train which is misleading to people who don't take the time to investigate further on their own. The way in which this act is misleading appears to me to have a lot of scum motivation. Thanks for using the straw-man logical fallacy to refute my point.


I have mentioned Kermit a few times, if you are gonna analyze my posts. Analyze it all please. I made a reason in a coloured post day 2, shouldn't be too hard to find. Also I don't see that anyone possibly could not know why I think Kermit is scum

The only post you made about your "case" against Kermit is:


FM Kermit
Possibility of being scum in my opinion: Mid-High
Reason: Almost all his posts are either RP or very very bad trolling. No posts of value as far as I'm concerned. However, I'm also concerned that because there are no jesters in this game, I doubt that any scum will play that badly, at least not anybody that I've seen. Slight possibility of being important town PR

I find this case bad because you make no link of how RP or trolling or even posting nothing of value means that a player (in this case Kermit) is scum. Additionally, there are other players who post little content who you didn't mention like FM Rubber Ducky so your argument against Kermit is not unique and is too overbroad. It's interesting that he is the only person you "called out." Furthermore, you fallaciously conclude that Kermit is unlikely to be scum because "scum wouldn't play so badly" and end your "case against Kermit" by saying he could even be an important PR. This case is bad, and leaves me confused about why you find Kermit to be scummy.

Presenting bad cases against your FoS targets either means you're terrible at argumentation or you're not taking the time to create your cases. I can find scum motivation behind presenting bad cases because you are offering the illusion of scumhunting while not really doing much at all. This enhances your appearance as an "active townie" who is contributing a lot to the discussion when in reality you are doing very little.


For that last quote, it was because I previously mentioned that the SK is possibly AFK during the night and had told FM GM. I forgot to mention that the SK could have probably find another scum

Fair enough. I just thought in light of my suspicions on you I could view this post with some hidden meaning.

[FM Cookie Monster]

I don't know how I feel about the lynch. I never really find Pinkie all that suspicious back from day1 till now. His reaction to the pressure isn't very good and he slipped while trying to claim Doctor. However at the same time he is also quite a good frame target.

On the plus side even if he turns out to be framed, lynching a citizen doesn't really impact us all that much. And it may even do more good than harm. That's why I'm keeping my vote on Pinkie.
I'll also restate that lynching is better than killing at night because the Town PR's can adjust their actions accordingly.

[FM Hungry]

If pinkie pie is town he would be the most obvious frame target last night. Let's not do the same misstake as last day, we should let the jailor do something tonight.

[FM Agahnim]

Pinkie Pie randoms SK suspect Yosemite #384



Aghanim vote Robin Hood #412


Pinkie Pie trains #414



Yosemite claims #467



Those who claimed that I'm voting a Sheriff, voting someone else after Sheriff reveal are lying or plain lazy to read.



Fine with your first half of D2. I agree you have a point.

But if you still think Gandalf is innocent after his doctor claims and reads you are suspicious. I don't and I pushed for his lynch hard.

Ok.

BTW your behavior here after this sheriff call out is highly suspicious.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

I don't think you are aware of how the voting system works...

Example:

Yayap set lynch = x, timer 24 hours. With x = number of players.
lynch = x/2 rounded up after timer expires.

Players voted. x/2 reached. Still no lynch because lynch = x. Cookie voted. Timer ends. Lynch = x/2. Watson lynched.

So your example cannot be used as evidence.

...You're not even responding to my example. Everyone needs to please stop straw-manning my arguments because it either makes you look incredibly unintelligent or paints you as scum who can't find a better way to respond to pressure.

[FM Hungry]

Im surprised the vigi didn't shoot count von cunt last night. He pretty much lurked all day and only appeared to hammer someone.

[FM Hamburglar]

after reading and analyzing everything I believe the mafia has most people in rather active day chat.

some town are clear to me as the grave though, such as Aghanim.

scumradar:
>90% town
75-90% town
50-50
25-50% town
most likely scum
No Good Read

my list:

01- FM Agahnim
02- FM Animal
03- FM Anubis
04- FM Batman
06- FM Captain Obvious
07- FM Ceasar
09- FM Cookie Monster
10- FM Count von Count
11- FM Dracula
14- FM Gimli
15- FM Hamburglar
16- FM Hungry
17- FM Indiana Jones
18- FM Inspector Cluseau
19- FM Jack Sparrow
20- FM Kermit
21- FM King Arthur
22- FM King Tut
23- FM Locutus
24- FM Lone Ranger
25- FM Master Chef
26- FM Michigan J Frog
28- FM Mr T
29- FM Pinkie Pie
30- FM Prince Thrakhath
31- FM Robin Hood
32- FM Rubber Ducky
33- FM Sherlock
34- FM SpongeBob
35- FM The Joker
38- FM Wile E Coyote
39- FM Wolverine
41- FM Yoda
42- FM Yosemite Sam

Jack is the most recent town member on this list as his active searching out the lurkers for possible scum seems like a town act to me.

thoughts?

[FM Cookie Monster]

You could have just combined all of that into one post.



If scum tends to hide among lurkers, then why is mafia shooting at lurkers? Also, your last point is wrong. I think lurkers provide mislynch and mis-night kill fodder for active scum.



You're refuting an argument that I didn't make. I'm just arguing that your list included you on the list of players on the Watson train which is misleading to people who don't take the time to investigate further on their own. The way in which this act is misleading appears to me to have a lot of scum motivation. Thanks for using the straw-man logical fallacy to refute my point.



The only post you made about your "case" against Kermit is:



I find this case bad because you make no link of how RP or trolling or even posting nothing of value means that a player (in this case Kermit) is scum. Additionally, there are other players who post little content who you didn't mention like FM Rubber Ducky so your argument against Kermit is not unique and is too overbroad. It's interesting that he is the only person you "called out." Furthermore, you fallaciously conclude that Kermit is unlikely to be scum because "scum wouldn't play so badly" and end your "case against Kermit" by saying he could even be an important PR. This case is bad, and leaves me confused about why you find Kermit to be scummy.

Presenting bad cases against your FoS targets either means you're terrible at argumentation or you're not taking the time to create your cases. I can find scum motivation behind presenting bad cases because you are offering the illusion of scumhunting while not really doing much at all. This enhances your appearance as an "active townie" who is contributing a lot to the discussion when in reality you are doing very little.



Fair enough. I just thought in light of my suspicions on you I could view this post with some hidden meaning.
It's the way I post.

You think differently then me, so it seems. But that is no reason to say that my point is wrong. I think that the fact that lurkers provide places for hide outweights the fact that scum would shoot a citizen instead of town PR. Also "I think Lurkers provide mislynches" what does that even mean, mislynches are bad for town. Also, scum really didn't kill lurkers without a reason. Mr.Bunny somehow wifomed doc, which I still think is stupid for scum to actually kill him though. And Col contributed quite a bit and may seem like a PR to the scum. I believe that scum isn't that bad that they will kill lurkers who contribute nothing to the scum hunt.

Somebody whom I forgot their name ( think it was Cluseau? )mentioned that he would like to see a list of people who voted and people who don't. I did so based on what he wanted. If you actually read all of my posts. You will find one where I make a list of the voting order, and I mentioned that myself voted after the hammer.

I didn't mention all of my reasons completely, that was my bad. People who troll and RP as well as active lurk is MUCH MUCH more likely to be scum. I mentioned specifically that he could be town PR so that killing roles will think twice before outright killing him. I don't see how you think that the case is bad, you yourself mentioned that you find Kermit at the top of your scum list for the exact same reason.

[FM Cookie Monster]

after reading and analyzing everything I believe the mafia has most people in rather active day chat.

some town are clear to me as the grave though, such as Aghanim.

scumradar:
>90% town
75-90% town
50-50
25-50% town
most likely scum
No Good Read

my list:

01- FM Agahnim
02- FM Animal
03- FM Anubis
04- FM Batman
06- FM Captain Obvious
07- FM Ceasar
09- FM Cookie Monster
10- FM Count von Count
11- FM Dracula
14- FM Gimli
15- FM Hamburglar
16- FM Hungry
17- FM Indiana Jones
18- FM Inspector Cluseau
19- FM Jack Sparrow
20- FM Kermit
21- FM King Arthur
22- FM King Tut
23- FM Locutus
24- FM Lone Ranger
25- FM Master Chef
26- FM Michigan J Frog
28- FM Mr T
29- FM Pinkie Pie
30- FM Prince Thrakhath
31- FM Robin Hood
32- FM Rubber Ducky
33- FM Sherlock
34- FM SpongeBob
35- FM The Joker
38- FM Wile E Coyote
39- FM Wolverine
41- FM Yoda
42- FM Yosemite Sam

Jack is the most recent town member on this list as his active searching out the lurkers for possible scum seems like a town act to me.

thoughts?

Mentioning who you think is scum and who is not doesn't really do much of anything.
You need to mention the BASIS and REASONS behind those. It looks like you are attempting to scum hunt without actually doing much as we can't really find a scum from what you have posted.

Oh and to Frog, this is what I consider as "This enhances your appearance as an "active townie" who is contributing a lot to the discussion when in reality you are doing very little."

[FM Agahnim]

after reading and analyzing everything I believe the mafia has most people in rather active day chat.

some town are clear to me as the grave though, such as Aghanim.

scumradar:
>90% town
75-90% town
50-50
25-50% town
most likely scum
No Good Read

my list:

01- FM Agahnim
02- FM Animal
03- FM Anubis
04- FM Batman
06- FM Captain Obvious
07- FM Ceasar
09- FM Cookie Monster
10- FM Count von Count
11- FM Dracula
14- FM Gimli
15- FM Hamburglar
16- FM Hungry
17- FM Indiana Jones
18- FM Inspector Cluseau
19- FM Jack Sparrow
20- FM Kermit
21- FM King Arthur
22- FM King Tut
23- FM Locutus
24- FM Lone Ranger
25- FM Master Chef
26- FM Michigan J Frog
28- FM Mr T
29- FM Pinkie Pie
30- FM Prince Thrakhath
31- FM Robin Hood
32- FM Rubber Ducky
33- FM Sherlock
34- FM SpongeBob
35- FM The Joker
38- FM Wile E Coyote
39- FM Wolverine
41- FM Yoda
42- FM Yosemite Sam

Jack is the most recent town member on this list as his active searching out the lurkers for possible scum seems like a town act to me.

thoughts?

Not to knock down your list mate but this reads to me as I have no idea who is who expect for the people who post the most and mos frequent.

[FM Cookie Monster]

Not to knock down your list mate but this reads to me as I have no idea who is who expect for the people who post the most and mos frequent.

This is also based on the evidence of what other people have provided and little of what Hambulglar himself provides

[FM Pinkie Pie]

This is also based on the evidence of what other people have provided and little of what Hambulglar himself provides

The conformity list. I second your opinion. Established scum will have an easy time. Listen to the leader! Herp derp.

Our sheriffs should really post more...

[FM Cookie Monster]

Pinkie I would like to know your reason behind claiming Doctor

[FM Agahnim]

Pinkie I would like to know your reason behind claiming Doctor

Please

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Pinkie I would like to know your reason behind claiming Doctor

Gandalf acted all scummy while claiming doctor - his reads and timing. Didn't give us any real reads before he died.

Thought I could do better.

[FM Cookie Monster]

Gandalf acted all scummy while claiming doctor - his reads and timing. Didn't give us any real reads before he died.

Thought I could do better.

.................................................. .
That wasn't a valid reason as far as I'm concerned

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Please

If you want to know more, yes I will still die later. But if I die I can still lol at him at graveyard.

[FM Jack Sparrow]

This sounds funny but irrational. I have to think about this and reread all your posts so far in correlation. But then again.. I am a lazy son of a bitch....

Hm..

[FM Michigan J Frog]

It's the way I post.

You think differently then me, so it seems. But that is no reason to say that my point is wrong. I think that the fact that lurkers provide places for hide outweights the fact that scum would shoot a citizen instead of town PR. Also "I think Lurkers provide mislynches" what does that even mean, mislynches are bad for town. Also, scum really didn't kill lurkers without a reason. Mr.Bunny somehow wifomed doc, which I still think is stupid for scum to actually kill him though. And Col contributed quite a bit and may seem like a PR to the scum. I believe that scum isn't that bad that they will kill lurkers who contribute nothing to the scum hunt.

Somebody whom I forgot their name ( think it was Cluseau? )mentioned that he would like to see a list of people who voted and people who don't. I did so based on what he wanted. If you actually read all of my posts. You will find one where I make a list of the voting order, and I mentioned that myself voted after the hammer.

I didn't mention all of my reasons completely, that was my bad. People who troll and RP as well as active lurk is MUCH MUCH more likely to be scum. I mentioned specifically that he could be town PR so that killing roles will think twice before outright killing him. I don't see how you think that the case is bad, you yourself mentioned that you find Kermit at the top of your scum list for the exact same reason.

Do you think you could post an updated list of your scum reads? This time being really clear about why a specific player's actions read as scum to you (i.e. their scum motivation). This would help me immensely in getting a better read on you.

Also, I forgot to mention this earlier, but part of what I didn't like about your comment that the SK hit mafia was that the SK could have hit the witch. But your comment was like Sherlock's infamous D1 comment about the witch because it implied scum knowledge that the SK didn't hit the witch and instead hit mafia.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

I think I'll just
1) post my reads until D2
2) mafia/SK kills reason
3) possible mafia/SK strategy

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Gandalf acted all scummy while claiming doctor - his reads and timing. Didn't give us any real reads before he died.

Thought I could do better.

I actually find Gandalf's last reads rather helpful. I guess the reason you don't like them is because he called you out as possible scum.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

Also, I forgot to mention this earlier, but part of what I didn't like about your comment that the SK hit mafia was that the SK could have hit the witch. But your comment was like Sherlock's infamous D1 comment about the witch because it implied scum knowledge that the SK didn't hit the witch and instead hit mafia.

No wonder everyone prefer not to post but rather troll and lurk. With people like you...

At least you didn't accuse with false evidences like some did...

[FM Agahnim]

No wonder everyone prefer not to post but rather troll and lurk. With people like you...

At least you didn't accuse with false evidences like some did...

I can't help but feel like you are trying to undercut me and buddy with pro-town players in this post

[FM Sherlock]

I hate ponies.

[FM Captain Obvious]

I hate ponies.

I'm not exactly sure what the point of this is.
I personally agree with the notion that Pinkie Pie was framed, seeing as Gandalf was(likely) framed. The framer seems to pick active targets.
I would like to hear from Indiana Jones on yesterday's lynch.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

I actually find Gandalf's last reads rather helpful. I guess the reason you don't like them is because he called you out as possible scum.

Oh. I'm pissed because he specifically went out frame me with false evidences since day1. Also his doctor claim is obviously faked. Seen it a mile away, as I already posted yesterday.

And him linking me with Batman... ugh. Made up to last minute.

#431

No, I'm waiting to write up my important info until after I have all of my notes in order.

#512

#1) Pinkie Pie randomly addresses Batman on day 2, reply 490, giving him advice on his avatar. The post she's responding to is a ways back, on reply 437. This strikes me as an inexperienced mafia member being paying too much attention to random comments made by a teammate.

431 preparing. Linking me to Batman with 490, 437.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

I can't help but feel like you are trying to undercut me and buddy with pro-town players in this post

Is he protown? No. Go get the lurkers if you are protown. What I see are attempt to kill of active players.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

I hate ponies.

If Watson is Mafia. Sherlock must be Mafia.

Pony haters! Maybe Gandalf hated ponies.

[FM Cookie Monster]

Do you think you could post an updated list of your scum reads? This time being really clear about why a specific player's actions read as scum to you (i.e. their scum motivation). This would help me immensely in getting a better read on you.

Also, I forgot to mention this earlier, but part of what I didn't like about your comment that the SK hit mafia was that the SK could have hit the witch. But your comment was like Sherlock's infamous D1 comment about the witch because it implied scum knowledge that the SK didn't hit the witch and instead hit mafia.

It's an error, I really have nothing to say other than that.
Also I won't post my reads until later today so I can get a better read when majority have posted.
But just for now my major scum reads remains mainly on the lurkers:

Animal for the reason Terminator mentioned and generaly quite inactive
Kermit for the reasons I have mentioned before
And others: Anubis, Captain Obvious, Batman, Dracula, Gimli, Hambulglar,King Tut, Lone ranger, MR T, thrakath, Robin hood, rubber ducky, sherlock, spongebob, joker and wolverine. Though not so much then the ones I mentioned above.
There are so many I suspect particularly because they have been lurking and haven't dropped too many read-able posts.

Also I'm beginning to suspect you because you react weirdly towards my response, like asking me to post my scum reads instead of directly responding to what I have said

[FM Agahnim]

Is he protown? No. Go get the lurkers if you are protown. What I see are attempt to kill of active players.

This is a completely useless and bullshit post you could have ever possible made in this entire game.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

It's an error, I really have nothing to say other than that.
Also I won't post my reads until later today so I can get a better read when majority have posted.
But just for now my major scum reads remains mainly on the lurkers:

Animal for the reason Terminator mentioned and generaly quite inactive
Kermit for the reasons I have mentioned before
And others: Anubis, Captain Obvious, Batman, Dracula, Gimli, Hambulglar,King Tut, Lone ranger, MR T, thrakath, Robin hood, rubber ducky, sherlock, spongebob, joker and wolverine. Though not so much then the ones I mentioned above.
There are so many I suspect particularly because they have been lurking and haven't dropped too many read-able posts.

Also I'm beginning to suspect you because you react weirdly towards my response, like asking me to post my scum reads instead of directly responding to what I have said

Lol so your scum reads are only on the hardcore lurker trolls? What happened to your scum read on more active players like Gandalf and Jack Sparrow (Day 2, #392)? I find this really really strange like maybe you fabricated your scum reads on them for convenience. Interesting that you and Agahnim (Day 3, #9) both are so suspicious of all the lurkers. You actually have 18 scum reads which apparently is quite odd because there are only 7 scum left in the game. Seems like someone isn't trying very hard at this thing called scumhunting. Suspecting lurkers is the cop-out EZ mode way to do it, and this seems scummy because if you're mafia who was hit by the sk like I suspect, you know your fellow mafia members and thus have to fabricate scum reads on town players. It's probably hard for mafia to find scumtells in day chat so it's convenient to instead just fall back to calling out lurkers.

I'm just pressuring you since you seem scummy yet active enough to get responses from (unlike pressuring lurkers). I just didn't want you to get forgotten about. I think I've seen enough from you to solidify my scum read.

Also, I changed my mind about wanting a Pinkie Pie lynch. I thought about it a bit and it seems like a better use to let jailor jail.

unvote

[FM Cookie Monster]

Lol so your scum reads are only on the hardcore lurker trolls? What happened to your scum read on more active players like Gandalf and Jack Sparrow (Day 2, #392)? I find this really really strange like maybe you fabricated your scum reads on them for convenience. Interesting that you and Agahnim (Day 3, #9) both are so suspicious of all the lurkers. You actually have 18 scum reads which apparently is quite odd because there are only 7 scum left in the game. Seems like someone isn't trying very hard at this thing called scumhunting. Suspecting lurkers is the cop-out EZ mode way to do it, and this seems scummy because if you're mafia who was hit by the sk like I suspect, you know your fellow mafia members and thus have to fabricate scum reads on town players. It's probably hard for mafia to find scumtells in day chat so it's convenient to instead just fall back to calling out lurkers.

I'm just pressuring you since you seem scummy yet active enough to get responses from (unlike pressuring lurkers). I just didn't want you to get forgotten about. I think I've seen enough from you to solidify my scum read.

Also, I changed my mind about wanting a Pinkie Pie lynch. I thought about it a bit and it seems like a better use to let jailor jail.

unvote
*sigh* I honestly thought you were more pro-town than this Frog
You keep ignoring all by responses and keep asking the same thing over and over again about my scum reads.
The reason I mentioned so much is that they are all lurkers. I found it weird that you are favoring lurkers, lurking citizen, which most of the lurkers are. Is essentially useless. Yeah, that can soak up a mafia hit or two, and give town PR a place to hide, but aside from that they only widen the place where scum can hide.

I DO have scum reads on the active players. I don't want to mention them so that I can observe them while they act, as most of the more active player tends to be less pressured atm I want to see how they continue to post. In fact, I think that it is extremely scummy for you to ignore most of my responses that are based on your original claims about me.


And I am against choosing jailing over lynching for the reasons I have mentioned over and over again

[FM Cookie Monster]

*sigh* I honestly thought you were more pro-town than this Frog
You keep ignoring all by responses and keep asking the same thing over and over again about my scum reads.
The reason I mentioned so much is that they are all lurkers. I found it weird that you are favoring lurkers, lurking citizen, which most of the lurkers are. Is essentially useless. Yeah, that can soak up a mafia hit or two, and give town PR a place to hide, but aside from that they only widen the place where scum can hide.

I DO have scum reads on the active players. I don't want to mention them so that I can observe them while they act, as most of the more active player tends to be less pressured atm I want to see how they continue to post. In fact, I think that it is extremely scummy for you to ignore most of my responses that are based on your original claims about me.


And I am against choosing jailing over lynching for the reasons I have mentioned over and over again

Whoops, lynching over jailing*

[FM Cookie Monster]

I'm going to have some sleep now, be back in +- 10 hours

[FM Hungry]

Im guessing the serial killer attacked a scum that appeared to be a townie. Probably 1 of the more active players, since scums like to target active players. If i was the serial killer i would have probably attacked Cookie monster, Yoda, king arthur or ceasar

[FM Master Chef]

Master Chef is a sheep.


lol? not sure if srs... i voted on day 1 against Watson cuz he was obvious scum. and so did you. does this mean u r sheep too? we're all sheep!

ok I'm going back to reading

[FM Yoda]

If i was the serial killer i would have probably attacked Cookie monster, Yoda, king arthur or ceasar


Murderous benefit, where is?

PR, no one dead.

[FM Master Chef]

Since my plan failed. Lemme go prepare last wills. Don't end the day early.

I'm Citizen. Forgot there is N0.

Vigilante shot or lynch you choose.

lol...
>does not want to make the same mess gandalf did
>does the same plan anyways but fails

[FM Yosemite Sam]

lol...
>does not want to make the same mess gandalf did
>does the same plan anyways but fails

I know,right? Idiots like that should be executed.

[FM SpongeBob]

If anything, just noticing how Pinkie's personality changes when the suspicion is throw on her.
She is jumping at her actions without thinking them through now and more timid than she was when doubt was thrown on her the day before.

[FM Sherlock]

So how we are going to kill Pinkie Pie?

Day lynch, execution in jail, shooting by vigilante or shooting by the guy with blacksmith gun?

[FM Master Chef]

So how we are going to kill Pinkie Pie?

Day lynch, execution in jail, shooting by vigilante or shooting by the guy with blacksmith gun?
We don't know for sure that a townie got a blacksmith gun, so it's best for the vigilante to do the dirty work imo

[FM Hungry]

we should definitely let the jailor jail tonight, anyone that disagrees with this is probably a scum.
Its possible that our escort has found the serial killer and if we let the jailor jail we will have a 2nd roleblocker aswell.