Chane's Suggested Achievement list

[Chane]

welcome to: =-=Chane's Achievement Suggestion Compendium=-=

or CASC for short.

the goal of this thread is to list not only achievements I came up with but also the best achievements the community can think of.

Achievement counter: 92

=-=Exceptional play=-=

-Opening Campaign (75) win a game as Mayor revealing yourself day1
-Rampage (155) as veteran kill 5 people who visit you during the night using one of your alerts.
-living on the edge (150) as Serial Killer survive jail/trial/night attack and win in the end. each of these most happen in the same game and this can be achieved without night immunity by getting healed.
-First Aid (150) as doctor heal 4 people during the nighttime after they have been attacked.
-Mandate of peace (200) Heal at least 4 town people without ever targeting maffia or natural killing roles. you have to successfully heal the 4 targets from an attack.
-puppet master (175) as witch control a killer/roleblocker/investigative/conversion/'heal or defend' during the same game.
-Wicked Sick (175) as MassMurderer kill 6 people during the same night
-Professionals have standards (75) as vigilante/jailor use all 3 shots/executions to kill evil roles. ~kyle1234
-Disturbing the Dead (75) as jester annoy 4 people that die during night time in a row in the same game and die by getting lynched during the day. ~Trinity
-suspicious visitors (75) as veteran cause the death of a jester, cult and witch during the same night. ~Damus_Graves
-Mason Republic (250) win the game as mason or mason leader with 1 ML and at least 2 other masons left alive. only masons and the ML can be alive for the achievement to count.
-Red October (175) win as last mafia member while being alone in the mafia for at least 5 days ~TRINITY
-Efficiency (50) as doctor heal a bodyguard that successfully defended a sheriff/investigator/mayor ~Damus_Graves
-the black sheep (75) as jester in a game with at least 5 lynches excluding your own exclusively choose the option that the minority choose inno/guit (abstain is excluded from this achievement) and get hung as 6th lynch or later
-Armageddon (250) with at least 2 arsonists in the game burn a minimum of 10 people during one night
-Beyond Godlike (250) as MassMurderer kill at least 10 people during 1 game
-GraveKeeper (175) as coroner perform 9 successful autopsy
-Once Upon a Time (225) As a Coroner, autopsy the Janitor to find the Godfather. Autopsy the Godfather to find the Serial Killer and win the Game. ~Damus_Graves
-Court Murder (350) as godfather win a game where 8 of your attacks failed and you are alone for at least 5 days
-Not on my Watch (175) as bodyguard fight of and kill 3 evil killing roles
-Cover-up (175) as killing mafia kill an invigator/sheriff whom has checked atleast 3 mafia members and clean him
-Paladin (50) as Mason Leader use all your recruiting on citizens without failing
-Licking Wounds (50) as mafioso kill the doctor who saved you from death during that night

=-=Meta=-=
-The Switzerland Problem (250) see a town composed of only the following and atleast one of these roles: Amnesiac, Survivor, Jester, Executioner, SK/Arson/MM, Witch
-follow ze herd (75) during a game with at least 5 lynches choose the option inno/guit/abstain that the majority of town chooses without ever choosing a minority vote.
-Blind faith (50) win a game as town without investigative roles at your disposal ~TRINITY
-Deduction (150) win a game as town without killing or protective roles at your disposal ~TRINITY
-Executioners Axe (2000) during your executioner games have all roles be your target and see them lynched (impossible yet to fun not to put here) ~TRINITY
-Militia (50) witness a game in which 3 or more amnesiac remember a killing role ~TRINITY
-Superstition (130) win the game on the 13th day. ~TRINITY
-Time well spend (50) play out 50 games of mafia
-Getting the hang of this (100) play out 100 games of mafia
-Mafia addict (250) play out 250 games of mafia
-Clocked (500) play out 500 games of mafia
-Asylum (1000) play out 1000 games of mafia
-Victory! (10) win 10 games of mafia
-Learning the ropes (25) win 25 games of mafia
-Climbing the ladder (50) win 50 games of mafia
-Close to the top (100) win 100 games of mafia
-On top of the game (250) win 250 games of mafia
-Grandmaster (500) win 500 games of mafia
-Chainsaw Massacre (75) win a game as MassMurderer

=-=Unorthodox play=-=

-Break-in (75) as godfather escape jail and have your mafia kill the jailor in any way during that same night.
-Order (66) as witch consume all the vigi's kils by controlling him. (minimum of 2) ~Gzz
-Jackass (75) win a game as citizen without using vest.
-Hippie (125) can't we all just get along? win a game as serial killer without killing anybody. this does NOT exclude roleblockers.
-Soul buddies (200) win a game as survivor/amnesiac/witch/executioner together with another person with the aforementioned role. this does only count if you both get the surv/amne/witch/exe wins ending.
-Hangman (225) see your target (a jester) get hung during the day as executioner and see executioner or jester win ending. both the jester and the executioner will get the achievement.
-obey your master (75) as witch save yourself from night time death by making a doctor or BodyGuard visit you ~tiloup1441
-Fireworks (100) as arsonist on the night of your recruitment into the cult burn a minimum of 3 people without burning a single cult member. ~Damus_Graves
-Insane Asylum (150) be the last one standing as a jester ~Harakazu
-Clean swipe (75) as janitor use all your cleanings to clean fellow mafia members. minimum of 2 ~TRINITY
-United we stand (333) as cult recruit: witch, survivor, amnesiac, jester, executioner during the same game and win. ~Damus_Graves
-Judge of Death (200) as Amnesiac remember you where citizen and win a tie with the mafia for town the following day. ~Raptorblaze
-Phoenix (200) in a game an arsonist must die, an amnesiac must remember the arsonist and he must die, then a second amnesiac must remember arsonist and win the game. all arsonists get the achievement and all 3 of them must have at least burned 1 person.
-Tie breaker (75) as Survivor lynch the last town/mafia together with the last town/mafia member during a 1v1v1 survivor vs town vs mafia.
-Oath (50) as witch convert yourself into the cult
-Plan B (25) as executioner become a jester and get yourself lynched


=-=Something Funny Happend=-=

-Sherlock Holmes (175) as Detective follow the godfather / a serial killer n1 and see him get lynched the next day
-third degree burns (200) as arsonist burn the 3 members of the mafia without killing a town role during this burn.
-an Eye for an Eye (100) as Vigilante/Mafioso shoot a Vigilante/Mafioso (depending on your role) while he shoots you in the same night
-Overdose (25) kill a target that has been attacked and healed. you being the second attacker overriding the heal
-Overkill (75) survive an SK/Maffia/Vigi kill during the same night. can be done by having night immunity or being jailed.
-Curse of Guilt (25) survive the Jesters Curse by being healed ~Gzz
-Scapegoat(225) get trialed 6 times during a game and survive to the end.
-Ayee HoJoJo (66) as amnesiac get converted into the cult the night you remember you are cult. ~Gzz
-the light of dawn (100) get shot by the mafia, stabbed by the serial killer, burned by the arsonist and annoyed by the jester during the same night
-SIlence (25) as blackmailer silence yourself thought a busdriver or a witch.
-rock, paper, Chainsaw (25) as MM visit the same target as another MM and survive. ~LeaD
-Jokes on you (25) as a jester annoy yourself at night. this can be achieved thought a witch or bus driver redirecting your actions. ~TRINITY
-Lost (150) get swapped 3 times during the same night. ~Gzz
-Vanguard (225) as godfather without immunity shoot somebody who is protected by a bodyguard, the bodyguard must be healed by a doctor and survive the night whilst the godfather must be healed by a second doctor and survive as well resulting in nobody dying in these set of events. ~Cryptonic/bunny
--Jestonist (666) as jester get lynched and see an arsonist die by your curse the next night, that arsonist must have burned atleast 3 people and the jester must win the game.
-I C dead people (125) as lookout watch over a person that has over 7 visitors and survive.
-Running in circles (50) as detective follow another detective while he follows you
-Post mortum (90) be killed by 2 serial killers at the same time
-The Underworld (200) see 6 cultist in the graveyard.
-Beyond the grave (125) as coroner survive a killing spree at your house by being targeted onto a living person by a witch
-007 (10) As Spy, get roleblocked. ~Cryptonic
-Double Judgement(125) be jailed by 2 jailers at once and convince them to let you go.
-Corrupt Authority (150) as MasonLeader smite a mayor who has been converted into the cult, the mayor must have not lost his votes in the cult for the achievement to count.
-Paradox (25) as escort, block yourself. this can be achieved though witches and busdrivers
-Buring Saw (150) have a MM kill 2+ people and as arsonist burn those people + the MM during the night of the spree
-Blazer (25) as arsonist burn all the remaining towns people alive
-Building Religion(50) as citizen get converted to cult and mason during the same night
-Saw (50) survive a killing spree at your house but die to another killing spree at your targets house
-triple lock (75) be jailed by 3 jailors during the same night and convince them to let you go
-14th sense (25) be put on trial and have 14 people vote either guilty or innocent
-Hurricane (125) see an Armageddon hit the town
-Dreamstate (50) As a Citizen use your vest and get recruited by the masons on the same night you get attacked by a disguiser.
-Self Sustain (25) as doctor heal yourself
-Cross Roads (75) as executioner be converted into a cultist the night you would otherwise become a jester
-One way road (100) As a bus driver, run over another bus driver, and get run over yourself.
-Gun over Mace (50) as cultist have a bodyguard protect you from the MasonLeaders kill



all achievements and the content within them are subject to change.
this topic will hopefully provide a better quality list then my previous topic and I hope to receive some good suggestions (gzz) and/or words of wisdom (unterscheiden)

please keep in mind that at this point in time this is a list I will compile as a suggestion in the MD forum.
this list is coppied and put into R&D, no information will be shared from there on but be aware that if I select an achievement onto this list it might be submitted

Credits will be given to those who suggest achievements or give the groundwork for them. if anybody decides to take any content to R&D for serious consideration and discussion you will be listed bellow if you want.

a ~(name) indicates an achievement is by or based upon a suggestion by a member. if this tag is not present it is an achievement I came up with.

Format for suggesting achievements:

-<Name> (+points) < Criteria for the achievement to be awarded and details> ~<credit in thread>

Example:
-Jokes on you (25) as a jester annoy yourself at night. this can be achieved thought a witch or bus driver redirecting your actions. ~TRINITY

<(colored) name>
<Award>
<Creteria>
<Details>
<~Credits>

Have a nice day. =)

Suggestion Library:


-Disturbing the Dead (75) as jester annoy 4 people that die during night time in a row in the same game and die by getting lynched during the day.
-Blind faith (50) win a game as town without investigative roles at your disposal
-Deduction (150) win a game as town without killing or protective roles at your disposal
-Locked away (50) as jailor jail another jailor and save him from getting killed that night
-Clean swipe (75) as janitor use all your cleanings to clean fellow mafia members. minimum of 2
-Executioners Axe (2000) during your executioner games have all roles be your target and see them lynched (impossible yet to fun not to put here)
-Jokes on you (25) as a jester annoy yourself at night. this can be achieved thought a witch or bus driver redirecting your actions.
-Militia (50) witness a game in which 3 or more amnesiac remember a killing role
-Red October (175) win as last mafia member while being alone in the mafia for at least 5 days
-Superstition (130) win the game on the 13th day.

-Fireworks (100) as arsonist on the night of your recruitment into the cult burn a minimum of 3 people without burning a single cult member.
-brief encounters (25) as citizen get witched onto a veteran and attacked during the same night and survive to win the game with town.
-suspicious visitors (75) as veteran cause the death of a jester, cult and witch during the same night.
-United we stand (333) as cult recruit: witch, survivor, amnesiac, jester, executioner during the same game and win.
-Efficiency (50) as doctor heal a bodyguard that successfully defended a sheriff/investigator/mayor
-Once Upon a Time (225) As a Coroner, autopsy the Janitor to find the Godfather. Autopsy the Godfather to find the Serial Killer and win the Game.

-Curse of Guilt (25) survive the Jesters Curse by being healed
-Lost (150) get swapped 3 times during the same night.
-Order (66)as witch consume all the vigi's kils by controlling him. (minimum of 2)
-Ayee HoJoJo (66) as amnesiac get converted into the cult the night you remember you are cult.


-rock, paper, Chainsaw (25) as MM visit the same target as another MM and survive.
-Forgotten tales (300) start the game off as amnesiac, remember you where a citizen, be recruited to become mason and take the mason leaders position when he perishes. amne > civ > mason > ML and WIN the game with town.

-obey your master (75) as witch save yourself from night time death by making a doctor or BodyGuard visit you
-Marionette (75) as witch get your mind control direct by a busdriver in such a way that you control yourself going to yourself.

[Cryptonic]

-puppet master (175) as witch control a killer/roleblocker/investigative/conversion/heal or defend during the same game.

Seems like a lot of points for something that is almost guarenteed to happen as witch.

[tiloup1441]

-puppet master (175) as witch control a killer/roleblocker/investigative/conversion/heal or defend during the same game.

Seems like a lot of points for something that is almost guarenteed to happen as witch.
I think he meant do do all his actions in the same game

[Chane]

I think he meant do do all his actions in the same game

he understood that but its a fair point to say it grants to many points. changed it to (75). thanks for the feedback.

[Cryptonic]

Oh, I didn't know it was doing all of them, actually. lmao, makes more sense now.

[EliteMarine]

I think he meant do do all his actions in the same game

If he meant all, he would of used and instead of or in the description.

[tiloup1441]

If he meant all, he would of used and instead of or in the description.

No because by or, he means killer/roleblocker/investigative/conversion/'heal OR defend', that means you have to control a killer, a rber, a investigative, a conversion (cult/ml) and a doctor or a bodyguard in the same game, well thats would make sense for a 200 pts achiev

[Raptorblaze]

welcome to my list of Achievement suggestions.
the goal of this thread is to list not only achievements I came up with but also the best achievements the community can think of.

the achievements below are the ones we will start of with, I will add more when I come up with them and if I receive any good suggestions and/or groundwork for possibly awesome achievements.

=-General Achievements-=
-Sherlock Holmes (175) as detective follow the Godfather n1 and see him get lynched during the next day.
like
-Opening Campaign (75) win a game as Mayor revealing yourself day1
like
-third degree burns (200) as arsonist burn the 3 members of the mafia without killing a town role during this burn.
like
-an Eye for an Eye (100) as Vigilante/Mafioso shoot a Vigilante/Mafioso (depending on your role) while he shoots you in the same night
like
-Rampage (155) as veteran kill 5 people who visit you during the night using one of your alerts.
like though I believe something like this was already suggested
-living on the edge (150) as Serial Killer survive jail/trial/night attack and win in the end. each of these most happen in the same game and this can be achieved without night immunity by getting healed.
like
-Break-in (75) as godfather escape jail and have your mafia kill the jailor in any way during that same night.
like, though only possible if -target stays the way it is I think? A wee bit confused on this one.
-for the greater good (50) as Bus Driver swap yourself and a town member who is attacked that night, concluding in your death.
like this one, a lot.
-Overdose (25) kill a target that has been attacked and healed. you being the second attacker overriding the heal
like, though I don't think the name is entirely appropriate for it.
-Overkill (75) survive an SK/Maffia/Vigi kill during the same night. can be done by having night immunity or being jailed.
This would be hilarious :D
Curse of Guilt (25) survive the Jesters Curse by being healed
like
Order (66)as witch consume all the vigi's kils by controlling him. (minimum of 2)
like
Scapegoat(225) get trialed 6 times during a game and survive to the end.
like, though I don't feel like the name is entirely fitting
Jackass (75) win a game as citizen without using vest.
like, if it requires that he is still alive at the end, otherwise the points would have to be like 25 because of how easy it is.
Ayee HoJoJo (66) as amnesiac get converted into the cult the night you remember you are cult.
lol
the light of dawn (100) get shot by the mafia, stabbed by the serial killer, burned by the arsonist and annoyed by the jester during the same night
like
-First Aid (150) as doctor heal 4 people during the nighttime after they have been attacked.
like
-Mandate of peace (200) Heal at least 4 town people without ever targeting maffia or natural killing roles. you have to successfully heal the 4 targets from an attack.
like
-Hippie (125) can't we all just get along? win a game as serial killer without killing anybody. this does NOT exclude roleblockers.
like
-Soul buddies (200) win a game as survivor/amnesiac/witch/executioner together with another person with the aforementioned role. this does only count if you both get the surv/amne/witch/exe wins ending.
like
-puppet master (75) as witch control a killer/roleblocker/investigative/conversion/heal or defend during the same game.
like, now that someone clarified.
-SIlence (25) as blackmailer silence yourself thought a busdriver or a witch.
like
-Hangman (225) see your target (a jester) get hung during the day as executioner and see executioner or jester win ending.
like, honestly both of them should get the achieve considering how rare this is
-follow ze herd (125) during a game with atleast 5 lynches choose the option inno/guit/abstain that the majority of town chooses without ever choosing a minority vote.
like, reduce points to 75 imo
-the black sheep (125) as jester in a game with atleast 5 lynches excluding your own exclusively choose the option that the minority choose inno/guit (abstain is excluded from this achievement) and get hung as 6th lynch or later
like, same as above


There's my feedback, actually a fairly good batch of ideas.

[tiloup1441]

Another witch achievment worth approx 75 pts could be to save yourself using a BG

[LeaD]

Seems like my msg didnt get sent
Rock, Paper, Scissors
Kill another MM as MM.
worth 25 or 50 points

[Chane]

There's my feedback, actually a fairly good batch of ideas.

tx for the feedback! ill look into improving the ones you pointed out and reducing the herd achievements to 75 points.


Seems like my msg didnt get sent
Rock, Paper, Scissors
Kill another MM as MM.
worth 25 or 50 points

I have not played a single game with MM yet because I am on vacation atm, but ill do some research on it and add it in.


Another witch achievment worth approx 75 pts could be to save yourself using a BG

or doc. gonna be added to the list

[LeaD]

when 2 MMs visit the same person only of the 2 dies (unless healed)

[Chane]

EDIT: rock, paper, scissors added! tx for the clarification.

update:
"-obey your master" added. thank you tiloup1441
"rock, paper, scissors" rejected. reason: strives again rolecard, MM's win with other MM's. thought if people like it iill add it ;). (suicide hot-line cough cough)
"follow ze herd and the black sheep" point value is reduced to (75) (funfact: my math teacher is called ms.sheep. lets just say it inspired me)
clarified "puppet master" by a tad.

[tiloup1441]

Btw put it back to atleast 150 points (the puppet master), because its a bit hard to control all those roles

[Unentschieden]

Let me first repeat my point from the last thread: Achievements are incentives and rewards. Especially in this game achievements are more valuable than actually winning the match. Thats why I argue that they need to be looked at more in what they incentivise people to do instead of "look something funny/amazing happend".
Thankfully the advent advent of ranked games diminishes the impact of incentivising scewed saves.

These are purely my opinion!




=-General Achievements-=
-Sherlock Holmes (175) as detective follow the Godfather n1 and see him get lynched during the next day.
Best case scenario for the class, ok.
-Opening Campaign (75) win a game as Mayor revealing yourself day1
Is that EVER a good idea outside of trying to get this achievement? Do we really want a period of mayorinstantreveals until all that care got the achievement?
-third degree burns (200) as arsonist burn the 3 members of the mafia without killing a town role during this burn.
The Arsonist is neutral, acting pro-town means he sabotages himself.
-an Eye for an Eye (100) as Vigilante/Mafioso shoot a Vigilante/Mafioso (depending on your role) while he shoots you in the same night
"A funny thing happend." Superrandom, might make the vigi needlessly claim but otherwise ok.
-Rampage (155) as veteran kill 5 people who visit you during the night using one of your alerts.
Wannabe MM. Rememeber that the MM is evil and so are vets that try to get this one
-living on the edge (150) as Serial Killer survive jail/trial/night attack and win in the end. each of these most happen in the same game and this can be achieved without night immunity by getting healed.
This is the "you were in a game where everyone else was stupid" achievement.
-Break-in (75) as godfather escape jail and have your mafia kill the jailor in any way during that same night.
Neat. Too bad that killing the jailor doesn´t influence his execution but this is flavourfull even though the mechanics don´t add up like that.
-for the greater good (50) as Bus Driver swap yourself and a town member who is attacked that night, concluding in your death.
Targeting yourself is a nonstandart option for the BD, on top of that License to kill is this but better already.
-Overdose (25) kill a target that has been attacked and healed. you being the second attacker overriding the heal
Does that actually work? And how is the "order" if only the 2nd kill gets the cheevo?
-Overkill (75) survive an SK/Maffia/Vigi kill during the same night. can be done by having night immunity or being jailed.
So you want to pull killpriority of all 3 factions at once? Well since you are supposed to surive ok I guess.
Curse of Guilt (25) survive the Jesters Curse by being healed ~Gzz
Identify the jester, get him lynched intentionally and beg for doc regardless of your role...
Order (66)as witch consume all the vigi's kils by controlling him. (minimum of 2)
Ok but needlessly specific. How about just making someone kill someone else on the same "side"
Scapegoat(225) get trialed 6 times during a game and survive to the end.
Jesters are bad enough!
Jackass (75) win a game as citizen without using vest.
Meh but ok. No one actually plays citizens except for achievements anyway.
Ayee HoJoJo (66) as amnesiac get converted into the cult the night you remember you are cult.
"A funny thing happend." but ok.
the light of dawn (100) get shot by the mafia, stabbed by the serial killer, burned by the arsonist and annoyed by the jester during the same night
In practice overkill but worse.
-First Aid (150) as doctor heal 4 people during the nighttime after they have been attacked.
Fine
-Mandate of peace (200) Heal at least 4 town people without ever targeting maffia or natural killing roles. you have to successfully heal the 4 targets from an attack.
Fine
-Hippie (125) can't we all just get along? win a game as serial killer without killing anybody. this does NOT exclude roleblockers.
Sabotaging yourself is bad but at least the sk is alone.
-Soul buddies (200) win a game as survivor/amnesiac/witch/executioner together with another person with the aforementioned role. this does only count if you both get the surv/amne/witch/exe wins ending.
-puppet master (175) as witch control a killer/roleblocker/investigative/conversion/'heal or defend' during the same game.
I can´t really tell the difference between this and a "normal" match as a witch.
-SIlence (25) as blackmailer silence yourself thought a busdriver or a witch.
"A funny thing happend"
-Hangman (225) see your target (a jester) get hung during the day as executioner and see executioner or jester win ending. both the jester and the executioner will get the achievement.
Is it even mechanically allowed for the jester to be an exetarget?
-follow ze herd (75) during a game with atleast 5 lynches choose the option inno/guit/abstain that the majority of town chooses without ever choosing a minority vote.
You want to REWARD Bandwagoning!?!
-the black sheep (75) as jester in a game with atleast 5 lynches excluding your own exclusively choose the option that the minority choose inno/guit (abstain is excluded from this achievement) and get hung as 6th lynch or later
-Wicked Sick (175) as MassMurderer kill 6 people during the same night
"Rampage" but the right role this time.
-obey your master (75) as witch save yourself from night time death by making a doctor or BodyGuard visit you ~tiloup1441
Neat.
-rock, paper, scissors (25) as MM visit the same target as another MM and survive. ~LeaD
2 MMs in one game requires a scewed save
-knife beats paper (13) die as MM while 2 MM's visit the same target (this achievement is a sub)
2 MMs in one game?...
-Professionals have standards (75) as vigilante/jailor use all 3 shots/executions to kill evil roles. ~kyle1234
"Do your job" Good but the real question is why we don´t have MORE like these for all roles?

[Gzz]

Lolz , all my archi are on the edge of the "stupid archiviment "

[LeaD]

EDIT: rock, paper, scissors added! tx for the clarification.

update:
"-obey your master" added. thank you tiloup1441
"rock, paper, scissors" rejected. reason: strives again rolecard, MM's win with other MM's. thought if people like it iill add it ;). (suicide hot-line cough cough)
"follow ze herd and the black sheep" point value is reduced to (75) (funfact: my math teacher is called ms.sheep. lets just say it inspired me)
clarified "puppet master" by a tad.

Mission Failed (As Maf kill another maf) is kinda the same thing, not like MM's know who the other MM will visit if there are indeed 2.

[Xen]

-Overkill (75) survive an SK/Maffia/Vigi kill during the same night. can be done by having night immunity or being jailed.[/QUOTE]

This happened to me when I was Jester before. No joke. Jailor spared me when I claimed mayor. I was lynched the next day as well.

Some of these achievements are really great ideas.

++++++++++++!

[AppleyNO]

I should put my idea here so no one takes it (Although inspired by Cryptonic)
Really!?!?!? - As an Amnesiac, remember you were a Citizen, get converted to a Mason, become a Mason Leader, then have the disguiser disguise as you. (+100)

[Chane]

I should put my idea here so no one takes it (Although inspired by Cryptonic)
Really!?!?!? - As an Amnesiac, remember you were a Citizen, get converted to a Mason, become a Mason Leader, then have the disguiser disguise as you. (+100)

-the disquiser because otherwise peiple will beg for dis to take them.

Ill think about adding it when I get to my laptop :) byw I think you ment inspired by Xen ;)

[Chane]

Let me first repeat my point from the last thread: Achievements are incentives and rewards. Especially in this game achievements are more valuable than actually winning the match. Thats why I argue that they need to be looked at more in what they incentivise people to do instead of "look something funny/amazing happend".
Thankfully the advent advent of ranked games diminishes the impact of incentivising scewed saves.

These are purely my opinion!

you have some fair points but keep 2 things in mind.
1: this is a LIST. meaning that not everything within the list is perfect
2: imo achievements are there for these things:

>you played your role very good
>your predicted something perfectly
>something funny happened
> unorthodox play style

third degree burns does not make arso dismantle himself because he is against the mafia to. with them out the way a non-invul arson is much saver.
I actually use the tactic with the SK A LOT. your not dismantling yourself at all because you keep the fact that sk is in the game secret to the bitter end.

lets sum up mafia achievements:

you did your role really good: 6 (excluding the role alone wins and happily ever after because that one requires luck and nothing more.)
something funny happened: 9
something negative happened: 5
achieved by doing something not optimal for your role: 3

just my opinion as well. the average pub just wants achievements because their fun.

[LeaD]

you have some fair points but keep 2 things in mind.
1: These are suggestions meaning that not everything within the list is perfect
2: imo achievements are there for these things:

>you played your role very good
>your predicted something perfectly
>something funny happened
> unorthodox play style

third degree burns does not make arso dismantle himself because he is against the mafia to. with them out the way a non-invul arson is much saver.
I actually use the tactic with the SK A LOT. your not dismantling yourself at all because you keep the fact that sk is in the game secret to the bitter end.

lets sum up mafia achievements:

you did your role really good: 6 (excluding the role alone wins and happily ever after because that one requires luck and nothing more.)
something funny happened: 9
something negative happened: 5
achieved by doing something not optimal for your role: 3

just my opinion as well. the average pub just wants achievements because their fun.

fixed

[Chane]

fixed

Yeh thats what I ment to say lol

[LeaD]

yoU're welcome :p

[AppleyNO]

Ill think about adding it when I get to my laptop :) byw I think you ment inspired by Xen ;)
nah, he suggested citizen -> Mason -> Mason Leader somewhere and I kind of took that

:P

[LeaD]

oh i have a new idea. This one's more on the specific and extremely rare side though
Careerman or Turncoat or Faceless Man (worth between 100-200 points, i'd say 200 by current standards, since it is so f..ing rare)
Change your role 3 times in 1 game
This is only possible if you
Spawn as Amnesiac
Have a Citizen and ML in game
have the citizen die
take over as cit
get masoned
ML dies
become ML

note : i've never seen this before (amne -> cit -> mason -> ML)
Well if something like a Psychiatrist would get implemented (change back anybody who changed their roles previously) citizens who get masoned or culted can be reverted aswell or amnesiacs can be reverted to amnesiacs.

[Gzz]

Are You refer to my old suggested role , LeaD ? :-P
Anyway , others my idea :
The broker doors : as mm visit all people's house and don' t archive any kills .
Barbecue : as arso , brun a people visited by mm
Scream in the night : as witch get killed by a killing role who you controlled

[LeaD]

both of my roles are from EM although the psychiatrist is a bit tweaked from Shrink

[Chane]

Ill add yours lead.

Gzz every achievement listed there involves epic fail or killing yourself because the achievement is worth more then the win

[LeaD]

Well the witch one would never get implemented since it goes against your own goal (possible gamethrowing is a big nono)

[TRINITY]

Sleep well(+25) - Survive to the end as Veteran without staying on alert.
Necro tour(+40) - Annoy four people the same night they die in a single game.

[Chane]

Well the witch one would never get implemented since it goes against your own goal (possible gamethrowing is a big nono)
indeed as it basically screams: hey, if you kill yourself instead of playing you role card you get more points then winning and a shinny badge.


Sleep well(+25) - Survive to the end as Veteran without staying on alert.
Necro tour(+40) - Annoy four people the same night they die in a single game.

I do not like sleep well as it promotes vete's that lose you the game because they hope for the achievement but necro tour seems fun indeed.

[creedkingsx]

I think Necro Tour should be more points.
That'd be hard to do o.o

[Damus_Graves]

Fireworks (+25)
As an Arsonist, get converted into the cult the night you burn and hit no cultists

[tiloup1441]

Mind=blown : as a witch control yourself while targeting yourself. (bus driver)

[Chane]

update 0:00 24-8-2012 CET +1


-Forgotten tales (300) start the game off as amnesiac, remember you where a citizen, be recruited to become mason and take the mason leaders position when he perishes. amne > civ > mason > ML and WIN the game with town. ~LeaD
-Disturbing the Dead (75) as jester annoy 4 people that die during night time in a row in the same game and die by getting lynched during the day. ~Trinity
-Fireworks (100) as arsonist on the night of your recruitment into the cult burn a minimum of 3 people without burning a single cult member. ~Damus_Graves
-Marionette (75) as witch get your mind control direct by a busdriver in such a way that you control yourself going to yourself. ~Tiloup1440

4 new achievements fresh from the press. you might want to read marionette twice. or 3 times for that matter.

also I think Forgotten tales is the best achievement on the list by far =)

thanks for the suggestions! and as always: have nice day

[TRINITY]

Unplugged(+30) - Blackmail incognito Mayor for at least 3 days before seeing him dead.
Return to sender(+60) - While playing as a roleblocker, have your block averted 3 times in a single game.
In the spotlight(+45) - Be jailed by three jailors simultaneously.
Magnetic personality(+70) - Be visited by at least four players for three consecutive nights.
All shall be revealed(+5) - Hear a private message.
Rush(+50) - Win a town game, where evil roles are killed each day and every night(starting from day2/night2).
Firm grip(+10) - Do not be repicked in ten consecutive games as host.
Isolated(+75) - As a lone cultist, fail to recruit anyone(not attempting does not count towards this) and win the game.

[Chane]

Unplugged(+30) - Blackmail incognito Mayor for at least 3 days before seeing him dead.
Return to sender(+60) - While playing as a roleblocker, have your block averted 3 times in a single game.
In the spotlight(+45) - Be jailed by three jailors simultaneously.
Magnetic personality(+70) - Be visited by at least four players for three consecutive nights.
All shall be revealed(+5) - Hear a private message.
Rush(+50) - Win a town game, where evil roles are killed each day and every night(starting from day2/night2).
Firm grip(+10) - Do not be repicked in ten consecutive games as host.
Isolated(+75) - As a lone cultist, fail to recruit anyone(not attempting does not count towards this) and win the game.

the once I like are: unplugged, in the spotlight, magnetic personality and Isolated

ill be looking into adding achievements to the list based upon these.

[Gingerape]

"please keep in mind that at this point in time this is a list I will compile as a suggestion in the MD forum.
if anybody with R&D access sees an achievement they deem good and if you want to copy this list or use any content that is listed in the list above feel free to do so. "

Hey i'm going to take some of these achievements and copy them over to R+D later tonight. just so you know. I'll credit you with all the submissions I choose.

[Chane]

"please keep in mind that at this point in time this is a list I will compile as a suggestion in the MD forum.
if anybody with R&D access sees an achievement they deem good and if you want to copy this list or use any content that is listed in the list above feel free to do so. "

Hey i'm going to take some of these achievements and copy them over to R+D later tonight. just so you know. I'll credit you with all the submissions I choose.

thats great to hear! you are credited for taking it to R&D if you want. I am going to sleep now (exactly 0:00 here in Italy) just tell if you want credit and your added down bellow.

[Sin]

welcome to my list of Achievement suggestions.
the goal of this thread is to list not only achievements I came up with but also the best achievements the community can think of.

the achievements below are the ones we will start of with, I will add more when I come up with them and if I receive any good suggestions and/or groundwork for possibly awesome achievements.

=-General Achievements-=
-Sherlock Holmes (175) as detective follow the Godfather n1 and see him get lynched during the next day.
-Opening Campaign (75) win a game as Mayor revealing yourself day1
-third degree burns (200) as arsonist burn the 3 members of the mafia without killing a town role during this burn.
-an Eye for an Eye (100) as Vigilante/Mafioso shoot a Vigilante/Mafioso (depending on your role) while he shoots you in the same night
-Rampage (155) as veteran kill 5 people who visit you during the night using one of your alerts.
-living on the edge (150) as Serial Killer survive jail/trial/night attack and win in the end. each of these most happen in the same game and this can be achieved without night immunity by getting healed.
-Break-in (75) as godfather escape jail and have your mafia kill the jailor in any way during that same night.
-for the greater good (50) as Bus Driver swap yourself and a town member who is attacked that night, concluding in your death.
-Overdose (25) kill a target that has been attacked and healed. you being the second attacker overriding the heal
-Overkill (75) survive an SK/Maffia/Vigi kill during the same night. can be done by having night immunity or being jailed.
Curse of Guilt (25) survive the Jesters Curse by being healed ~Gzz
Order (66)as witch consume all the vigi's kils by controlling him. (minimum of 2)
Scapegoat(225) get trialed 6 times during a game and survive to the end.
Jackass (75) win a game as citizen without using vest.
Ayee HoJoJo (66) as amnesiac get converted into the cult the night you remember you are cult.
the light of dawn (100) get shot by the mafia, stabbed by the serial killer, burned by the arsonist and annoyed by the jester during the same night
-First Aid (150) as doctor heal 4 people during the nighttime after they have been attacked.
-Mandate of peace (200) Heal at least 4 town people without ever targeting maffia or natural killing roles. you have to successfully heal the 4 targets from an attack.
-Hippie (125) can't we all just get along? win a game as serial killer without killing anybody. this does NOT exclude roleblockers.
-Soul buddies (200) win a game as survivor/amnesiac/witch/executioner together with another person with the aforementioned role. this does only count if you both get the surv/amne/witch/exe wins ending.
-puppet master (175) as witch control a killer/roleblocker/investigative/conversion/'heal or defend' during the same game.
-SIlence (25) as blackmailer silence yourself thought a busdriver or a witch.
-Hangman (225) see your target (a jester) get hung during the day as executioner and see executioner or jester win ending. both the jester and the executioner will get the achievement.
-follow ze herd (75) during a game with atleast 5 lynches choose the option inno/guit/abstain that the majority of town chooses without ever choosing a minority vote.
-the black sheep (75) as jester in a game with atleast 5 lynches excluding your own exclusively choose the option that the minority choose inno/guit (abstain is excluded from this achievement) and get hung as 6th lynch or later
-Wicked Sick (175) as MassMurderer kill 6 people during the same night
-obey your master (75) as witch save yourself from night time death by making a doctor or BodyGuard visit you ~tiloup1441
-rock, paper, scissors (25) as MM visit the same target as another MM and survive. ~LeaD
-knife beats paper (13) die as MM while 2 MM's visit the same target (this achievement is a sub)
-Professionals have standards (75) as vigilante/jailor use all 3 shots/executions to kill evil roles. ~kyle1234
-Forgotten tales (300) start the game off as amnesiac, remember you where a citizen, be recruited to become mason and take the mason leaders position when he perishes. amne > civ > mason > ML and WIN the game with town. ~LeaD
-Disturbing the Dead (75) as jester annoy 4 people that die during night time in a row in the same game and die by getting lynched during the day. ~Trinity
-Fireworks (100) as arsonist on the night of your recruitment into the cult burn a minimum of 3 people without burning a single cult member. ~Damus_Graves
-Marionette (75) as witch get your mind control direct by a busdriver in such a way that you control yourself going to yourself. ~Tiloup1440

Have a nice day. =)

Interesting :D

So :
-Sherlock Holmes (175)
Good, but a bit too much points for something random that can likely happen (especially in custom setups without citizen...). 100 points would be enough.

-Opening Campaign (75) win a game as Mayor revealing yourself day1
Easy in ranked. Mayor can be healed, and PMs allowed (which all in all can be extremely powerful if Mayor is good). So 25 or 50 points.

-third degree burns (200) as arsonist burn the 3 members of the mafia without killing a town role during this burn.
I'd change it to "kill all three mafia members in one night", town or not, and I would change the name to something different (Evil vs. Evil ? Burning Hell ?). Also, 100 or 150 points.

-an Eye for an Eye (100) as Vigilante/Mafioso shoot a Vigilante/Mafioso (depending on your role) while he shoots you in the same night
This one would be worth more points IMO. 150 or 200. Mafiosi aren't always in setups, and usually don't survive being identified.

-Rampage (155) as veteran kill 5 people who visit you during the night using one of your alerts.
Good, but 150 would be enough (why 155 ?), and I would change the name - Party Rock in the House maybe ?

-Living on the edge (150) as Serial Killer survive jail/trial/night attack and win in the end. each of these most happen in the same game and this can be achieved without night immunity by getting healed.
Hard to program I think...Also, extremely hard to achieve (unlikely to fool all 3). Worth a lot more points than that IMO.

-Break-in (75) as godfather escape jail and have your mafia kill the jailor in any way during that same night.
-For the greater good (50) as Bus Driver swap yourself and a town member who is attacked that night, concluding in your death.
Often happens. 25 points would be enough. I would call the second one "The Transporter".

-Overdose (25) kill a target that has been attacked and healed. you being the second attacker overriding the heal
Good :D

-Overkill (75) survive an SK/Maffia/Vigi kill during the same night. can be done by having night immunity or being jailed.
The three are really unlikely to act on the same player...this looks a bit too random to be an achievement to me.

Curse of guilt (25) survive the Jesters Curse by being healed ~Gzz
Good. I would call it "Cutting the rope" though.

Order (66)as witch consume all the vigi's kils by controlling him. (minimum of 2)
Nice pun :D But very common if Witch finds vigi. 25 points max.

Scapegoat(225) get trialed 6 times during a game and survive to the end.
Good :D 200 maybe ? Also, Scapegoat wouldn't fit. Friends with the Judge maybe ?

Jackass (75) win a game as citizen without using vest.
No, this is too easy I think. 25 points or nothing.

Ayee HoJoJo (66) as amnesiac get converted into the cult the night you remember you are cult.
:D Good (Oyoyo ?). But 100 would be good I think. No reason to keep 66 here ^^

the light of dawn (100) get shot by the mafia, stabbed by the serial killer, burned by the arsonist and annoyed by the jester during the same night.
Most setups only have SK or Arsonist. So it's complicated to put an achievement depending on both roles I think.

-First Aid (150) as doctor heal 4 people during the nighttime after they have been attacked.
Good ! Emergency Room maybe ?

-Mandate of peace (200) Heal at least 4 town people without ever targeting maffia or natural killing roles. you have to successfully heal the 4 targets from an attack.
Redundant with te previous one, which is IMO better.

-Hippie (125) can't we all just get along? win a game as serial killer without killing anybody. this does NOT exclude roleblockers.
I love this one :D Works for arso too : "Lost my matches".

-Soul buddies (200) win a game as survivor/amnesiac/witch/executioner together with another person with the aforementioned role. this does only count if you both get the surv/amne/witch/exe wins ending.
Nah, getting one of the aforementioned wins is hard enough I think.

-puppet master (175) as witch control a killer/roleblocker/investigative/conversion/'heal or defend' during the same game.
Too complicated, also, depends too much on a lot of different roles.

-SIlence (25) as blackmailer silence yourself thought a busdriver or a witch.
Mute mode maybe ?

-Hangman (225) see your target (a jester) get hung during the day as executioner and see executioner or jester win ending. both the jester and the executioner will get the achievement.
Cf Soul Buddies. Too complicated to get the win.

-the black sheep (75) as jester in a game with atleast 5 lynches excluding your own exclusively choose the option that the minority choose inno/guit (abstain is excluded from this achievement) and get hung as 6th lynch or later.
A bit too complicated too...

-Wicked Sick (175) as MassMurderer kill 6 people during the same night
Nice. Texas Chainsaw Massacre ?

-obey your master (75) as witch save yourself from night time death by making a doctor or BodyGuard visit you ~tiloup1441
Yup !

-rock, paper, scissors (25) as MM visit the same target as another MM and survive. ~LeaD
Rock, paper, Chainsaw then.

-knife beats paper (13) die as MM while 2 MM's visit the same target (this achievement is a sub)
Well, both MM will die, no ? Freddy vs Jason maybe ?

-Professionals have standards (75) as vigilante/jailor use all 3 shots/executions to kill evil roles. ~kyle1234
Too much points, also jailors have 2 kills in ranked. 50 would be enough.

-Forgotten tales (300) start the game off as amnesiac, remember you where a citizen, be recruited to become mason and take the mason leaders position when he perishes. amne > civ > mason > ML and WIN the game with town. ~LeaD
Great :D Could be called "Elder Scrolls" :D

-Disturbing the Dead (75) as jester annoy 4 people that die during night time in a row in the same game and die by getting lynched during the day. ~Trinity
No need to get lynched no ? Only annoying 4 people that die would be good.

-Fireworks (100) as arsonist on the night of your recruitment into the cult burn a minimum of 3 people without burning a single cult member. ~Damus_Graves
Only works if Arso is not invu, so I don't think it is a good idea...

-Marionnette (75) as witch get your mind control direct by a busdriver in such a way that you control yourself going to yourself. ~Tiloup1440
Yo Dawg 2 ? ^^


I would add something like :
-The Reveal (50) Only Masons/Mason Leader are alive at the end of the game
-Traitor (75) As a Disguiser, disguise yourself in a fellow maf member thanks to a Bus Driver or a Witch

[Chane]

That's some great feedback right there.

I am at the pool atm but ill get at my. Laptop around 4:00 gmt +1

Then i'll improve and extend the list even futher.

[Damus_Graves]

For Fireworks being a bad idea due to having arson be not immune for conversion, not true, just have cult ignore immunity.

[Chane]

For Fireworks being a bad idea due to having arson be not immune for conversion, not true, just have cult ignore immunity.

Indeed, if either ofnthe options are on this can work

[Damus_Graves]

Here is another:

Bad Men: (+25)
In a mafia of three Mafioso, achieve a flawless win without any of your team getting put on trial

[Gzz]

cut , doble psost

[Gzz]

Before , Ayee hojojo should be called "Wololoo ... ayooo" like the phrase who the priestes of Age of Empires used for convert

[Chane]

Before thsi , Ayee hojojo should be called "Wololoo ... ayooo" like the phrase who the priestes of Age of Empires used for convert

It was meant to be exactly like the priest xd

I swear he says ajehojojo

[Damus_Graves]

Brief Encounters+(50):
As a Survivor, get witched onto a Veteran while someone attacks you and survive to win the game lynching both your attackers.

[Chane]

Brief Encounters+(50):
As a Survivor, get witched onto a Veteran while someone attacks you and survive to win the game lynching both your attackers.

-the lynch its a good idea and I will add it later ;)

[Damus_Graves]

Where there's one: +(25)
As a Veteran, cause the death of a Jester, Witch and Cultist on the same night

[Chane]

Where there's one: +(25)
As a Veteran, cause the death of a Jester, Witch and Cultist on the same night

Dam I like this one, I am gonna need to type a lot when I get to the hotel room =)

[Damus_Graves]

Thank you thank you.

Im here all week

[Chane]

Thank you thank you.

Im here all week

Damus your much like a cockroach, no matter how much you could get nuked you would not have a scratch.

Personal achievement get: topic is getting hot.

[Damus_Graves]

This one is from Harakazu:

Insane Asylum: (+150)

Be the last man standing as a jester

[Chane]

This one is from Harakazu:

Insane Asylum: (+150)

Be the last man standing as a jester

It would invoke counter rolecard, yetinteresting and unorthodox behavior.

Jesters these days are to focused on spamm and getting lynched asap, this will make them focus on the endgame where more points are to be gotten anyways. And for that reason I like it.

Reminder: I will edit the OP and add subtract and edit achievements in 4-5 hours from now

[Damus_Graves]

Suggestion:

Use Spoilers for each person's suggestion

[Chane]

Suggestion:

Use Spoilers for each person's suggestion
Incase more suggestions from that person are suggested and added to the list, yes

[Damus_Graves]

*Smiles innocently*

I highly Suggest spoiler tags

[Chane]

*Smiles innocently*

I highly Suggest spoiler tags

ill add them along with everything else in a couple of hours. I kinda ran out of time and I am going to find a restaurant first.

[TRINITY]

With my eyes shut(+30) - Win a town game without investigative roles at your disposal.
Through deduction(+30) - Win a town game without town killing roles at your disposal.
Brothers in arms(+25) - Jail a fellow jailor and prevent him from getting killed this night.
You'll never see us fall(+40) - As Janitor use all of your sanitizations to clean fellow mafia members.
Executioner's Axe(+125) - During your Executioner games, have all roles in game be your targets and see them executed.

[Chane]

With my eyes shut(+30) - Win a town game without investigative roles at your disposal.
Through deduction(+30) - Win a town game without town killing roles at your disposal.
Brothers in arms(+25) - Jail a fellow jailor and prevent him from getting killed this night.
You'll never see us fall(+40) - As Janitor use all of your sanitizations to clean fellow mafia members.
Executioner's Axe(+125) - During your Executioner games, have all roles in game be your targets and see them executed.
Imlike them all but it needs some more points imho. Executing every target in the game is damn hard

Btw sorry for the lack of updates I just didn't have enough time to get around doing it.

Probbably this evening gmt will be a big update

[Gzz]

You are stuck at the Eisarca where the owner are trying to sold you some bad wines ? XD

[Damus_Graves]

Doctorate(+50):
As a Doctor, heal two people, back to back nights.
EX: Player A - two nights in a row
Player B - the next two nights in a row

[Sin]

Executioner's Axe(+125) - During your Executioner games, have all roles in game be your targets and see them executed.

This would be worth 2000 points. You need to be Executioner, THEN you need to win as an Executioner (and not as a Jester), THEN you need to do it for every single role, including the unlynchables ones (Mayor for example).
Also, I don't think the data saved after a game includes the Executioner's target.

[Damus_Graves]

Executioner does not get targets role nor alignment.

He doesnt care about that silly stuff. It's also impossible imo

[TRINITY]

Core Contingency(+50) - Win a town game with all core roles making it to the end.
Jokes on you!(+25) - Annoy yourself(does not matter whether thanks to bd or witch).
Army Reserve(+50) - Witness a game where two or more Amnesiacs remember a weapon-associated role.
Relentless(+35) - Protect your target two times as Bodyguard.
We must split our paths(+35) - Witness a game where two or three Amnesiacs pick roles with diffirent alignment.

[Gzz]

Go to the light : ( + 100 )as doc save a citi form begin culted and in the same nigth who citi gets masoned
Boys , we have a traitor : ( + 55 ) as mafia kill spy n1
"Artists" colony : ( +100 ) as Mass Murdered win a join win with another mass murdered
Lost in town : ( +250 ) get spawpped 3 times in the same night
Cut the vocal ropes ! : ( +200 )blackmail a person killed by serial killer

[Damus_Graves]

Dat Fail: (+50)
As a Jailor, jail the Serial Killer and get hit by the Godfather.

Edit: changed

[TRINITY]

Isn't it impossible to jail after a lynch?

[Damus_Graves]

I edited my achievement suggestion

[Chane]

ok, * crunches fingers* its typing time.

[Damus_Graves]

Good luck

[Chane]

I will get typing once circlejerk stops pumping out funny stuff. I gotta have dat last word.

[Damus_Graves]

It wont ever happen..unless Yapyap bans blazer/bruno/creed

[Chane]

It wont ever happen..unless Yapyap bans all my smurfs

fix'd

I got 4 tabs open: edit OP, this page to answer any poop coming in the direction of my face, one circlejerk and one on the main page for the newsfeed.

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[Damus_Graves]

My Brothers Unite: (+50)
As a cultist, recruit a survivor, executioner/jester, and witch in one game

[Chane]

-brief encounters (25) as citizen get witched onto a veteran and attacked during the same night and survive to win the game with town. ~Damus_Graves
-suspicious visitors (75) as veteran cause the death of a jester, cult and witch during the same night. ~Damus_Graves
-Insane Asylum (150) be the last one standing as a jester ~Harakazu
-Blind faith (50) win a game as town without investigative roles at your disposal ~TRINITY
-Deduction (150) win a game as town without killing or protective roles at your disposal ~TRINITY
-Locked away (50) as jailor jail another jailor and save him from getting killed that night ~TRINITY
-Clean swipe (75) as janitor use all your cleanings to clean fellow mafia members. minimum of 2 ~TRINITY
-Executioners Axe (2000) during your executioner games have all roles be your target and see them lynched (impossible yet to fun not to put here) ~TRINITY
-Jokes on you (25) as a jester annoy yourself at night. this can be achieved thought a witch or bus driver redirecting your actions.
-Militia (50) witness a game in which 3 or more amnesiac remember a killing role
-Lost (150) get swapped 3 times during the same night.

added.

list of active submiters will be coming soon. in spoiler tags, with their submitions.
*damn you proper grammar

[Damus_Graves]

I think you missed a couple of my suggestions :>

[Chane]

I think you missed a couple of my suggestions :>

don't go insane just jet, look at the latest addition :>

[Gzz]

Dies Irae , Dies Lacrimosa illa ( +50 ) : as mason see cult win the game
It wasn' t a mine idea ( +100 ) : as survivor get killed in a spree killing or get in an alert caused by witch
The cannons never sleep ( +100 ) : as Mass Murdered , do a spree kill in a house were a vigilante shoot ot a visitor and a mafioso shoot to another
Hard mind (+25 ) : as veteran , kill the witch while you are on alert
Clean the ash (+100) : as janitor , hide a role of a person burned by arsonist
VIP ( +50 ) : get saved by doc and see bodyguard fought off another attacker
Garden of blood ( +100 ) : win as mass murdered

[Espozito]

Jackass - XD
For the greater good - Yeah, seems like I've done it)))
Professionals have standards - Be polite *BANG!* Be efficient *BANG* And plan to kill everyone you meet *BANG!*))))

Omg all these are quite awesome, i'd like to see these achievemnts in game, gj))

[TRINITY]

Red October(+100) - Be a lonely Mafia member for at least five days and win the game.
Bad ruler(+25) - Play as Mayor, vote Jester guilty and die to his curse.
Phoenix(+125) - Receive healing at least three times when being Arsonist without immunity.
Superstitious?(+25) - Win a game on Day 13.

[Raptorblaze]

Red October(+100) - Be a lonely Mafia member for at least five days and win the game.
Bad ruler(+25) - Play as Mayor, vote Jester guilty and die to his curse.
Phoenix(+125) - Receive healing at least three times when being Arsonist without immunity.
Superstitious?(+25) - Win a game on Day 13.
Red October is incredibly rare imo

[LeaD]

Phoenix being more likely sounds more stupid to me.
How'd you get that, claim a PR and have dumb enough pubs attack you a million times while getting healed?!

[Damus_Graves]

Pretty much that.

How about this one:

Divided Powers (+25):
As a Doctor, heal a bodyguard, defending an Investigator/Sheriff

[TRINITY]

Phoenix being more likely sounds more stupid to me.
How'd you get that, claim a PR and have dumb enough pubs attack you a million times while getting healed?!

Not every achievement is smart. For example:
Yo Dawg
A for Effort
Epic Fail

[Chane]

I am home and installed. time to add some more achievements.

[LeaD]

Not every achievement is smart. For example:
Yo Dawg
A for Effort
Epic Fail
you are missing the point

[Chane]

update 31-08-2012 14:29 GMT +1

* achievements added:
-Mason Republic (250) win the game as mason or mason leader with 1 ML and at least 2 other masons left alive. only masons and the ML can be alive for the achievement to count.
-Judge of Death (200) as Amnesiac remember you where citizen and win a tie with the mafia for town the following day. ~Raptorblaze
-Red October (175) win as last mafia member while being alone in the mafia for at least 5 days ~TRINITY
-Superstition (130) win the game on the 13th day. ~TRINITY
-Efficiency (50) as doctor heal a bodyguard that successfully defended a sheriff/investigator/mayor ~Damus_Graves

* spoiler section added ~Damus_Graves

Question: should I remove the ~<insert name> in the list itself now that the Library is here?

[Chane]

you are missing the point

I agree that its not a very good achievement. it depends on pubs being retarded. but it did bring give me an idea!

Question: if an arsonist has doused lets say 3 people, the arsonist dies and an amnesiac remembers him. can the amnesiac ignite and kill the doused targets in the first night he is a full fleshed arsonist?

[Gzz]

Chane , why you didn' t signed the others archi who i suggested to ? You Signed only "Lost" and "Curse of guilt" , there are others like "Aheyee , hojojo" or "Order 66"

[Chane]

Chane , why you didn' t signed the others archi who i suggested to ? You Signed only "Lost" and "Curse of guilt" , there are others like "Aheyee , hojojo" or "Order 66"

that would be because I forgot them :)

I will add them right away!

[LeaD]

ye @ Chane you can ignite previously doused targets (you can douse the night after you remembered)

[Chane]

miniature update:

achievements added:
-Phoenix (200) in a game an arsonist must die, an amnesiac must remember the arsonist and he must die, then a second amnesiac must remember arsonist and win the game. all arsonists get the achievement and all 3 of them must have at least burned 1 person.
-Vanguard (225) as godfather without immunity shoot somebody who is protected by a bodyguard, the bodyguard must be healed by a doctor and survive the night whilst the godfather must be healed by a second doctor and survive as well resulting in nobody dying in these set of events. ~Cryptonic/bunny

the latter is inspired by a real game played by bunny posted in a thread by Cryptonic.

[TRINITY]

Bookworm(+5) - Spend a total of sixty minutes on help screen.(accumulates throughout your career)
How did i get here?(+25) - Manipulate coroner into a living role. Twice.
Cannon fodder(+25) - Play as core Cultist. Be switched with a converted Cultist the night you are attacked and witness your companion die.
Teaser(+25) - Regardless of your role, type " -jail #", " -vote", " -target #" and type each of them diffirent day. Survive to the end.(# represents a number ranging from 1 to 15, notice there is a spacebar intentionally put into quotes).

[Reemus]

bodyguard got no achievement, so he can have one or more.
hero of the day : fight and kill off in duel last Town-hostile killing role, both die . near 100 points.
Enemy of my enemy : i don't know if it is real to record , but bodyguard kills off One town-hostile killing when he targeted another town-hostile killing. 150 points
Nothing to do here : As Mason Leader fail to recruit Mafia member and survive until end (10+ players alive when failed) 75 points.
And no one noticed : As killing role ( non mafia) kill Blackmailer that blackmailed you during previous day 100 points.
You will (not) feel him coming: As survivor use all except last of your vests, and get killed second night you used last one. 50 points.
When achievemnts approved earlier will be added?

[Chane]

I have updated the inner contents of the thread and the title.

I will be holding a poll shortly

EDIT: current BG related achievements:
-Efficiency (50) as doctor heal a bodyguard that successfully defended a sheriff/investigator/mayor ~Damus_Graves
-Vanguard (225) as godfather without immunity shoot somebody who is protected by a bodyguard, the bodyguard must be healed by a doctor and survive the night whilst the godfather must be healed by a second doctor and survive as well resulting in nobody dying in these set of events. ~Cryptonic/bunny

I will divide the achievements into 4 sections soon.

[Gzz]

Scrathcing the past (+120 pt.) : as amnesiac choose a cleaned roel in greyard and see janitor die next day
- Gzz

Sorry , ser, you don' t have the permiss ( +50 pt. ) : as Bodyguard, save form spree killing aat least 4 persons there is no need to survive- Gzz

Fencing training (+ 100 pt. ) : as Serial Killer at Night 1 attack a second Serial Killer who attacked you and survive this CANNOT be archived by witch control or bus driver swapping - Gzz

[Reemus]

Doesnt Bodyguard dies when saving someone?
Also those ones do not involve only bodyguard. and only two.
Disguisar
Why so Serious?! (75) - Disguise yourself as Jester and get lynched on second day after that.
F.Y.I i am watching. (125) Disguise as roleblocker who blocked fellow mafia members tonight.
I did not get your Colors bull options, so if you feel in mood you can do it yourself. Or just copy paste it.

[Chane]

Update: 01-09-2012 16:16 GMT +1

*Achievement list devided into 4 sections!
*Meta-Achievements added:
-Time well spend (50) play out 50 games of mafia
-Getting the hang of this (100) play out 100 games of mafia
-Mafia addict (250) play out 250 games of mafia
-Clocked (500) play out 500 games of mafia
-Asylum (1000) play out 1000 games of mafia
-Victory! (10) win 10 games of mafia
-Learning the ropes (25) win 25 games of mafia
-Climbing the ladder (50) win 50 games of mafia
-Close to the top (100) win 100 games of mafia
-On top of the game (250) win 250 games of mafia
-Grandmaster (500) win 500 games of mafia
-Nice try (pointban) have over 100000 points.

more to come!

[Gzz]

"Nice try" it's the one of few suggested who surely won' t be implemented if proposed in R&D ( did you rembered "One in a Milion" ? It was an archi who incentivate bad behaviur or forcing mods ot mod kill every game without reasons )

[Reemus]

We got retard who did that. Outkasst or similar, killed all players with lightning next day - No achievements. Please, confirm those one that are possible and dont need damn custom saves that contains 10 cultists (as example)to do them.

[Chane]

"Nice try" it's the one of few suggested who surely won' t be implemented if proposed in R&D ( did you rembered "One in a Milion" ? It was an archi who incentivate bad behaviur or forcing mods ot mod kill every game without reasons )

if you try to point hack that amount of points (point hacking is the only way to get this many points) it already says "nice try" making it an achievement with as "reward" a pointban is appropriate I feel.

[Reemus]

When achievements will be added?

[Chane]

When achievements will be added?

I add achievements I deem good to the list in due time. if I did not a certain suggested achievement good then it won't go in the list, as simple as that.

[Antithese]

Round Table (100)
Be part as the mayor to the last trio town - maf - neutral killing.

[Gzz]

Sorry , ser, you don' t have the invite for party ( +50 pt. ) ( +50 pt. ) : as Bodyguard, save form spree killing at least 4 persons . there is no need to survive- Gzz

Fencing training (+ 100 pt. ) : as Serial Killer at Night 1 attack a second Serial Killer who attacked you and survive s CANNOT be archived by witch control or bus driver swapping - Gzz

Paranoid park ( +150 pt.) : as framer sucessfully frame 6 person in a game as "successfully framed" i mean frame thath person and a investigative role visit he - Gzz

DiesIrae ( +100 pt. ) : as mason leader visit every mafia member in a game and get killed by mafia after it it means "you must find all mafia , THEN , for get archi , you must get killed by mafia - Gzz

Gardeb of Blood ( +100 pt. : win as Mass Murderer - Gzz

[Reemus]

When achievements will be added to GAME, not in list.

[Chane]

When achievements will be added to GAME, not in list.

when somebody with R&D access takes content from the list to the Research and Development forums for voting and polling and if it passed its on the to-do list.

[TRINITY]

I'm hallucinating!(+25) - Play as Lookout and observe a person who had at least seven visitors at night.
Some meta regarding kills:
Rookie - Kill a person during Mafia game.
Apprentice - Kill ten people throughout your games.
etc.
Wannabe - Kill an evildoer during Mafia game.
Cleanser - Kill ten evildoers throughout your games.
etc.

It should be "Time well spenT".

[Chane]

I'm hallucinating!(+25) - Play as Lookout and observe a person who had at least seven visitors at night.
Some meta regarding kills:
Rookie - Kill a person during Mafia game.
Apprentice - Kill ten people throughout your games.
etc.
Wannabe - Kill an evildoer during Mafia game.
Cleanser - Kill ten evildoers throughout your games.
etc.

you must be reading my mind :>

I was about to add a lookout achievement.

[Damus_Graves]

I don't believe that the game tracks stats through multiple games.

[Chane]

I don't believe that the game tracks stats through multiple games.

it tracks the roles you won with. its all stored in your bank file ;)

you can make the bank file save these stats I believe.

[Damus_Graves]

it tracks the roles you won with. its all stored in your bank file ;)

you can make the bank file save these stats I believe.

Those stats he suggested can't be tracked.
The Bank File Tracks Games Won, Games Played, Point Earned, and Roles won as.
I have known of nothing else that is tracked in the Bank Files

[Chane]

Those stats he suggested can't be tracked.
The Bank File Tracks Games Won, Games Played, Point Earned, and Roles won as.
I have known of nothing else that is tracked in the Bank Files

I meant the achievements for meta that are in the list right now, but I am sure its possible to make it track more things.

although I am not planning on adding those meta achievements he suggested until somebody can confirm that its possible.

[TRINITY]

Then bank files are going to be revamped.

[Damus_Graves]

That's nice.

Dr. Jekyll
(+50)

As a Mass Murderer, Have two or more nights of killing Two or more Players.

[Gzz]

Mr. Hyde

( + 50 ) .

As escort block only the mm in the entire game and win

[Cryptonic]

You guys should make sure you're not suggesting things that affect gameplay. Ie causes someone to have to do something ridiculous or to make sure people don't have to set up achievement runs.

This achievement I posted in R&D got positive feedback:
007 (+10) As Spy, get roleblocked.

[Chane]

You guys should make sure you're not suggesting things that affect gameplay. Ie causes someone to have to do something ridiculous or to make sure people don't have to set up achievement runs.

This achievement I posted in R&D got positive feedback:
007 (+10) As Spy, get roleblocked.

not sure if serious, would you like me to add it to the list? =)

[Gzz]

Teorically he can' t leak anything of R&D if not already implemented & in "Display Case"

[Chane]

Teorically he can' t leak anything of R&D if not already implemented & in "Display Case"

do you consider a 10 point achievement for being killed n1 as spy a leak? giving away the latest polled role is a leak

I am convinced 75% of the roles in R&D can be found somewhere in MD its archives and FM / m-fm

[Chane]

lysergic and elixir have both read the thread but neither replied, are the achievements so bad?

[Espozito]

Epic fail (+25) - As doctor/bodyguard, heal/defend mafia member who has been attacked and save him by that.
That's not fair! (+10) - As jester, be killed on the first night by mafia.
Two-face (+10) - As survivor, be the exact person to decide who wins in tie.
Freggy Krueger (+30) - As witch, force other player to suicide (mafioso, vigilante, arsonist/serial killer/godfather with no night immunity)
CO-OP (+75) - As arsonist, burn the victim wich has been doused by another arsonist
Secrect Agent (+50) - As amnesiac, remember that you are Serial Killer and win the game as Serial Killer

[Chane]

update: 02-09-2012 16:16 GMT +1

*achievements added:

-Armageddon (250) with 2 arsonists in the game burn a minimum of 10 people during one night
-Beyond Godlike (250) as MassMurderer kill at least 10 people during 1 game
-GraveKeeper (175) as coroner perform 9 successful autopsy
-Tie breaker (125) as Survivor lynch the last town/mafia together with the last town/mafia member during a 1v1v1 survivor vs town vs mafia.
-Tracing my steps (50) as detective follow another detective while he follows you
-Post mortum (90) be killed by 2 serial killers at the same time
-The Underworld (200) see 6 cultist in the graveyard.
-Beyond the grave (75) as coroner survive a killing spree at your house by being targeted onto a living person by a witch
-Chainsaw Massacre (75) win a game as MassMurderer

[Reemus]

Cant you just add achievemnts without stupid color? also they wont be added in months i guess.

[Chane]

Cant you just add achievemnts without stupid color? also they wont be added in months i guess.

the in-game achievements have colors. and how do you define the colors as "stupid"

and why does the time of implementation matter?

I found your comment quite immature.

[Reemus]

I found your comment half reasonable. can you add colors by yourself, please? i tried but failed. And i guess sooner achievements join games, funnier games will be.

[Damus_Graves]

GraveKeeper (175) as coroner perform 9 successful autopsy



Approved.

@Reemus, relax please. Also there is a big black A with an arrow beside it. That is how you make colors

[Chane]

I found your comment half reasonable. can you add colors by yourself, please? i tried but failed. And i guess sooner achievements join games, funnier games will be.

the colors are optional

basic:
name-content
good:
name-reward-detailed content
great:
colored name-reward-thought out content

[Damus_Graves]

Once Upon a Time (+150):
As a Coroner, autopsy the Janitor to find the Godfather. Autopsy the Godfather to find the Serial Killer and win the Game.
(this can be done. I have done it 6 separate times. Match player visited with days of no death/cleaned death)

Edit:Scrapped.

I dont play LoL

Really Chane? Dammy?


Mercy Killing: (+50)
As a Vigilante, use all your shots against a Jester, Amnesiac, and Consort in game
(Minimum 3 Shots)

[Chane]

Once Upon a Time (+150):
As a Coroner, autopsy the Janitor to find the Godfather. Autopsy the Godfather to find the Serial Killer and win the Game.
(this can be done. I have done it 6 separate times. Match player visited with days of no death/cleaned death)

Demonic Origin (+100):
As the Mass Murderer, preform a penta-kill, which kills two mafia players, two townies, and one neutral.

penta-kill? are you a LoL player dammy?

the first one is added, we already have wicked sick for 6 MM kills

[Reemus]

I did good, can you add it to your list?

[Blazer]

Nice list. I like it! I love 007.

[Damus_Graves]

I did good, can you add it to your list?

Wha..What did you contribute?

*Looks around for it*

[Reemus]

Well someone deleted it. Thanks i guess, i worked , that anonymous idiot.

[Cryptonic]

Teorically he can' t leak anything of R&D if not already implemented & in "Display Case"

It's not leaking since I came up with the idea and chose the post it here lol. I wouldn't post anybody else's ideas.

[Chane]

It's not leaking since I came up with the idea and chose the post it here lol. I wouldn't post anybody else's ideas.

I directly quoted your achievement so the ~Cryptonic came a bit late, sorry.

[LeaD]

update: 02-09-2012 16:16 GMT +1

*achievements added:

-Armageddon (250) with at least 2 arsonists in the game burn a minimum of 10 people during one night

-Beyond Godlike (250) as MassMurderer kill at least 10 people during 1 game
-GraveKeeper (175) as coroner perform 9 successful autopsy
-Tie breaker (125) as Survivor lynch the last town/mafia together with the last town/mafia member during a 1v1v1 survivor vs town vs mafia. Way too many points for something of this magnitude. More than 50 would be a stretch
-Tracing my steps (50) as detective follow another detective while he follows you - Running around in circles? I find this name more fitting/funnier
-Post mortum (90) be killed by 2 serial killers at the same time
-The Underworld (200) see 6 cultist in the graveyard.
-Beyond the grave (75) as coroner survive a killing spree at your house by being targeted onto a living person by a witch. this could be worth more, since i don't see this happening too often.
-Chainsaw Massacre (75) win a game as MassMurderer

Suggestions in red

[creedkingsx]

Role wins are usually 50 points, to add to LeaD's suggestions of which I agree with. He hasn't adjusted for things like MM and everything yet because we want to get the roles out then adjust the achievements, rather than adjust every time a role comes out.
So a win as MM would be useless.
Not to mention it is easy to win as MM, so getting 125 points for an ez win is wayyyy to much. It'd be like getting extra points for winning as Jester.

[Chane]

Suggestions in red

agreed and updated.

[Damus_Graves]

Friendly advice is to never suggest something as an achievement that involves getting banned.

My and Ginger would be on the list in no time flat..

[creedkingsx]

Friendly advice is to never suggest something as an achievement that involves getting banned.

My and Ginger would be on the list in no time flat..

ginge is already point banned xD

[Reemus]

Guess i got points reset because of that thread, huh?

[Damus_Graves]

Guess i got points reset because of that thread, huh?

Wha....what? what are you talking about???


(Blood Oath(+25):
As a Cultist, win the game by conversion)

[Reemus]

sorry guess that was my dream, 1 of 4 from tonight ~_~

Across Red Line (100) kill investigative|roleblocking townie who visited your fellow mafia membar same night (as GF)
Wrong ending (75) get on trial as Jester, be spared and die at night.
You do not mind, right? (100) as witch use Vigilante to kill 3 town members (in a row)
Back in action (125) as Veteran kill 4 visitors ( whoever they can be, already solved one game like that:D)

[Damus_Graves]

sorry guess that was my dream, 1 of 4 from tonight ~_~

Across Red Line (100) kill an investigative/roleblocking townie who visited any of your fellow mafia member on same night (as GF)

There we go.

[Chane]

sorry guess that was my dream, 1 of 4 from tonight ~_~

Across Red Line (100) kill investigative|roleblocking townie who visited your fellow mafia membar same night (as GF)
Wrong ending (75) get on trial as Jester, be spared and die at night.
You do not mind, right? (100) as witch use Vigilante to kill 3 town members (in a row)
Back in action (125) as Veteran kill 4 visitors ( whoever they can be, already solved one game like that:D)

I like 1, 2 is kinda meh and 3 and 4 are already on the list lol

[Damus_Graves]

Got a Light?: (+25)
As an Arsonist, top off an MM spree by burning the MM.

EX: MM kills 2+ ppl, dies to an arsonist.

Wildfire: (+25)
As an Arsonist, burn half the remaining townspeople alive.

[Reemus]

Truth shall not be heard (125) as mafia killing, kill investigative who checked 2 or more mafia members.(Mafia members checked must still be alive)
Any ideas? (100) as citizen, survive 5 days in town where no evil roles got lynched or killed for whole 5 days.]
Far away (100) Get drove 3 times by Busdriver in a row, surviving attack every time.

[Chane]

update: 4-9-12 21:55 GMT+1

achievements added:

-Court Murder (350) as godfather win a game where 8 of your attacks failed and you are alone for at least 5 days
-Not on my Watch (175) as bodyguard fight of and kill 3 evil killing roles
-Double Judgement(125) be jailed by 2 jailers at once and convince them to let you go.
-Corrupt Authority (150) as MasonLeader smite a mayor who has been converted into the cult, the mayor must have not lost his votes in the cult for the achievement to count.
-Paradox (25) as escort, block yourself. this can be achieved though witches and busdrivers

Note: Court Murder is possible. I just did it.

[Sin]

Double judgment isn't worth that many points.

It easily happens with 2 jailors and 1 colored name.

Also, the "target yourself" achievements shouldn't count, unless you want to see witches and BD in every game to get the achievs. There already is the one for the Mafioso with BD, I don't think we need to add another one for every class.
And this should be called "Fapping tonight", not "Paradox".

[Damus_Graves]

Chane! Why you no add my recent suggestions???

[Duffmana]

I like these ideas!

[Reemus]

No need to reload (250) as Veteran, kill three mafia members in one night day.
Full house (100) as GF, visit Veteran with two of your mafia members and get killed by him in one night. (Guess that s not very fair achievement, but happens once 100 games)

[Damus_Graves]

No need to reload (250) as Veteran, kill three mafia members in one night day.
Full house (100) as GF, visit Veteran with two of your mafia members and get killed by him in one night. (Guess that s not very fair achievement, but happens once 100 games)

The first one is 'alright'

the second one sucks.

[Blazer]

Second One: Encourage mafia to visit a confirmed veteran.

[Reemus]

yep sound like GF going to vacation. but it is not very possible every game that all 3 mafia visits veteran. So guess we can give them that achievement

[Damus_Graves]

Not even. It's a bad achievement

[Chane]

I would like to clearly and specifically state that the full house achievement will not make it into the list in a million years.

there should be no reward to gamethrowing and retarded behavior in general.

[Damus_Graves]

Self Fulfillment : (+50)
As a Witch, convert yourself.


Full House: (+25)
As Mason Leader, use all your recruits on Citizens, without failing.



Got a Light?: (+25)
As an Arsonist, top off an MM spree by burning the MM.

EX: MM kills 2+ ppl, dies to an arsonist.

Wildfire: (+25)
As an Arsonist, burn half the remaining players.



BriefMistake: (+25)
As an Executioner, win as a Jester

[Chane]

Self Fulfillment : (+50)
As a Witch, convert yourself.


Full House: (+25)
As Mason Leader, use all your recruits on Citizens, without failing.

I abselutely love the first one. I am free now but going b2s in half an hour. I will update it in a couple of hours

[TRINITY]

He is still evil(+25) - Frame your mafia fellow(thanks to BD/witch) into being a neutral killing role the same night he is checked by sheriff.
Busy evenings(+25) - While playing as role-block immune role(not SK), witness two or more attempts to block you.
Cat reflexes(+25) - Avoid being hit by bus twice or more times.
OverdoUse(+10) - Douse a previously doused target(does not matter whether you or some other arsonist doused him).
That lighter is mine!(+10) - Play as Arsonist and have all your targets ignited by some other Arsonist.
Bull$hit(+10) - Play as Spy in a game with PMs allowed but be unable to hear them due to setup option.

[Gzz]

Another brick in the Wall (+50) : as citizen get converted in the same night by cult and masons

Hiding won't save you ! (+200) : see a spee kil in your house , then get killed in another spee kill in the same night

Crap ( +100 ) : as disguiser disguiser yourself as revealed mayor and get lynched

Shyplifde ? What is ? ( +150 ) : get roleblocked in the same night by 4 consorts or escorts

Heroes of Might & Magic (+100) : as cult convert a bodyguard who saved you the night before , this obliuvsly can be archived only if bg is saved by doc

[Damus_Graves]

Edit: You corrected the achievement requirement.


Son of a...: (+50)

As a Mafioso, kill the doctor who healed you from an attack.

[Gzz]

Last Action Hero (+100) : as vigilante kill 3 mafia , then get lynched ot killed .

The Swizerland Problem (+250) : see a town composed by only different neutral , this means thath mafia and town must be killed

[Damus_Graves]

I like the swizerland problem,

[Tensa]

Drive 4 your life (+100) As BD save yourself 4 time from mafia kill by switching you with an other~Tensa
Jailor's party (+300) As jailor be 4 who jail the same person and both jailors exe him~Tensa
WTF?(+50) Be BD and switch your self with an other bd who do the same with you~Tensa
Close house(+75) Be roleblocked by Consort and Escort the same night as mayor~Tensa



(Sorry if one of those achievement idea is already proposed didn't read all post from mans)

[Gzz]

I' ve already proposed Cultson

[Tensa]

Deleted him =)

[Damus_Graves]

Drive 4 your life (+100) As BD save yourself 4 time from mafia kill by switching you with an other~Tensa
Jailor's party (+300) As jailor be 4 who jail the same person and both jailors exe him~Tensa
WTF?(+50) Be BD and switch your self with an other bd who do the same with you~Tensa
Close house(+75) Be roleblocked by Consort and Escort the same night as mayor~Tensa



(Sorry if one of those achievement idea is already proposed didn't read all post from mans)



Those. Are. Awesome.

[TRINITY]

Pretty one-sided(+25) - Be put on trial and have all fourteen people vote either guilty or innocent.
Don't push me!(+25) - Be manipulated by two witches at once onto the same target you picked.
Rainbow Reaper(+25) - Witness a night where six or more deaths were caused by diffirent means(SK, maf, vig, jail, jester, ars, bus, mason and whatever else there is).

[Damus_Graves]

Pretty one-sided(+25) - Be put on trial and have all fourteen people vote either guilty or innocent.
Don't push me!(+25) - Be manipulated by two witches at once onto the same target you picked.
Rainbow Reaper(+25) - Witness a night where six or more deaths were caused by diffirent means(SK, maf, vig, jail, jester, ars, bus, mason and whatever else there is).
i like these as well.

[Reemus]

Me not joking (75) as godfather kill jester who annoyed you last|same night.
Surviving bit long (100) as Survivor, vote another survivor Guilty when only 3 players left.
No more room (125) as lookout, see 5 people entering one house at night. Get confused as well.
Party goes on (100) as SK, kill three roleblockers who visit you through game.
Revolution (50) as Mason, vote guilty on Mason leader and become second one.
Jestering around (50) as jester get trialed , doused and attacked. Survive every disaster .
Everything goes according the plan (125) As Disguise, get rid of Investigative who checked you earlier.

[Damus_Graves]

Revolution is a very bad achievement.

[TRINITY]

Me not joking (75) as godfather kill jester who annoyed you last|same night.
Surviving bit long (100) as Survivor, vote another survivor Guilty when only 3 players left.
No more room (125) as lookout, see 5 people entering one house at night. Get confused as well.
Party goes on (100) as SK, kill three roleblockers who visit you through game.
Revolution (50) as Mason, vote guilty on Mason leader and become second one.
Jestering around (50) as jester get trialed , doused and attacked. Survive every disaster .
Everything goes according the plan (125) As Disguise, get rid of Investigative who checked you earlier.

Surviving bit long is impossible to perform. Three people left and two of them are survivors = end of the game.
No more room is already on i think.
Revolution like Damus_Graves said is bad as it employs game-throwing to a degree.

[Damus_Graves]

It looks like Chane gave up on this thread

[Chane]

It looks like Chane gave up on this thread

no, I am just so bussy atm with school that I bearly have time to sit down and edit it. upates will be weekly and big.

also, I am trying to get paypal to work so I can donate, so I can get acces to R&d, so I can bring it up for more serious consideration once the new roles are added. as stated before, DR wants the new roles first and achievements after.

I have not forgotten :)

[Ekkeh]

Traumatised (100) As a lookout, witness the Mass Murderer kill atleast 3 people and survive. ~Ekkeh
Try harder (75) As a jester, get trialed three times and survive. ~Ekkeh

[Damus_Graves]

Personally, Traumatised should be 50 and try harder 10 or 15.

Reasons:
try harder is basically a gamethrow cheevo and traumatized is easy to do

[Cryptonic]

I don't find Try Harder to be gamethrowing at all. You have no control over the entire situation.

[Reemus]

SK|Arso|MM vs 2 survivors - survivors do not win.
Also i dont call revoultion Gamethrowing, but if you are 100% sure. Just add what can be added. non of my achivements got to suggestion list.

[Chane]

I don't find Try Harder to be gamethrowing at all. You have no control over the entire situation.

imho it makes playing jester even harder, because you want to get trialed 3 times and get lynched the 4th. that beeing said this achievement will be added with reduced point worth and the added condition of getting lynched later.

[Chane]

SK|Arso|MM vs 2 survivors - survivors do not win.
Also i dont call revoultion Gamethrowing, but if you are 100% sure. Just add what can be added. non of my achivements got to suggestion list.

if you go a page back you can see the reason why. they might still be added to the list in the next big update ;)

[Damus_Graves]

Charming: (+25)
As an Escort, role block every mafia member without fail from n1

[Reemus]

Well fine then. Looking forward.

[Chane]

Well fine then. Looking forward.

I have read all your suggestions and I do like some of them, don't worry you will get your own section probably :)

[Blazer]

Blazer: Burn all other remaining players in one night. (666(-566))
Blaze Of Variety: Burn 1 player from each alignment in one night. (+75)
Trail Blazer: Burn the busdriver as he switches you with someone else at night. (+50)
Blazing Fireworks: Burn every single player alive along with yourself. (+125)
Mother Of God: Be the only survivor after 5+ Players were found dead the previous night. (+100)

[Tensa]

Tensa : Play with Tensa (+1)
Problem???(+80)As a jester get lynched and kill the last evil or town
I'm not a failor(+50)Execute day 1 and day 2 evils roles~Tensa
Let me speak(+150)Be blackmailed the whole time you live~Tensa
Frenchs....(+200)Be killed by a french jailor as town first night.~Tensa
Seriously?(+50)Be roleblocked 5 night in a row as gf.~Tensa
Let me live in peace(+150)Use all your vest as surv for survive an attack~Tensa
UMAD??(+1)Finish the game at the 29nd day or 30(1 day before marathon achievement)~Tensa



(Tell me if someone proposed this I gonna delete the achievement)

[Reemus]

Mark of approval (125) as Sheriff , check mafia at night and get one bad guy at the day( even if that is not one checked)
being benign (150) get jailed, checked , saved from death as neutral benign , dont vote guilty through lynches and survive until end.
I AM NOT! (25) Dont fail as jailor even once.
Have better to attend (50) play game in which Godfather did not kill anyone ( but was alive at least 3 nights).

[creedkingsx]

:|

[Damus_Graves]

Tensa : Play with Tensa (+1)
Problem???(+80)As a jester get lynched and kill the last evil or town
I'm not a failor(+50)Execute day 1 and day 2 evils roles~Tensa
Let me speak(+150)Be blackmailed the whole time you live~Tensa
Frenchs....(+200)Be killed by a french jailor as town first night.~Tensa
Seriously?(+50)Be roleblocked 5 night in a row as gf.~Tensa
Let me live in peace(+150)Use all your vest as surv for survive an attack~Tensa
UMAD??(+1)Finish the game at the 29nd day or 30(1 day before marathon achievement)~Tensa



(Tell me if someone proposed this I gonna delete the achievement)

your good. however make UMAD??? at least 50. cause thats cruel.

[Ekkeh]

A noble sacrifice (25) As a bodyguard, protect the revealed mayor from an attack. ~Ekkeh
Buddyguard (50) As a bodyguard, protect another bodyguard from an attack. ~Ekkeh
Buddyguard BFF (100) As a bodyguard, protect another bodyguard that protected you and survived. ~Ekkeh
I'm not afraid! (10) When dead and playing roulette, pull the trigger two times in a row with a 6 round gun and survive. ~Ekkeh
Better buy a lotery ticket now! (50) When dead and playing roulette, pull the trigger five times in a row with a 6 round gun and survive. ~Ekkeh

[Damus_Graves]

A noble sacrifice (25) As a bodyguard, protect the revealed mayor from an attack.
Buddyguard (50) As a bodyguard, protect another bodyguard from an attack.
Buddyguard BFF (100) As a bodyguard, protect another bodyguard that protected you and survived.
I'm not afraid! (10) When dead and playing roulette, pull the trigger two times in a row with a 6 round gun and survive.
Better buy a lotery ticket now! (50) When dead and playing roulette, pull the trigger five times in a row with a 6 round gun and survive.
those are pretty good.




Mark of approval (125) as Sheriff , check mafia at night and get one bad guy at the day( even if that is not one checked)
being benign (150) get jailed, checked , saved from death as neutral benign , dont vote guilty through lynches and survive until end.
I AM NOT! (25) Dont fail as jailor even once.
Have better to attend (50) play game in which Godfather did not kill anyone ( but was alive at least 3 nights).

these are either already suggested or bad achievements



Dreamstate: (+50)
As a Citizen use your vest and get recruited by the masons on the same night you get attacked by a disguiser.
Who dun it:(+50)
As a Disguiser, successfully disguise yourself as a citizen the night he get recruited into the masons. (This is possible right?)

[Chane]

I am having some serious issues getting pay-pal to work to donate so I can make an R&D version of this thread.

but I will have one big update with 30+ achievements when I get it to work finally. I have to visit my local bank first.

[TRINITY]

Hi there!(+25) - While playing Detective, check at least three people and see them all visit you.
Shock therapy(+25) - Play as Spy, see a mafia kill coming for you and be healed the same night.
Scarface(+25) - Be healed from a burn. OR/AND Extinguisher(+25) - Save a person from getting burnt to death.


Who dun it : (+50)
As a Disguiser, successfully disguise yourself as a citizen the night he get recruited into the masons. (This is possible right?)
Disguiser acts before Mason Leader so i doubt this is an option.

[Damus_Graves]

Hi there!(+25) - While playing Detective, check at least three people and see them all visit you.
Shock therapy(+25) - Play as Spy, see a mafia kill coming for you and be healed the same night.
Scarface(+25) - Be healed from a burn. OR/AND Extinguisher(+25) - Save a person from getting burnt to death.

you have some nice achievement idea's there mate.


Cuts and Bruises (+50)
As a Mass Murderer, cause an evisceration of only evil or town roles in one night.

[Reemus]

Personality problems (100) visit Vetean on alert at night 1 , being Disguise.
Gasoline crisis ( 75) as Bus driver change yourself with someone who got doused = you got doused and burned to get that achievement.
Masquerade (100) Successfully Disguise yourself as veteran, after that night when he killed someone. (lot of dumb veterans reveal themselves after killing doc|sheriff)
Null effect (200) Get all mafia and 8 town, while neutral killing and witch still alive.
One crazy witch(75) as witch target killing role on yourself, died or survived- achievement got.
Illusion (100) Disguise yourself as revealed Mayor and survive until the end.
Mask of failure (100) fail to disguise three times in a row.

[Damus_Graves]

Personality problems (100) visit Vetean on alert at night 1 , being Disguise.
Gasoline crisis ( 75) as Bus driver change yourself with someone who got doused = you got doused and burned to get that achievement.
Masquerade (100) Successfully Disguise yourself as veteran, after that night when he killed someone. (lot of dumb veterans reveal themselves after killing doc|sheriff)
Null effect (200) Get all mafia and 8 town, while neutral killing and witch still alive.
One crazy witch(75) as witch target killing role on yourself, died or survived- achievement got.
Illusion (100) Disguise yourself as revealed Mayor and survive until the end.
Mask of failure (100) fail to disguise three times in a row.

do you have some obsession with suggesting achievements that are not well thought out?

[Blazer]

do you have some obsession with suggesting achievements that are not well thought out?

Don't blame him for not completing a thought process.

[Reemus]

have you ever told anything kind to anyone? of course you have not.

[Chane]

he has, but that's besides the point.

a groundwork is good enough for an achievement but if I have to change it very very dramatically little chance it will be added/credited.

[Damus_Graves]

I'm kind too tons of people. I just constantly see you suggesting achievements that require people to actively die or something.

[Blazer]

Bad semaritan: don't vote the whole game.

[Damus_Graves]

Harken: (+50)
As a lookout, get witched onto yourself and see at least four people visit you.

[Tensa]

I carryed my team(+60)Get killed as town day 1 and win at the end~Tensa
Close enough(+100)Be jailed and executed as sk before kill the jailor (sk kill roleblocker -on)~Tensa
For Tassadar !(+200)Be 5 in a cult team alive or dead~Tensa
I want to burn you ...(+100)As arsonist burn only man who die the night you doused him~Tensa(I think this achievement is already suggested tell to me if it is)



(Fast no idea more T_T)

[Damus_Graves]

Close enough(+100)Be jailed and executed as sk before kill the jailor (sk kill roleblocker -on)
i dont understand this one.

[Blazer]

i dont understand this one.

he means you get 100 free points for getting executed by jailor as sk with sk kill rbers on

[Tensa]

If the jailor execute the sk he don't get killed no


Yes it give freepoints cause they are cool :D

[Damus_Graves]

The Achievements below are worth 25 or 50

Whisper:
As a Lookout watch the jailor execute his victim, which had two other visiters.

I tried:
As a Bodyguard, get roleblocked by a consort trying to save someone from dying.

Silence:
As a Blackmailor, silence a Spy

Good Enough:
As a Sheriff find a mafia member n1 and watch him role sk or arson or mm

New Found Religion:
As a Mason Leader or Cultist recruit/convert three times successfully without losing a Mason/Cultist to death

iJelly:
As a mafioso be on a team with two disguisers and win flawlessly.


Trust Me:
As a Executioner, win and cause one faction to lose completely

[TRINITY]

The Achievements below are worth 25 or 50

Whisper:
As a Lookout watch the jailor execute his victim, which had two other visiters.

I tried:
As a Bodyguard, get roleblocked by a consort trying to save someone from dying.

Silence:
As a Blackmailor, silence a Spy

Good Enough:
As a Sheriff find a mafia member n1 and watch him role sk or arson or mm

New Found Religion:
As a Mason Leader or Cultist recruit/convert three times successfully without losing a Mason/Cultist to death

iJelly:
As a mafioso be on a team with two disguisers and win flawlessly.


Trust Me:
As a Executioner, win and cause one faction to lose completely

Is Whisper possible? I thought Jailor is considered to stay home even when executing his detainee.

[Damus_Graves]

Is Whisper possible? I thought Jailor is considered to stay home even when executing his detainee.

I'm pretty sure its possible


Looks just like your Good Enough. I suggested it on page 9.

Good Enough is for sheriff. yours is for framer.

[TRINITY]

Cheating on your wife?(+25) - As citizen be roleblocked by at least two diffirent role-blockers.
OR/AND
Romance(+25) - As citizen be roleblocked at least three times by the same role-blocker.
Balance issues(+10) - In graveyard chat rage about something being imbalanced.
Self-sustaining(+25) - As Doctor, be redirected onto yourself and heal yourself.

[Damus_Graves]

can balance issues be done?

[TRINITY]

I'm pretty sure it can because in Star Battle you have an identical award. There is no graveyard chat though so you have to cry about OP things in game chat.

[Blazer]

I'm assuming it's just spam until it says stop?

[Damus_Graves]

Union Workers:(+15)
As a Citizen, get recruited as a mason.

Can't Trust Him(+25)
As a Framer, frame someone as a blackmailor the night they get blackmailed.

[Damus_Graves]

-SIlence (25) as blackmailer silence yourself thought a busdriver or a witch.


sry bro. previously suggested

[RLVG]

Random achievement :

Contrived Coincidence
As a witch, witch the killer to target yourself while another witches a bodyguard to defend you - due to a bus driver having changed both targets.

[Tensa]

Wanna delete my post so :D

[Ekkeh]

Random achievement :

Contrived Coincidence
As a witch, witch the killer to target yourself while another witches a bodyguard to defend you - due to a bus driver having changed both targets.

That happens way too often.:>

[TRINITY]

Obsession(+25) - Play as Executioner and visit your target at least twice(thanks to witch) before seeing him executed.
Transform!(+25) - Evolve into Mafioso from every possible mafia role(consig too!).
Retribution(+50) - While being Amnesiac get attacked and survive(heal/jail doesn't matter), then remember that you used to be like Witch and force your attacker to kill himself.

[Vitalise]

is this offical? I like some of them,

-trololo(100) choose justin bieber as name roll jester and win

[Chane]

is this offical? I like some of them,

-trololo(100) choose justin bieber as name roll jester and win

c'mon, do you seriously expect that to ever happen?

[Damus_Graves]

c'mon, do you seriously expect that to ever happen?

Update?

[RLVG]

Random things that pop up in my head.


The Naugthy Roulette
Witness a game where an escort roleblocks a consort who roleblocks a second escort who roleblocks a second consort who roleblocks a third escort who roleblocks an amnesiac.

Sudden Turn of Life
As an executioner, turn to a cultist the night you were suppose to become jester.

The Hero
As jailor, execute an arsonist who have doused nine or more players.

I'm Taking You With Me
As a Veteran or Mass Murderer, commit -suicide while turning alert killing all 14 players who visits you

Self Suspect
As Jester, annoy all the murdered targets of the neutral killer and get lynched when there's only three players left.

Holy Wars
Witness a game of four mason and a mason leader, togheter with five cultists.

What Fire?
As Arsonist, win the game with only yourself standing, without ever having doused anyone or having spoken once.

Mafia's Wrath
As Mafia, be the one to kill the busdriver that swapped you- the escort that roleblocked you- the jailor who jailed you- the mason & cultist that tried to recruit you- the doctor that healed you from dying- the vigilante that tried to kill you- the bodyguard who protected you, and still loose to a citizen tie.

[Damus_Graves]

I'm Taking You With Me
As a Veteran or Mass Murderer, commit -suicide while turning alert killing all 14 players who visits you
Mafia's Wrath
As Mafia, be the one to kill the busdriver that swapped you- the escort that roleblocked you- the jailor who jailed you- the mason & cultist that tried to recruit you- the doctor that healed you from dying- the vigilante that tried to kill you- the bodyguard who protected you, and still loose to a citizen tie.

not possible methinks

[RLVG]

I'm Taking You With Me
As a Veteran or Mass Murderer, commit -suicide while turning alert killing all 14 players who visits you

Mafia's Wrath
As Mafia, be the one to kill the busdriver that swapped you- the escort that roleblocked you- the jailor who jailed you- the mason & cultist that tried to recruit you- the doctor that healed you from dying- the vigilante that tried to kill you- the bodyguard who protected you, and still loose to a citizen tie.

not possible methinks

It's possible if no players has a role preventing them from visiting anyone. Then all of them targeting you.

As for Wrath, that's 8 players to kill - 3 mafia would be 11, and a last as a citizen 12. It's highly possible if there's no neutral killer or if the killer is unlucky.
Of course, there's 15 players so.

[TRINITY]

Random things that pop up in my head.


The Naugthy Roulette
Witness a game where an escort roleblocks a consort who roleblocks a second escort who roleblocks a second consort who roleblocks a third escort who roleblocks an amnesiac.

Sudden Turn of Life
As an executioner, turn to a cultist the night you were suppose to become jester.

The Hero
As jailor, execute an arsonist who have doused nine or more players.

I'm Taking You With Me
As a Veteran or Mass Murderer, commit -suicide while turning alert killing all 14 players who visits you

Self Suspect
As Jester, annoy all the murdered targets of the neutral killer and get lynched when there's only three players left.

Holy Wars
Witness a game of four mason and a mason leader, togheter with five cultists.

What Fire?
As Arsonist, win the game with only yourself standing, without ever having doused anyone or having spoken once.

Mafia's Wrath
As Mafia, be the one to kill the busdriver that swapped you- the escort that roleblocked you- the jailor who jailed you- the mason & cultist that tried to recruit you- the doctor that healed you from dying- the vigilante that tried to kill you- the bodyguard who protected you, and still loose to a citizen tie.

1. Amnesiac is role-block immune.
2. ++
3. That would need to be a silly game. Executing an arso when there are 9+ doused targets regardless of who doused them is a better option methinks.
4. Probably impossible. Often you roll night inactive roles and i wouldn't expect witches to do all the job.
5. Why not, but really doable with sk as neut killer.
6. ++
7. Totally broken. Interferes with this role's job.
8. Impossible in public games. 2+ ragequits(or mass -repick) when you reveal such save.

[Damus_Graves]

The Messager: (+15)

As a Spy see the mafia 2/3rds of the mafia target one person in two separate nights in the same game

[RLVG]

1. Amnesiac is role-block immune.
2. ++
3. That would need to be a silly game. Executing an arso when there are 9+ doused targets regardless of who doused them is a better option methinks.
4. Probably impossible. Often you roll night inactive roles and i wouldn't expect witches to do all the job.
5. Why not, but really doable with sk as neut killer.
6. ++
7. Totally broken. Interferes with this role's job.
8. Impossible in public games. 2+ ragequits(or mass -repick) when you reveal such save.


1 is where all are roleblockers, with apropriate setting they are all role-immune, with an amnesiac as a neutral benign to join.
3 escorts and 2 consorts is a max, but not when there's 3. :P

3. True, but I've been an arso who managed to douse 9 player and got jailed & executed, none of the murder victims being doused. I raged when I was about to burn lol.

4. There's a small chance of getting pure visit roles, regardless of setup - unless there's a preset non-visit roles like Mayor, Executioner, Spy, etc.
GF is able to join.
This is the legit way of seeing "Your setup is shit"

7. Is for fun, and to reveal an AFK arsonist to win which is quite hard, usualy only seen by hacks or a complete horrible town & setup.

8. Again, it's possible with a normal setup, it all defends if it's not pure preset. It does not have to be in an order.

2, 4 & 6 are more serious.


There's a few fun achievements to the list, so why not?

No more random achievements from me, but this will probably inspire a bit.

[TRINITY]

One step ahead(+25) - Convert at least two people who were visited by Mason Leader the same night you visited them.
All guns blazing(+50) - Witness a game where seven or more diffirent people attempt to kill(success/failure doesn't matter) someone else.
Angels are watching(+25) - Be saved from death by three diffirent Doctors.

[Reemus]

All guns blazing possible with retard host.

[Damus_Graves]

that does not mean that it is a good achievement though.

[Chane]

that does not mean that it is a good achievement though.

quite the opposite :)

[Roflcopter]

Never reaching the other side(Points locked at 4999): Become point-banned.

Failure in office(5): As mayor, get lynched.

One way road(100): As a bus driver, run over another bus driver, and get run over yourself.

Under your own free will(69): As witch, control an escort or a consort to roleblock you.

It's just one of those days...(10): As sheriff, visit at least six different targets and have them all come up not suspicious.

[TRINITY]

Is third one even possible? Bus drivers are not killer roles.

[Roflcopter]

I think so, bus drivers can get kills via swapping themselves with someone that targets them.

So if BDs swap eachother with eachother...

[Gzz]

They run over eachother , but at that point i will call the archiviment "I don' t have driver's licenseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

[TRINITY]

Only killer roles can be run over by bus if BD switches their target with themselves. BDs are not killer roles and cannot be run over by a bus.

[Roflcopter]

Are you sure? I thought they can run over anyone who targets them if they swap with them?

[Gzz]

They can run over everyone , i tested , i asked to bd to switch he with me while i was investigating he ( i was investigator ) , well , i get run over

[TRINITY]

'If a bus driver swaps a killing roll and their target with death descriptions turned on a message exclaiming that the killing role was hit by a bus will be displayed.'

Taken from Wiki. Gzz attach a replay, please. From what i understand you investigated him, while he swapped himself with you. I think you would end up investigating yourself then, as if witch forced you to target yourself.

[Reemus]

Forever,cultist (100) as Cultist convert players who GET KILLED SAME NIGHT , DO IT WHOLE DAMN GAME!

[TRINITY]

Sudden strike(+25) - As Veteran choose not to go on alert, be manipulated by Witch and cause her death by your ability's activation.
Defiant(+25) - Play as Bodyguard and save a Cultist from Mason Leader's purge.
My cell is on fire!(+25) - Burn a jailed(and spared) captive.

[LeaD]

^I told you not to touch anything
seems like a cool name for the first one

[Damus_Graves]

Forever,cultist (100) as Cultist convert players who GET KILLED SAME NIGHT , DO IT WHOLE DAMN GAME!

Another not so good achievement.

[Chane]

Sudden strike(+25) - As Veteran choose not to go on alert, be manipulated by Witch and cause her death by your ability's activation.
Defiant(+25) - Play as Bodyguard and save a Cultist from Mason Leader's purge.
My cell is on fire!(+25) - Burn a jailed(and spared) captive.

happened to me just now lol, except I was the cultist ;)

[TRINITY]

Oh, it's only you...(+25) - As Veteran stay on alert at night and be visited by at least two roles who cannot be killed by your ability(that's coroner, janitor, amnesiac and lookout).
Override(+25) - Play as Godfather and override suggestions from fellow mafia members at least three times.
Let me take if off you(+25) - As Arsonist undouse someone you previously doused(excluding yourself).