citizens, and pubs.

[Chane]

so, this is my set-up:

Mafia killing
Mafia support
Mafia deception
town core
town core
town investigative
town investigative
town protection
town protection
town killing
town power
town random
neutral killing
neutral benig
any random (neutral, killing excluded)

start of game:

pub: OMG SHIT SET-UP
pub2: idd I am citi this shit sucks
pub3: omg arson without protection I am not playing this shit
pub4: omg no GF really? how am I supposed to win?

LEAVE TRAIN FOLLOWS

/discuss

[Voss]

idk why you ask to discuss. you wrote the word 'pub'
'nough said
/close thread

[Chane]

idk why you ask to discuss. you wrote the word 'pub'
'nough said
/close thread

discuss pub behavior. and discuss the set-up.

no reason for /thread.

stop trolling or gtfo my thread please.

[Slaol]

I always allow for Citizens. I try to exclude as few roles as possible. I like possibilities. Even if some roles don't have the largest impact all the time. It's about getting possibilities and figuring out what is going on.

I also used to have a 4-Mafia save that had Disguiser, Mafia Support, Mafia Deception (exclude Disguiser), and Mafia Random (exclude killing) so they had no natural Mafioso, but one Mafia would always transform. There were a few rages at the assumption that they couldn't kill, but most figured out that GF was not necessary. Setup strengths were very even and win ratio was pretty balanced.

Not sure what else needs to be said about pubs that hasn't already. I, so far, strictly play in them but prefer ranked as the saves allow for Citizens, but the people that play seem ok with them. Pubs are just the average people, and the average people in any medium have tunnel vision that doesn't notice the full art of the experience.

[Cryptonic]

people see no gf, sheriff, or dr and leave =(

[Chane]

people see no gf, sheriff, or dr and leave =(

but if they are sheriff or doc they leave aswel. cause fuck logic.

[Cryptonic]

but if they are sheriff or doc they leave aswel. cause fuck logic.

Yea, that's pretty depressing lol

[Bruno]

idk why you ask to discuss. you wrote the word 'pub'
'nough said
/close thread

...

There is so much fail in this sentence.

Are YOU a pub?

[Ash]

why do u ask us?
OP, go interview a random pub from ur game and quote/screenshot what he says.

[Damus_Graves]

Your save is fine. As long as killing neutrals are not invulnerable at night, Arson targets know they are doused, sheriff can not detect arson and your save is maximized at 3-4 citizens

[Chane]

Your save is fine. As long as killing neutrals are not invulnerable at night, Arson targets know they are doused, sheriff can not detect arson and your save is maximized at 3-4 citizens

its exactly like that. 2 people starting yelling because arson was not invul. it was really funny.

[Slaol]

I also had a save that had Mafia, Mass Murderer, and a neutral evil that excluded MM, but would be vulnerable even if it got SK/Arson. Apparently having a neutral evil that was guaranteed to be vulnerable is flawed if it happens into SK/Arson