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Forum Mafia GM
September 3rd, 2012, 06:02 PM
January 3, 1959 6:42 AM - Olympus Heights
Note: This has been a crazy night of actions. You will receive your night results shortly.

There had been little peace during the night. The Refugees of Rapture narrowly escaped Arcadia. They had taken Refuge in Olympus Heights. The living quarters for the social elite. Now widely abandoned due to the riots and civil war. Corpses had already littered the halls. However, this just opened the vacancy of the rooms. With such little trust among themselves.. they spread out into what sanctuary they could find.

As they emerged from their rooms. They entered the central lobby. Descending the stairs.. for they saw at the bottom.. lay fresh corpses.. and a message in blood.. FOR THE SWARM! Really, I hope I got at least one Cultist.

The state of the bodies was poor. It appears that the three limp bodies had been thrown from the third story.. violently. As every bone was broken. Something that fall alone should not of caused.

Siona no longer looked beautiful. They could not find her accu-vox, but under closer inspection she had information on both Ryan and Fontaine.. Siona was an
Amnesiac. She had not joined either cause.

Vernius' neck was twisted. A number of pills and syringes were scattered around his corpse. It was clear to everyone that they would no longer have to fear Yi Suchong (Drug Dealer). They found his accu-vox. Perhaps it would shed some light on his actions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJ7vWwcUtQ

You are all fucked and overrated.
If Anirul is not dead and there is a missing mob kill from night 3, Anirul is Serial Killer.
~le Dimwit
The last body belonged to Lupino. The poor man had recieved much scorn over the past day. If it had not been for the other two bodies.. they may of thought he ended it for himself..

"Yeah, so I'm a doctor. Sort of. It's just that I cut dead people open
instead of living ones. If I've joined my floating corpse friends, it's
probably because some wise guy thought they figured out that I was the
jailor or something.

I went for Moneo night 2 and he visited Garon. I could have stopped a
grave robber from robbing Garon, but thought that getting some
information myself would probably be better.

Night 3 I was jailed, and if I'm dead now I got executed because the
jailor is a bit trigger happy. Time zone differences limited the amount
of communication we had. He left about an hour before I posted my code,
which took me more than an hour to write .

He told me Faykan was legit (got jailed n1) and that he executed Bellonda because she didn't say anything.

I didn't have many clear reads yet. Duncan is slippery. He did say some
scummy things like giving an excuse why he wouldn't contribute to the
day chat, but he's WIFOMing like crazy and could just be trying to avoid
getting killed at night. I also don't trust Siona.

I'd still say to look at Tylwyth first for all the reasons already posted. If new information comes up though, that's good.

They stepped over the bodies, and accessed the control panel. They were not sure if anyone had been left in Arcadia, and this would be the only way to verify. They would only have a small window to control the cameras before being noticed. The last thing they would need is for the war to come to them. The camera in the Arcadia bathysphere room reveal another three bodies...

Edwina, Kalo, and Talis were huddled together in a corner. They had all died peacefully. It appeared that Kalo (Denizen) had died first. He was too lazy to be bothered with breathing. It appeared that Talis had attempted to resuscitate him, but it was no use. Edwina (Denizen) and Talis (Doctor) passed peacefully shortly after.

After they turned off the monitor they noticed two other members of the group were missing. They split into two groups to search. With the amount of death.. it would be unwise to split further. They found Kynes (Mason) in a back hallway. He still had a Saturnine pamphlet in his hand. His skull had been bashed in with a blunt object.
"wow, seriously? i just go re-replaced and i frigggin die. SIGH. FORUM MAFIA HATES ME.

anyway, this is what my mason buddy told me to put down.

nothing happened to me night one or night 2, as far as i can tell. if
it was because I did not receive it because my previous Kynes owner
didn't get it or something then too bad. Otherwise, I give express
permission for the GM to post w/e actions happened to me.

Other mason = duncan

Atlas visited a mason night 1

I'm doing the recruiting tonight on sheeana

Murbella / Talis are cool. Extremely cool, but probably also dead, along with me.

we think siona and ilban are scum

FROM WHAT I READ OF THE FORUM MAFIA, i think Ilban is scum. he was
rbed, theres one less death or something, and a bus driver bussed. the
other target is probably an afk person. THEREFORE, LYNCH ILBAN
TOMORROW. DONT LISTEN TO HIS LIES. ITS ALL LIES I TELL YOU
LIES!!~!~!~!~!

Lord Mason, signing off.

Somberly, they heard the other group had found Anirul. He had been shot. They found a stash of armored plasmids in his coat pocket.. He was such a generous man, he would of never used them on himself.

After all of this carnage. It is almost too much for anyone to continue, but what could the survivors do but press on...


Day 4 will end on September 5th @ 9:00 PM EST (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Semptember+5%2C+2012+9%3A00PM+GMT+-4).

12 votes are required to lynch or skip.


Role List

Andrew Ryan - Godfather
[Hidden Mafia Role]
Peach Wilkins - Framer
[Hidden Mafia Role]
[Hidden Mafia Role]
Atlas - Revolutionary Leader
[Hidden Neutral]
[Hidden Neutral]
Sheriff
[Hidden Town Power]
[Hidden Town Power]
[Hidden Town Power]
[Hidden Town Power]
[Hidden Town Power]
[Hidden Town Power]
[Hidden Town Power]
Denizen / Revolutionist
Denizen / Revolutionist
Denizen / Revolutionist
Denizen
Denizen
Denizen

Town: Armorsmith, Bodyguard, Bus Driver, Coroner, Detective, Doctor, Escort, Gunsmith, Jailor, Journalist, Investigator, Lookout, Mason, Sheriff, Veteran, Vigilante.
Possible Mafia Roles: Consigliere, Consort, Disguiser, Drug Dealer, Enforcer, Framer, Grave Robber, Janitor, Mafioso.
Neutral: Amnesiac, Arsonist, Executioner, Ghost, Jester, Serial Killer, Spree Killer, Student, Witch.


Living Players

Alia
Chobyn
Darwi
Duncan
Estes
Faykan
Helena
Ilban
Irulan
Kagin
Kailea
Kean
Margot
Mavis
Mohiam
Murbella
Paulus
Sheeana
Tessia
Torynn
Tylwyth
Vorian


Graveyard:
Moneo (Sullivan): Found eviscerated in a Kashmir backroom [Night One]
Victor (Denizen): Found eviscerated in a Kashmir backroom [Night One]
Garon (Investigator): Found eviscerated in a Kashmir backroom [Night One]
Leto (Jack): Found with a bullet hole in the base of his skull [Night One]
Gurney (Detective): Found shot through the heart in a dark corner of the Kashmir [Night One]
Bellonda (Denizen): Found drowned in the creek [Night Two]
Jessica (Julie Langford): Found riddled with bullet holes through her chest [Night Two]
Edwina (Denizen): Viewed asphyxiated in Arcadia via monitor [Modkilled]
Kalo (Denizen): Viewed asphyxiated in Arcadia via monitor [Modkilled]
Talis (Doctor): Viewed asphyxiated in Arcadia via monitor [Modkilled]
Kynes (Mason): Found with his skull crushed [Night Three]
Lupino (Coroner): Found splattered on the Olympus lobby [Night Three]
Siona (Amnesiac): Found splattered on the Olympus lobby [Night Three]
Vernius (Yi Suchong): Found splattered on the Olympus lobby [Night Three]
Anirul (Armorsmith): Found riddled with bullet holes through his chest [Night Three]








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Estes
September 3rd, 2012, 06:06 PM
So, Last night wasn't a total wreck it seems, Orange is weakened a member and the amnesiac is dead.
That's good.
Duncan, You said you had information so spit it out mason...

Estes
September 3rd, 2012, 06:08 PM
Oh, Shit i just noticed the mod kills. Never mind...

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 06:10 PM
I was not converted to Mason or Revo last night. I'll explain my actions for the past two days in a minute here. Need to ask the GM a question first.

Can last wills be quoted? Minus the videos of course.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 06:11 PM
Err nvm looks like this game is GG for Town due to all the modkills.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 06:13 PM
Ten/Fourteen town are dead.

Helena
September 3rd, 2012, 06:16 PM
Sad...

Estes
September 3rd, 2012, 06:16 PM
Ten/Fourteen town are dead.

I counted (Including 2 revolutionaries) 14 townish to 10 scum.
We aren't going to keep majority for long since it seems we haven't been able to reduce the KPN fast enough

Helena
September 3rd, 2012, 06:17 PM
So many modkills.
Uh, bbl.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 06:20 PM
I counted (Including 2 revolutionaries) 14 townish to 10 scum.
We aren't going to keep majority for long since it seems we haven't been able to reduce the KPN fast enough

Unless the sheriff has some real information today and we lynch correctly, town still has no chance.

Estes
September 3rd, 2012, 06:25 PM
Unless the sheriff has some real information today and we lynch correctly, town still has no chance.
Maybe, If we lynch scum. And scum manage to kill each other off. And the other neutral helps us out. Plus the jailor gets a good exec. We still have a chance..
I think....

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 06:25 PM
"To be honest, I tried to get myself targeted and killed to save the stronger roles and to prevent the Revos from converting me.

Lupino is almost for sure good. But if I look a bullet so power roles survive, so be it.

Hope that explains my "Jester" like Day 2 post and Day 3 line of posting.

Becoming a Mason was not a bad ploy but the Mafia would just target me anyway.

Like a good meat shield, better to save those who can scum hunt mafia then stay alive. Even being lynched gives power roles the extra night and prevents me from being converted. "

This was to be my last will if I was killed over Lupino. However looks like jailor believed me too well. Did not forsee that happening.

Estes
September 3rd, 2012, 06:28 PM
"To be honest, I tried to get myself targeted and killed to save the stronger roles and to prevent the Revos from converting me.

Lupino is almost for sure good. But if I look a bullet so power roles survive, so be it.

Hope that explains my "Jester" like Day 2 post and Day 3 line of posting.

Becoming a Mason was not a bad ploy but the Mafia would just target me anyway.

Like a good meat shield, better to save those who can scum hunt mafia then stay alive. Even being lynched gives power roles the extra night and prevents me from being converted. "

This was to be my last will if I was killed over Lupino. However looks like jailor believed me too well. Did not forsee that happening.

I don't think the jailor exec-ed, As it has the same death description as the Serial Killer

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 06:31 PM
I was bussed last night. Bus Driver, I wouldn't advise bussing me again, as I would rather get shot than any town PR you may bus the shot at me into.

I'm guessing Kynes being killed by a blunt object means the Revolutionaries have begun killing. Which means they were successful on BOTH of their first two night recruitings. Anyone willing to bet they went for the Denizen claimers from the first 2 days?

Three modkills, and all of them town, and one of them a doctor. This game isn't looking good for us. The serial killer seems to be our greatest ally at this point, having taken out 2 maf and an evil amnesiac. It honestly might be in the town's best interest at this point to keep him alive so he can help take out the cult, which now has atleast 3 members, likely 4, making them just as great a threat as each of the 2 mafias.

I hope someone has some real information that we can use for a lynch today. I, for one, do not.

If the Revolutionaries were successful with their last night recruiting, town doesn't even have a majority anymore. It's now 11 town vs 11 maf+neut. Our only hope is to play the different scum factions off of each other. Honestly, we're pretty darn screwed.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 06:35 PM
Duncan is confirmed to be the other Mason so he is clear.

Kynes also says to trust Murbella.

The interesting thing is he died trying to convert Sheena and thinks Ilban is scum.

I say we lynch Sheena or Ilban.

-vote Ilban

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 06:36 PM
I don't think the jailor exec-ed, As it has the same death description as the Serial Killer

Your right.

Alia
September 3rd, 2012, 06:42 PM
Wow, a doctor was modkilled?

Alia
September 3rd, 2012, 06:43 PM
The cult is probably the most threatening force at this point... Everyone has been claiming denizen.

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 06:44 PM
Wow, a doctor was modkilled?

Yes. A doctor was modkilled. Oh happy days.

Paulus
September 3rd, 2012, 06:49 PM
Wait a second.... According to the Mason LW, Atlas visited a mason N1...

That would mean he would NOT have had three members to make a kill last night, so the mason died by recruiting a non-town?

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 06:51 PM
Wait a second.... According to the Mason LW, Atlas visited a mason N1...

That would mean he would NOT have had three members to make a kill last night, so the mason died by recruiting a non-town?

By George, you're right! That means Sheeana is maf, Atlas, or the SK.

Hard proof against her.

-vote Sheeana

This game might not be as lost as I first thought.

Estes
September 3rd, 2012, 06:53 PM
-Vote Sheenana
Then were was the other mafia kill. Again....
Will the death descriptions let us know if a person was attacked twice in the night?

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 06:54 PM
So the guy who was picking at me and constantly saying I had scumslipped ends up being orange mafia...why am I not surprised.

-vote ilban I want a claim, but I'll unvote if we get too close to lynch too quickly.

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 06:55 PM
By George, you're right! That means Sheeana is maf, Atlas, or the SK.

Hard proof against her.

-vote Sheeana

This game might not be as lost as I first thought.

I'll jump on the Sheeana wagon once I get info from ilban.

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 06:56 PM
Unless

Can the Revolutionaries send someone to kill when they only have 2 members, but only have the kill go through if the recruitment that night is also successful?

This might be possible according to the OoO, as converting happens before killing actions, so they would technically have 3 members before sending anyone to kill, even though they started the night with only 2.

Paulus
September 3rd, 2012, 06:57 PM
By George, you're right! That means Sheeana is maf, Atlas, or the SK.

Hard proof against her.

-vote Sheeana

This game might not be as lost as I first thought.
Yay we found a scum!

-vote Sheeana
For people who do not read last wills:
The starting mason was visited by Atlas. Because of that, they would not have had enough members to kill someone.
Red, Orange, and SK kills are accounted for, yet Kynes died. This only leaves him visiting a non-town, who kill masons.
He said he went to recruit Sheeana

Paulus
September 3rd, 2012, 06:57 PM
Unless

Can the Revolutionaries send someone to kill when they only have 2 members, but only have the kill go through if the recruitment that night is also successful?

This might be possible according to the OoO, as converting happens before killing actions, so they would technically have 3 members before sending anyone to kill, even though they started the night with only 2.
T.T Lets hope not.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:00 PM
Wait a second.... According to the Mason LW, Atlas visited a mason N1...

That would mean he would NOT have had three members to make a kill last night, so the mason died by recruiting a non-town?

Correct. He tried to recruit Sheena like his Last Will said and died for it.

He also said in the LW to lynch Ilban tonight. We can get Sheena instead of Ilban or keep my voting going and lynch Ilban today.

Sheena is 100% scum from the Mason death so the safer vote is this...

-unvote.

-vote sheena.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:02 PM
So the guy who was picking at me and constantly saying I had scumslipped ends up being orange mafia...why am I not surprised.

-vote ilban I want a claim, but I'll unvote if we get too close to lynch too quickly.

Fair enough. Lupino said we can trust you from what jailor told him.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:04 PM
Jailor should jail and execute Ilban tonight. I agree with the masons last will. Seems scrmmy as fuck.

Reveal your role Ilban or be killed via Jailor! (pressure time!)

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:07 PM
Correct. He tried to recruit Sheena like his Last Will said and died for it.

He also said in the LW to lynch Ilban tonight. We can get Sheena instead of Ilban or keep my voting going and lynch Ilban today.

Sheena is 100% scum from the Mason death so the safer vote is this...

-unvote.

-vote sheena.

God damn Ipad auto-spell.

-unvote.

-vote Sheeana. [/QUOTE]

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 07:10 PM
Fair enough. Lupino said we can trust you from what jailor told him.

Jailor just confirmed that I was jailed n1, It probably helps that I've been doing exactly what I told him I would do (except for my fuck ups with the daily disguiser check) but he can't confirm that I'm only a citizen. In this setup you should never 100% trust a denizen claim until he gets masoned.

Nothing happened to me yet again last night. I must have developed some kind of pervasive odor. I'm also adding people who jumped on me too quickly and then went silent to my scumlist. I'm going to go compile that list before I go to sleep for the night and post it.

Forum Mafia GM
September 3rd, 2012, 07:11 PM
Will the death descriptions let us know if a person was attacked twice in the night?
Yes.

Torynn
September 3rd, 2012, 07:12 PM
Hey Vegis i am here to explain the game to you once more. Because i am such a nice Pony!

Solution - 1 -

4 - Order of Operations

Jailing
Journalist Interviews
Night Chats Open
Defensive Item Use / Bodyguard Protects
Veteran Alert
Witch Controls
Escort / Consort Blocks / Enforcing
Lookout / Detective Actions
Bus Driving
Framing
Investigations
Revolutionist Recruiting / Mason Recruiting <-- happens at the same time.
Killing Actions / Arson Dousing / Jailor Execute / Killing Item Use (-1 Life) follows right after
Autopsies / Healing (+1 Life)
Cleaning / Grave Robbing
Blackmailing / Drugs Take Effect / Ninja Steals Ability
Give Items
Amnesiac Remembers His Role / Student Chooses Mentor / Ghost Possession
Jailor Releases
Publishing a Newspaper

A mason who visits a cultist on a night where the 3. Cultist gets recruited gets him killed.

-OR-

Solution-2-

Potential Hidden Neutral Roles:


Spoiler : Revolutionist :
– Once a simple citizen of Rapture. You have taken the words of Atlas to heart, and will try to take the city back under his vision.

There must be a total of three living Revolutionists to make a kill.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sheanna is probably a cultist or Atlas. If there is no witching or Bus driving involved.

-OR-

The cult didn't start out with Atlas and a cultist.


THE MORE YOU KNOW!

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:12 PM
Jailor just confirmed that I was jailed n1, It probably helps that I've been doing exactly what I told him I would do (except for my fuck ups with the daily disguiser check) but he can't confirm that I'm only a citizen. In this setup you should never 100% trust a denizen claim until he gets masoned.

Nothing happened to me yet again last night. I must have developed some kind of pervasive odor. I'm also adding people who jumped on me too quickly and then went silent to my scumlist. I'm going to go compile that list before I go to sleep for the night and post it.

One would think that we would have been safer targets to Mason then going for Sheeana.

Forum Mafia GM
September 3rd, 2012, 07:12 PM
Can the Revolutionaries send someone to kill when they only have 2 members, but only have the kill go through if the recruitment that night is also successful?
No...

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 07:13 PM
We should look closely at those who were voting with Sheeana on Faykan yesterday. Namely, Irulan, Margot, and Tylwyth (although he is slightly excused because he couldn't have voted for himself and Faykan was the only other lynch target, it is worth noting that Sheeana, a confirmed scum, was refusing to vote for him.)

I also find it VERY unfortunate that one of the replacements from yesterday died tonight while a doctor got modkilled. Atleast he managed to get a last will in that confirmed a scum for us. Atleast one other lurker from yesterday was also replaced. I for one hope it was Vorian.

Ilban
September 3rd, 2012, 07:13 PM
Now that's just REALLY great. For some reason, I was ''blacklisted'' by some dnsbl.tornevall thing and I can no longer access sc2mafia.com from work. I have already contacted DR and I'll see if I can get myself unblocked tomorrow (When their site goes back up, because it's down right now...)

Anyways.


Jailor should jail and execute Ilban tonight. I agree with the masons last will. Seems scrmmy as fuck.

Reveal your role Ilban or be killed via Jailor! (pressure time!)

Kinda funny, coming from the one that was one vote away from getting lynched yesterday. You're still scum in my book.
And the jailor can't execute anymore. He was limited to two kills and he killed our Coroner last night.

I already gave a hint about what my role was yesterday. You should skim through my posts again.
Pressure me all you want; but I can tell you now, It's not worth it and I'll just end up being a major waste of your time.

Either way;
-Vote Sheeana

Torynn
September 3rd, 2012, 07:13 PM
I mean The Cult did probably start out with Atlas AND a cultist as one of the hidden neutrals. Typo there.

Estes
September 3rd, 2012, 07:14 PM
Kynes (Mason): Found with his skull crushed [Night Three] (Assuming from recruiting a non-town)
Lupino (Coroner): Found splattered on the Olympus lobby [Night Three](Serial)
Siona (Amnesiac): Found splattered on the Olympus lobby [Night Three](Serial)
Vernius (Yi Suchong): Found splattered on the Olympus lobby [Night Three](Serial)
Anirul (Armorsmith): Found riddled with bullet holes through his chest [Night Three](Red or orange mafia)
Where was the 2nd mafia kill. I doubt the drug dealer was doing the killing as he could be doing drugs and such.
So i am a bit confused honestly, But that never seems to be anything new.

Alia
September 3rd, 2012, 07:15 PM
-vote Sheeana
Best hunch we've had so far

Paulus
September 3rd, 2012, 07:15 PM
Now that's just REALLY great. For some reason, I was ''blacklisted'' by some dnsbl.tornevall thing and I can no longer access sc2mafia.com from work. I have already contacted DR and I'll see if I can get myself unblocked tomorrow (When their site goes back up, because it's down right now...)

Anyways.



Kinda funny, coming from the one that was one vote away from getting lynched yesterday. You're still scum in my book.
And the jailor can't execute anymore. He was limited to two kills and he killed our Coroner last night.

I already gave a hint about what my role was yesterday. You should skim through my posts again.
Pressure me all you want; but I can tell you now, It's not worth it and I'll just end up being a major waste of your time.

Either way;
-Vote Sheeana
Doesn't pay attention to the fact that the SK killed the coroner.....^^^^

Paulus
September 3rd, 2012, 07:16 PM
Kynes (Mason): Found with his skull crushed [Night Three] (Assuming from recruiting a non-town)
Lupino (Coroner): Found splattered on the Olympus lobby [Night Three](Serial)
Siona (Amnesiac): Found splattered on the Olympus lobby [Night Three](Serial)
Vernius (Yi Suchong): Found splattered on the Olympus lobby [Night Three](Serial)
Anirul (Armorsmith): Found riddled with bullet holes through his chest [Night Three](Red or orange mafia)
Where was the 2nd mafia kill. I doubt the drug dealer was doing the killing as he could be doing drugs and such.
So i am a bit confused honestly, But that never seems to be anything new.
You are right...

My theory has holes in it now.

Paulus
September 3rd, 2012, 07:18 PM
It could be a possible armorsmith vesting/Escort/Atlas,SK,Red GF Vest?

Ilban
September 3rd, 2012, 07:19 PM
Doesn't pay attention to the fact that the SK killed the coroner.....^^^^

Unless I'm missing something... Lupino's LW says that he was jailed and that if he was dead it was because he got executed.
.... I'm probably missing something.

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 07:19 PM
Now that's just REALLY great. For some reason, I was ''blacklisted'' by some dnsbl.tornevall thing and I can no longer access sc2mafia.com from work. I have already contacted DR and I'll see if I can get myself unblocked tomorrow (When their site goes back up, because it's down right now...)

Anyways.



Kinda funny, coming from the one that was one vote away from getting lynched yesterday. You're still scum in my book.
And the jailor can't execute anymore. He was limited to two kills and he killed our Coroner last night.

I already gave a hint about what my role was yesterday. You should skim through my posts again.
Pressure me all you want; but I can tell you now, It's not worth it and I'll just end up being a major waste of your time.

Either way;
-Vote Sheeana

I'm still waiting for your claim.

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 07:20 PM
Unless I'm missing something... Lupino's LW says that he was jailed and that if he was dead it was because he got executed.
.... I'm probably missing something.

Jail does not make one night immune.

Paulus
September 3rd, 2012, 07:20 PM
Im going to get in the shower, BRB 10 minutes

@llban
The SK killed Siona,Verius,and Lupino.... we know this due to same death description.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:21 PM
Just further proves why Sheeana needs to be eliminated tonight via lynch. Towns only small hope is that evil kills alot of other evil during Night Four.

Do not for a second forget about Ilban. He sill needs to roleclaim.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:22 PM
Now that's just REALLY great. For some reason, I was ''blacklisted'' by some dnsbl.tornevall thing and I can no longer access sc2mafia.com from work. I have already contacted DR and I'll see if I can get myself unblocked tomorrow (When their site goes back up, because it's down right now...)

Anyways.



Kinda funny, coming from the one that was one vote away from getting lynched yesterday. You're still scum in my book.
And the jailor can't execute anymore. He was limited to two kills and he killed our Coroner last night.

I already gave a hint about what my role was yesterday. You should skim through my posts again.
Pressure me all you want; but I can tell you now, It's not worth it and I'll just end up being a major waste of your time.

Either way;
-Vote Sheeana

Ya Jailor, execute this asshat tonight.

Torynn
September 3rd, 2012, 07:23 PM
-vote Sheeana



-Sardaukar pony tally-

12 votes required to lynch

Ilban(1): Faykan

Sheeana(7): Darwi, Estes, Paulus, Sheeana, Ilban, Alia, Torynn

Ilban
September 3rd, 2012, 07:24 PM
I'm trying to understand; why are you two all over me now? Because someone that JUST joined the game and got killed the same night said
I was scummy?
I'm not stupid enough to give out my role, especially since the two persons that are completely over my ass are the two top lynch targets
from yesterday.



Jail does not make one night immune.

But thanks for clarifying that.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:25 PM
Now that's just REALLY great. For some reason, I was ''blacklisted'' by some dnsbl.tornevall thing and I can no longer access sc2mafia.com from work. I have already contacted DR and I'll see if I can get myself unblocked tomorrow (When their site goes back up, because it's down right now...)

Anyways.



Kinda funny, coming from the one that was one vote away from getting lynched yesterday. You're still scum in my book.
And the jailor can't execute anymore. He was limited to two kills and he killed our Coroner last night.

I already gave a hint about what my role was yesterday. You should skim through my posts again.
Pressure me all you want; but I can tell you now, It's not worth it and I'll just end up being a major waste of your time.

Either way;
-Vote Sheeana

Sk killed our consort you moron. Jailor still has executions.

We have said this a few times now. Try reading everything next time before you jump to/skim the last page as bad scum players tend to do.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:27 PM
I'm trying to understand; why are you two all over me now? Because someone that JUST joined the game and got killed the same night said
I was scummy?
I'm not stupid enough to give out my role, especially since the two persons that are completely over my ass are the two top lynch targets
from yesterday.




But thanks for clarifying that.

Would be easybto understand if you read Last Wills, or read anything for that matter.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:27 PM
Easy to* damn ipads!

Ilban
September 3rd, 2012, 07:28 PM
Sk killed our consort you moron. Jailor still has executions.

Yes, Paulus already clarified for me. And I find this oddly funny. ^

And yeowch, someone is in a bad mood. Still on the edge because of yesterday?

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:29 PM
I'm trying to understand; why are you two all over me now? Because someone that JUST joined the game and got killed the same night said
I was scummy?
I'm not stupid enough to give out my role, especially since the two persons that are completely over my ass are the two top lynch targets
from yesterday.




But thanks for clarifying that.

Your so Mafia its not even funny at this point.

Role reveal or get jailor executed.

Estes
September 3rd, 2012, 07:30 PM
Our consort huh?
Care to explain.
Maybe?

Ilban
September 3rd, 2012, 07:31 PM
Our consort huh?
Care to explain.
Maybe?

I think he just completely messed up there. :)

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:32 PM
Yes, Paulus already clarified for me. And I find this oddly funny. ^

And yeowch, someone is in a bad mood. Still on the edge because of yesterday?

I explained my actions from yesterday very clearly. Go back and read my first few posts from today. Obvious to see why i was ok with being lynched and had no issue with it since we had no scum targets.

Now we have two. Yourself and Sheeana.

So before tring the ol "you mad bro" spill, again, READ first.

Estes
September 3rd, 2012, 07:32 PM
-Unvote
Now i want an explanation...

Torynn
September 3rd, 2012, 07:33 PM
Tylwyth once again goes apeshit like a jester / ghost would do. Day 4 WIFOMING Cultist now.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:33 PM
Coroner lol talk about telling someone to read and then saying the wrong C wrole. Hello dixlexia (spelling?)

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:35 PM
Coroner lol talk about telling someone to read and then saying the wrong C wrole. Hello dixlexia (spelling?)

Wrong C word* cant wait till i have a real keyboard again. This ipad one is horrible.

Helena
September 3rd, 2012, 07:42 PM
Sk killed our consort you moron. Jailor still has executions.


Jessica (Julie Langford): Found riddled with bullet holes through her chest [Night Two]

I didn't know SK had a gun!

I don't really believe Ilban is scum just because the mason said so.

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 07:42 PM
I'm trying to understand; why are you two all over me now? Because someone that JUST joined the game and got killed the same night said
I was scummy?
I'm not stupid enough to give out my role, especially since the two persons that are completely over my ass are the two top lynch targets
from yesterday.




But thanks for clarifying that.

The fact that you didn't claim Denizen is enough information for me atm.

I've gone back and looked at the original lynch train on me D2,
FOS on Mavis Margot in addition to Sheeana who is already under suspicion.
It's more a gut feeling than anything else after looking back at the lynch trains. I believe Sheeana and Margot may be part of the same mafia team, and Mavis is another orange mafia. Someone better than me at analyzation should take a look at the previous two days and their activities.

Ilban
September 3rd, 2012, 07:45 PM
Sk killed our consort you moron.



Our consort huh?
Care to explain.
Maybe?

Why'd you go back to lurking? We're waiting.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:56 PM
I didn't know SK had a gun!

I don't really believe Ilban is scum just because the mason said so.

As i already explained. I ment to say coroner butbsaid Consig. Small case of dixlexia. Happens to everyone.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:58 PM
The fact that you didn't claim Denizen is enough information for me atm.

I've gone back and looked at the original lynch train on me D2,
FOS on Mavis Margot in addition to Sheeana who is already under suspicion.
It's more a gut feeling than anything else after looking back at the lynch trains. I believe Sheeana and Margot may be part of the same mafia team, and Mavis is another orange mafia. Someone better than me at analyzation should take a look at the previous two days and their activities.

So scum list is
Sheeana
Ilban
Margot

We lynch/kill in this order.

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 07:59 PM
As i already explained. I ment to say coroner butbsaid Consig. Small case of dixlexia. Happens to everyone.

*facepalm*

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 07:59 PM
So scum list is
Sheeana
Ilban
Margot

We lynch/kill in this order.

I pray that Ilban is executed tonight and we can check out Margot tomorrow.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:00 PM
*facepalm*

Tell me anout it. Lol.

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 08:00 PM
I pray that Ilban is executed tonight and we can check out Margot tomorrow.

If we lynch Sheeana, the jailor will not be able to execute Ilban.

Ilban
September 3rd, 2012, 08:00 PM
So scum list is
Sheeana
Ilban
Margot

We lynch/kill in this order.

Why are you trying to act as a leader of all sudden? In case you have a severe case of amnesia along with your dyslexia,
you were the #1 lynch target yesterday and escaped by ONE vote thanks to the lurkers/inactive people.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:00 PM
Tell me anout it. Lol.

About*. Im going to break you Ipad!

Helena
September 3rd, 2012, 08:01 PM
So scum list is
Sheeana
Ilban
Margot

We lynch/kill in this order.

On Day 2, there was 2 roleblocked claims. Day 3 there was 1 roleblock claim (Ilban).

What do you think happened there?

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 08:02 PM
I propose saving the jailor's final execution and lynching someone today.

Estes
September 3rd, 2012, 08:03 PM
Anyways, I am going to bed, As i have my first day of school tomorrow...
Sadly...
I'll be up for 3 more minutes for any questions..

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:04 PM
Why are you trying to act as a leader of all sudden? In case you have a severe case of amnesia along with your dyslexia,
you were the #1 lynch target yesterday and escaped by ONE vote thanks to the lurkers/inactive people.

And I will restate this for you a second time Ilban.

At the start of this day I explained my actions on Day 2 and 3. Very easy to see why I did what I did.

As a Citizen I can not be fully trusted until I become a Mason.

What I can do is lead the Town in the lynch of Sheeana, a confirmed scum, and you, who the Masons and now many others feel is scum as well.

Case. Closed.

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 08:04 PM
On Day 2, there was 2 roleblocked claims. Day 3 there was 1 roleblock claim (Ilban).

What do you think happened there?

Only 4 possible answers.

1. Person roleblocked chose not to reveal that they were roleblocked.

2. Person roleblocked was also killed that same night.

3. Person roleblocked was an afker who didn't post and was modkilled/replaced last night.

4. Least likely, but it's possible the second roleblock claim was a drug, and the DD did not use another roleblock drug the following night.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:05 PM
Anyways, I am going to bed, As i have my first day of school tomorrow...
Sadly...
I'll be up for 3 more minutes for any questions..

Revote Sheeana please before you go to bed. Enough pressure to have her role claim is nice.

Have a good first day.

Estes
September 3rd, 2012, 08:06 PM
Revote Sheeana please before you go to bed. Enough pressure to have her role claim is nice.

Have a good first day.

Fine, But i better not see her lynched at least til i come back.
-Vote Sheeana

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:07 PM
On Day 2, there was 2 roleblocked claims. Day 3 there was 1 roleblock claim (Ilban).

What do you think happened there?

Read the last will. Thats our best guess.

Why are you standing up for Ilban anyway? If he dies and is confirmed evil then you have some explaining to do Helena.

Helena
September 3rd, 2012, 08:08 PM
Read the last will. Thats our best guess.

Why are you standing up for Ilban anyway? If he dies and is confirmed evil then you have some explaining to do Helena.

Coming from the person who cried "Lynch Lupino!!"
And guess what? He flipped town.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:08 PM
If we lynch Sheeana, the jailor will not be able to execute Ilban.

Not true. Cant the jailor execute even if we lynch?

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:09 PM
Coming from the person who cried "Lynch Lupino!!"
And guess what? He flipped town.

Are you like Ilban and dont read every post before posting yourself?

Helena
September 3rd, 2012, 08:09 PM
Are you like Ilban and dont read every post before posting yourself?

Are you referring to this post?

"To be honest, I tried to get myself targeted and killed to save the stronger roles and to prevent the Revos from converting me.

Lupino is almost for sure good. But if I look a bullet so power roles survive, so be it.

Hope that explains my "Jester" like Day 2 post and Day 3 line of posting.

Becoming a Mason was not a bad ploy but the Mafia would just target me anyway.

Like a good meat shield, better to save those who can scum hunt mafia then stay alive. Even being lynched gives power roles the extra night and prevents me from being converted. "

This was to be my last will if I was killed over Lupino. However looks like jailor believed me too well. Did not forsee that happening.

That doesn't explain much.

Chobyn
September 3rd, 2012, 08:10 PM
-vote Sheeana

Faykan, has the jailor revealed anything in code to you yet today?

Duncan is confirm town and sheeana is confirmed scum.
Come on and post duncan!

Jailor should jail llban tonight, so we can test out a second roleblock on him.

I wonder if we have a conservative vigilante?

Helena
September 3rd, 2012, 08:13 PM
Not true. Cant the jailor execute even if we lynch?

– Each day you may select a player to jail. You will be able to speak anonymously to that player at night. Deciding to execute or release them.

Jailor execution ignores any healing, protection or invulnerability.
Will be able to jail regardless of lynching.
Can only execute only after no-lynch days.
You are limited to two executions.
Your captive will NOT have additional jail immunity.
Your captive will be role blocked.
Jailing blocks any night chats.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:14 PM
"To be honest, I tried to get myself targeted and killed to save the stronger roles and to prevent the Revos from converting me.

Lupino is almost for sure good. But if I look a bullet so power roles survive, so be it.

Hope that explains my "Jester" like Day 2 post and Day 3 line of posting.

Becoming a Mason was not a bad ploy but the Mafia would just target me anyway.

Like a good meat shield, better to save those who can scum hunt mafia then stay alive. Even being lynched gives power roles the extra night and prevents me from being converted. "

This was to be my last will if I was killed over Lupino. However looks like jailor believed me too well. Did not forsee that happening.

This is for Ilban and Helena.

As i stated, I figured Lupino was a pro town.

Why go off then? Simple. I wanted to take the bullet as a good cit should.

We had no confirmed leads and could not afford to lose any town power roles.

Also, I could be converted and that hurts town.

Best thing to do was act full retard and be a meat shield.

But now that we have a confirmed scum target and a few almost confirmed, the way I have been playing/acting has changed.

Now I even underlined it for you Ilban/Helena so it will be easy to read and understand.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:16 PM
– Each day you may select a player to jail. You will be able to speak anonymously to that player at night. Deciding to execute or release them.

Jailor execution ignores any healing, protection or invulnerability.
Will be able to jail regardless of lynching.
Can only execute only after no-lynch days.
You are limited to two executions.
Your captive will NOT have additional jail immunity.
Your captive will be role blocked.
Jailing blocks any night chats.

Fair enough.

Then Ilban should be jailed (thus being roleblocked) until we can lynch him on Day Five.

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 08:17 PM
-vote Sheeana

Faykan, has the jailor revealed anything in code to you yet today?

Duncan is confirm town and sheeana is confirmed scum.
Come on and post duncan!

Jailor should jail llban tonight, so we can test out a second roleblock on him.

I wonder if we have a conservative vigilante?

Nothing using our established code has been given (unless I missed something, which I doubt) since he revealed his Identity to me.

Helena
September 3rd, 2012, 08:18 PM
This is for Ilban and Helena.

As i stated, I figured Lupino was a pro town.

Why go off then? Simple. I wanted to take the bullet as a good cit should.

We had no confirmed leads and could not afford to lose any town power roles.

Also, I could be converted and that hurts town.

Best thing to do was act full retard and be a meat shield.

But now that we have a confirmed scum target and a few almost confirmed, the way I have been playing/acting has changed.

Now I even underlined it for you Ilban/Helena so it will be easy to read and understand.

A citizen simply does not act full retard and be a meat shield.

Kailea
September 3rd, 2012, 08:19 PM
That was a strange night.

Kailea
September 3rd, 2012, 08:19 PM
-vote Sheeana

This lynch seems pretty fool-proof.


We should also look at Irulan and Ilban. They seem like Atlas and the Revolutionists.

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 08:19 PM
This is for Ilban and Helena.

As i stated, I figured Lupino was a pro town.

Why go off then? Simple. I wanted to take the bullet as a good cit should.

We had no confirmed leads and could not afford to lose any town power roles.

Also, I could be converted and that hurts town.

Best thing to do was act full retard and be a meat shield.

But now that we have a confirmed scum target and a few almost confirmed, the way I have been playing/acting has changed.

Now I even underlined it for you Ilban/Helena so it will be easy to read and understand.

Underlining it makes it harder to read and understand.

By acting whacko and suspicious, you make yourself an easy lynch target, and thus UNLIKELY TO GET SHOT (Why kill you at night if they can get a mislynch on you the next day?). Hard to take a bullet if you don't get shot.

By coming out so strongly against Lupino, with Lupino being town, that increased the odds of Lupino being shot, in order to greater frame you and make you even easier to lynch.

Your actions have only hurt the town.

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 08:20 PM
Just to reinforce that I'm still the same person you jailed, if you read this jailor,Here you are (My apologies to the FMGM for that color, but I can't change an established code without being rejailed, unless you want to communicate the change to him)

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 08:20 PM
-unvote

I don't want Sheeana getting lynched yet. We need more discussion first.

Paulus
September 3rd, 2012, 08:21 PM
Ilban(1): Faykan

Sheeana[8]: Paulus, Sheeana, Ilban, Alia, Torynn, Estes, Chobyn, Kailea

Sheeana is L-4

Paulus
September 3rd, 2012, 08:22 PM
That face...

The vigilante face should be the number 8

Helena
September 3rd, 2012, 08:22 PM
Underlining it makes it harder to read and understand.

By acting whacko and suspicious, you make yourself an easy lynch target, and thus UNLIKELY TO GET SHOT (Why kill you at night if they can get a mislynch on you the next day?). Hard to take a bullet if you don't get shot.

By coming out so strongly against Lupino, with Lupino being town, that increased the odds of Lupino being shot, in order to greater frame you and make you even easier to lynch.

Your actions have only hurt the town.

This... I didn't know how to explain it with proper words, tbh.
+1 to you, sir.

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 08:23 PM
Agreed Darwi, Did I miss someone asking what happens when mason/revolutionary target the same person? Or is it cool to ask.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:23 PM
A citizen simply does not act full retard and be a meat shield.

They do if it protects a power role.

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 08:23 PM
Just to reinforce that I'm still the same person you jailed, if you read this jailor,Here you are (My apologies to the FMGM for that color, but I can't change an established code without being rejailed, unless you want to communicate the change to him)

Why apologize for using a code which the GM had already approved?

Paulus
September 3rd, 2012, 08:26 PM
They do if it protects a power role.

BUT THAT DOESN'T PROTECT A POWER ROLE, THAT ACTUALLY HURTS THEM BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT BE TARGETED, SO THE PRs HAVE A HIGHER CHANCE OF BEING KILLED.

LEARN TO PLAY, PLEASE.

I would not be opposed to a Tywyth lynch/jailor exe in the next few days.

Paulus
September 3rd, 2012, 08:27 PM
I would not be opposed to a Tywyth lynch/jailor exe in the next few days.

Like we should have done yesterday, and look, the two non-towns who have died today? THEY DIDN'T VOTE FOR TYLWYTH YESTERDAY

Paulus
September 3rd, 2012, 08:28 PM
The Caps, by the way, represent me yelling at you. So you know. =)

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 08:28 PM
Why apologize for using a code which the GM had already approved?

Because I know the FMGM well enough to know he may not have actually read that list during the code description post.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:29 PM
Underlining it makes it harder to read and understand.

By acting whacko and suspicious, you make yourself an easy lynch target, and thus UNLIKELY TO GET SHOT (Why kill you at night if they can get a mislynch on you the next day?). Hard to take a bullet if you don't get shot.

By coming out so strongly against Lupino, with Lupino being town, that increased the odds of Lupino being shot, in order to greater frame you and make you even easier to lynch.

Your actions have only hurt the town.

Could be right.

Look at it another way, a way ive tried to say but not too loudly.

That me being alive as a confirmed cit could hurt the town if I am converted.

Right now I am still a Cit and need to think as one. What can I do to help Town? Well, dying so power roles live is one. But also, ensuring that I am not converted. This could cost me the game as the Revos are sitting pretty right now, and if converted to Revo i would have to play to my win condition, which again, hurts town.

Does that mean a lynch should be used on me yet when Sheeana & Ilban are still alive? No. But if I am not converted to Mason then as a Citizen with a Cult in play, I could be a threat.

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 08:30 PM
Agreed Darwi, Did I miss someone asking what happens when mason/revolutionary target the same person? Or is it cool to ask.

It was asked in the Q&A thread. Cultist conversion takes precedence. Then, Mason targeting cultist rules apply: If there are 3 or more total cultists (including the one just converted), then mason and cultist targeted both die. If 2 or less total cultists, then mason and cultist targeted learn each other's identities.

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 08:32 PM
It was asked in the Q&A thread. Cultist conversion takes precedence. Then, Mason targeting cultist rules apply: If there are 3 or more total cultists (including the one just converted), then mason and cultist targeted both die. If 2 or less total cultists, then mason and cultist targeted learn each other's identities.

Thank you kind sir.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:33 PM
BUT THAT DOESN'T PROTECT A POWER ROLE, THAT ACTUALLY HURTS THEM BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT BE TARGETED, SO THE PRs HAVE A HIGHER CHANCE OF BEING KILLED.

LEARN TO PLAY, PLEASE.

I would not be opposed to a Tywyth lynch/jailor exe in the next few days.

Dont worry. Mafia will kill me off as I am a huge Revo threat as confirmed Cit.

Dont waste a lynch on me when Sheeana, confirmed scum, and Ilban are still alive.

Cult is too much of a threat to Mafia to keep me alive for long.

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 08:34 PM
Btw Good news my friends, thanks to the wonders of school (college) starting I'll be more active today than previously.

Paulus
September 3rd, 2012, 08:34 PM
Dont worry. Mafia will kill me off as I am a huge Revo threat as confirmed Cit.

Dont waste a lynch on me when Sheeana, confirmed scum, and Ilban are still alive.

Cult is too much of a threat to Mafia to keep me alive for long.
Why are you trying to die??

WHY???

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:35 PM
Paulus i hate to say it, but I have had better kisses at Midnight.

Seriously, what was up with all that spit? Like kissing a horse.

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 08:35 PM
Dont worry. Mafia will kill me off as I am a huge Revo threat as confirmed Cit.

Dont waste a lynch on me when Sheeana, confirmed scum, and Ilban are still alive.

Cult is too much of a threat to Mafia to keep me alive for long.

Becoming a confirmed citizen is impossible until you are masoned, at which time you will be confirmed mason and immune to Revo conversion. Stop trying to imply you have any credibility.

Paulus
September 3rd, 2012, 08:35 PM
Why are you trying to die??

WHY???

Trying from Day 2 to be killed, lynch or at night, is NEVER EVER Pro town... We just don't have the numbers for you to do that.

Forum Mafia GM
September 3rd, 2012, 08:35 PM
Because I know the FMGM well enough to know he may not have actually read that list during the code description post.

What's that supposed to mean >.>

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 08:37 PM
What's that supposed to mean >.>

You know. Exactly what I mean.

Paulus
September 3rd, 2012, 08:37 PM
Anyway, I have school tomorrow, so I need to sleep.

Ill be back soon.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:38 PM
Why are you trying to die??

WHY???

So town has a better chance to win.

This isnt a -suicide by any means.

Its a "i need to become Mason or I could be a threat to town due to the Revos."

Right now the biggest threat to town is Sheeana and Ilban. But any confirmed Cits are right after that.

Town dont waste a lynch on us. Force Mafia/sk to use kills on us.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:39 PM
Trying from Day 2 to be killed, lynch or at night, is NEVER EVER Pro town... We just don't have the numbers for you to do that.

Ya it was a new strat I have been wanting to try.

I called it "Pulling a Jesus."

Torynn
September 3rd, 2012, 08:40 PM
Paulus i hate to say it, but I have had better kisses at Midnight.

Seriously, what was up with all that spit? Like kissing a horse.


Claim rb like a normal person, thanks.

@Another night with a missing mafia kill, or does a mafia member killing a mason override the night kill? I don't think so. Otherwise the Mason would be riddled with bullets.

If sheanna is cult and she blunted the Mason why is she still alive? = healed or Atlas with no vest left or got a vest from the Smith.

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 08:42 PM
So town has a better chance to win.

This isnt a -suicide by any means.

Its a "i need to become Mason or I could be a threat to town due to the Revos."

Right now the biggest threat to town is Sheeana and Ilban. But any confirmed Cits are right after that.

Town dont waste a lynch on us. Force Mafia/sk to use kills on us.
BAD BADB BADBASKFBDJKFNSDJG

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:42 PM
Becoming a confirmed citizen is impossible until you are masoned, at which time you will be confirmed mason and immune to Revo conversion. Stop trying to imply you have any credibility.

Guess it is true that im not confirmed. But believe me when I say I am and look how straight forward I am being.

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 08:43 PM
Guess it is true that im not confirmed. But believe me when I say I am and look how straight forward I am being.

The cunning part of my strategy is that excepting the lie about nothing happening and then admitting to being jailed, I've been 100% honest this entire game and it confused people.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:44 PM
Claim rb like a normal person, thanks.

@Another night with a missing mafia kill, or does a mafia member killing a mason override the night kill? I don't think so. Otherwise the Mason would be riddled with bullets.

If sheanna is cult and she blunted the Mason why is she still alive? = healed or Atlas with no vest left or got a vest from the Smith.

Was not RB. That was a comment relating back to Day 1. We agreed to kiss at Midnight.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:45 PM
The cunning part of my strategy is that excepting the lie about nothing happening and then admitting to being jailed, I've been 100% honest this entire game and it confused people.

Lol I believe it.

Did you claim Cit as well? Sorry trying to rememer.

Faykan
September 3rd, 2012, 08:45 PM
Lol I believe it.

Did you claim Cit as well? Sorry trying to rememer.

Yes I claimed Denizen.

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 08:46 PM
Claim rb like a normal person, thanks.

@Another night with a missing mafia kill, or does a mafia member killing a mason override the night kill? I don't think so. Otherwise the Mason would be riddled with bullets.

If sheanna is cult and she blunted the Mason why is she still alive? = healed or Atlas with no vest left or got a vest from the Smith.

Regardless, Kynes being dead confirms that she can only be cult, maf, or sk. It's very unlikely that she's a plain revolutionist. She would have had to be a Denizen to start, and then been targeted by the masons, the revolutionaries, and a doctor (with one doctor being afk modkilled already) all in the same night. It's most probable that she's Atlas himself, the SK, or a maf. All of which are high-priority lynch targets. I personally hope she's Atlas.

If Atlas is killed, would that permanently remove the Revolutionaries' ability to recruit?

Forum Mafia GM
September 3rd, 2012, 08:47 PM
If Atlas is killed, would that permanently remove the Revolutionaries' ability to recruit?

Refer to role cards.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:48 PM
Claim rb like a normal person, thanks.

@Another night with a missing mafia kill, or does a mafia member killing a mason override the night kill? I don't think so. Otherwise the Mason would be riddled with bullets.

If sheanna is cult and she blunted the Mason why is she still alive? = healed or Atlas with no vest left or got a vest from the Smith.

"Spoiler : Mason :
– As a member of the Saturnine you have a deep love of nature. Ryan has restricted your tree-hugging ways. You find friends among the Refugees.

Each night you may target a player to visit, and leave a pamphlet. If player is a denizen they will join you the following night, and be notified.
If your target is a member of Ryan Industries, Fontaine Enterprises, Atlas, or a Killing Neutral. You will be brutally murdered on the spot.
If your target is a member of the Revolutionaries, and they have 3+ members. You will kill each other. If they have 2 members you will learn each others identities."

Thats why.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:49 PM
Regardless, Kynes being dead confirms that she can only be cult, maf, or sk. It's very unlikely that she's a plain revolutionist. She would have had to be a Denizen to start, and then been targeted by the masons, the revolutionaries, and a doctor (with one doctor being afk modkilled already) all in the same night. It's most probable that she's Atlas himself, the SK, or a maf. All of which are high-priority lynch targets. I personally hope she's Atlas.



THIS!!!!

Torynn
September 3rd, 2012, 08:49 PM
I like how you totaly ignore the possibility that the Revos are at 4 already because one of the hidden neuts could have been a revo. That's so hawt Darwi. :*

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:51 PM
Yes I claimed Denizen.

Right so your in the same boat as me as we could both be future threats unless Masonised.... Which seems unlikely unless we have another doctor who can heal Duncun from incoming attacks.

Hope Mafia wastes night kills on us and not important town roles.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:52 PM
I like how you totaly ignore the possibility that the Revos are at 4 already because one of the hidden neuts could have been a revo. That's so hawt Darwi. :*

My Gawd.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 08:53 PM
Right so your in the same boat as me as we could both be future threats unless Masonised.... Which seems unlikely unless we have another doctor who can heal Duncun from incoming attacks.

Hope Mafia wastes night kills on us and not important town roles.

Duncan*

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 08:55 PM
Refer to role cards.

The role cards say nothing about Revolutionists having an ability to recruit if Atlas dies, but since you have previously posted information that runs contrary to what the role cards imply,namely that of a Revolutionist being sent for the kill when Revolutionists total 3 or more people (allowing Revolutionists to kill and recruit in the same night), despite the Revolutionist rolecard saying nothing about being sent for kills and Atlas's rolecard saying that he can personally target one person to kill, not that he can send a revolutionary to kill one person, I thought I might ask just to be sure.

Tessia
September 3rd, 2012, 08:56 PM
Interesting night indeed, modkills seem excessive though.
Since mason's will clearly states who is evil and since it's our best bet, I'm gonna vote Sheana
-vote Sheeana

Tessia
September 3rd, 2012, 08:56 PM
Moar pressure

Torynn
September 3rd, 2012, 08:57 PM
Apparently this: from the Atlas role card:

When Revolutionary Team reaches three living members you may target one player to kill per night.

N1 denzien recruited, N2 denizen recruited, N3 the very first night they could kill.

That's why i want to hear from Duncan if Sheanna got recruited.

Herpderp much?

Forum Mafia GM
September 3rd, 2012, 08:58 PM
Only the Revolutionary Leader can recruit. Any Revo can be sent to perform the kill. If they have the numbers.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 09:01 PM
Apparently this: from the Atlas role card:

When Revolutionary Team reaches three living members you may target one player to kill per night.

N1 denzien recruited, N2 denizen recruited, N3 the very first night they could kill.

That's why i want to hear from Duncan if Sheanna got recruited.

Herpderp much?

This is a very good point. Surprised we have not seen Duncan on here yet or Sheanna.

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 09:01 PM
I like how you totaly ignore the possibility that the Revos are at 4 already because one of the hidden neuts could have been a revo. That's so hawt Darwi. :*

Even if the revos are at 4 today, Sheeana is still most likely not one of them, unless she's Atlas. Your point?

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 09:02 PM
Moar pressure

Moar not being such a lurker!

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 09:03 PM
Apparently this: from the Atlas role card:

When Revolutionary Team reaches three living members you may target one player to kill per night.

N1 denzien recruited, N2 denizen recruited, N3 the very first night they could kill.

That's why i want to hear from Duncan if Sheanna got recruited.

Herpderp much?

The mason's last will stated that Atlas targeted them on night 1. Therefore, given that Atlas was the only living cultist at the beginning of the game, the revos could not possibly begin killing until night 4. Meaning Kynes was killed by targeting Atlas, SK, or Maf.

Please don't lynch Sheeana yet. We need more discussion first.

Torynn
September 3rd, 2012, 09:06 PM
Oh wait the Mason lw herpaderp. Shit you guys get me stupid too. Fuck! Going to bed! :-P

Tessia
September 3rd, 2012, 09:10 PM
Moar not being such a lurker!

I'm trying :c

Mohiam
September 3rd, 2012, 09:22 PM
I think Sheeana is Atlas from the death description and I doubt the revs had 2 recruits last night. She's not so confirmed that she can be lynched before speaking though.

I don't like the way the masons have been picking their targets. Recruiting claimed cits reduces the chance of the revolutionists recruiting and gives you a team member who is unlikely to die. You don't need to hide like the revolutionaries.

I half regret not voting Tylwyth yesterday. His explanations for the first two days are bullshit, he changes into a town leader overnight and he has a freudian slip(?) "our consort". On the other hand he seems too clueless to have a mafia team talking to him.

I'll post more when I'm not so tired.

Darwi
September 3rd, 2012, 09:57 PM
I think Sheeana is Atlas from the death description and I doubt the revs had 2 recruits last night. She's not so confirmed that she can be lynched before speaking though.

I don't like the way the masons have been picking their targets. Recruiting claimed cits reduces the chance of the revolutionists recruiting and gives you a team member who is unlikely to die. You don't need to hide like the revolutionaries.

I half regret not voting Tylwyth yesterday. His explanations for the first two days are bullshit, he changes into a town leader overnight and he has a freudian slip(?) "our consort". On the other hand he seems too clueless to have a mafia team talking to him.

I'll post more when I'm not so tired.

On the contrary, unless Sheeana was bussed last night with someone other than me, despite me having received a bussing notification last night, (and assuming that Kynes didn't lie in his will) Sheeana is 100% confirmed to be cult, maf, or sk. All of which we need to lynch.

I do however agree that we don't want to lynch her yet. I just wanted to clarify that she is guaranteed scum.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 10:18 PM
I think Sheeana is Atlas from the death description and I doubt the revs had 2 recruits last night. She's not so confirmed that she can be lynched before speaking though.

I don't like the way the masons have been picking their targets. Recruiting claimed cits reduces the chance of the revolutionists recruiting and gives you a team member who is unlikely to die. You don't need to hide like the revolutionaries.

I half regret not voting Tylwyth yesterday. His explanations for the first two days are bullshit, he changes into a town leader overnight and he has a freudian slip(?) "our consort". On the other hand he seems too clueless to have a mafia team talking to him.

I'll post more when I'm not so tired.

Fuck. You.

I already explained why i typed consort. Meant to say coroner. It happens. If thats the information you choose to go on then you cant call anyone clueless. Freudiant slip, how stupid are you? Dyslexic slip which is not at all bright but at least its not as far fetched as using it as information.

But your right, I must be evil. Asking doc to heal our Mason so he can convert, pointing out the masons last will and leading the town to a real scum lynch, two once Ilban is dead. Yup you got me. Clueless.

Margot
September 3rd, 2012, 10:20 PM
POP POP!

goes Sheeana's head.

-spiritual vote for Sheeana until she shows her face

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 10:21 PM
On the contrary, unless Sheeana was bussed last night with someone other than me, despite me having received a bussing notification last night, (and assuming that Kynes didn't lie in his will) Sheeana is 100% confirmed to be cult, maf, or sk. All of which we need to lynch.

I do however agree that we don't want to lynch her yet. I just wanted to clarify that she is guaranteed scum.

I like you Darwi. Hope I can fully trust you for what you say seems the most legit.

Tylwyth
September 3rd, 2012, 10:22 PM
POP POP!

goes Sheeana's head.

-spiritual vote for Sheeana until she shows her face

Hello lurker. Care to explain how your night went?

Margot
September 3rd, 2012, 10:38 PM
Hello lurker. Care to explain how your night went?

POP POP!

Famous quote

"Nothing happened to me last night"

Rather be a lurker who posts useful things once in a while than a spammer who doesn't help the town at all

Margot
September 3rd, 2012, 10:39 PM
Hello lurker. Care to explain how your night went?

POP POP!

Also, as I remember, you were a hard core lurker before people started piling votes on you for being such.

Tut tut.

Although, the same could be said about me

Irulan
September 3rd, 2012, 11:15 PM
Man, when nothing happens to you while people are dying around, it surely becomes scary.

I'll vote Sheena soon, but please find Serial Killer afterwards! We need if confirm if that's guy is Anuril or not. From Drug Dealer's last will:


You are all fucked and overrated.
If Anirul is not dead and there is a missing mob kill from night 3, Anirul is Serial Killer.
~le Dimwit

So please promise me that we kill Anuril afterwards. Since he apparently was hit by Mafia attack, he won't survive the next hit unless he has vest from armorsmith.

Mohiam
September 4th, 2012, 12:03 AM
Fuck. You.

I already explained why i typed consort. Meant to say coroner. It happens. If thats the information you choose to go on then you cant call anyone clueless. Freudiant slip, how stupid are you? Dyslexic slip which is not at all bright but at least its not as far fetched as using it as information.

But your right, I must be evil. Asking doc to heal our Mason so he can convert, pointing out the masons last will and leading the town to a real scum lynch, two once Ilban is dead. Yup you got me. Clueless.

Hey, I put a question mark after it. We've had a freudian slips before with fm Kromos saying death notes instead of last wills in FM 10. Saying consort when a consort is dead isn't as bad but it still shows you were thinking about the consort at the time of writing.

You've made a lot of rules, role list and role card mistakes + you've said many incorrect things about what happened during the day. This was most apparent when you were accusing Lupino but you might have been making up evidence for his own protection, idk.

You're not leading the town to lynch Sheeana, Kynes' last will is. How can you be so sure that Ilban is scum? Or are you just protecting him like you did with Lupino?



Man, when nothing happens to you while people are dying around, it surely becomes scary.

I'll vote Sheena soon, but please find Serial Killer afterwards! We need if confirm if that's guy is Anuril or not. From Drug Dealer's last will:


So please promise me that we kill Anuril afterwards. Since he apparently was hit by Mafia attack, he won't survive the next hit unless he has vest from armorsmith.

Anirul died. He was the armoursmith.

Irulan
September 4th, 2012, 12:10 AM
Whoops, sorry my bad. I was looking mostly on roles in the gaveyard, not names (except for Lupino).

I already said that I will vote Sheena, but she is at L-4 now, right? We don't need to end important day that fast. Everyone needs to speak.

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 02:38 AM
So kids, in case you haven't noticed i'm from the EU.
day/night starts at 3 am for me, go figure why i don't post after that (well since i'm sometimes up til like 5 am i post at the start of the day, sometimes lots to compesate for not attending 8 hours of discussion)
Darwis first post seemed a LOT scummish to me today
Tylwyth is still an idiot and as i've said MOST LIKELY A GHOST. He will never be killed. I also wifomed my way into survival til now, pretty good on my part i must say, since atleast 3 people are aiming their weapons at me now.
Reasons for the recruits:
N1, Other Kynes, never posted anything, just submitted a night action before me. Never found night chat, that fucking bastard. Tried recruiting murbella (why i do not know)
N2, Talis, wanted to try him n1, figured lurkers are likely to be scum denizens, so it was a hit either way. Seems like i found the only lurking doc, badluck me.
N3, i proposed irulan to check up on his denizen claim, since he was likely to not get enforced anymore. New Kynes proposed Sheeana and i just went along with it.
Sheeana is scum 100%
Also, we started with 2 masons, not 1. We never managed to recruit.

All suspicions in Kynes' LW are mine. Here's the rest of what i think of the current town:

Well my thoughts:
Siona: Scum
Paulus: Denizen/Scum
Lupino: Probably Town or Ghost. I already explained why he would jokingly claim doctor.
Kailea: Dumb town or SK.
Any lurker might be maf/SK.
Murbella + Talis are Town PR/Benign Neutrals/Witch, since we couldn't convert them and we didn't die.
Tylwyth: I really dno now, if he's a citizen he's really really stupid. Might be a mafia member cuz of the lack of hammering.
Ilban: Probably scum.
Vernius: gives mostly useless feedback, then again, most sheeptownies do.
Anirul: given how ridiculous the antics are, probably town. If he was scum he'd get too much attention acting like that.
Mohiam: Seems helpful, probably town.
Mavis: Sheep. Probably town, still a sheep. Can be maf. Definitely not SK.
Irulan: Why would you ever claim Cit day1? Well i guess he is, or he is ATLAS. I think we should visit this dude as he's likely to not get enforced.
Darwi: Scummish town, seems overly active to be scum.
Choybn: Executioner. Or some similar benign neutral shit.
Estes: Sheep town once again.
Kagin: Dumb town or maf.

Lupino was obviously Town and not a doctor, i don't see the point in having him jailed :s
Also atleast 1 hidden town role is denizen, i assure you that. I don't think there has ever been an FM where 1 of the hidden roles didn't turn out to be just another citizen.

The thing that pisses me off, is that apparently, none of our investigative roles could find shit. Sheriff had 3 nights, so if he found something today he might be holding it back since we have a confirmed scum.
I guess we should commence the lynch exactly 24 hours after the day started, in order to give everybody a chance to post. If Sheeana is Atlas i wish we had an alive Coroner to check up on her visits...

ALSO
I think red mafia has an enforcer
I also think that orange mafia has either a Graverobber or a Consigliere

I proclaimed and still stick to my suspicion of Tylwyth being Ghost/Jester. Well i've given you everything about everybody who posted on D3. Atleast 2 Denizen claims are null and void of all the claims we've gotten so far, well scum will have to kill each other off so we still have a good shot. As stated, jailing does NOT provide immunity, so protect me some other way. Given the playersize, we have atleast another protective role (atleast the BD).
i'll vote Sheeana now, if we get a preemptive hammer, those people who vote the last 2 times are definitely scum.

-vote Sheeana

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 02:49 AM
Okay, given the lack of feedback

Red mafia hidden roles: Enforcer
Orange mafia hidden roles: Graverobber + Mafioso/Consigliere

this seems like the most possible distribution given the lack of feedback we've received so far
Given the lack of hammering and that Sheeana was orange mafia, Tylwyth seems like a possible maf member, but the also might have not wanted to hammer a ghost.
i don't have much else to say other than protect me (doc/bg/another armorsmith)

If i get busdriven while i try to recruit Mafia/SK/Cult do i die or does the person who i got swapped with die?
this is important cuz if i don't die i can just get driven around in a limousine. Or any bioshock related flying thingy.

Mavis
September 4th, 2012, 02:53 AM
Ok;
First, last night was not that bad. The death of 4 town is balanced by the loss of a neutral and 1 orange mafia
Secondly, there were 5 kills not including mod-kills, so am I correct in viewing that as 3 of the SK, 1 for each mafia? That means rebel didn't kill.
Third, In the worst case scenario its 4 Rebel vs 2 Red Maf vs 3 Orange Maf vs SK vs 11 Town

Mavis
September 4th, 2012, 02:54 AM
Ok;
First, last night was not that bad. The death of 6 town is balanced by the loss of a neutral and 1 orange mafia
Secondly, there were 5 kills not including mod-kills, so am I correct in viewing that as 3 of the SK, 1 for each mafia? That means rebel didn't kill.
Third, In the worst case scenario its 4 Rebel vs 2 Red Maf vs 3 Orange Maf vs SK vs 11 Town

Fixed number

Irulan
September 4th, 2012, 02:56 AM
It is clearly written that there are no hidden town Denizens. Which leaves exactly 6 denizens in the game, including me.

Also, you are including your thoughts on the dead players as well. Siona, Vernus and Anuril are dead.

I don't mind if you would recruit me, Duncan, but you should also confirm Paulus/Tylwyth's identity as Denizens. Of course there is also a risk that one of then is Mafia, so please be careful. I think that another Denizen is Tylwyth. If I were in your place, I would recruit him first to confirm if he is denizen or not. You do not need to worry about being attacked for a while - we still have a Bus driver. Unless jailor accidentaly jails Bus Driver.

Mavis
September 4th, 2012, 02:58 AM
My bad, I didn't realise that the 2 Hidden Neutrals in the role list are the ones still alive.

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 02:59 AM
i will hit you so fucking hard mavis

Mavis
September 4th, 2012, 03:02 AM
Can rebels kill and recruit at the same night?

Mavis
September 4th, 2012, 03:03 AM
i will hit you so fucking hard mavis

Well I haven't been able to pay attention to this for a lot of time, I am trying my best to catch up; it is better then letting myself be mod-killed isn't it?

Irulan
September 4th, 2012, 03:04 AM
Ok, since there will be also skip votes after hammer vote, I'll make my bold step.

-vote Sheanna

Even after she is hammered, we can still continue our discussion as long as no one votes to skip. By the way, who was switched last night?

Paulus
September 4th, 2012, 03:05 AM
Ok;
First, last night was not that bad. The death of 4 town is balanced by the loss of a neutral and 1 orange mafia
Secondly, there were 5 kills not including mod-kills, so am I correct in viewing that as 3 of the SK, 1 for each mafia? That means rebel didn't kill.
Third, In the worst case scenario its 4 Rebel vs 2 Red Maf vs 3 Orange Maf vs SK vs 11 Town


Read the opening post next time, please.


Let me explain it to you.
The Masons tried to recruit a non-town(Sheeana) and that means that the kills were 3 SK, 1 Mafia, 1 Mason conversion failiure
The Cult tried to convert a Mason Night 1 so there cannot be 4 cultists.

Ya guys need to read day chat!!! :P

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 03:06 AM
i firmly believe we do not have a hidden cultist
executioner / ghost / jester seems most likely at this point. Perhaps another amnesiac.
Seems like me Siona wanted to look scummy until she gets checked, wait for an orange maf member to get killed, then convert to the bigger mafia team.

The rev team is at 3 members at the very worst. I still don't think they managed to recruit, since atlas can only go for denizens. The chance of that happening are extremely low.
Also, we have to take into account that atlas didn't go for afk people after his first attempt. The modkills and me are almost conclusive evidence that atlas didn't target afk people anymore after night 1. Given what Atlas knew, he would have gone for the people he thought most likely to be citizens.
Since almost all citizens act scummy, who are the most likely to still be them?

We have 1 confirmed town / neutral by now, and i think Murbella is a town PR most likely. Seems like murbella'll die
My other town hunch should be good aswell, so we basically got 3 protown 99% actual townsfolk i am convinced of. Problem is where to go from here? Irulan might have been skipped because of enforcing. Which is the other most likely denizen claim? I think it might be Paulus, and i've been suspecting so since D2.

Red mafia members were supposedly active as i already stated on D2. I wish i was a multishot vigi and could just shoot all of em.

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 03:07 AM
Can rebels kill and recruit at the same night?

THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED
god you piss me off

Paulus
September 4th, 2012, 03:09 AM
THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED
god you piss me off

LOLZ

These guys aren't really helping, huh?

Irulan
September 4th, 2012, 03:10 AM
N1, Other Kynes, never posted anything, just submitted a night action before me. Never found night chat, that fucking bastard. Tried recruiting murbella (why i do not know)

How did you knew that he tried to recruit Murbella if he did not found the night chat?

Paulus
September 4th, 2012, 03:11 AM
I wonder who has the armorsmith vests?
O.o

Estes
September 4th, 2012, 03:11 AM
Estes: Sheep town once again.


-vote Sheeana
Least i'm not scum?
I just woke up, I got about 20 minutes before i have to start getting ready for school. (Which sucks)
I think we are dealing with a ghost/jester for our final neutral. And i think if the sheriff would have found something. He would have said something at least so it seems like all our invest roles failed.

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 03:16 AM
How did you knew that he tried to recruit Murbella if he did not found the night chat?

i'm not answering that.

Mohiam
September 4th, 2012, 03:17 AM
Blocked 1
Blocked 2
Bussed 1
Bussed 2
Bussed 3
Jailed
Attacked+healed


Night 1
Bellonda
Mavis
Vernius
Paulus
Sheeana
Faykan
Murbella


Night 2
Ilban

Anirul


Bellonda



Night 3


Darwi


Lupino




Ilban (1): Faykan
Sheeana (11): Paulus, Tylwyth, Ilban, Alia, Torynn, Estes, Chobyn, Kailea, Tessia, Duncan, Irulan

12 votes are required to lynch.

Please unvote so that she isn't hammered before she can speak. That's never a good idea no matter how bad it looks for her. Unless I'm mistake day will end once someone is lynched.

Will day end as soon as someone has been lynched?

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 03:17 AM
Estes, sheep town have the highest possibility of being maf. They are unhelpful, state the obvious and just jump on bandwagons.

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 03:17 AM
Mohiam, she is confirmed.

Irulan
September 4th, 2012, 03:17 AM
But you know that for sure, right? He really went to recruit Murbella?

Irulan
September 4th, 2012, 03:18 AM
Will day end as soon as someone has been lynched?

Daqy will end only if majority votes to skip after hammer vote.

Estes
September 4th, 2012, 03:18 AM
Estes, sheep town have the highest possibility of being maf. They are unhelpful, state the obvious and just jump on bandwagons.

I'll let you know i'm not mafia, I'm just a fail at my role.

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 03:19 AM
you know that's a scumtell, right?
GM said so irulan

Mohiam
September 4th, 2012, 03:22 AM
Mohiam, she is confirmed.

Even if she is confirmed I still want to hear what she has to say. We might also have a better lynch target after everyone posts. There is no harm in waiting.


Daqy will end only if majority votes to skip after hammer vote.

Where does it say that?

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 03:24 AM
I already gave atleast 3 scum targets to work with..
Also Tylwyth will never die at night, just because of the probability of him being ghost is so effing high

Mavis
September 4th, 2012, 03:35 AM
Read the opening post next time, please.


Let me explain it to you.
The Masons tried to recruit a non-town(Sheeana) and that means that the kills were 3 SK, 1 Mafia, 1 Mason conversion failiure
The Cult tried to convert a Mason Night 1 so there cannot be 4 cultists.

Ya guys need to read day chat!!! :P

Just finished reading, thanks; I skimmed through the post at first to find who died and the roles.

Paulus
September 4th, 2012, 04:13 AM
Yawn.

School in 2 hours... yay...

...
..
.

Tessia
September 4th, 2012, 04:21 AM
Count yourselves lucky... I have final exams in two weeks.

Paulus
September 4th, 2012, 04:33 AM
Count yourselves lucky... I have final exams in two weeks.

STILL

ARGH

SCHOOL T.T

Anyway...
I think the cult is at three now...
Did you guys also notice how the DD said if there is a missing kill that Arirul is SK (Which he wasn't)
DO they have a consort as well? I also think that the GM would not put in a coroner w/o a janitor/disguiser
Speculative Role list + Claims, Please make your own.
I put all the citizen claimers on the not turned cultist.

Andrew Ryan - Godfather
[Hidden Mafia Role] - Enforcer?

Peach Wilkins - Framer
[Hidden Mafia Role] - Consort???

[Hidden Mafia Role] - Janitor/Disguiser???
Atlas -
Revolutionary Leader

[Hidden Neutral] - Serial Killer
[Hidden Neutral] - Exe/Jester/Ghost/Amn ?????

Sheriff

[Hidden Town Power] - Jailor
[Hidden Town Power] - Mason - Duncan
[Hidden Town Power] - Bus Driver
[Hidden Town Power] - Doctor/Bodyguard ????

[Hidden Town Power] - Vigilante/Gunsmith ?????

[Hidden Town Power] - Investigator/Sheriff ???????
[Hidden Town Power] - ???????

Denizen / Revolutionist
Denizen
/ Revolutionist

Denizen - Paulus


Denizen - Irulan
Denizen - Faykan
Denizen - Tylwyth

Paulus
September 4th, 2012, 04:36 AM
That role list got messed up T.T

but you get the point.

...

Mohiam
September 4th, 2012, 04:49 AM
I could see there being a coroner without a jan/disguiser because of how useful he would have been to find the revolutionaries after Atlas died, counter the grave robber or clear people dead mafia have targeted. I don't think there will be 2 consorts since that was done in FM 12 but maybe Tylwyth was trying to tell us something when he said "our consort".

I don't think the revolutionists have 2 recruits yet unless they've risked going for the cit claimers. Why do you think they have 3 members and who do you think they could be?

Mohiam
September 4th, 2012, 04:51 AM
Can you unvote Sheeana? We shouldn't hammer someone 10 hours into the day and Irulan hasn't got back to me on where the GM said day doesn't end after a lynch.

Paulus
September 4th, 2012, 04:53 AM
I don't think the revolutionists have 2 recruits yet unless they've risked going for the cit claimers. Why do you think they have 3 members and who do you think they could be?

I think the cult would have played boldly and gone for some sort of cit claimer.
As for who the cultists are...
I dont know, but Irulan seems to be culted...
meh, speculation is speculatory

and sure

-Unvote Sheeana

Mavis
September 4th, 2012, 05:03 AM
I'm off for the day; different timezones suck, you want me to place my vote on sheeana or not?

Mavis
September 4th, 2012, 05:05 AM
Ok I am off

Faykan
September 4th, 2012, 05:37 AM
I'm off for the day; different timezones suck, you want me to place my vote on sheeana or not?

They just talked about how they wanted to wait to hammer and you still had to ask that? You've literally spent the day doing nothing but outright ignoring everything that'd been previously discussed or asked and trying to seem important. I still think you are another Mafia

As for me, if revolutionaries weren't given conversion priority (and we aren't running the risk of you dying) I'd ask you to convert me to confirm town. But given that that is the case, It's best to leave the decision about who to convert next in your capable hands Duncan. Hopefully Sheeana is Atlas and we can put a stop to them soon.

Faykan
September 4th, 2012, 05:38 AM
I'm off to class, I'll get back on in a couple hours (I have like a 3 hour break between classes today)

Tessia
September 4th, 2012, 05:53 AM
STILL

ARGH

SCHOOL T.T

Anyway...
I think the cult is at three now...
Did you guys also notice how the DD said if there is a missing kill that Arirul is SK (Which he wasn't)
DO they have a consort as well? I also think that the GM would not put in a coroner w/o a janitor/disguiser
Speculative Role list + Claims, Please make your own.
I put all the citizen claimers on the not turned cultist.

Andrew Ryan - Godfather
[Hidden Mafia Role] - Enforcer?

Peach Wilkins - Framer
[Hidden Mafia Role] - Consort???

[Hidden Mafia Role] - Janitor/Disguiser???
Atlas -
Revolutionary Leader

[Hidden Neutral] - Serial Killer
[Hidden Neutral] - Exe/Jester/Ghost/Amn ?????

Sheriff

[Hidden Town Power] - Jailor
[Hidden Town Power] - Mason - Duncan
[Hidden Town Power] - Bus Driver
[Hidden Town Power] - Doctor/Bodyguard ????

[Hidden Town Power] - Vigilante/Gunsmith ?????

[Hidden Town Power] - Investigator/Sheriff ???????
[Hidden Town Power] - ???????

Denizen / Revolutionist
Denizen
/ Revolutionist

Denizen - Paulus


Denizen - Irulan
Denizen - Faykan
Denizen - Tylwyth
We really don't have enough information at all to make effective use of the roles list.

Paulus
September 4th, 2012, 06:00 AM
We really don't have enough information at all to make effective use of the roles list.

No we don't...

I'm just speculating

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 06:15 AM
I've serious doubts about having a janitor/disguiser
2 simple reasons: Janitor should have cleaned by now, 4 days in, definitely 1 or 2 cleans should have been performed to throw the town into disarray
The Coroner is really powerful in this setup. Not only does he discover the cause of death (i think he should), but he also gives us info about who the CL visited, who the DD visited, if there was a lie about a DD target (like busdriver 2 target, DD visited someone else, and there was a 3rd busclaim). We could discern who is not on whose team and so on.

Coroners are really potent with DD and CL setups. Another reason to add DD to sc2 mafia it would seem that hasn't occured the me. The great synergy with coroner is astounding.

So i don't think we have a janitor/disguiser. Possible, but again, less likely.

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 06:16 AM
i'm off to buy some stuff, i might not be that active today and tomorrow (real time not FM day)

Sheeana
September 4th, 2012, 07:04 AM
Wait, wait please. Last night I was swapped! If a bus driver is willing to out himself, the person that I got switched with is mafia/sk/atlas.
I have reason to believe there may be 2 bus drivers, because on day 1 someone claimed driven and then afterward I received a message saying I was switched. As did paulus, so I think I got switched with him on the first night. I know it wasn't a DD because someone else got attacked/healed.
On night 1 I also got an armor plasmid (vest) which was likely headed to paulus. Sorry paulus! However I used it up last night because I was worried of the serial killers rampage. Which worked out since I did get attacked last night, accounting for a missing kill.

Irulan
September 4th, 2012, 07:05 AM
I bet that Sheaana is a Serial Killer.

Irulan
September 4th, 2012, 07:06 AM
Wait a second, I JUST received her message. Don't know if she lies or not. But Maybe it is an act to coax Bus Driver out of hiding.

Irulan
September 4th, 2012, 07:08 AM
You forgot that there is an Drug Dealer, who still could use his night action last night. I think that someone could be drugged.

Sheeana
September 4th, 2012, 07:14 AM
No. I didn't mean for it to come off as wanting to out a driver, I'm saying that the bus knows whoever I was swapped with is scum. If he chooses to reveal then that's up to his discretion. I know I wasn't drug bussed because I'm not scum.

Irulan
September 4th, 2012, 07:17 AM
Then you should tell us your role and what you did last night. Else no one will buy what you have said.

Darwi claimed that he was bussed this night, so does that mean he is the scum you are looking for?

Sheeana
September 4th, 2012, 07:23 AM
Darwi. Maybe. Unless there are 2 drivers like I thought. It doesn't make sense to have 3 bussed claims and an attacked/healed on day 1. The attacked/healed would have to have been drugged since all kills were accounted for.

I might claim. I'll wait for people to digest this and if I still have to claim I will.

Chobyn
September 4th, 2012, 07:30 AM
Wait, wait please. Last night I was swapped! If a bus driver is willing to out himself, the person that I got switched with is mafia/sk/atlas.
I have reason to believe there may be 2 bus drivers, because on day 1 someone claimed driven and then afterward I received a message saying I was switched. As did paulus, so I think I got switched with him on the first night. I know it wasn't a DD because someone else got attacked/healed.
On night 1 I also got an armor plasmid (vest) which was likely headed to paulus. Sorry paulus! However I used it up last night because I was worried of the serial killers rampage. Which worked out since I did get attacked last night, accounting for a missing kill.

Good try. There was no missing kill last night.

I knew you would claim bussed.
It's a strat that would seem more believable if darwi didn't already claim before you.

Chobyn
September 4th, 2012, 07:36 AM
Is the person who a mason targets notified that they killed him?

Irulan
September 4th, 2012, 07:37 AM
Ok. Here is my proposition to the Bus Driver. It is improtant that BUS DRIVER reads this as soon as possible.

If you switched Sheena with scum and Kynes died because of that, the you should reveal yourself and openly say who was switched with Sheena.

However, if you NEVER switched Sheena with anyone last night, DO NOT reveal yourself to anyone.

I will give Bus Driver 18 hours (plenty of time for this day). If Bus Driver will not reveal that he switched Sheena with anyone during that time, then we will lynch Sheena on the spot.

Again, Bus Driver, if you think Sheena is innocent and was falsely accussed because of your night actions, reveal yourself in the next 18 hours. However, if she lies, DO NOT reveal yourself at all and just wait for 18 hours until we lynch her.



And for the rest of town, please copy my post in quotes as much as you want in order for Bus driver to see this message.

Mohiam
September 4th, 2012, 07:39 AM
A mafia team missed their kill last night. They probably hit Sheeana like she said. Her vesting at the right moment is harder to believe. She might have received a vest from Anirul and is using it as an excuse or is just lying about the vest. Why did you say you thought you were drugged and not bus driven after you got the armour?


Good morning! I have some bad news. ...well it's not really bad news, it's more of..weird news? It just throws a wrench in everything.

I was bus swapped last night. And I'm the third to claim so. I believe that I may have been DD'd, considering 2 bus drivers is...unlikely.

You do need to role claim. You're at L-2 and you need to convince us that Darwi or if he was drugged the real swapped person is Atlas instead of you.

Mohiam
September 4th, 2012, 07:51 AM
If you were bussed I'm surprised no one is protesting against your lynch. You would think the BD (if he's not afk) would have said something to try and save you without revealing himself.

Kagin
September 4th, 2012, 07:58 AM
No. I didn't mean for it to come off as wanting to out a driver, I'm saying that the bus knows whoever I was swapped with is scum. If he chooses to reveal then that's up to his discretion. I know I wasn't drug bussed because I'm not scum.

wait what

Chobyn
September 4th, 2012, 08:00 AM
o a slip

Kagin
September 4th, 2012, 08:01 AM
BD, don't reveal unless you really did swap her.

You seem nervous sheena, you're a bad lurker and I don't know why you would get attacked. You also withheld information.
Most likely you had autovest, and you feel like you can lie about that now that coroner and armorsmith are dead.

I say burn the witch.

Chobyn
September 4th, 2012, 08:07 AM
Was it on purpose that only town members were modkilled?
IE, if someone lurked as bad as edwina and was mafia, would you modkill them still?

Sheeana
September 4th, 2012, 08:09 AM
wait what

I'm saying I know I was bussed because if I wasn't then I would be scum.

Mohaim, I was going to have it in my will that vernius got drugged until lupino claimed attack/heal.
Also I wanted to appear to be a little helpless so mafia wouldn't kill me since I'm a PR

Chobyn
September 4th, 2012, 08:15 AM
claim

Forum Mafia GM
September 4th, 2012, 08:16 AM
If i get busdriven while i try to recruit Mafia/SK/Cult do i die or does the person who i got swapped with die?[/COLOR]

Do you understand how bus driver works... Of course you would die.

You would also die if the person you were swapped with was attacked.

Kagin
September 4th, 2012, 08:17 AM
There's a higher chance of bus driving you than DD drugging you if you are scum tho.
You could also be a scum who was drugged by opposing team, grasping at straws.
If you claim, it better be good. Maybe claiming for you is better than BD outing.

Forum Mafia GM
September 4th, 2012, 08:17 AM
Will day end as soon as someone has been lynched?

Yes.


Well. That or as soon as I get back after work.

Chobyn
September 4th, 2012, 08:30 AM
claim. im about to go to sleep and if you dont i will leave my vote on you.

I agree. You definitely need to claim before bus driver outs.

Sheeana
September 4th, 2012, 08:33 AM
Fuck. I'm on my phone in class and I can't color my words.
I'm the god damn sheriff.
I invested paulus night one (myself?) because I wanted to know if the town leader was actually town. (not suspicious)
On night 2 I checked Jessica because of her random defense of Duncan (member of mafia)
Night 3 I checked kagin cuz she was lurking on the fringe (not suspicious)

Mohiam
September 4th, 2012, 08:33 AM
4 - Order of Operations

Killing Actions / Arson Dousing / Jailor Execute / Killing Item Use (-1 Life)
Autopsies / Healing (+1 Life)
Cleaning / Grave Robbing
Blackmailing / Drugs Take Effect / Ninja Steals Ability

The drug dealer didn't drug last night so Darwi's bussed claim is probably genuine.

Vernius was the drug dealer so was he the one bussed and Paulus was drugged on night 1? However Vernius may have lied about being bussed and drugged Murbella with attacked+healed. This would explain the two false notifications from night 1.

I agree with Kagin that Sheeana should claim instead of the BD. If the BD claims we might lose our only protective role.

Sheanna's claim requires a lot of stuff to have happened.


Sheanna is given armour on night 1 and bussed with either Vernius or Paulus.
Sheanna is bus driven with Darwi.
Mason recruits Sheanna but is re-directed onto Darwi and is killed. Darwi is scum.
Mafia attacks Darwi but is re-directed onto Sheanna.
Sheanna uses the vest given to her on night 1 to survive the attack.

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 08:35 AM
We either get 2 BD claims or none, and i'm convinced that Sheeana is maf/sk/atlas. Die.
Also, you did NOT check Tylwyth, who should have been lynched. You could have defended him if you were sheriff and it would have turned out that he was NS. You are clearly scum.

Mohiam
September 4th, 2012, 08:38 AM
Fuck. I'm on my phone in class and I can't color my words.
I'm the god damn sheriff.
I invested paulus night one (myself?) because I wanted to know if the town leader was actually town. (not suspicious)
On night 2 I checked Jessica because of her random defense of Duncan (member of mafia)
Night 3 I checked kagin cuz she was lurking on the fringe (not suspicious)

I find the tone of your claim very scummy. I'd rather have the real sheriff out than the BD but I think he should keep quiet for now.

Chobyn
September 4th, 2012, 08:42 AM
and with that my vote happily stays on. goodnight

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 08:42 AM
well at this point having the real Sheriff claim would be a good thing. We'd just get a Sheriff CC if the real sheriff reveals later on..

Chobyn
September 4th, 2012, 08:44 AM
I wish the gm would answer my questions

Chobyn
September 4th, 2012, 08:44 AM
sheriff cc's later on aren't terrible. it will be easy enough to discern which is real from their reports

Irulan
September 4th, 2012, 08:58 AM
Don't forget about my 18 hour plan. Sheena, regardless of what you claimed, you will be lynched if Bus Driver will not step in and defend you (assuming you were really switched). Your claim here is pointless. Jeccisa died the same night you checked her, and the same thing happened to Kagin. So your claims are not credible.


Here is my proposition to the Bus Driver. It is improtant that BUS DRIVER reads this as soon as possible.

If you switched Sheena with scum and Kynes died because of that, the you should reveal yourself and openly say who was switched with Sheena.

However, if you NEVER switched Sheena with anyone last night, DO NOT reveal yourself to anyone.

I will give Bus Driver 18 hours (plenty of time for this day). If Bus Driver will not reveal that he switched Sheena with anyone during that time, then we will lynch Sheena on the spot.

Again, Bus Driver, if you think Sheena is innocent and was falsely accussed because of your night actions, reveal yourself in the next 18 hours. However, if she lies, DO NOT reveal yourself at all and just wait for 18 hours until we lynch her.



And for the rest of town, please copy my post in quotes as much as you want in order for Bus driver to see this message.

Irulan
September 4th, 2012, 09:06 AM
Oh yeah, to keep my 18 hour plan in motion, I will -unvote Sheena for now.

Tylwyth
September 4th, 2012, 09:06 AM
Fuck. I'm on my phone in class and I can't color my words.
I'm the god damn sheriff.
I invested paulus night one (myself?) because I wanted to know if the town leader was actually town. (not suspicious)
On night 2 I checked Jessica because of her random defense of Duncan (member of mafia)
Night 3 I checked kagin cuz she was lurking on the fringe (not suspicious)

Real Sheriff DO NOT reveal and counter claim.

Three nights and no info from Sheriff? Must be saving his/her grand reveal when they have one hell of a long scum list.

Faykan
September 4th, 2012, 09:19 AM
-unvote
Forgot to do that earlier.
I'm just waiting on a BD claim or lack thereof within a reasonable timeframe. My vote will be to lynch Sheeana.

Murbella
September 4th, 2012, 09:21 AM
Real Sheriff DO NOT reveal and counter claim.

Three nights and no info from Sheriff? Must be saving his/her grand reveal when they have one hell of a long scum list.

Stop trying to direct PR actions, pls.
I.e "JAILR JAIL AND EXEC SO AND SO TONIGHT"
"SHERIFF DONT REVEAL"

You're scummy as fuck and no one likes you. If you were a real denizen you would have suicided last night to get the FoS off of you so we didn't mislynch you today. The only reason we haven't lynchtrained you yet is because we got some pretty solid evidence on someone else.
I'll give you this, Tylwyth - you can WIFOM pretty hard. You stink to me like mafia WIFOMing stupid denizen WIFOMing ghost/jester. In my mind, that still makes you mafia. As a denizen, your job isn't to try and tell the PRs what to do or what to say or when to reveal or how to direct their night actions. If you were doing it for WIFOM protection or some other WIFOM purpose, then I wouldn't call you out on it, but you stink like you're full of shit to me.
It's evident to me that your posts are full of WIFOM... pretty obvious, really. That alone goes against your favor because of this whole stupid ass bad denizen thing you're trying to pull.
I'll be voting Sheena around that 18 hour mark assuming the BD doesn't out themselves and claim (very doubtful), but Tylwyth don't think for a split second that ANY of your posts will be taken seriously by any vet townies here. You're better off trying that ghost WIFOM you were bullshitting with yesterday.

This game is pretty much fucked because of lurkers, TBH. All of our town lurkers get modkilled after not hammering Tylwyth (obv scum) when he was L-1 yesterday.
If Tylwyth wasn't obviously scum in the rest of the scum's eyes, he would have been hammered early due to the very small majority town has in this game.

TL;DR I know what I'm talking about and I say Tylwyth and Sheena are both scum.

Murbella
September 4th, 2012, 09:24 AM
Ok. Here is my proposition to the Bus Driver. It is improtant that BUS DRIVER reads this as soon as possible.

If you switched Sheena with scum and Kynes died because of that, the you should reveal yourself and openly say who was switched with Sheena.

However, if you NEVER switched Sheena with anyone last night, DO NOT reveal yourself to anyone.

I will give Bus Driver 18 hours (plenty of time for this day). If Bus Driver will not reveal that he switched Sheena with anyone during that time, then we will lynch Sheena on the spot.

Again, Bus Driver, if you think Sheena is innocent and was falsely accussed because of your night actions, reveal yourself in the next 18 hours. However, if she lies, DO NOT reveal yourself at all and just wait for 18 hours until we lynch her.



And for the rest of town, please copy my post in quotes as much as you want in order for Bus driver to see this message.

Just gonna go ahead and leave this here because I think it's a great idea.

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 09:26 AM
I don't like the BD revealing himself... i'd much rather have the Sheriff reveal himself.
Why? Because the busdriver can still drive him around while i do my masoning. If the Busdriver reveals himself he's basically toast.
On the other hand he can be swapping himself, that is, if he actually drove Sheanna.
I think Sheanna is trying to tell her maf buddies to claim BD, then have the real BD out...

Duncan
September 4th, 2012, 09:27 AM
Both Tylwyth and Sheanna have to die.

Murbella
September 4th, 2012, 09:28 AM
I don't like the BD revealing himself... i'd much rather have the Sheriff reveal himself.
Why? Because the busdriver can still drive him around while i do my masoning. If the Busdriver reveals himself he's basically toast.
On the other hand he can be swapping himself, that is, if he actually drove Sheanna.
I think Sheanna is trying to tell her maf buddies to claim BD, then have the real BD out...
This is another possibility. If this is true, then Irulan could have just been going right along with the plan.
Or he could just gave not considered that possibility until you just said that, like me.

WIFOMWIFOMWIFOMWIFOM

Murbella
September 4th, 2012, 09:29 AM
Both Tylwyth and Sheanna have to die.

That much is evident. I tried to spell it out as clearly as I could to some of the obv noob townies we have here.
IDK if they know how to read, though :(

Murbella
September 4th, 2012, 09:30 AM
K, going to lunch and then I have class at 1pm central.
I'll be back on in about 3 hours probably.

Mohiam
September 4th, 2012, 09:52 AM
inb4 Murbella dies tonight.

Mohiam
September 4th, 2012, 09:57 AM
inb4 Murbella is the sk D:

Faykan
September 4th, 2012, 10:00 AM
Hmm so even though I'm in code contact with the jailor he's given me no info thus far except his identity. I feel kind of useless atm.

Mohiam
September 4th, 2012, 10:01 AM
nvm killing neutrals cause mismasons too. Murbella is a PR or the last neutral and should be protected.

Kagin
September 4th, 2012, 10:16 AM
Its ok Faykan we don't need to know his identity
Can't believe the jailor would tell anyone to trust Faykan, I mean wtf. Do not, under any circumstances, reveal yourself to potential cult.


Fuck. I'm on my phone in class and I can't color my words.
I'm the god damn sheriff.
I invested paulus night one (myself?) because I wanted to know if the town leader was actually town. (not suspicious)
On night 2 I checked Jessica because of her random defense of Duncan (member of mafia)
Night 3 I checked kagin cuz she was lurking on the fringe (not suspicious)

Excuse me?? Lurking, that I haven't done for a long time

Who was the first person to call me a she? I think they might be in cahoots.

Tylwyth
September 4th, 2012, 10:18 AM
Both Tylwyth and Sheanna have to die.

Anyone who has claimed Cit and is not converted to Mason has to die in fear that they could be Cult.

Just dont waste a Lynch on us. Force the Mafia/Sk to use Night Kills on us as Cits/Cult is currently their biggest threat.

Kagin
September 4th, 2012, 10:20 AM
Also, I vaguely remember myself claiming "I'm a goddamn useless cit" when i was scum, eh. I'm not being meta. I'm drawing a parallel.