S-FM: Prelude

[Glip]

Sorry, I got a little distracted with FL Studio and the new mic I just got, playing around with vocoders and stuff. Pretty fun.

Anyway, it's time for the actual game to start.



Dawn of the First Day

Links

S-FM: Prelude Setup (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/13243-S-FM-Prelude)

Day 2

Since Day 1 has historically been regarded as a "troll" day, here is a more trollish performance of a classic piano piece.


http://youtu.be/W8R0ZwYvXpg

As the dawn spread her rosy fingers across the twilight sky, lifting the veil of night from the town, light spilled over the jovial scene of the starting hours of Troll Day. The entire town had gathered here to celebrate this joyous occasion, but some of the partygoers had more sinister goals in mind. All the townsfolk seemed so happy and carefree today; it would be a shame if someone decided to spoil the festivities...

1. clementine
2. AppleyNO
3. Jr4life24
4. Fatalis
5. creedkingsx
6. Damus_Graves
7. Chane
8. Espozito
9. CmG
10. wightsnow
11. Roflcopter
12. Apocist
13. straykiwi

1. Ain't been nobody as died yet, foo'! Whaddaya expect to find here? Go away! Start contributing to conversations!

Note: You must make meaningful contributions to the chat today or you will be replaced.

Day will end tomorrow at this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=October+19th%2C+2012%2C+10+PM+EDT).

[Damus_Graves]

Good morning everyone. My name is Damus_Graves and I would like to extend to you all a hearty hello. I dearly hope we survive the dark clouds that hang o'er the head of our beloved town.

[AppleyNO]

HI

Will post soon <3

[creedkingsx]

HI

Will post soon <3

Unnecessary post. :|

[AppleyNO]

Unnecessary post. :|
Isn't that post unnecessary?

Ok here we go! I'm here and ready for action.

We must make meaningful contributions or be replaced?
Great. Let me think of something.

[Damus_Graves]

It is interesting how Creedkingsx immeditatly goes hostile in the opening of this FM.

[creedkingsx]

It is interesting how Creedkingsx immeditatly goes hostile in the opening of this FM.

My reasoning was in FM14, he was SK, posted a lot of bland nothing posts and led the whole town. Starting in a very similar manner.

[Damus_Graves]

I also find it interesting how Appley posts that he will post soon and immediatly posts when someone attacks his post.

[AppleyNO]

I have an idea to contribute something.

What counts as contributing?

I'm covering my ass and posting a role list that is 100% guessing.
There is either Framer/Consig or Janitor/Consort IMO. Its really standard and Glip doesn't want to mess up his first SFM.
Godfather
Framer/Consort
Consig/Janitor
Glip also said he wanted to test out his night chat forums. Cultist maybe?
Cult Leader/Cultist If there is a cult, can a cultist take the random slot instead of Cult Leader?
All day err day.
Jester
Town should have 1/2 Protective roles, 3 investigative roles, and a killing role. Here we go.
Lookout/Detective
Bodyguard/Doctor
Escort/Bus Driver
Mason Leader/Mason/Investigator Same question as cultist, except with Masons.
Sheriff
Vigilante/Jailor
Citizen
Citizen

Thats my guesses.

[AppleyNO]

My reasoning was in FM14, he was SK, posted a lot of bland nothing posts and led the whole town. Starting in a very similar manner.
And then I posted a 100% guessed role list O.o

[AppleyNO]

I also find it interesting how Appley posts that he will post soon and immediatly posts when someone attacks his post.
Was taking out trash </3

[Damus_Graves]

Interesting. Very Interesting. I can already see the slots you could claim to be as based on your role list guess

[Espozito]

Hi there, guys, gl hf everyone!

[creedkingsx]

I'll bite.
My list:

Godfather
Framer
Consig
Arsonist
Jester/executioner
Lookout
Doctor
Escort
Mayor/Mason Leader
Sheriff
Jailor
Citizen/detective
Citizen

My list.

[CmG]

Hiho, Appleys list looks totaly legit! He will be our Town leader! All hail Appley!

[CmG]

I'll bite.
My list:

Godfather
Framer
Consig
Arsonist
Jester/executioner
Lookout
Doctor
Escort
Mayor/Mason Leader
Sheriff
Jailor
Citizen/detective
Citizen

My list.

OMG! Even better Creed for town leader! Appley is now scum in my book, since his list was half assed!

[creedkingsx]

OMG! Even better Creed for town leader! Appley is now scum in my book, since his list was half assed!

obviously. :o

[Glip]

What counts as contributing?


It's an arbitrary decision made by me. My advice is you be active enough to cover your ass so that there's no question as to whether or not you should be replaced.

If there is a cult, can a cultist take the random slot instead of Cult Leader?

As the roles list states, yes, but a Cultist spawned would automatically "replace" the Cult Leader, albeit without a vest.

Same question as cultist, except with Masons.

Same answer as cultist, except with Masons.

Answered.

[Damus_Graves]

I actually agree with creeds role list. It fits a little bit better even though it is basically a repost of appleys list

[AppleyNO]

But there are 2 confirmed Citizens

[Damus_Graves]

yes indeed. i wonder what creedkingsx was doing by making such a rolelist

[creedkingsx]

yes indeed. i wonder what creedkingsx was doing by making such a rolelist

Looking to see who would agree with me. ;)

[clementine]

My reasoning was in FM14, he was SK, posted a lot of bland nothing posts and led the whole town. Starting in a very similar manner.

I agree with this. The last few games I played with Appley he has lurked while town.

-vote AppleyNO

My question now is why hasn't creed voted AppleyNO yet since creed was the one to identify key components in appley's scum play present already in this game.

[creedkingsx]

I figured to give him a bit of the benefit of the doubt. :P
Why not start early thoughm always leads us well into the next couple days for s-fm's.
-vote AppleyNO

[Damus_Graves]

Interesting. I believe I know what AppleyNO would claim when pressured. -vote AppleyNO

[creedkingsx]

presumably, Sheriff.

[Damus_Graves]

presumably, Sheriff.

That was my thoughts as well.

[creedkingsx]

That was my thoughts as well.

:P

[Fatalis]

OH MY GOD I HAVEN'T CONTRIBUTED !
MUST MAKE ROLE LIST
Godfather
Framer
Consort
Cult Leader
Executioner
Sheriff/Invest
Detective/Lookout
Veteran/Vigilante/Jailor
Doctor
Bus Driver
Mason Leader
Citizen
Citizen

Cult Leader

[Fatalis]

And I pressed post prematurely again..
Following that I meant to say Cult Leader and Executioner are probably going to appear because they like never appear in any S-FM, ever

[AppleyNO]

Only Clem would push a lynch on Day Zero with no evidence besides the fact that I didn't want to be replaced.

[AppleyNO]

-Vote Clementine

Yo dawg, I heard you like votes.
So I put a vote against a vote that was on a vote that was on a vote.

[creedkingsx]

I think it would go either cult leader or Jailor, for terms of night chats, and I feel Jailor is easier to manage for a first fm.
Arsonist has shown to be a really great role in fm, albeit the worst of the killers, but still.
I feel there is some kind of Town Leader role. Mayor or Mason Leader. I leave Mason Leader open on the chance of Cult, but I am leaning more to Mayor.

[AppleyNO]

And now to wait for the response.

Im already laughing.

[creedkingsx]

And now to wait for the response.

Im already laughing.

cause of your inceptive inception of wifom?

[clementine]

And I pressed post prematurely again..
Following that I meant to say Cult Leader and Executioner are probably going to appear because they like never appear in any S-FM, ever

Well, technically cult mechanics aren't supposed to appear in S-FM as per the strict rules, but I think that setup approvals have become a lot more lax about this. Also, I've been executioner in a s-fm before. It was Escaho's s-fm. Oh the good memories of writing a fake jail log to try to get Goremancer lynched! :P


-Vote Clementine

Yo dawg, I heard you like votes.
So I put a vote against a vote that was on a vote that was on a vote.

Want to explain this, or is this purely OMGUS?

[AppleyNO]

cause of your inceptive inception of wifom?
Yo dawg.

jkjk not doing that again.

But in all seriousness, I don't understand how Clem can vote me first thing cause I lurk as town sometimes, and I'm not lurking now. THEN get you and Damus to follow.
:P

[AppleyNO]

Want to explain this, or is this purely OMGUS?
Mostly. I also voted you because your first order of business is to post about how I am scum and process to get a lynch train started on me.

inb4 Exe/Mafia

[creedkingsx]

Yo dawg.

jkjk not doing that again.

But in all seriousness, I don't understand how Clem can vote me first thing cause I lurk as town sometimes, and I'm not lurking now. THEN get you and Damus to follow.
:P

To be fair, I already called you out. Just figured I would wait for you to respond to what I'd said. ^.^

[Damus_Graves]

To be fair: Im pressuring you.

[AppleyNO]

To be fair, I already called you out. Just figured I would wait for you to respond to what I'd said. ^.^
Oh I missed that.

Then clem not only started a lynch train in her first post, she also added nothing to the discussion.

Great.
I hate your meta, and everything to do with it. I'm keeping my vote due to above sentence.

[AppleyNO]

To be fair: Im pressuring you.
To be fair: You can't sheep in this game. Not with these players.

[Damus_Graves]

To be fair: You can't sheep in this game. Not with these players.

do i detect aggression and general scum tells coming from you Appley?

[AppleyNO]

Executioner is probably going to appear because they like never appear in any S-FM, ever
Read Halo 1, poor Gingerape.

[AppleyNO]

do i detect aggression and general scum tells coming from you Appley?
Aggression, yes. Scum tells, I hope not.

Sorry, I'm on edge cause my dad was supposed to be back from this business trip Wednesday Morning, and he wont be here for another 2 hours or so.

[Damus_Graves]

Aggression, yes. Scum tells, I hope not.

Sorry, I'm on edge cause my dad was supposed to be back from this business trip Wednesday Morning, and he wont be here for another 2 hours or so.

Now the question becomes are you the type of player that lets IRL stuff affect his gameplay

[AppleyNO]

Clem, I feel the train on me was formed out of nothing, and here I am throwing fire to make it a legit train.
sigh

Damus, I understand that you are pressuring me, and I feel at the beginning it was a bad move to follow a ghost train. Again, here I am xD

[AppleyNO]

Ima claim so we can move on, you guys ready?

Take out your notepads.

[creedkingsx]

Who has notepads? i use Word, nigga.
loljk I don't take notes.

[AppleyNO]

Detective.

With a grand total of nothing to back it up.

I'm glad we could make a target out of myself.

[clementine]

Oh I missed that.

Then clem not only started a lynch train in her first post, she also added nothing to the discussion.

Great.
I hate your meta, and everything to do with it. I'm keeping my vote due to above sentence.

To be fair, I just like pushing trains and seeing who follows me. Are scum creed and scum damus more likely to follow clem, or are town creed and town damus more likely to follow me? This is how I gather information. (I see you taking notes on this, Damus :P)

[creedkingsx]

What a boring claim.
:D
meh.

[Damus_Graves]

-unvote

alright. Interesting.

[AppleyNO]

Oh and -Unvote

[Damus_Graves]

To be fair, I just like pushing trains and seeing who follows me. Are scum creed and scum damus more likely to follow clem, or are town creed and town damus more likely to follow me? This is how I gather information. (I see you taking notes on this, Damus :P)

Who me?

[creedkingsx]

If I unvote will the end results of appley not being lynch make me look more scummy? :o

I am lazy, sue me. :D

[creedkingsx]

Who me?

That's her way of saying, "I was hoping for a mislynch but you actually claimed and now I look scummy. Quick push blame on other people. :D"

[creedkingsx]

I think I might lurk for the next hour.
Go.

[clementine]

Detective.

With a grand total of nothing to back it up.

I'm glad we could make a target out of myself.

This sounds a lot to me like a more sophisticated version of Paulus's early cit claim before he was even at L-(close to being lynched). Agree or disagree?

Any thoughts?

I'll have to think about this more, but I guess there's not much point in keeping my vote here anymore.
-unvote

[AppleyNO]

This sounds a lot to me like a more sophisticated version of Paulus's early cit claim before he was even at L-(close to being lynched). Agree or disagree?

Any thoughts?

I'll have to think about this more, but I guess there's not much point in keeping my vote here anymore.
-unvote
You are pushing way to hard clem. way to hard.

I also Disagree. I claimed because I didn't want to have to fight through the layer of scum you kicked up on me. Then I claimed so no one would talk about me.

[AppleyNO]

Then I claimed so no one would talk about me.
Then being FM14

[CmG]

wow what the fuck is going on here? hilarious! Doctor , bd, bg don't guard any of those trainers. :D

[creedkingsx]

wow what the fuck is going on here? hilarious! Doctor , bd, bg don't guard any of those trainers. :D

Trainers?
:o

[Damus_Graves]

lynch train-ers Creed

[CmG]

Trainers?
:o

yeah well pressure voting on day 1 is stupid. Since you guys aren't noobs anymore i guess you try to wifom scum here so you won't get shot tonight, or you are the obvious mafia. Time will tell and night actions of course.

Right now you look like scum to me. But this doesn't mean you are the real deal. I won't just be surprised if you flip mafia in the end.

[AppleyNO]

Damn it CmG, where were you 15 minutes ago?

[CmG]

inb4 i get shot tonight since you all fear me as fuck :-P

@Appley playing Crusader Kings 2 swry

[creedkingsx]

You aren't very scary CmG :P

[Roflcopter]

*Here comes the SCMafia Logic*

Clementine started a lynch train that revealed a town role. Clementine is obviously mafia.

-vote clementine

[Damus_Graves]

*Here comes the SCMafia Logic*

Clementine started a lynch train that revealed a town role. Clementine is obviously mafia.

-vote clementine

what do you think of creedkingsx posts and cmg posts?

[CmG]

Asking others while not giving any insights what you think about them. Is scummy. :-P

[Damus_Graves]

Asking others while not giving any insights what you think about them. Is scummy. :-P

I want to hear his thoughts as he is newer to the game then we are. Learning experience CmG.

[creedkingsx]

Isn't this fun everyone. ^.^

[Damus_Graves]

Isn't this fun everyone. ^.^

games with CmG are always fun

[CmG]

games with CmG are always fun

That's what she said!

[clementine]

*Here comes the SCMafia Logic*

Clementine started a lynch train that revealed a town role. Clementine is obviously mafia.

-vote clementine

@ Roflcopter, my question for you is: is it my lynch train that revealed a town role, OR AppleyNO's hasty claim at.... *counts on fingers* L-4 that revealed a town role? If anything, AppleyNO is anti-town for role claiming so soon. Therefore, you should wonder what AppleyNO's motivations for claiming detective so early are. Do you truly believe AppleyNO is who he claims to be? I can think of half a dozen town and scum motivated reasons. Only time will tell.



inb4 i get shot tonight since you all fear me as fuck :-P

@Appley playing Crusader Kings 2 swry
Also of note, @CmG why are you so convinced that you will die tonight? Stop playing so much CK2!! ;(


@Espozito, what do you think of AppleyNO's early claim? Do you think he is to be trusted and his claim is to be taken at face value?

[clementine]

-vote Fatalis

I see him posting in another S-FM but not in here. Policy lynch all lurkers, anyone?
Or maybe just encourage him to post here sooner rather than later?

[creedkingsx]

-vote Fatalis

I see him posting in another S-FM but not in here. Policy lynch all lurkers, anyone?
Or maybe just encourage him to post here sooner rather than later?

Being active.
Long posts.
Asking questions.
Making votes.

scummy clem? ;o

[Roflcopter]

I don't know much about all the fancy WIFOMing, but to me it looks like clementine is something evil, creed is non-cit town, and cmg is cit.

[Apocist]

1. clementine
2. AppleyNO
3. Jr4life24
4. Fatalis
5. creedkingsx
6. Damus_Graves
7. Chane
8. Espozito
9. CmG
10. wightsnow
11. Roflcopter
12. Apocist
13. straykiwi


Yo playas

Curious what it means when a players number is green

[Damus_Graves]

Yo playas

Curious what it means when a players number is green

They've Posted somthing that contributes

[Jr4life24]

I'm about to head off to school, I will post when i get back and i'm actually fully awake for the day

[Fatalis]

-vote Fatalis

I see him posting in another S-FM but not in here. Policy lynch all lurkers, anyone?
Or maybe just encourage him to post here sooner rather than later?

I mega scummeh :3
I could make a 100 word analysis of this game.. but I rather do it tomorrow cuz I am mega scummeh

[Fatalis]

I also want to point out the fact that I am acting scummy

[Espozito]

I also want to point out the fact that I am acting scummy

So do we, mate. So do we.

Trying to realise the path of thoughts around here, but prefer not to train vote or even vote on trololo day =3

[CmG]

I don't know much about all the fancy WIFOMing, but to me it looks like clementine is something evil, creed is non-cit town, and cmg is cit.

Would you explain why you think that? I read clem as town wifoming scum to not get shot tonight. Creed looks like his normal mafia play so far. Maybe you ve seen something i didn't? Please enlighten me on your thought processes behind this.

@Apocist: Care to share your thoughts?

@Espozito: If you just watch and don't contribute we can't read you which is bad.

[Glip]

Hold on, everyone! We need to pause the game for a...

SUPER SECRET SURPRISE SUNRISE DAY EVENT!

Nope. Just kidding. There's no day event.

Or is there?

[CmG]

Hold on, everyone! We need to pause the game for a...

SUPER SECRET SURPRISE SUNRISE DAY EVENT!

Nope. Just kidding. There's no day event.

Or is there?

What are you thinking about the players? Either contribute or get modkilled! ;D

[Fatalis]

Can you read me CMG :D

[Glip]

What are you thinking about the players? Either contribute or get modkilled! ;D

I think that one or two or a few or all or none of the players here may or may not be surprising and/or predictable plus need to post more...

>.>

[Fatalis]

MUST POST MORE

[Fatalis]

OMG ESPOZITO Y U NO TALK? U BROWSING THIS THREAD!

[Espozito]

@Espozito: If you just watch and don't contribute we can't read you which is bad.

Hmm... I agree with you. I'm new in FM and I suppose nobody here knows how I act and how I don't. I can act scummy so mafia will try to frame or just get town attention to me. Or a Jailor might think I am scum and will jail me. Well, if he does that I will just thank him for a perfect protection from the evildoers.
I may act like jester, an obv jester, but in that case town will think that i'm a bluffing mafia, so that strategy is out for me.
I may also talk more and more so that you will waste a night to check me and mafia will find me too obv target to attack, meanwhile I can be just a doc or sheriff who gets rid of maf attention.

As for my own opinion, I know noone here, but everyone seems to be a pro of FM.

CmG is funny, he posts nice replies to others' posts
Damus strongly holds the discussion and likes to pressure people, i wouldn't like to be pointed by his FoS
AppleyNO is an active player aswell, I think he is townie
I don't know about Chane as he acted like scum in another FM

I think that all my contribution here is just a piece of bs as I've never made any of contributions. Again, a newbie in da hauz.

Anything else?

[CmG]

Can you read me CMG :D

There is like always not much to read from you. "shrugs" I think you are....

[Espozito]

MUST POST MORE

Fatalis is kinda bored or smth, he wants the game to continue and continue. Means he has an aim for the day to end, means he has an "interesting" night ability. I'd say he is jailor or inv/consig, who wants the sun to set down and go for a walk at night.

[CmG]

yeah he might want into his night chat with his friends to shoot us all ded! D:

[Espozito]

yeah he might want into his night chat with his friends to shoot us all ded! D:

This theory fits aswell, but it's too obv.

[Damus_Graves]

FINALLY! I beat the ruddy bastard.



Alright Fatalis shut up. You are full on retard or obvious scum. none of your posts are useful and are clearly designed to be obnoxious enough to divert attention from others. Mafia friends getting pressured hmm?
secondly you are doing absolutly nothing useful to town expect wasting our time on you. Shut up or get in the game.


Clem why you gotta push lynches so hard day one? It's like your trying to look as scummy as possible.

CmG the only guy that looks remotely like town to me atm.

Rofl - townie no doubt about. just look at his posts and it screams I HAVE NO F****** NIGHT ABILITY!!! Citizen or mason.

[CmG]

Fatalis is always pretty obvious. He doesn't write much but he likes to do power statements like. I SHOOT U DED TONIGHT IF YOU DON'T POST SOMETHING and stuff. If he is scum he just lurks hardcore and does not contribute much. If he is town he still does not contribute much but he is not that lurky.

You ll see it sooner or later. That's why we use anonym accounts for the bigger games. You can just analyse the patterns of the players most of the time to know which alignment they have.

Does not work for everyone though.

[Espozito]

FINALLY! I beat the ruddy bastard.



Alright Fatalis shut up. You are full on retard or obvious scum. none of your posts are useful and are clearly designed to be obnoxious enough to divert attention from others. Mafia friends getting pressured hmm?
secondly you are doing absolutly nothing useful to town expect wasting our time on you. Shut up or get in the game.


Clem why you gotta push lynches so hard day one? It's like your trying to look as scummy as possible.

CmG the only guy that looks remotely like town to me atm.

Rofl - townie no doubt about. just look at his posts and it screams I HAVE NO F****** NIGHT ABILITY!!! Citizen or mason.

Here. Short. Smart. Epic. Now he's the town leader for me =D

[CmG]

Which makes you and him teammates in my list. =)

[Fatalis]

Fatalis is always pretty obvious. He doesn't write much but he likes to do power statements like. I SHOOT U DED TONIGHT IF YOU DON'T POST SOMETHING and stuff. If he is scum he just lurks hardcore and does not contribute much. If he is town he still does not contribute much but he is not that lurky.

You ll see it sooner or later. That's why we use anonym accounts for the bigger games. You can just analyse the patterns of the players most of the time to know which alignment they have.

Does not work for everyone though.
Fuck
-shoot CmG

[Espozito]

Which makes you and him teammates in my list. =)

Well, yeah, finding players who act together is a nice strategy))

[Damus_Graves]

Which makes you and him teammates in my list. =)

No.


Here. Short. Smart. Epic. Now he's the town leader for me =D

Um thank you?

[Espozito]

I still think that Fatalis is just a troll. Acting like scum or an obv jester giving no opinions and just these trolling posts out, he possibly tries to get mafia kill away from him. He is just too obv to be maf target, but as i always say:

To spot out the evildoers ALWAYS check the ones whom you wouldn't EVER check.

By this rule, I think we gotta check Fatalis unless his trolling becomes FATal for us.

[CmG]

I still think that Fatalis is just a troll. Acting like scum or an obv jester giving no opinions and just these trolling posts out, he possibly tries to get mafia kill away from him. He is just too obv to be maf target, but as i always say:

To spot out the evildoers ALWAYS check the ones whom you wouldn't EVER check.

By this rule, I think we gotta check Fatalis unless his trolling becomes FATal for us.

Well, don't tell town what to do. It's a classical scum tell. Imagine the Mafia has a framer. Who would he frame tonight? The more you try to get the town night actions together at day the more easy it gets for the bad guys at night.

[Damus_Graves]

Well, don't tell town what to do. It's a classical scum tell. Imagine the Mafia has a framer. Who would he frame tonight? The more you try to get the town night actions together at day the more easy it gets for the bad guys at night.

Or give in groups.

EX: Check chane, glip, fatalis, damus

[Damus_Graves]

town leader for me

i dun wanna be town leader. CMG! you be town leader.

[Espozito]

Well, don't tell town what to do. It's a classical scum tell. Imagine the Mafia has a framer. Who would he frame tonight? The more you try to get the town night actions together at day the more easy it gets for the bad guys at night.

Ah, hell, I got so much more to learn'a'bout -_-

[CmG]

i dun wanna be town leader. CMG! you be town leader.

But i get shot tonight D:

[CmG]

Funfact i had my lw already written b4 Day 1 went up! ^^

[Damus_Graves]

But i get shot tonight D:

but i dont trust clem to be town leader >>

[Damus_Graves]

Chane why havent you posted?

[clementine]

FINALLY! I beat the ruddy bastard.



Alright Fatalis shut up. You are full on retard or obvious scum. none of your posts are useful and are clearly designed to be obnoxious enough to divert attention from others. Mafia friends getting pressured hmm?
secondly you are doing absolutly nothing useful to town expect wasting our time on you. Shut up or get in the game.


Clem why you gotta push lynches so hard day one? It's like your trying to look as scummy as possible.

CmG the only guy that looks remotely like town to me atm.

Rofl - townie no doubt about. just look at his posts and it screams I HAVE NO F****** NIGHT ABILITY!!! Citizen or mason.

@ Damus: commenting on the likelihood of others having town PR night actions is very anti town. Why point things out for scum? Make them figure it out themselves. This is not as bad as you divulging the jailor's identity but in my mind its another example of bad town play. Write this stuff in your notes and ponder quietly.

And to Fatalis, Roflcopter, and everyone who thinks its a good idea to WIFOM scum or jester... Guess what! It's not a good idea! You make town PR waste night actions on you tonight. Everyone just needs to post a lot and stimulate discussion so we can begin to see connections emerging in daychat. That's why I happen to like random voting on day 1. It doesn't have to be a troll day - anyone who treats it as such is exhibiting anti-town behavior. This ain't sc2mafia, sheeples, and Clem is in this game. So of course I'm going to expect a lot more from you guys than jester WIFOM. Too newb scum!

[clementine]

but i dont trust clem to be town leader >>

My situation sorts itself on its own. If I flip town in the graveyard that's your cue to re-examine my reads. If I'm still alive at LYLO you wonder to yourself if its all WIFOM or if I'm scum.

[Damus_Graves]

@ Damus: commenting on the likelihood of others having town PR night actions is very anti town. Why point things out for scum? Make them figure it out themselves. This is not as bad as you divulging the jailor's identity but in my mind its another example of bad town play. Write this stuff in your notes and ponder quietly.

who said i had notes? ^.^


Driving lynches day one is anti town as well.

[Damus_Graves]

Serious:

I pointed it out because I have seen Rofl play and he plays scummy like. Based on his posts I made the open analyzes I did because he will dig a deeper and deeper scum hole for himself with his reactions. Now if he s scum and is playing me then kudos for him but i believe him to be town

[clementine]

who said i had notes? ^.^


Driving lynches day one is anti town as well.

Damus, why do you claim driving lynches D1 is anti town? Towns biggest tool is the lynch and vote count analysis to try to prove scum connections. In fact, I counter argue you that day 1 trolling is more anti town than day 1 pressure voting.

The only thing anti town about the train on Appley is him claiming at L-4.

All in all I have helped generate topics of discussion for people to take a stand on regarding their scumminess and towniness. I think stimulating discussion is, in fact, pro town.

[Damus_Graves]

Damus, why do you claim driving lynches D1 is anti town? Towns biggest tool is the lynch and vote count analysis to try to prove scum connections. In fact, I counter argue you that day 1 trolling is more anti town than day 1 pressure voting.

The only thing anti town about the train on Appley is him claiming at L-4.

All in all I have helped generate topics of discussion for people to take a stand on regarding their scumminess and towniness. I think stimulating discussion is, in fact, pro town.

Your argument is strictly based upon you believing your actions have been in the best interests of town. While I do not disregard their help I do question the choices for your day one lynch pushes. Appley? And based on One post? it doesnt make sense and it hindered town. A pressure train on Fatalis or even Creed would have had more basis than Appley.

(I am NOT defending Appley. I believe his claim was rushed but his claimed role is not a general Scum claim.)

[Chane]

-unvote

beehhhh

[Chane]

Damus, why do you claim driving lynches D1 is anti town? Towns biggest tool is the lynch and vote count analysis to try to prove scum connections. In fact, I counter argue you that day 1 trolling is more anti town than day 1 pressure voting.

The only thing anti town about the train on Appley is him claiming at L-4.

All in all I have helped generate topics of discussion for people to take a stand on regarding their scumminess and towniness. I think stimulating discussion is, in fact, pro town.

agreed.

[Damus_Graves]

Chane do not let the other FM impead your game in this one. Each FM is a clean slate and a fresh start.

[Roflcopter]

I'm obviously not evil.

(Anyway, these are my reads on people)

Clementine seems to be having a strong interest in trying to "Herd" the town, claiming that anyone going against, is trying to act like a jester or scum. This leads me to believe clementine is probably a member of the mafia, understanding enough support can be gotten from fellow mafia to play as a (town leader?). If I had to GUESS an exact role, i'd say GF.

Assuming that read is correct, it may not be, the voters that voted right with, may be the other mafia members.

So on second thought, creed may even be a mafia role, seeing as how he subtly defends clem.
This againt, assumes that clem is mafia, which I believe is true.

CmG seems to be playing differently then when he was a power-town role in a different FM, more "casually" so he seems cit to me.

[creedkingsx]

That would assume clem was mafia :o

[Glip]

NOTICE:

Depending on certain unknown circumstances, it is possible that this day may be extended by up to two hours. If it happens, night will still end at the normal time, 10 PM EDT tomorrow.

I will make another announcement if it appears that day won't have to be extended. For now, assume it will.

[Apocist]

Have to agree, clem appears scummy with the push more lynching in only day 1.

CmG, you're obviously leads most of the posts, I'd say you would make the best town leader.

[creedkingsx]

Let us join in the traditional "Clem must die by Day 2" :D

[Apocist]

Let us join in the traditional "Clem must die by Day 2" :D

hey if it's tradition...why gotta follow it right?

[straykiwi]

Is one post enough contribution?
I can post more but ... it's day 1. Theres nothing to say.

I had issues getting into my account until now. Almost posted with the wrong account! (damus lol)


-vote creedkingsx

[AppleyNO]

Hello

I am back. Glad you guys ignored my awesome reasoning for claiming. Which doesn't seem that awesome now.

I also biked 12 miles to school because I woke up late.


While clem seems scummy, I realize that it is only due to her playing aggressively and using a lot of meta. I'm going to reread the chat and see if what I think about everyone.

[Damus_Graves]

Is one post enough contribution?
I can post more but ... it's day 1. Theres nothing to say.

I had issues getting into my account until now. Almost posted with the wrong account! (damus lol)


-vote creedkingsx

what the? random vote much?

[clementine]

I'm obviously not evil.

(Anyway, these are my reads on people)

Clementine seems to be having a strong interest in trying to "Herd" the town, claiming that anyone going against, is trying to act like a jester or scum. This leads me to believe clementine is probably a member of the mafia, understanding enough support can be gotten from fellow mafia to play as a (town leader?). If I had to GUESS an exact role, i'd say GF.

Assuming that read is correct, it may not be, the voters that voted right with, may be the other mafia members.

So on second thought, creed may even be a mafia role, seeing as how he subtly defends clem.
This againt, assumes that clem is mafia, which I believe is true.

CmG seems to be playing differently then when he was a power-town role in a different FM, more "casually" so he seems cit to me.

@Roflcopter, I have some questions for you:
1. Do you think speculating about people's roles in daychat is pro town or anti town and why?
2. Do you believe that mafia would vote straight out of the gate as a voting block on Day 1? (i.e. the train of me, creed, and Damus on AppleyNO)
3. Why did you neglect to mention Damus in your post about me and the train on appley? Often times scum will avoid mentioning their scum partners in day chat and flat out ignore them. Much like you have done to Damus in your analysis thus far.
4. What is your opinion of Damus?

@Espozito, do you believe speculation about people's roles in daychat is pro-town or anti town and why? What is your opinion on creedkingsx and Fatalis?


Have to agree, clem appears scummy with the push more lynching in only day 1.

CmG, you're obviously leads most of the posts, I'd say you would make the best town leader.

@Apocist, I have a few questions for you, too.
1. Do you think scum would want to try to appear scummy in daychat by pushing day 1 lynch trains?
2. Can you point out specific posts or ideas from CmG that make you trust him enough to say he would be the best town leader?
3. What do you think of AppleyNO's premature detective claim at L-4?

@Chane
1. What do you think of AppleyNO's prematurely detective claim at L-4?
2. What is your opinion of Fatalis's play thus far? Do you think he is pro-town or anti-town for the jester WIFOM by "purposefully acting scummy" (Post #83)?

@Fatalis What do you hope to accomplish by acting scummy (of your own admission in post#83)? Even if you don't answer this today, I expect you to answer this question on a later day.

[clementine]

I'm obviously not evil.

(Anyway, these are my reads on people)

Clementine seems to be having a strong interest in trying to "Herd" the town, claiming that anyone going against, is trying to act like a jester or scum. This leads me to believe clementine is probably a member of the mafia, understanding enough support can be gotten from fellow mafia to play as a (town leader?). If I had to GUESS an exact role, i'd say GF.

Assuming that read is correct, it may not be, the voters that voted right with, may be the other mafia members.

So on second thought, creed may even be a mafia role, seeing as how he subtly defends clem.
This againt, assumes that clem is mafia, which I believe is true.

CmG seems to be playing differently then when he was a power-town role in a different FM, more "casually" so he seems cit to me.


Have to agree, clem appears scummy with the push more lynching in only day 1.

CmG, you're obviously leads most of the posts, I'd say you would make the best town leader.


Is one post enough contribution?
I can post more but ... it's day 1. Theres nothing to say.

I had issues getting into my account until now. Almost posted with the wrong account! (damus lol)


-vote creedkingsx

@Straykiwi I have some questions for you:
1. What do you think about AppleyNO's detective claim at L-4?
2. Do you think CmG is scummy?
3. What is your opinion on Fatalis's post #83 where he declares he is purposefully acting scummy?

[clementine]

Whoops, I guess those first two quotes were stuck in my multiquote. please disregard, as i meant only to quote straykiwi in #133

[Damus_Graves]

Whoops, I guess those first two quotes were stuck in my multiquote. please disregard, as i meant only to quote straykiwi in #133

I want some questions... >>

[Damus_Graves]

My projected role list:

Godfather
Framer
Consort

Jester/Executioner/Survivor

Cultist


Lookout
Doctor
Escort
Mason Leader
Sheriff
Jailor
Citizen
Citizen

[Damus_Graves]

My projected role list:

Godfather
Framer
Consort

Jester/Executioner/Survivor

Cultist


Lookout
Doctor
Escort
Mason Leader
Sheriff
Mason
Citizen
Citizen

Corrected

[AppleyNO]

So that means your don't believe my Detective claim, Damus?

[Damus_Graves]

So that means your don't believe my Detective claim, Damus?

I generalized with what I expect to show up. I didn't want to be fallacious(?) and steal your list.

[AppleyNO]

Clem, why do you think CmG is scummy? Because he questioned you?
O.o

[straykiwi]

Yes CMG is scummy, he might be SK.

Don't know about appley

[creedkingsx]

I don't believe your detective claim appley.
Too simple of a claim for anyone who has played this game a few times, so I expect you to be either
A: a more important town PR
B: a Citizen or
C: Scum.

[Damus_Graves]

I don't believe your detective claim appley.
Too simple of a claim for anyone who has played this game a few times, so I expect you to be either
A: a more important town PR
B: a Citizen or
C: Scum.

AKA:

Appley could be any role in the game

[clementine]

Clem, why do you think CmG is scummy? Because he questioned you?
O.o

When did I say I think CmG is scummy? Maybe you're projecting your views onto me. Let's ask you a question then... AppleyNO, why do YOU think CmG is scummy?


Yes CMG is scummy, he might be SK.

Don't know about appley

@straykiwi, why specifically do you think CmG might be a sk and not mafia? Could this be a scumslip? You know he is not mafia since he is not on your mafia team, therefore the scum slot he could fill is one of a sk? Why do you believe there is likely to be a SK as opposed to one of the other killing neutrals?

[clementine]

-vote straykiwi

[Damus_Graves]

I see clem taking over as town leader.
interesting.

*takes notes*

[creedkingsx]

I am actually impressed with the way clem is going about this.
Being just scummy enough that she won't die tonight from mafia/neutrals. Yes leading just enough that we don't want to straight kill her or lynch her. Protection from all factions.
And because of this assumption and play, it leaves it difficult to read what she may be without extensive meta.
Only problem is that Clem is known for literally random.org'ing a strategy from a list of strategies and sticking to that regardless of her alignment so meta is out.
Actually, I am not sure if she is known for that, I just know at one point she used to do that or something along those lines and I assume she still does as it is a great way to avoid meta.
So where does that leave us?
Fucked.

[AppleyNO]

Well clem, I assume that asking everyone if they think CmG is scummy, you are either asking everyone if they don't like him so you can train him, or to see how your team member looks to other players.

[Damus_Graves]

CLEM I WANT QUESTIONS!!!!!!!1



plz.

[straykiwi]

That is not a scumslip. I just think he's sk. if there is one

[Fatalis]

@Clem there are 2 goals for 2 different alignments someone could hope to accomplish :3
@Straykiwi you're suspicious as fuck for obvious reasons
@Creed seems kinda confused
@Appley most likely citizen and shit
@CmG maybe mafia... maybe... He's usually either super pro town or super scummy from the games I played
@Damus I haven't got a good read yet
@Roflcopter same with damus
@Ezposito seems to buddy up with Damus, but I guess they are PROBABLY not in the same team since that would be a total suicide
Did I miss anyone?

[Fatalis]

That is not a scumslip. I just think he's sk. if there is one

Why SK? Why not Arson? Cult Leader? Or anything else?

[Fatalis]

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[Damus_Graves]

That is not a scumslip. I just think he's sk. if there is one

It's a scumslip.


@Damus I haven't got a good read yet
@Roflcopter same with damus
@Ezposito seems to buddy up with Damus, but I guess they are PROBABLY not in the same team since that would be a total suicide

What? serious please expand

[creedkingsx]

I'm so confused :(







































lolwut

[Fatalis]

It's a scumslip.



What? serious please expand
Expand what?

[creedkingsx]

11 people are watching us guys. We are so cool!

[Damus_Graves]

Expand what?

your grouping of me rofl and eszpo.

[creedkingsx]

your grouping of me rofl and eszpo.

or lack there of. :P

[Fatalis]

your grouping of me rofl and eszpo.

I didn't group you, what I did is
1. Mention that I haven't got a good read of you and Roflcopter, INDIVIDUALLY
2. Relate Ezpo's behavior with yours
Actually that is kinda group-ish
NO MATTER

[Damus_Graves]

I didn't group you, what I did is
1. Mention that I haven't got a good read of you and Roflcopter, INDIVIDUALLY
2. Relate Ezpo's behavior with yours
Actually that is kinda group-ish
NO MATTER

>>
my name was listed on each of their segments mate. that sends a subconscious signal to the other players to group us together

[creedkingsx]

>>
my name was listed on each of their segments mate. that sends a subconscious signal to the other players to group us together

Maybe Fatalis is mafia with them and is telling them that he want to kill you. :o

[Damus_Graves]

Maybe Fatalis is mafia with them and is telling them that he want to kill you. :o
;(

[Fatalis]

:O

[clementine]

Well clem, I assume that asking everyone if they think CmG is scummy, you are either asking everyone if they don't like him so you can train him, or to see how your team member looks to other players.

Asking everyone!? Hardly!! I only asked straykiwi for his opinion on CmG. This is because straykiwi bears a grudge against CmG because Wicket the devourer ate straykiwi in FM13. This has biased straykiwi's read of CmG to be scum. If straykiwi had answered that CmG is likely to be town, that would have raised a lot of red flags in my mind. Because of straykiwi's answer I feel comfortable inferring that if straykiwi is mafia, CmG is not also mafia.

It's interesting how you have some weird fascination with CmG and are trying to insinuate that I think he is scummy.


CLEM I WANT QUESTIONS!!!!!!!1



plz.

You're the kind of guy who will tell me more about his alignment if I don't ask him questions. :P

Or maybe I'm just asking questions to encourage sparse posters to post more and you already are active enough for my liking?

[creedkingsx]

Just a pre-warning, I will be gone until late sunday night from this post on. I will try to post from my phone, when I can, but this is a heads up to all of you.
Leave my vote here:
-unvote
-vote Fatalis

[Jr4life24]

Ok guys i am back, Give me 1 second to read. Somethings came up which prevented me from posting when i got back

[clementine]

Well clem, I assume that asking everyone if they think CmG is scummy, you are either asking everyone if they don't like him so you can train him, or to see how your team member looks to other players.


CLEM I WANT QUESTIONS!!!!!!!1



plz.


Just a pre-warning, I will be gone until late sunday night from this post on. I will try to post from my phone, when I can, but this is a heads up to all of you.
Leave my vote here:
-unvote
-vote Fatalis

Will your mafia teammates be submitting night actions for you?

[clementine]

Hmm, I don't know why the multiquote function keeps messing up. #168 is supposed to only quote Creed.

[Jr4life24]

Will your mafia teammates be submitting night actions for you?
Well wouldn't that mean you would be submitting it for him?
:P

[Damus_Graves]

You're the kind of guy who will tell me more about his alignment if I don't ask him questions. :P

Or maybe I'm just asking questions to encourage sparse posters to post more and you already are active enough for my liking?

ending the trolling.

This is utter crap. You can't infer my alignment based on my reserved posting, which you have tried to get me to do all day clem.

[Jr4life24]

trainers. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHkKJfcBXcw

[Fatalis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHkKJfcBXcw
Y U ACT SCUMMY BY NAWT CONTRIBUTING?

[Jr4life24]

Y U ACT SCUMMY BY NAWT CONTRIBUTING?
Because no one is talking. And i do not feel like reading troll day much. >.>

[Damus_Graves]

Clementine: Leads day chat with aggressive pressure votes and a show of her analysis. Calls most people who clash with her scum and attempts to find scum groupings in all the posters posted thus far.

AppleyNO: Gets early accused of being scum and claims early "Detective" to draw back suspicions. Proceeds then to post little meaningful posts that do nothing to dissolve the scum radiating off of him.

Rofl: Townie clearly overwhelmed and feels pressure to preform.

Chane: See lurker.

Stray: Scumslips by calling CmG SK and not scum. Insinuates that Stray is mafia and knows CmG is not mafia.

-vote straykiwi

[clementine]

ending the trolling.

This is utter crap. You can't infer my alignment based on my reserved posting, which you have tried to get me to do all day clem.

Uh what!? Why the sudden rage? Not sure what you're even talking about here, bro.

Also Jr4life25, why do ppl on sc2mafia think of Day 1 as a troll day? You can accomplish a lot on Day 1, but not if everyone has a bad attitude about it.

What do you think of AppleyNO's detective claim?
Do you think straykiwi scum slipped when he said CmG is likely to be SK?

[Glip]

Because no one is talking. And i do not feel like reading troll day much. >.>

Read or be replaced, foo'! Although FYI, this has been the least trolly and most productive day 1 that I've ever seen.

Also, the day will not be extended, and will end at the normal time in one hour and 34 minutes.

[Jr4life24]

Uh what!? Why the sudden rage? Not sure what you're even talking about here, bro.

Also Jr4life25, why do ppl on sc2mafia think of Day 1 as a troll day? You can accomplish a lot on Day 1, but not if everyone has a bad attitude about it.

What do you think of AppleyNO's detective claim?
Do you think straykiwi scum slipped when he said CmG is likely to be SK?

From what i have before which was a skim of day 1 seemed a bit trolly with the votes going around.
i think AppleyNO's claim is him attempting to avoid pressure because of his FM 14 game as no one will let that go and people have begun to start pressuring him more and more, Along with that, He claimed during page 1. Not even 50 post into the game, So i feel he is trying to just avoid pressure when such a little amount of votes were on him

I also feel the same about stray, As he is trying to put pressure on people who have proven their scum skills. (Le CmG and Appley) But i also feel that he is trying to just avoid pressure him self by attempting to drive it else where.

And 2 things,
I also don't exactly know what to think about you yet, As you are a bit of both, Trying to be a town leader but at the same time, Being a bit scummy your self. I guess you are clementine.
And it's goddamn Jr4life24

I have some thoughts about other players, But i shall keep those in my notes for now.
And to Glip, After rereading the chat, I do agree that this is the least non-trolly day I've seen

[Roflcopter]

Still holding strong to my belief about clem being evil.

[Glip]

The day has ended! No one was lynched.

Day 2 will start at this time. (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=October+20th%2C+2012%2C+10+PM+EDT)

EDIT: Night chats are now open.

[Glip]

Twilight of the First Night


http://youtu.be/4Tr0otuiQuU

As the festivites started dying down, and all the citizens began shuffling off to their own homes, sad that the party was over and uneager to return to their boring jobs on the 'morrow, still no one suspected what atrocities were to come. All seemed calm; all seemed peaceful... but that was about to change.

1. clementine
2. AppleyNO
3. Jr4life24
4. Fatalis
5. creedkingsx
6. Damus_Graves
7. Chane
8. Espozito
9. CmG
10. wightsnow
11. Roflcopter
12. Apocist
13. straykiwi

1. Ain't been nobody as died yet, foo'! Whaddaya expect to find here? Go away! Go to sleep! It's past your bedtime!

Note: wightsnow did not post today, and will be replaced.

Note: Due to unfortunate circumstances, night will almost certainly have to be extended by a few hours. I'll post a new end-time for night as soon as I know when I'll be able to get home and start the next day.

[Glip]

Dawn of the Second Day


http://youtu.be/rEX1dYyvmig

Damus_Graves was one of the stragglers getting home from the festivities last night. He lingered and had a chat with some friends before becoming so sleepy that he just had to head home. Living alone on the edge of town, Damus made the walk from the town center to his house in the cold dark of night, his hands numb from the cold and the sleepiness. He was so tired when he finally arrived at his home that he didn't even notice that the door was already unlocked. He took off his jacket and shuffled towards his bedroom, where he was shocked to find a severed horse head lying in his bed. That was when the lights went out...
************************************************** **************
The townsfolk awoke this morning not to the usual birds chirping, but instead to the sound of a large bell tolling. They didn't recognize the sound at first--there had never been a need to use the bell since this town was first built--but soon the awful message being conveyed by the bell came upon them. It was the death toll; someone had died during the night. Horrified, the townsfolk sprung awake and rushed to the town center, where surely some news was to be given about what had occurred while (almost) everyone was sleeping. The town crier, standing in the middle of the crowd which had now gathered at the town center, began to speak. "Our beloved friend, Damus_Graves, was murdered last night. " Gasps of shock rippled throughout the crowd. Why? They wondered. Who could have done this? "He was found dead this morning by the mailman, who spotted Damus's body, riddled with bullets, lying outside Damus's house, next to a broken window leading to the bedroom." The crowd was dismayed. "Further investigation into the matter found several notes pertaining to the leadership of a secret masonic society left out on his desk." Now, a wave of anger overcame the crowd. Damus_Graves had been their Mason Leader! They sought to take revenge upon his murderers. An eye for an eye. "Upon entrance to his bedroom, we found a severed horse head lying in his bead, suggesting that--" At this point, a man in the crowd broke out, screaming "IT'S THE MAFIA! THE MAFIA KILLED DAMUS!" The crowd, boiling to a frenzy, now sank down to a hushed terror. Could there really be a mafia in their small town? Surely not. The town crier spoke again, "Unfortunately, it is true. There is a mafia in our very own town, and they murdered Damus. In order for us to avenge his death, we must determine who the traitors in our town are that have dared form a mafia to disturb the sacred peace we have treasured for so long!" The crowd ushered an assenting shout, and then broke off to begin discussion and find the mafia.

1. clementine
2. AppleyNO
3. Jr4life24
4. Fatalis
5. creedkingsx
6. Damus_Graves
7. Chane
8. Espozito
9. CmG
10. BorkBot
11. Roflcopter
12. Apocist
13. straykiwi

1. Damus_Graves, Mason Leader (Killed by Mafia on Night 1)

Note: BorkBot has replaced wightsnow.

Note: Due to the late start of this day, the following night will have to be shortened in order to get back on the regular schedule. Today will end on October 22nd at 3 AM EDT (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=October+22nd%2C+2012%2C+3+AM+EDT), and the following night will end on October 22nd at 10 PM EDT (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=October+22nd%2C+2012%2C+10+PM+EDT)

[AppleyNO]

First.

Whats up?

Nothing to report yet. Poor Damus. And the ML!

[CmG]

I got roleblocked last night. Probably from Straikiwi if it was an Escort. Or a Consort. I wish it was a Consort though. ;)

[Apocist]

Well that stinks, anyone else attacked last night?

[Roflcopter]

Now the cult is going to reign supreme over all >.>

[AppleyNO]

Now the cult is going to reign supreme over all >.>
Hey rolf, did anything happen to you last night?

[clementine]

Checking in. Nothing happened to me last night.

And oh god this is another one of those kills-happen-before-mason-recruiting setups. I'd be willing to bet that this is a mafia v cult v town setup.

I'd really like to hear from AppleyNO about his night action results. There's not much point in hiding them since he's already exposed and maybe it will help us catch a scum.

[AppleyNO]

I would like to hear from Rolfcopter first, clem. If that is ok?

[Roflcopter]

Nothing happened to me last night.

[AppleyNO]

Nothing happened to me last night.
k....

Clementine Visited Rolfcopter.

[Roflcopter]

And you randomly reveal lookout/detective from a hunch that benefitted us in no way? >.>

[Roflcopter]

Wait I take that back, you already did yesterday, ignore my stupidity and fail at memory.

[CmG]

The Irony! :D

[AppleyNO]

At this point, Clem is either a Invest role or Clem is the Cult Leader and recruited Rolfcopter. Note how he is defending clem and both of their posts have something to do with the cult.

Of course, I have no way of proofing that.

[Roflcopter]

How am I defending clem AT ALL?

[Roflcopter]

Though since you say clem did visit me, I don't think shes the GF anymore. At least.

[AppleyNO]

How am I defending clem AT ALL?
By how you reacted after I gave my results. You tried to immediately turn the attention back to me.

[AppleyNO]

However, Clem, you are the million dollar question. What will you say?

[CmG]

She will claim sheriff or invest.

[AppleyNO]

And Clem leaves?

This was surprising. After being accused like that? Not a post?

Come on and talk clem

-Vote Clementine

[Roflcopter]

I can say this, I wasn't culted last night.

[CmG]

But i guess she is Arsonist.

-vote Clementine

[Roflcopter]

After last night and that you said clem visited me, I am 80% that clem is town.

[AppleyNO]

After last night and that you said clem visited me, I am 80% that clem is town.
Wut?

What do you mean by that?

[AppleyNO]

Clementine views the thread and leaves AGAIN.

[CmG]

Posting a text wall of easy constructed questions, while never answering herself isn't a town tell. Sry bro!

[Roflcopter]

Well I suspected clem was GF, she visited me and I didn't get attacked=probably not GF.

[clementine]

I'm actually a detective. Which is why I was a bit surprised by AppleyNO's extremely early Day 1 detective claim under very little pressure.

I can confirm, last night I followed Roflcopter, and he didn't visit anybody.

[Glip]

DAY EVENT!

Upon further examination of the scene of Damus_Graves' death, a piece of paper was discovered lying near where the body was found. It was very wrinkled and had bullet holes in it, but oddly enough, a message was scrawled on the paper around the bullet holes. It was written in red ink... or perhaps it was blood.

Poor fellow. He must have written it as he lay dying. It reads:


Roflcopter is a mason

[Roflcopter]

Mason leader* thank you every much.

And now i'm going to get taken out dammit.

I must, I SHALL find the cult!

[clementine]

I can vouch for the validity of AppleyNO's detective claim.

[AppleyNO]

There goes clem being CL lolol

[AppleyNO]

I'm actually a detective. Which is why I was a bit surprised by AppleyNO's extremely early Day 1 detective claim under very little pressure.

I can confirm, last night I followed Roflcopter, and he didn't visit anybody.
Why did you follow Rolfcopter?

[Roflcopter]

Probably because I was on her ass.

[Apocist]

There is so much useless revealing so soon...I can only thinks that this is going to hurt town in the end

[Roflcopter]

Probably, now i'm going to either get roleblocked into oblivion, or get capped by the mafia at some random night because masons aren't important enough to be healed.

While i'm here, feel free to claim cit and i'll give you a new purpose in life.

[Roflcopter]

I don't like espozito and glip lurking

-vote espozito

[Fatalis]

No kills = Probably Arson
Mason Leader present = probably Cult Leader

[Fatalis]

I don't like espozito and glip lurking

-vote espozito
Glip
Glip
Glip
Glip
Glip
Glip

[Roflcopter]

I am nearly 1000% sure that there is a cult, as the game started with mason leader AND mason.

[Glip]

I don't like espozito and glip lurking

-vote espozito

*facepalm*

[Roflcopter]

It's as if I can feel damus's spirit watching me from the beyond...

[clementine]

And for my questions that went unanswered yesterday. Yes, I still would like answers. Reposted for ease of reference:

Edit: Seeing that a lot of my questions were regarding the validity of AppleyNO's claim which has been confirmed, I'm removing those from my list.

@Roflcopter, I have some questions for you:
1. Do you think speculating about people's roles in daychat is pro town or anti town and why?
2. Do you believe that mafia would vote straight out of the gate as a voting block on Day 1? (i.e. the train of me, creed, and Damus on AppleyNO)

[3. Why did you neglect to mention Damus in your post about me and the train on appley? Often times scum will avoid mentioning their scum partners in day chat and flat out ignore them. Much like you have done to Damus in your analysis thus far.
4. What is your opinion of Damus?]<-COUGH wow plzplz be less obvious about your connection to Damus next time...

@Espozito, do you believe speculation about people's roles in daychat is pro-town or anti town and why? What is your opinion on creedkingsx and Fatalis?

@Apocist, I have a few questions for you, too.
1. Do you think scum would want to try to appear scummy in daychat by pushing day 1 lynch trains?
2. Can you point out specific posts or ideas from CmG that make you trust him enough to say he would be the best town leader?

@Chane
1. What is your opinion of Fatalis's play thus far? Do you think he is pro-town or anti-town for the jester WIFOM by "purposefully acting scummy" (Post #83)?

@Fatalis What do you hope to accomplish by acting scummy (of your own admission in post#83)? Even if you don't answer this today, I expect you to answer this question on a later day.
ANSWERED #151, but I'm using this as a placeholder as I expect this to be answered again if and when Fatalis ever role claims.

[Roflcopter]

*facepalm*

At least I didn't vote you.

I need to double-check my posts before posting, since I can't edit >.>

[CmG]

-unvote clementine

Lol. I don't care clem just douse somebody else pls!

Also yeah glip lurks so hard!

-vote glip :D

[Fatalis]

And for my questions that went unanswered yesterday. Yes, I still would like answers. Reposted for ease of reference:

Edit: Seeing that a lot of my questions were regarding the validity of AppleyNO's claim which has been confirmed, I'm removing those from my list.

@Roflcopter, I have some questions for you:
1. Do you think speculating about people's roles in daychat is pro town or anti town and why?
2. Do you believe that mafia would vote straight out of the gate as a voting block on Day 1? (i.e. the train of me, creed, and Damus on AppleyNO)

[3. Why did you neglect to mention Damus in your post about me and the train on appley? Often times scum will avoid mentioning their scum partners in day chat and flat out ignore them. Much like you have done to Damus in your analysis thus far.
4. What is your opinion of Damus?]<-COUGH wow plzplz be less obvious about your connection to Damus next time...

@Espozito, do you believe speculation about people's roles in daychat is pro-town or anti town and why? What is your opinion on creedkingsx and Fatalis?

@Apocist, I have a few questions for you, too.
1. Do you think scum would want to try to appear scummy in daychat by pushing day 1 lynch trains?
2. Can you point out specific posts or ideas from CmG that make you trust him enough to say he would be the best town leader?

@Chane
1. What is your opinion of Fatalis's play thus far? Do you think he is pro-town or anti-town for the jester WIFOM by "purposefully acting scummy" (Post #83)?

@Fatalis What do you hope to accomplish by acting scummy (of your own admission in post#83)? Even if you don't answer this today, I expect you to answer this question on a later day.
ANSWERED #151, but I'm using this as a placeholder as I expect this to be answered again if and when Fatalis ever role claims.
I feel that I need not respond to the question again

[clementine]

OMG IM GLAD I GOT MY DETECTIVE RESULTS POSTED IN TIME OR ELSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SUPER SHADY.

[Fatalis]

At least I didn't vote you.

I need to double-check my posts before posting, since I can't edit >.>

Hey did you know
That glip is the host

[Roflcopter]

Hey did you know
That glip is the host

Hey did you know

That I was already aware of that, and that's why I posted the post you just quoted?

[Fatalis]

Hey did you know

That I was already aware of that, and that's why I posted the post you just quoted?

Did you know
That I did not realize that :P

[AppleyNO]

OMG IM GLAD I GOT MY DETECTIVE RESULTS POSTED IN TIME OR ELSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SUPER SHADY.
Plz answer why you followed Rolf.

[Glip]

Dat Tally

clementine {1}: AppleyNO
Espozito {1}: Roflcopter
Glip {1}: CmG

7 votes are needed to lynch.

>.>

[Roflcopter]

And for my questions that went unanswered yesterday. Yes, I still would like answers. Reposted for ease of reference:

Edit: Seeing that a lot of my questions were regarding the validity of AppleyNO's claim which has been confirmed, I'm removing those from my list.

@Roflcopter, I have some questions for you:
1. Do you think speculating about people's roles in daychat is pro town or anti town and why?
2. Do you believe that mafia would vote straight out of the gate as a voting block on Day 1? (i.e. the train of me, creed, and Damus on AppleyNO)

[3. Why did you neglect to mention Damus in your post about me and the train on appley? Often times scum will avoid mentioning their scum partners in day chat and flat out ignore them. Much like you have done to Damus in your analysis thus far.
4. What is your opinion of Damus?]<-COUGH wow plzplz be less obvious about your connection to Damus next time...


All of your questions are answered by the fact I am forum mafia inexperienced and rely on what I know from SC2Mafia

[AppleyNO]

LYNCH ALL THE HOSTS!

-Unvote clementine
-Vote Glip

[AppleyNO]

All of your questions are answered by the fact I am forum mafia inexperienced and rely on what I know from SC2Mafia
Answer one and two then.

Being inexperienced shouldn't stop you from answering them.

[Roflcopter]

Dat Tally

clementine {1}: AppleyNO
Espozito {1}: Roflcopter
Glip {1}: CmG

7 votes are needed to lynch.

>.>

I wonder what happens if we hammer glip.

[Glip]

LYNCH ALL THE HOSTS!

-Unvote clementine
-Vote Glip

I like your new title, Mr. Bad Player

[AppleyNO]

I wonder what happens if we hammer glip.
A Forum Revolution

[Roflcopter]

1. From my experience, it causes scum to slip up and forces people into talking.

2. Yes, as mafia seem to take advantage of these moments to join or start lynch trains to reveal a role.

[Glip]

I wonder what happens if we hammer glip.

I'd like to point out my role card to you, which happens to be ever so conveniently placed at the bottom of every single one of my posts.

[clementine]

I think we should ask for all the citizen claimers right now so Roflcopter has a wide selection of targets tonight. Scum will probably try to hide in the citizen claims and maybe we can catch someone in a lie farther down the road between me and AppleyNO.

There's only 2 more hidden town slots and 2 citizen slots, so I would be interested to see the 5 evils/neutrals left figure out which role list spots they want to claim into.

Claim if you are citizen or not citizen.
People who need to claim:
jr4life24
creedkingsx
chane
CmG
straykiwi
espozito
fatalis
apocist
BorkBot

If a lot of people claim citizen, AppleyNO and I can track the cit claims at night. If a lot of people claim PR's then great! we have cleared cits for rofl to convert.

[Fatalis]

Yay role lists!
Town
Mason Leader ( dead )
Mason
Detective
Detective ( Clem has a possibility to be consig and lied )
Town Power ( possible escort )
Town Power

[Fatalis]

@Clem no

[clementine]

Plz answer why you followed Rolf.

I noticed Damus, Espozito, and Roflcopter's buddying in Day 1 chat and thought that maybe they might be mafia together. I picked one of them at random to follow to see if I could follow one to the mafia kill.

[Roflcopter]

@Clem no

Pros: We have a higher chance of finding evil roles.

Cons: We have a chance of revealing other town powers
(though many are already revealed)

I'd go with YES.

[AppleyNO]

I noticed Damus, Espozito, and Roflcopter's buddying in Day 1 chat and thought that maybe they might be mafia together. I picked one of them at random to follow to see if I could follow one to the mafia kill.
kk

Ty Clem. You have my trust for now.

[Fatalis]

Also @clem that is actually a very briliant idea, most scums will not dare to claim cit and we will probably find the 2 real cits asap

[Roflcopter]

So fatalis, do you claim cit or non-cit?

[AppleyNO]

Also at this point, we might as well have everyone claim if we are going to be doing the citizens.