S-FM 49: Secret Society [RESTARTED]

[Espozito]

Day 1 (Surprise! No troll day!)



Setup and Rules (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/15158-S-FM-Secret-Society?p=244378&viewfull=1#post244378)



Players alive:

1. RLVG
2. Damus_Graves
3. Chane
4. Bunny
5. Roflcopter
6. Cryptonic
7. Brendan
8. Bahkieh
9. Anonymous - Jr4life24
10. Fatalis



6 (vote with tag only!)
-skip function is allowed.
Questions are allowed.
Day will end this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7+am+MSK+18+December) (or earlier, depending on -skip).

[Fatalis]

FERST

[Fatalis]

I'm going to break the major scum rule #2 which is to dissapear after voting
bye
-afk smoke

[Bahkieh]

Hi ferst person

[RLVG]

Will there be an award for those who may have become a citizen / cultist three times in a row?

This has been restarted three times.

[Brendan]

Lol I'm a citizen again. As a result I will be noticeably less active than when I was the vigilante. :(

[Bahkieh]

You get no reward brohemeth

[RLVG]

Lol I'm a citizen again. As a result I will be noticeably less active than when I was the vigilante. :(

This confirms you're not a vigilante, but I'm not sure about citizen.

[Brendan]

This confirms you're not a vigilante, but I'm not sure about citizen.

Shhhhhhhh

[Cryptonic]

Hello, I'm an important town power role :smile:

[Bunny]

hello everyone!

[RLVG]

Hello, I'm an important town power role :smile:

Inb4 replaced.

[Brendan]

hello everyone!

Wtf who is that in your avatar picture?!

[Damus_Graves]

Thats obviously her

[Bahkieh]

Oh god I can alway tell this game will be a doozy.

[Damus_Graves]

Oh god I can alway tell this game will be a doozy.

scum

[Brendan]

scum

Agreed. Bahkieh

[Bahkieh]

Lynch happy are we? My role hasn't changed over the course of the restarts.

[Damus_Graves]

Lynch happy are we? My role hasn't changed over the course of the restarts.

Bullshit.

[Brendan]

We're on to you Bahkieh.

[Bahkieh]

Ok then. Go ahead and lynch me. I suggest the vigilante reveal since they are the only one who is incapable of being converted.

[Brendan]

There is no point in hiding it, if you are the vigilante go ahead and reveal.

[Jr4life24]

On phone, Internet has been shitting out all day, hopefully it will be fixed tomorrow so i should be back before day ends.

[Bunny]

Wtf who is that in your avatar picture?!

lol me. i got low lights in november.

[Damus_Graves]

Town:
Bunny
Damus
Jr4life24 (For now)

[Bahkieh]

There is no point in hiding it, if you are the vigilante go ahead and reveal.

If I was the vigilante I would have.

[Brendan]

lol me. i got low lights in november.

Interesting...

[Brendan]

I wasn't saying you were Bahkieh.

[Bahkieh]

Anyways. I am done with this game for now. I'm going to focus on nightmares and brawl. Try to not fail too hard.

[Brendan]

That hair is suspicious... I'm thinking scum... >_> I think I will retire from this game as well for now. unvote

[Damus_Graves]

Town:
Bahkieh
Bunny
Damus
Jr4life24


Roflcopter

[Brendan]

Why aren't I on your list Damus? :(

[Fatalis]

OMG that's bunny
Quick bunny! post pictures of Crypt's real face while he's not here :O
Anyways I just got back from breakfast

[Damus_Graves]

Why aren't I on your list Damus? :(

Probably because the both of us are mafia O.o

Sheesh didn't you get the PM

[Fatalis]

Probably because the both of us are mafia O.o

Sheesh didn't you get the PM

IMPOSSIBLE
DAMUS USES GOOD GRAMMAR
"the both of us" is not GOOD GRAMMAR
Therefore Damus is scum

[Damus_Graves]

IMPOSSIBLE
DAMUS USES GOOD GRAMMAR
"the both of us" is not GOOD GRAMMAR
Therefore Damus is scum
Don't try so hard.
Gets you lynched d1

[Fatalis]

Don't try so hard.
Gets you lynched d1

:(

[Damus_Graves]

Im outs brah.
Keep an eye on Rofl and RLVG for me will ya?

[Roflcopter]

Damus y u hate me suddenly, voting me day one and all.

[Damus_Graves]

Damus y u hate me suddenly, voting me day one and all.

At this point in this why not.

[RLVG]

Im outs brah.
Keep an eye on Rofl and RLVG for me will ya?

I haven't slept tonight, so don't have large expectations.:cheesy:

[Damus_Graves]

I haven't slept tonight, so don't have large expectations.:cheesy:

Nvm.

I missed your posts

[Damus_Graves]

Chane.

hmm

[Fatalis]

I"m back guys :D

[Roflcopter]

So, is there anything we want to get done today?

ie: Someone revealing, lynching someone, etc.

[Fatalis]

So, is there anything we want to get done today?

ie: Someone revealing, lynching someone, etc.
Let's wait till everybody post, I'm really really tired today so I can't make any great discussion ATM

[Damus_Graves]

1. RLVG
2. Damus_Graves
3. Chane
4. Bunny
5. Roflcopter
6. Cryptonic
7. Brendan
8. Bahkieh
9. Jr4life24
10. Fatalis


Key

Town
Scum
Unknown

[Damus_Graves]

1. RLVG
2. Damus_Graves
3. Chane
4. Bunny
5. Roflcopter
6. Cryptonic
7. Brendan
8. Bahkieh
9. Jr4life24
10. Fatalis


Key

Town
Scum
Unknown

Fixed

[Damus_Graves]

Let's wait till everybody post, I'm really really tired today so I can't make any great discussion ATM

I'm nearly 100% of the time dead on my feet tired while shifting through FMs. :(

[Fatalis]

Fixed

well I see you don't mention your name as a possible scum anymore :O
Mind if I ask you why you suspect me

[Damus_Graves]

Mostly because you make no effort to do anything more than post filler/spam and wait for others to make conversation and not do anything yourself.
Blending like this seems scummy ta me.

[Damus_Graves]

Fatalis

[Damus_Graves]

Convince me to take off my vote on you.

[Fatalis]

Mostly because you make no effort to do anything more than post filler/spam and wait for others to make conversation and not do anything yourself.
Blending like this seems scummy ta me.
..Yeah I knew you were going to say that. But no-one have done anything worthwhile as far as I'm concerned. Mostly are opening posts and I haven't had any good reads on anybody.
I feel like Brendan and Roflcopter are the scummiest, Brendan acts weird as usual and Rofl's reaction to pressure is seemingly odd. Although I have mistaken brendan for scum multiple times though. Rofl usually contributes more when he's town

[Fatalis]

Convince me to take off my vote on you.

I won't because I don't know how to

[Fatalis]

I'm going to have dinner, hopefully when I go back I won't be as tired as now

[Damus_Graves]

I won't because I don't know how to

This works.
But I shall be keeping one eye on you.

Fatalis

[RLVG]

1. RLVG
2. Damus_Graves
3. Chane
4. Bunny
5. Roflcopter
6. Cryptonic
7. Brendan
8. Bahkieh
9. Jr4life24
10. Fatalis


Key

Town
Scum
Unknown

Would you like me to claim something this early?

[Damus_Graves]

Would you like me to claim something this early?

It would still be bloody useless.

[Chane]

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME

[Chane]

shift + Q + Q

[Damus_Graves]

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME

What did you expect? :p

[Damus_Graves]

1. RLVG
2. Damus_Graves
3. Chane
4. Bunny
5. Roflcopter
6. Cryptonic
7. Brendan
8. Bahkieh
9. Jr4life24
10. Fatalis

[Chane]

What did you expect? :p

I demand a -prefer function immidately! <.<

[Damus_Graves]

I demand a -prefer function immidately! <.<

Sorry mate. Benefactors and up only :p

[Chane]

1. RLVG
2. Damus_Graves
3. Chane
4. Bunny
5. Roflcopter
6. Cryptonic
7. Brendan
8. Bahkieh
9. Jr4life24
10. Fatalis

2 other games you used this in you were scum, you also listed people mostly red, are you now trying out a different prefix of this attachment strat in which you mostly keep everybody close to you as town and in which you don't make the mistake of trying to frame me early on? hm?

[Chane]

Sorry mate. Benefactors and up only :p

I will hit you with my ru- wrong s-fm.

[Damus_Graves]

2 other games you used this in you were scum, you also listed people mostly red, are you now trying out a different prefix of this attachment strat in which you mostly keep everybody close to you as town and in which you don't make the mistake of trying to frame me early on? hm?

I said before that it was a brilliant way of showing reads in a quick easy and fully understandable manner.
I'd expect you to understand mate.

[Damus_Graves]

Straight up though tell me if you agree/disagree with my reads and why please

[Chane]

it was a lil test thats all. I expected YOU to see though it :\

I would put some more scumdar on brendan/bunny/bahkieh just a tad more.

[Chane]

and from your perspective I don't really get why you put me as insta-town. you are right I will give you that but honestly the ususal rage could have been fabricated.

[Damus_Graves]

it was a lil test thats all. I expected YOU to see though it :\

I would put some more scumdar on brendan/bunny/bahkieh just a tad more.

I don't think you got what I was saying :(


Ok. Why put more "scumdar" on them?

[Damus_Graves]

and from your perspective I don't really get why you put me as insta-town. you are right I will give you that but honestly the ususal rage could have been fabricated.

Meta.

[Roflcopter]

Is there any role we want to claim today?

Or anyone want to claim a role today?

[Damus_Graves]

Is there any role we want to claim today?

Or anyone want to claim a role today?


Why are you so hard on to get claims?

[Chane]

Why are you so hard on to get claims?

he's a fisherman.

[Damus_Graves]

Bad reaction and dismal imo Roflcopter.

Roflcopter

[Damus_Graves]

Bad reaction and dismal imo Roflcopter.

Roflcopter

Not to mention the immediate lurk in both instances

[Fatalis]

Ok I'm back!
-vote Roflcopter
Yeah we can afford a mislynch or two. In the end having a scummy person would just cause more confusion especially with the presence of Cult

[Fatalis]

Oh by the way
Does converted town wins with cult or with town?

[Damus_Graves]

Oh by the way
Does converted town wins with cult or with town?

Did you really just ask that -.-

[Fatalis]

Did you really just ask that -.-

um.. yeah?

[Damus_Graves]

This is a cult game. With Cult that convert people into being Cultists.

J..I...

I'm going to bed. Good night

[Fatalis]

This is a cult game. With Cult that convert people into being Cultists.

J..I...

I'm going to bed. Good night

No, there are some games where only the original Cultists win, not the converted ones

[Espozito]

1. Converted Cultists win with Cult
2. Fatalis, use tags to vote for the vote counter

[vote]Roflcopter[ /vote]

[Roflcopter]

I have my reasons for asking, and I'd rather not share them or reveal my role right now.

[Fatalis]

Roflcopter
Well that's sad, imagine you are 1 night close to victory and a cult recruits you O.o

[Roflcopter]

Damus is too aggressive, pretty sure he rolled cultist.

damus_graves

Maybe fatalis and damus are the two cult and this will be a easy game.

[Fatalis]

Damus is too aggressive, pretty sure he rolled cultist.

damus_graves

Maybe fatalis and damus are the two cult and this will be a easy game.
He's always aggresive

But you are not acting as usual, you don't usually respond badly nor ask weird contributive questions
Why do you even ask "Are we going to reveal/lynch someone today" instead of sharing your taughts

[Roflcopter]

I also see that he said he's going to bed, yet his name was just viewing the thread, maybe he just is using it as a lurking excuse so he doesn't slip.

[Roflcopter]

I am sharing my thoughts, look at my previous post.

As for the play, I'm trying something different than usual.

[Fatalis]

I also see that he said he's going to bed, yet his name was just viewing the thread, maybe he just is using it as a lurking excuse so he doesn't slip.

And now he leaves.. I'm also going to keep an eye on him to make sure he doesn't go under my radar *cough troll saves cough*

[Fatalis]

@rofl also you avoided my opinion/question

[Roflcopter]

I'm asking to see what the town wants to do.

Rebooking at the setup, role reveals actually might not be as good as I thought.

[Fatalis]

I'm asking to see what the town wants to do.

Rebooking at the setup, role reveals actually might not be as good as I thought.

That is a typical scum act in my eyes also
"to see what the town wants to do" just sounds like you are not a town :O

[Espozito]

Vote Tally

Roflcopter (2 [L-4]):
Damus_Graves, Fatalis

Damus_Graves (1 [L-5]):
Roflcopter

(or you can always look it above the thread)

[Fatalis]

unvote
I'm going to bed, bye guys
Rofl have seemed scummy but he haven't give any major scum slips or anything so I won't pressure him to harshly

[Cryptonic]

Hey i'm going to read the rolecards and then I will think about what to do :p
Don't wanna go into this blind.

[Cryptonic]

Ok, Vigilante has unlimited bullets!
I think we should decide who to shoot in the day as a group. That way, we will find suspicious activity via communication. Plus, shooting every night can be helpful (at long as it's smart). Then, the Doctor can also decide who to heal from conversion.

I did feel like it would be OK for the Vigilante to reveal now, but, thinking about late game, it might be to our advantage to have the Vigilante remain Anon. Say the game got down to 2 Cultist, 1 Citizen and Vigilante: Cultists don't know who Vigilante is, and they attempt to convert him (failing) while he shoots one of the Cultists.

So, I'm going to read the thread, looking for suspicious behavior. Anyone have any legit slips to quote?

[Brendan]

Vigilante can't shoot tonight.

[Brendan]

I'll leave a vote on Roflcopter before I leave as he would be my choice of who should be shot tonight.

[Bahkieh]

Ok just woke up and read through everything. Cant remember any of it. Going to eat some breakfast and shower. Brfb

[Cryptonic]

Vigilante can't shoot tonight.

oh ok

[Bahkieh]

Why lynch rofl?

[Brendan]

Why lynch rofl?

He's playing differently than usual. It's my best guess atm.

[Chane]

ok, I have read this all over and I am gonna say rofl's "different style tryout" is bullshit. he is just a newby scum.

roflcopter

[Roflcopter]

Holy damn, I didn't want to reveal but fine.

I am the vigilante.

Lynching me will result in... basically town losing entirely.

[RLVG]

Holy damn, I didn't want to reveal but fine.

I am the vigilante.

Lynching me will result in... basically town losing entirely.

Now the doc is going to remain on you for half the game...

[Cryptonic]

why would doc remain on vigi? D:

[Cryptonic]

I am willing to bet that one of the 3 that voted for Rofl today is scum.

So, either Brendan, Damus_Graves, or Chane.

[Chane]

then lets chose a target for rofl to shoot tonight as a town and if another vigi is in the game make him shoot somebody else, if rofl is the vigi he should shoot the target we assign him.

I vote on brendan.

[RLVG]

I also vote for Brendan.

[Cryptonic]

I would vote, but Vigilante can't shoot tonight I thought. lol

[Brendan]

Lol chane "another vigilante" wtf did you even read the setup.

[Chane]

Lol chane "another vigilante" wtf did you even read the setup.

if somebody else is vigi besides rofl and if he doesn't want to CC yet you R-tard.

[Chane]

I would vote, but Vigilante can't shoot tonight I thought. lol

then we leave it be for tomorrow night, npnp

[Cryptonic]

Vigilante shouldn't shoot Vigilante claims.
What if Roflcopter is the Doctor trying not to get converted, so he claimed Vigilante knowing that no one in their right mind would claim Vigilante because Vigilante would shoot them if they did claim their role?!?!?!?

[Roflcopter]

Vigilante shouldn't shoot Vigilante claims.
What if Roflcopter is the Doctor trying not to get converted, so he claimed Vigilante knowing that no one in their right mind would claim Vigilante because Vigilante would shoot them if they did claim their role?!?!?!?

Here comes the WIFOM

( I assure you I am doc or vigi)

If I am a doctor, real vigi do not shoot me, for I am a doctor claiming vigi.

If I am a vigi, doctor do not heal me, for I am immune to conversion.

[Roflcopter]

If I am a doctor, I hope this double wifom of vigi/doc makes the cult not target me.

If I am a vigi, I hope the cult targets me to waste a night

[Damus_Graves]

Roflcopter

Hm

[Damus_Graves]

I do not buy that Cryptonic did not read the setup in the three times that this game has been started.

Cryptonic

[Brendan]

unvote

[Brendan]

I do not buy that Cryptonic did not read the setup in the three times that this game has been started.

Cryptonic

To be fair the other 2 didn't last very long...

[Damus_Graves]

To be fair the other 2 didn't last very long...

Not reading the setup is mostly a newb thing to do.
I would expect someone who has played the game longer than most other players here would take the time to read the setup.

[Brendan]

I will take sides with my mafia buddy once again! Cryptonic

[Damus_Graves]

I will take sides with my mafia buddy once again! Cryptonic

Good choice

[Chane]

Brendan's troll post is a tad to much for me. I suggest the vigilante to shoot him tonight, as for cryptonic, I agree

Cryptonic

[Damus_Graves]

[QUOTE=Chane;253642]Brendan's troll post is a tad to much for me. I suggest the vigilante to shoot him tonight
/QUOTE]

No.

[Brendan]

Brendan's troll post is a tad to much for me. I suggest the vigilante to shoot him tonight, as for cryptonic, I agree

Cryptonic

Yet you voted for cryptonic. Lol

[Chane]

Yet you voted for cryptonic. Lol

I place you second on my list and thus I suggest you to be shot at night. whats so hard to understand about that?

[Brendan]

What list? And if I'm second why not the first?

[Damus_Graves]

I place you second on my list and thus I suggest you to be shot at night. whats so hard to understand about that?

You don't have three MVPs.

RLVG
What is your opinion on this matter.

[Chane]

What list? And if I'm second why not the first?

because I merely spotted some trolling and general scummness from you, though vigi can't shoot tonight so we shall see tomorrow.

[Damus_Graves]

because I merely spotted some trolling and general scummness from you, though vigi can't shoot tonight so we shall see tomorrow.
Brendan has been playing as par his normal town play.
His scum play is much, much worse than this.

[Cryptonic]

lol i've read Cultist rolecard and Citizen rolecard. I did read the setup, I just hadn't looked at the Vigilante rolecard yet, as I have had no reason until now.

[Cryptonic]

It's funny how Damus, Chane and Brendan keep trying to run trains day 1.

I think 1 is sheep and 2 are cult lol.

Damus_Graves

[Chane]

lol i've read Cultist rolecard and Citizen rolecard. I did read the setup, I just hadn't looked at the Vigilante rolecard yet, as I have had no reason until now.

... just...

[Cryptonic]

... just...

good post

[Damus_Graves]

lol i've read Cultist rolecard and Citizen rolecard. I did read the setup, I just hadn't looked at the Vigilante rolecard yet, as I have had no reason until now.

Vigilante is one of the core roles of this game and you expect me to believe that you just overlooked it?

[Damus_Graves]

It's funny how Damus, Chane and Brendan keep trying to run trains day 1.

I think 1 is sheep and 2 are cult lol.

Damus_Graves

Oooh a retaliation vote.
Isn't that something scum do to redirect attention? O.o

[Cryptonic]

yet i'm voting with the Vigilante/Doctor
INTERESTING

[Cryptonic]

Everyone, please keep your eye on these three:
Brendan
Damus_Graves
Chane

[Chane]

hmmm

scumlist so far:

Crypt > Damus > brendan

[Damus_Graves]

yet i'm voting with the Vigilante/Doctor
INTERESTING

You don't sheep unless you are trying to blend, imo.
Interesting.

[Cryptonic]

It's not sheeping. I'm voting you because you keep starting trains on people.
Brendan and Chane joining in the train is almost as susp.

[Damus_Graves]

It's not sheeping. I'm voting you because you keep starting trains on people.
Brendan and Chane joining in the train is almost as susp.

So, I am suspicious because I am voting the people I suspect as being Cultist, which draws a huge amount of attention onto me as well as them, and in each train I supply a legit reason for why I am voting them.


:|


Yup you got me I am Cultist :p

[Damus_Graves]

yet i'm voting with the Vigilante/Doctor
INTERESTING


It's not sheeping. I'm voting you because you keep starting trains on people.
Brendan and Chane joining in the train is almost as susp.

You're not sheeping?
Are you sure?

[Chane]

hmm from what I have seen of damus so far this is his town play.

[Jr4life24]

You're not sheeping?
Are you sure?

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Gizmo2808/Youth%20Themes/sheep_jumping_fence_blk.gif

I got a bit of reading to do, Give me a sec

[Cryptonic]

You're not sheeping?
Are you sure?

Yes. I was pointing out that me and Vigi were voting the same person.
I didn't vote because of that.

But you seem like you have town's best interest in mind.


Chane

[Damus_Graves]

Why Chane exactly? Sheeping?

[Cryptonic]

Why Chane exactly? Sheeping?

Read my posts to find out, lol

[Damus_Graves]

Yeah I see that but Chane's reaction is within reason for the role he might have gotten.

[Damus_Graves]

Yeah I see that but Chane's reaction is within reason for the role he might have gotten.

I'd suspect Brendan over Chane tbh

[Cryptonic]

Alright, well I don't even think we should be lynching today. wifom doc on me pls and Ty.

[Damus_Graves]

Alright, well I don't even think we should be lynching today. wifom doc on me pls and Ty.



Oh cool. Since you are WIFOMing doc on me.
Doc be on me please.

[Damus_Graves]

Suspect #1 = Jr4life24 or RLVG

[Damus_Graves]

Both of them have kept themselves to minimum talk so far.
Jr havin an excuse but still

[Fatalis]

Hai! give me a moment to read :P

[Fatalis]

Vigilante shouldn't shoot Vigilante claims.
What if Roflcopter is the Doctor trying not to get converted, so he claimed Vigilante knowing that no one in their right mind would claim Vigilante because Vigilante would shoot them if they did claim their role?!?!?!?
Crypt why did you say that -_-

[Cryptonic]

Crypt why did you say that -_-

because no one would claim vigilante unless they didn't want to be converted

[Damus_Graves]

Crypt why did you say that -_-

It's logical.

[Fatalis]

Chane
Chane Y U SO SHEEP

[Fatalis]

because no one would claim vigilante unless they didn't want to be converted

But if he IS the doctor then you kinda revealed him O.O

[Fatalis]

hmmm

scumlist so far:

Crypt > Damus > brendan
Trying to distance yourself from your scum friend whom you voted with?

[RLVG]

RLVG
What is your opinion on this matter.

Suspect #1 = Jr4life24 or RLVG

Both of them have kept themselves to minimum talk so far.
Jr havin an excuse but still


Dead tired, I went to sleep early. It's now 01:19 and I'll probably be past the whoooole night to fix the whole sleep rhythm.

Sheeping is a strange tactic, but IMO Crypto may be scum.

[Jr4life24]

Both of them have kept themselves to minimum talk so far.
Jr havin an excuse but still
Yea i know, Give me a bit, I read through most of it but my sisters birthday is today so I've been spending it, So much happened in the past 2 days with me being gone so it sucks. I will be more active next day, I will try and be as active as i can for now as it's starting to get quieter where i am

[Jr4life24]

Alright, So a few people stood out for me, This is actually my first time getting into this game but I've been reading the other games (With the fails :P)

Crypt. After being in the game for 3 times, And the fact that there is only 4 roles in the god damn game, Yet he still fails to notice certain things.


Hey i'm going to read the rolecards and then I will think about what to do :p
Don't wanna go into this blind.

Someone else who is a bit weird is bunny, Who posted two things which was hi and that her profile picture was her. Other then that she hasn't said much else (I guess im in that same boat currently)

Those are the two major people who have stood out, Rofl claiming early is good, It at least helps narrow down who is our two PR, But at the same time it helps cult as that is one extra person to knock off of recruiting.
My opinions so far, There is only 4 pages so there isn't a lot to see yet considering most of it is back and forth between a few people.

[Cryptonic]

Dead tired, I went to sleep early. It's now 01:19 and I'll probably be past the whoooole night to fix the whole sleep rhythm.

Sheeping is a strange tactic, but IMO Crypto may be scum.

You think I am scum for saying Damus_Graves, Brendan, and Chane keep training on people? o.o

[Fatalis]

You think I am scum for saying Damus_Graves, Brendan, and Chane keep training on people? o.o

Sheeping isn't a strange tactic, but 3 people sheeping on the same person everytime is strange

[Bunny]

Alright, So a few people stood out for me, This is actually my first time getting into this game but I've been reading the other games (With the fails :P)

Crypt. After being in the game for 3 times, And the fact that there is only 4 roles in the god damn game, Yet he still fails to notice certain things.



Someone else who is a bit weird is bunny, Who posted two things which was hi and that her profile picture was her. Other then that she hasn't said much else (I guess im in that same boat currently)

Those are the two major people who have stood out, Rofl claiming early is good, It at least helps narrow down who is our two PR, But at the same time it helps cult as that is one extra person to knock off of recruiting.
My opinions so far, There is only 4 pages so there isn't a lot to see yet considering most of it is back and forth between a few people.

yeah sorry, been so busy with this new job i can't go on during it like my old one =/ and then christmas baking and crypt teaching me dota2. I personally find RLVG scummy, just don't get good vibes from him.

[Cryptonic]

I think one of those three are Cultist. What do you think, Fatalis?

[Cryptonic]

yeah sorry, been so busy with this new job i can't go on during it like my old one =/ and then christmas baking and crypt teaching me dota2. I personally find RLVG scummy, just don't get good vibes from him.

AppleyNO falls from the sky and gives you a 1-shot gun, who do you shoot?

[Bunny]

AppleyNO falls from the sky and gives you a 1-shot gun, who do you shoot?

i would shoot RLVG but only because he's like chandler.

[Cryptonic]

i would shoot RLVG but only because he's like chandler.

that's quite rachel of you

[Espozito]

Night 1

Nobody has been lynched today!

Cryptonic (2 [L-4]):
Brendan, Chane

Damus_Graves (1 [L-5]):
Roflcopter

Cult Chat is now opened.
Have your night actions and Last Wills submitted at least 2 hours before the Night 1 ends.
It will end this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7+am+MSK+19+Decebmer+2012).

[Espozito]

Day 2



Nothing happened this night.



Players alive:

1. RLVG
2. Damus_Graves
3. Chane
4. Bunny
5. Roflcopter
6. Cryptonic
7. Brendan
8. Bahkieh
9. Anonymous - Jr4life24
10. Fatalis



6 (vote with tag only!)
-skip function is allowed.
Questions are allowed.
Day will end this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7+am+MSK+20+December) (or earlier, depending on -skip).

[Bahkieh]

Nothing at all? Wtf. Why no vigi shot?

[Damus_Graves]

Did anyone get healed from conversions!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bahkieh]

I received no feedback.

[Brendan]

Vigilante couldn't shoot last night as I pointed out several times.

[Bahkieh]

Vigilante couldn't shoot last night as I pointed out several times.

...dammit I'm playing too many games at once lol.

[Damus_Graves]

inb4 Bunny is actually scum

[Roflcopter]

Nothing happened to me last night.

[Roflcopter]

It's hard to know who to shoot right now, since anyone who I thought was town could be cult now, Damus, for example might be cult now, or maybe he was before...

btw, does "Occult" have anything to do with cult? It has "Cult" in the name, it comes to mind when I think about cult but I can't remember what it means.

[Chane]

no feedback at all. neither any night action. if it wasnt clear already I am forever bronz- citizen

[Fatalis]

Nothing happened to me
@Crypt yes I do think that at least one of them is cult. But now you might be too :O

[Damus_Graves]

I'm an easy mislynch target. I won't be culted till later in the game.

Good cult targets are: Chane, Bunny, Fatalis.

WIFOM protect was on myself and Cryptonic if I recall correctly

[Cryptonic]

I believe damus is town. I also believe that him and I will be town long after everyone else lol.
except now that I said it, we're targets, so doc on us ;D

[Cryptonic]

Vigilante couldn't shoot last night as I pointed out several times.

If you were the cult, who would you have converted last night?

[RLVG]

If you were the cult, who would you have converted last night?

I dare guess it would be me as a target for the inactivity I've given in this FM.
I gurantee that I have not been converted, yet at least.

[Roflcopter]

ignore that question then, I guess I was starting to get off-topic.

As for who to pressure, who's being silent right now?

[Cryptonic]

Ok, now I think we should discuss who we shoot tonight. And I want to hear from everybody.

We're in a pretty safe place right now.
A) Culting was successful: We get 2 lynches and 2 shots before the next Cultist Conversion.

B) Culting wasn't successful: We get 1 lynch and 1 bullet and we have an extra town member that the doc can confirm.

[Cryptonic]

1. RLVG - 0
2. Damus_Graves - 1
3. Chane - -1
4. Bunny - 0
5. Roflcopter - 2
6. Cryptonic - 2
7. Brendan - -1
8. Bahkieh - -1
9. Jr4life24 - 1
10. Fatalis - 0

This is what I think about everyone's scumminess in my eyes.
-2 = nearly confirmed scum
-1 = acts scummy
0 = undetermined
1 = acts town
2 = nearly confirmed town

[Cryptonic]

People who need to talk more: Chane, Brendan, Bahkieh.
People who others need to talk to (to encourage more discussion): RLVG, Bunny, Fatalis.



After we get some discussion going, we can decide where Roflcopter's Gun/Healing goes.

[RLVG]

Personally, I would think Brendan or Crypto.
Maybe I have something for first expressions...

Bren tries to encourage Vigi to shoot specific persons and points out Vigi can't shoot early, with a subliminal taunt of possible sarcasm.

[Fatalis]

Ok apparently I can't go to bed yet. So I guess I'll be staying here for a while
@Damus I think that you are one of the most likely target for Cult to convert, you look relatively townish to me and probably to other people too

[Fatalis]

Crypt mind if I ask why did you consider Rofl to be most likely town? i found his behavior to be extremely strange

[Fatalis]

Oh wait I forgot his claim................ I'm in way too many games right now for my brain to handle

[Fatalis]

Wait now I'm confused
Let me re read the whole thing O.O

[Fatalis]

Oh yeah, Rofl claimed power role. I don't think it's anywhere near confirmed, but I think that he is likely to be town. It could just be a cultist trying to make an early gambit to gain the town's trust

[Cryptonic]

Personally, I would think Brendan or Crypto.
Maybe I have something for first expressions...

Bren tries to encourage Vigi to shoot specific persons and points out Vigi can't shoot early, with a subliminal taunt of possible sarcasm.

My first impression was saying I'm important town power.. If you find that scummy, maybe you're not town :p

[RLVG]

My first impression was saying I'm important town power.. If you find that scummy, maybe you're not town :p

Each game are different and it could be a quadrible layer WIFOM, but since I can't know then the first expression of "important town power" simply collides.

[Fatalis]

Each game are different and it could be a quadrible layer WIFOM, but since I can't know then the first expression of "important town power" simply collides.

*doesn't get it*

[Fatalis]

going to sleep, bye

[RLVG]

Fatal didn't contribute that much...

[Chane]

funny thing is my scummyness behavior yesterday actually makes me a horrible cult target as I could be pressured and lynched rather easilly. we should instead look at changes in behavior from yesterdays town players.

[Cryptonic]

funny thing is my scummyness behavior yesterday actually makes me a horrible cult target as I could be pressured and lynched rather easilly. we should instead look at changes in behavior from yesterdays town players.

i find claiming cit like you did is acting really anti-town.

[Chane]

i find claiming cit like you did is acting really anti-town.

and thus I am save from being culted and can find and lynch a cult to proof I am town later.

[Cryptonic]

Or you started cult ;)

[RLVG]

Or you started cult ;)

I'm surprised that there's no defense on that claim while he was around, lol.

[Chane]

I'm surprised that there's no defense on that claim while he was around, lol.

I was not around, I had this tab open yes but I was watching a SCII match casted by TB and Husky. that together with some planetside2.

on the argument itself, you're gonna have to take my word for it for now as I wifom ahead into more towny waters

[Damus_Graves]

Cryptonic - If Bunny does not talk today/posts 1-2 messages again, would you begin assuming she is cult?

[Cryptonic]

Cryptonic - If Bunny does not talk today/posts 1-2 messages again, would you begin assuming she is cult?

It's hard to say, because that's now bunny plays. She only likes speaking up if she has something important to say.
I definitely wouldn't say that clears her, but it also doesn't make her cult.

[Fatalis]

RLVG
Possibility to be scum: Normal
I don't have a good read on him yet, his posts are rather scummy in that he has really little post that contribute anything to value

Damus_Graves
Possibility to be scum: Normal
Damus is one of the more townish people in my opinion. What makes me concerned is that since it's a cult game, the cult would probably recruit him as a townish person is also a great recruit target. Although from what I have seen, cult usually prefer the lurkers.

Roflcopter
Possibility to be scum: Lower
Rofl plays very differently from what he usually does, he contributes much fewer and acts more scummy. However, I think that he did so because he knows that he is a PR which is very, very important from the game. I wouldn't get to the point of making him confirmed town, but he have a high possibility of being so.

Chane
Possibility to be scum: Higher
Chane as usual always plays rather scummy IMO, and that is why I never really have a good read on him. But considering that he trains with Brendan and Damus on the same person, it is possible that he is a cult. Also if you look at his first/second posts, he is WiFOMing and outright claiming Citizen. Which could be an early game attempt to make him considered as town.

Brendan
Possibility to be scum: Higher
Brendan also always appear scummy in my eyes, which is again why I sometimes doubt about what role he is. What makes me get a strong scum read from him is his early post

Lol I'm a citizen again. As a result I will be noticeably less active than when I was the vigilante. :(
A very very early game claim, it shows a very bad citizen play as citizen SHOULD try to not reveal themself for the Vigi and Doc

Cryptonic
Possibility to be scum: Lower
The reason why I think he is likely town is that because he contributes quite a lot and doesn't give any scum-tells or such.

Bunny
Possibility to be scum: Normal
I need more posts from Bunny to get a better read on her. But remember that if Crypt is cult most likely Bunny is cult too or is now culted, and vice versa :P

Bahkieh
Possibility to be scum: Highest
IMO he is probably culted or starting cult. Contributes nothing of value and lurks quite a lot

Jr4life24
Possibility to be scum: Normal
He haven't really contributed anything useful or be active, so he needs to post more

[Fatalis]

noooo I forgot to green Crypt's name

also, Bahkieh

[Roflcopter]

So assuming we hammer bahkieh today, who should I mow down in a hail of bullets tonight?

[Bahkieh]

Hold it! I had a surprise visit from my grandma and from creed. Give me a break. also rofl claims town pr? No way.

roflcopter

I claim doctor.

[Espozito]

Day has ended! Nobody has been lynched today!

Night 2

Votes have been reset
Cult Chat is now opened.
Last Wills are allowed.
Have all your night actions submitted.
Night will end this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7+am+MSK+December+21%2C+2012).

[Espozito]

Day 3



One of us is missing on the discussion... RLVG has been shot by Vigilante this morning...
His role was Citizen. We must fight the paranoia not to get ourselves killed!



Players alive:


Damus_Graves
Chane
Bunny
Roflcopter
Cryptonic
Brendan
Bahkieh
Jr4life24
Fatalis

Graveyard:

RLVG (Citizen) - Night 2: shot by Vigilante



5 (vote with tag only!)
-skip function is allowed.
Questions are allowed.
Day will end this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7+am+MSK+22+December) (or earlier, depending on -skip).

[Damus_Graves]

Chane


Useless posts/Fail Logic/Sheeping/Early Claim with no need.

[Cryptonic]

Let's not be too hasty, even though I do suspect Chane.

Haven't really heard much from Bahkieh or Jr4Life24. I have absolutely no read on them.. It seems like they're trying to fly under the radar.
That also makes good Cult targets.

[Brendan]

While I agree with the chane vote, the day has only just begun.

[Cryptonic]

While I agree with the chane vote, the day has only just begun.

screw you, stop copying me.
Brendan

[Damus_Graves]

Biggest scum FoS:

Chane - sheep/lurk/uselessness/early claim with no pressure

Bunny or RLVG - lurking heavily and providing no contributions to town. RLVG normally uses logic and I have seen none in his posts.

Fatalis - He is an easy conversion target.

Cryptonic - It has been roughly late in the game enough that he should have gotten converted.

[Fatalis]

Bahkieh
Damus the fact that you left out Brendan and Bahkieh who is relaly scummy makes me think you are cult with them

[Fatalis]

Biggest scum FoS:

Chane - sheep/lurk/uselessness/early claim with no pressure

Bunny or RLVG - lurking heavily and providing no contributions to town. RLVG normally uses logic and I have seen none in his posts.

Fatalis - He is an easy conversion target.

Cryptonic - It has been roughly late in the game enough that he should have gotten converted.

Also RLVG is dead, read the chat

[Damus_Graves]

Also RLVG is dead, read the chat

That was my Lw -.-

[Damus_Graves]

Bahkieh
Damus the fact that you left out Brendan and Bahkieh who is relaly scummy makes me think you are cult with them

I know how both of them play, roughly, and so far they have been playing town.

[Damus_Graves]

Bahkieh


Might as well actually get a lynch off on an already FoS'd target who has done nothing but active lurk

[Fatalis]

I know how both of them play, roughly, and so far they have been playing town.

It's a game of cult, 1 day you are town and the next you are cult

[Damus_Graves]

It's a game of cult, 1 day you are town and the next you are cult

And as such your play will generally shift or change to accommodation the alignment change.
It is a subtle shift, but it is there.

[Fatalis]

Also to the vigilante, I recommend you either shoot Chane or Bunny for generally being lurkish and scumish

[Damus_Graves]

Also to the vigilante, I recommend you either shoot Chane or Bunny for generally being lurkish and scumish

Hypocritical

[Fatalis]

Hypocritical

Wut

[Damus_Graves]

Wut

You are generally lurkish and scummy.

[Fatalis]

You are generally lurkish and scummy.

I can't suspect someone who I know 100% is town....... at least for today

[Damus_Graves]

I can't suspect someone who I know 100% is town....... at least for today

I'll be town for another two days at most if the Cult has not hit max size. (Is there a max size?)

[Fatalis]

Nope, I read the setup :D

Also as long as the vigilante doesn't misshot we still have a chance of winning even if we mislynch

[Roflcopter]

Dat night.

Anyway bahkieh is my biggest suspect.

bahkieh

[Cryptonic]

Biggest scum FoS:

Chane - sheep/lurk/uselessness/early claim with no pressure

Bunny or RLVG - lurking heavily and providing no contributions to town. RLVG normally uses logic and I have seen none in his posts.

Fatalis - He is an easy conversion target.

Cryptonic - It has been roughly late in the game enough that he should have gotten converted.

This is retarded.. Cult has had ONE conversion, but suddenly it's late enough in the game to be converted? O.o

[Brendan]

Bahkieh I would rather vote Chane but I'll go along with this...

[Espozito]

Warning! Bahkieh is [L-1]!

[Cryptonic]

I'm not voting him because Brendan is voting him...

[Cryptonic]

Roflcopter, if he flips cit/doc, shoot whoever hammers.

[Chane]

Damus, the point you miss is that the later this game goes, the scummier players are less likely to be cult while people such as yourself are likely to be Cult.

Bahkieh seems cult to me with bunny and damus in a close second.

Bahkieh

lets get this over with. vigi you are free to shoot me tonight if you so damn well please. just consider the fact that town will lose faster and faster the more citi's you kill.

and damus, you should be smart enough to know that if I were really scum I would play very pro-town? oh wait I forgot, the scum damus is worse then the town damus.

I suggest the vigi to shoot damus tonight as my final thought. bunny because she is lurky as hell so also a good target for culting.

with my innate scummy behavior I am a horrible culting target as I am a good lynch/vigi target. use yer brainz the zombie apocalypse will only hit america in lik- nvm to late.

[The Godfather]

Bahkieh has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!

[Espozito]

Bahkieh has been lynched! His role was Doctor!

Bahkieh (5 [L-0]):
Damus_Graves, Fatalis, Roflcopter, Brendan, Chane

Night 3

Players

Roflcopter
Damus_Graves
Bunny
Cryptonic
Jr4life24
Fatalis
Chane
Brendan

Graveyard

RLVG (Citizen) - Night 2: shot by Vigilante
Bahkieh (Doctor) - Day 3: lynched

Votes have been reset
Cult Chat is now opened.
Last Wills are allowed.
Have all your night actions submitted.
Night will end this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7+pm+MSK+December+22%2C+2012).

[Espozito]

Day 4



This morning we've found Chane dead in his home. He was taken out by Vigilante. His role was Citizen.



Players alive:

Fatalis
Damus_Graves
Bunny
Roflcopter
Cryptonic
Brendan
Jr4life24

Graveyard

RLVG (Citizen) - Night 2: shot by Vigilante
Bahkieh (Doctor) - Day 3: lynched
Chane (Citizen) - Night 3: shot by Vigilante




4 (vote with tag only!)
-skip function is allowed.
Questions are allowed.
Day will end this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7+am+MSK+18+December) (or earlier, depending on -skip).

[Roflcopter]

I'm about 99% sure cryptonic and damus are cult after that.

I believe it's 3 cult 4 town ATM, so if we lynch one ill just shoot the other.

damus_graves I'd rather not have him enter the cult night chat.