S-FM XXIII: Eden of the East

[Deathfire123]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pdqeu9LW2c

Hello, my name is Juiz.

I was given instructions to tell you all the information you need to know for your survival.

You are all members of an organization called the Town. Your goal is to stop the terrorism that threatens the world. You have all been given 10 billion yen to share for your efforts. You will be able to purchase a numerous number of perks such as role lists, graveyard information, investigation results, the use of last wills, kill types, and role perks as well that augment and empower certain roles.

However be warned, the terrorists have a budget of their own and will be using it to wreak havoc on the world, they must be stopped.

The terrorists are disorganised however, and all of you are safe for tonight. You will be able to perform your given duties during the night but expect some discrepancies in your night actions, no vigilantes can kill during night one, as well as some other hidden rules which you can buy if you want.

Noblesse Oblige

I pray for your continuing service as a saviour.

[Deathfire123]

Day 1 will end in 25 hours and 45 minutes from this post (3PM GMT-7)

Things you are allowed to buy day 1:

Simple Role List:
Shows how many town vs. non-town. 2B yen

Closed Role List(Common):
Shows how many power roles vs. how many mafia power roles. 5B yen

Open Role List:
Shows every single role in the game. 9B yen

Graveyard Information:
Shows who died and what role the person was in the graveyard. 3B yen

Investigation Results:
Shows the pairings that an investigator or consigliere would get when they check someone (be warned neither might be in the game). 5B yen

Death Types:
Shows how a person died(by mafia/by vigilante/etc.) 2B yen

Mayor Buff:
Give the mayor an extra vote when claimed (There may not be a mayor)(This also works for doublevoter) 1.5B yen

Doctor Buff:
Can protect person from all deaths, not just one attack (There may not be a doctor) 2.5B yen

Sheriff Buff:
Tell the sheriff which type he is. (There may not be a sheriff or misinformed sheriff) 2B yen

Vigilante Buff:
The Vigilante can give away one of his two guns. (There may not be a vigilante) 3.5B yen

Investigator Buff:
Detects exact role. (There may not be an investigator) 5.5B yen

Coroner Buff:
Results are directly transmitted to the town via the Opening post. (There may not be a coroner) 4B yen

Detective Buff:
Can see who the person that they follow visits and who the person that was visited by the person they followed visits as well (There may not be a detective) 2B yen

Lookout Buff:
Can see everyone who visits someone and what actions were performed on that person (There may not be a lookout) 3.5B yen

Enchantress Buff:
Can also repel people as well (There may not be an enchantress) 2B yen

Escort Buff:
Has a one-time use ability where she can choose who to block during the day and chat with that person during the night. (There may not be an escort) 3B yen

Whore Buff:
Give em another charge of whorin' (There may not be a whore) 2B yen

Vengeful Buff:
Person they take with them doesn't have to be someone who voted them (There may not be a vengeful) 3B yen

Bodyguard Buff:
Instead of dying and taking someone with them, they can intercept a shot and redirect it to someone of their choice (Will affect death type) (There may not be a bodyguard) 2.5B yen

Multi-Lynch Day:
Buy a day of multiple lynches where you can lynch two people instead of one! 7.5B yen!

Last Wills:
You can use em 3.5B yen

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask

EDIT: OH RIGHT! also, you will be given more money each day. The amount of money given to the town at the beginning of the day is dependant on how much was spent the previous day, the less money you spend, the more money you will be given the next day for spending

[AppleyNO]

Why hello everyone! I think we need to buy some sort of role list.
Which one?

I move for a simple role list, but I would be willing to vote for a closed role list.

[Deathfire123]

Please read the edit at the end of post #2

[AppleyNO]

Please read the edit at the end of post #2

Thank you, I was freaking out. This makes it a lot better

-Vote buy Closed Role list

[Blazer]

How about no you moron. The less money you spend, the more you will be given the next day.
No one can kill for 2 days, lets not buy anything today and get more money to spend tomorrow.

[Blazer]

How about no. The less money you spend, the more you will be given the next day.
No one can kill for 2 days, lets not buy anything today and get more money to spend tomorrow.
FIx'd

[AppleyNO]

How about no. The less money you spend, the more you will be given the next day.
No one can kill for 2 days, lets not buy anything today and get more money to spend tomorrow.

Ok then.
-Unvote buy
Im going to sleep. I hope to be able to absorb information better in a few hours. =)

[Glip]

The setup states that the mafia needs two nights to perform their first kill. It also states that the game would start at night 0. Thus it appears that tonight would be the second night and they would be able to perform a kill tonight.

Will the mafia be able to send someone to kill on night 1? On night 2?

[Blazer]

The setup states that the mafia needs two nights to perform their first kill. It also states that the game would start at night 0. Thus it appears that tonight would be the second night and they would be able to perform a kill tonight.

Will the mafia be able to send someone to kill on night 1? On night 2?

Good call....I just assumed night 2 when it said 2 nights >.>

[Deathfire123]

The setup states that the mafia needs two nights to perform their first kill. It also states that the game would start at night 0. Thus it appears that tonight would be the second night and they would be able to perform a kill tonight.

Will the mafia be able to send someone to kill on night 1? On night 2?

I lied. It started at Day 1. No they can't send on night 1 they can on night 2

[Blazer]

I lied. It started at Day 1. No they can't send on night 1 they can on night 2

Liar...

[Glip]

What is the interest rate on the money we save?

May we make more than one purchase per day?

[Blazer]

Just finished movie #1. On to #2!

[AppleyNO]

Just finished movie #1. On to #2!

Isnt there also like 12 anime episodes.... Which one should I watch first, Movie or anime show?

[Blazer]

Isnt there also like 12 anime episodes.... Which one should I watch first, Movie or anime show?

Anime or you will be lost. It's 11 episodes. They are pretty good ^^ then movie #1 and #2. I think there is a music video for it but meh.

[Glip]

Am I going to have to watch this silly anime stuff in order to understand what's going on?

[Blazer]

Am I going to have to watch this silly anime stuff in order to understand what's going on?

It will help. But you must watch it. It is good. *use jedi mind trick*

[Duzero]

-vote Blazer

We have been on different teams 2 games in a row, so why should this one be different? DIE!

[AppleyNO]

-vote Blazer

We have been on different teams 2 games in a row, so why should this one be different? DIE!

You seem scummy, I mean, Why else would you visit Blazer TWICE!
-vote Duzero

[Duzero]

You seem scummy, I mean, Why else would you visit Blazer TWICE!
-vote Duzero

Corrupt host!

[AppleyNO]

Corrupt host!
Im not hosting.

[Duzero]

Im not hosting.

Trying to trick me now, eh? I won't fall for it.

[Blazer]

-vote Blazer

We have been on different teams 2 games in a row, so why should this one be different? DIE!

How do you know we aren't on the same team? You already see your mafia buddies?!?! HUH!??! HUH!!??!?!??!

-vote Dubzero!

Here's a message for all of you viewers.

You're all my b*tches.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGB7gVrEQWc

Now shake that!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMIAp9Q0xfk

[AppleyNO]

Trying to trick me now, eh? I won't fall for it.
My eyes are on you.

[AppleyNO]

How do you know we aren't on the same team? You already see your mafia buddies?!?! HUH!??! HUH!!??!?!??!

-vote Dubzero!

Here's a message for all of you viewers.

You're all my b*tches.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGB7gVrEQWc

Now shake that!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMIAp9Q0xfk

Not helping your campaign.

[Blazer]

Not helping your campaign.

*shrugs* Day 1 is troll day.

[Glip]

Oh yay, a lynch train! I love lynch trains!

ALL ABOARD THE DUZERO EXPRESS!

-vote Duzero

[Duzero]

How do you know we aren't on the same team? You already see your mafia buddies?!?! HUH!??! HUH!!??!?!??!

-vote Dubzero!

Here's a message for all of you viewers.

You're all my b*tches.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGB7gVrEQWc

Now shake that!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMIAp9Q0xfk

And you're my little turd xD

[Duzero]

Lynch me and town looses :O

[Glip]

Lynch me and town looses :O

How do we know you're not lying?

[AppleyNO]

How do we know you're not lying?

He is obvious scum.
He visited Blazer twice.

[Deathfire123]

What is the interest rate on the money we save?

May we make more than one purchase per day?

#1: Himitsu ;)
#2: Yeppers

[Deathfire123]

Am I going to have to watch this silly anime stuff in order to understand what's going on?

Only if you want to understand RP stuff, otherwise nah

[Glip]

#1: Himitsu

Oh come on bro, don't keep it secret. I don't want to have us save all our money today just to find out that the amount of money we gain for saving 10 billion yen is 5 yen -.-

[Deathfire123]

Oh come on bro, don't keep it secret. I don't want to have us save all our money today just to find out that the amount of money we gain for saving 10 billion yen is 5 yen -.-

All I'm saying is that it'll be worth saving your money

[Duzero]

All I'm saying is that it'll be worth saving your money

Save money today, strippers for everybody tomorrow?

[Bahkieh]

Strippers....fuck yeah

[Sumikoko]

I agree. Let's save all our money today. If Mafia can't attack today, then there's no point. Otherwise, I would have suggested buying a graveyard. Role list is irrelevant the first few days.

[Glip]

I agree. Let's save all our money today. If Mafia can't attack today, then there's no point. Otherwise, I would have suggested buying a graveyard. Role list is irrelevant the first few days.

This. There is absolutely no reason to buy anything today, as we shall obtain more money by saving it and, if we wish, we can make more than one purchase tomorrow.
I propose we -skip day 1, buy nothing, and then tomorrow buy atleast the graveyard, so we'll know who actually died night 2 and isn't just lurking.

-skip day

[Glip]

If we purchase the graveyard after people have already died, will they and their roles be revealed?

If yes, perhaps we could put off buying anything until day 3 to gain even more cash.

[Blazer]

And you're my little turd xD
:shy: oh you

Save money today, strippers for everybody tomorrow?
Hell yeah!! Get some porn star dancing in here!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEdRm24u0w0



Just finished the series (movies included) good series. The ending was lame. I would've ended differently.

Why the hell did he have to leave Saki? Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

[Blazer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pdqeu9LW2c

Hello, my name is Juiz.

I was given instructions to tell you all the information you need to know for your survival.

You are all members of an organization called the Town. Your goal is to stop the terrorism that threatens the world. You have all been given 10 billion yen to share for your efforts. You will be able to purchase a numerous number of perks such as role lists, graveyard information, investigation results, the use of last wills, kill types, and role perks as well that augment and empower certain roles.

However be warned, the terrorists have a budget of their own and will be using it to wreak havoc on the world, they must be stopped.

The terrorists are disorganised however, and all of you are safe for tonight. You will be able to perform your given duties during the night but expect some discrepancies in your night actions, no vigilantes can kill during night one, as well as some other hidden rules which you can buy if you want.

Noblesse Oblige

I pray for your continuing service as a saviour.
FAIL! <3

Where the hell is everyone?

[Fatalis]

-vote open role list
That's like auto win :)

[clementine]

My thoughts on potential purchases:


Types of role lists:
Simple Role List:
Shows how many town vs. non-town. 2B yen
In this mafia v. town game with no neutrals, we can pretty much assume 4 v 9. This option gives town information mafia already has, but most likely only confirms what we already can guess at.

Closed Role List(Common):
Shows how many power roles vs. how many mafia power roles. 5B yen
Gives mafia information as well as town information. Seems like a good option to me, as a happy medium because it doesn't give away too much information.

Open Role List:
Shows every single role in the game. 9B yen
Bad, because mafia has the most to gain from this list. If there are no protective roles, for example, then mafia will know that and adjust their night actions accordingly. Don't vote this option to keep up a veil of WIFOM.

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Graveyard Information:
Shows who died and what role the person was in the graveyard. 3B yen
This is extremely important for us to buy when the night kills start.

Investigation Results:
Shows the pairings that an investigator or consigliere would get when they check someone (be warned neither might be in the game). 5B yen
I think we should wait to buy this if an investigator claims (so we can "prove" their power as an invest/consig). Use this to catch someone in a lie.

Death Types:
Shows how a person died(by mafia/by vigilante/etc.) 2B yen
If someone dies, it's most likely mafia unless they seemed extremely scummy during the day. If there is an extra kill, we'll know one of them was from a vigilante (or the mafia bomb...) Would still be useful, but a lower priority buy, imo.

Mayor Buff:
Give the mayor an extra vote when claimed (There may not be a mayor)(This also works for doublevoter) 1.5B yen
We should keep enough money to buy this power in the bank at all times in order to ensure that we can buy it in the case that we need an extra vote to make a lynch. It's an important safety net purchase.

Doctor Buff:
Can protect person from all deaths, not just one attack (There may not be a doctor) 2.5B yen
The only reason I can see for this is if someone gets exploded by a mafia bomb and night killed while being doctor protected. And/or vigi shot. I feel like the probability is rather low for this to be useful.

Sheriff Buff:
Tell the sheriff which type he is. (There may not be a sheriff or misinformed sheriff) 2B yen
If a sheriff reveals with a list of results we could buy this to figure out who to lynch. Save 2B yen to buy this. Note to sheriffs: please don't reveal unless you have already figured out your alignment from the graveyard OR we have 2B yen left to buy this.

Vigilante Buff:
The Vigilante can give away one of his two guns. (There may not be a vigilante) 3.5B yen
If there is a vigilante, we should buy this so he can give a gun to a confirmed town. Can re-evaluate usefulness later.

Investigator Buff:
Detects exact role. (There may not be an investigator) 5.5B yen
Does this also apply to consigs? I would rather not buy this if it gives mafia a buff, too.

Coroner Buff:
Results are directly transmitted to the town via the Opening post. (There may not be a coroner) 4B yen
Not sure if the cost is worth the risk of buying this without having a coroner.

Detective Buff:
Can see who the person that they follow visits and who the person that was visited by the person they followed visits as well (There may not be a detective) 2B yen
This seems like a good purchase because of the information that it gives us.

Lookout Buff:
Can see everyone who visits someone and what actions were performed on that person (There may not be a lookout) 3.5B yen
This sounds really powerful.

Enchantress Buff:
Can also repel people as well (There may not be an enchantress) 2B yen
Might be a good purchase in the end game.

Escort Buff:
Has a one-time use ability where she can choose who to block during the day and chat with that person during the night. (There may not be an escort) 3B yen
Seems like a bad purchase imo because of benefits and the associated cost.

Whore Buff:
Give em another charge of whorin' (There may not be a whore) 2B yen
Would be helpful if there is a whore who has used up charges (won't be necessary until later).

Vengeful Buff:
Person they take with them doesn't have to be someone who voted them (There may not be a vengeful) 3B yen
I assume mafia would help hammer the vengeful, so I'm not sure how this helps at all.

Bodyguard Buff:
Instead of dying and taking someone with them, they can intercept a shot and redirect it to someone of their choice (Will affect death type) (There may not be a bodyguard) 2.5B yen
I don't really understand this one. Does the bodyguard die if they are buffed? Does the attacker still die if the bodyguard is buffed?

Multi-Lynch Day:
Buy a day of multiple lynches where you can lynch two people instead of one! 7.5B yen!
Very good purchase! I think we should try to save up for this.

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List of things I would like to Buy (not today, ofc):
Closed Role List(Common) - 5B yen
Graveyard Information - 3B yen
Detective Buff - 2B yen
Lookout Buff - 3.5B yen

Save for:
Mayor Buff - 1.5B yen
Sheriff Buff - 2B yen
Multi-Lynch Day - 7.5B yen!

[AppleyNO]

-vote open role list
That's like auto win :)

Mafia cant kill until night 2....
We can get more moneyz.

[AppleyNO]

List of things I would like to Buy (not today, ofc):
Closed Role List(Common) - 5B yen
Graveyard Information - 3B yen
Detective Buff - 2B yen
Lookout Buff - 3.5B yen

Save for:
Mayor Buff - 1.5B yen
Sheriff Buff - 2B yen
Multi-Lynch Day - 7.5B yen!

IMO, this is a very good list of stuff. Depending on how Deathfire answers Glip's question we could save out money until Day three and be able to buy a lot of this stuff at once.
I see you didn't add the invest pairing to your list to save. I think we need so have some money on reserve for it.

[Blazer]

Clem is being too smart again....$5 she dies N1. If not shes scum.

(brings back memories)

[AppleyNO]

Clem is being too smart again....$5 she dies N1. If not shes scum.

(brings back memories)

It does.
People can't die night 1.

[Blazer]

It does.
People can't die night 1.

It's a joke >.>

[AppleyNO]

It's a joke >.>

You know what, Blazer, only scum joke around like that!
-Unvote Duzero
-Vote Blazer
Im now SURE Duzero is a doctor or a Bodyguard, that is the only reason he would have visited you twice!

[Blazer]

You know what, Blazer, only scum joke around like that!
-Unvote Duzero
-Vote Blazer
Im now SURE Duzero is a doctor or a Bodyguard, that is the only reason he would have visited you twice!

I am the bodyguard. I was framed.
"I am blackmailed."

[AppleyNO]

I am the bodyguard. I was framed.
"I am blackmailed."

Oh well in that case
-unvote Blazer
-Vote Duzero
Duzero is probably the Framailer.

[Blazer]

Oh well in that case
-unvote Blazer
-Vote Duzero
Duzero is probably the Framailer.

Yes.
"I am blackmailed."

[SirBlayzalot]

I have to disagree with Clem... I think that a full open list is the best way to catch mafia in bad claims... also, can we buy items in PM's?

cause I suggest all roles, invest, vigil etc... buy their buffs in PM's so it's not giving away their role...

I suggest a citizen grab the open list tomorrow... seeing how they don't need to buy a buff for their role...

This is what I suggest: Citizens should buy
Open Role List
Graveyard Information
Death Types
tomorrow at some point... and then all town PR buy their buffs...
do buffs last all game or only for the night?

I think by doing this we could fish out scum within a couple days no problem... with the type of buffs that are available, this should be a very easy game if played right...

[SirBlayzalot]

also if you can buy items in PM's, will it be known to the person if someone else has already bought that object so they dont buy the same thing twice?

[Sumikoko]

SirBlayzalot, the 10B is a collective town property. There is no personal purchases. All purchases must be voted and agreed to by the town, or else town would be super hax with all the PRs buying what they need themselves.

Do similar things stack? Such as, if we buy a closed role list for 5B and then decide later we want the open role list, do we have to pay 9B or just tack on the 4B extra?

The OP-ness of the role list is, that it'd reveal Mafia roles typically claimed for town roles. If there were claimed investigator and escorts, and you open the role list and find that there are no escorts/whores or investigators, then you know immediately that they're Mafia.

[AppleyNO]

If we buy a closed role list, will it come with the possible hidden town/mafia roles, or is it purchasable item later in the game?

[Goremancer]

This is quite inconvenient that we don't know the power roles. The town can't buy that many things because of the risk of squandering the money on power roles. Perhaps some power roles that would really benefit from the buff should roleclaim tomorrow?

Btw sumi, this brings back memories.
http://toothseekers.forumotion.com/

[AppleyNO]

This is quite inconvenient that we don't know the power roles. The town can't buy that many things because of the risk of squandering the money on power roles. Perhaps some power roles that would really benefit from the buff should roleclaim tomorrow?

Btw sumi, this brings back memories.
http://toothseekers.forumotion.com/
I wouldn't want the town PR to claim, that just makes them target #1, why do you want to have them to claim, anyway?

[Goremancer]

Because then we would know what to buy. It's just a thought. Plus, with some claims on the table, the lookouts/doctors can have a priority on who they should heal/watch.

[Glip]

The first post states that we would be able to buy the use of last wills, but in the second post, there is no listing for a last will purchase.

Did you forget to add "Last Wills" to the list of potential purchases? Or are they already unlocked or not allowed?

If we do need to purchase the use of last wills, I would suggest that this be top priority on our buys and that we buy this tomorrow, if nothing else. Not only would this allow the PR's to give us any information they had when they die, but if we agree to have every towny make a last will and state their role in it, we might be able to get away with not purchasing a graveyard at all, or atleast putting off the purchase until later when it is needed to confirm role claims.

...I had another question, but I forgot what it was. More on the story later, once I remember.

[Glip]

Whoa, new thought.

The second post specifies that these are just the options that are available day 1, and I see in the setup that it says that every morning you will offer a list of options.

Will there be different purchases that we have access to on future days?

Will we lose access to some or all of the purchases that are available today if we do not purchase them today?

May people submit last wills before they are purchased, but simply have them not revealed until they have been purchased?

[oranges]

I agree with holding off on buying anything for now, especially with all the unanswered questions. Once we get some answers though, I think last wills (if it becomes available) or graveyard would be the place to start.

[Glip]

Are you going to create a FAQ thread to log these questions and our answers, or is that going to be one of our future purchases?

If a FAQ thread ends up having to be one of our purchases, I would not suggest we buy it. We can simply keep track of the questions and answers ourselves. Heck, we could create our own FAQ thread.

Why is it called a FAQ thread, and not a Q&A thread, which seems more appropriate?

[Fatalis]

Hmm I guess you guys are right
-unvote

[Sumikoko]

Why is it called a FAQ thread, and not a Q&A thread, which seems more appropriate?

:p I think it's just a habit that's passed down from previous FMs. I assume this is because some questions that were not stated by the host were asked via PM or something so many times that the host got annoyed and made a FAQ thread. And the tradition has just passed down ever since.

[Deathfire123]

If we purchase the graveyard after people have already died, will they and their roles be revealed?

If yes, perhaps we could put off buying anything until day 3 to gain even more cash.

nope. People who died before you buy the graveyard will never be shown unless a coroner checks em

[Deathfire123]

Investigator Buff:
Detects exact role. (There may not be an investigator) 5.5B yen
Does this also apply to consigs? I would rather not buy this if it gives mafia a buff, too.


Bodyguard Buff:
Instead of dying and taking someone with them, they can intercept a shot and redirect it to someone of their choice (Will affect death type) (There may not be a bodyguard) 2.5B yen
I don't really understand this one. Does the bodyguard die if they are buffed? Does the attacker still die if the bodyguard is buffed?


Invest: Only for town invest

BG: Neither die, its like the bg was given a gun and can shoot whoever he wants (he has to shoot though)

[Deathfire123]

I have to disagree with Clem... I think that a full open list is the best way to catch mafia in bad claims... also, can we buy items in PM's?

cause I suggest all roles, invest, vigil etc... buy their buffs in PM's so it's not giving away their role...

I suggest a citizen grab the open list tomorrow... seeing how they don't need to buy a buff for their role...

This is what I suggest: Citizens should buy
Open Role List
Graveyard Information
Death Types
tomorrow at some point... and then all town PR buy their buffs...
do buffs last all game or only for the night?

I think by doing this we could fish out scum within a couple days no problem... with the type of buffs that are available, this should be a very easy game if played right...

Votes for certain items can be made private, and if so, I will reflect that in the vote tally

Buffs last the entire game, but, I never said all the same buffs will be available every day ;)

[Deathfire123]

SirBlayzalot, the 10B is a collective town property. There is no personal purchases. All purchases must be voted and agreed to by the town, or else town would be super hax with all the PRs buying what they need themselves.

Do similar things stack? Such as, if we buy a closed role list for 5B and then decide later we want the open role list, do we have to pay 9B or just tack on the 4B extra?

The OP-ness of the role list is, that it'd reveal Mafia roles typically claimed for town roles. If there were claimed investigator and escorts, and you open the role list and find that there are no escorts/whores or investigators, then you know immediately that they're Mafia.


Role Lists WILL subtract the cost for more expensive ones, however, they may not be available every day, I offered everything since it's day 1. Day 2 will be different

[Deathfire123]

If we buy a closed role list, will it come with the possible hidden town/mafia roles, or is it purchasable item later in the game?

The possible role list is in the setup approval page

[AppleyNO]

The possible role list is in the setup approval page

*facepalm* Thanks

[Deathfire123]

Whoa, new thought.

The second post specifies that these are just the options that are available day 1, and I see in the setup that it says that every morning you will offer a list of options.

Will there be different purchases that we have access to on future days?

Will we lose access to some or all of the purchases that are available today if we do not purchase them today?

May people submit last wills before they are purchased, but simply have them not revealed until they have been purchased?

yes sort of(some might be available, some might not be) yes

[Deathfire123]

Are you going to create a FAQ thread to log these questions and our answers, or is that going to be one of our future purchases?

If a FAQ thread ends up having to be one of our purchases, I would not suggest we buy it. We can simply keep track of the questions and answers ourselves. Heck, we could create our own FAQ thread.

Why is it called a FAQ thread, and not a Q&A thread, which seems more appropriate?

FAQ is a general term.

And if I end up not being lazy I'll probably make one

[Fatalis]

Awkward moment when I'm the only one constantly checking every 30 minutes

[AppleyNO]

I am nervous that we might lose some stuff tomorrow.

[Duzero]

If full role list is still available tomorrow we should buy it then. Then scum has nowhere to hide.

[Glip]

Well, I'd make a motion that we buy the graveyard today so we don't risk losing access to it tomorrow and then never knowing who died the next night, but I don't think there's enough time left in the day for everyone to get on and vote to buy it.

-vote buy Graveyard Information

[clementine]

If full role list is still available tomorrow we should buy it then. Then scum has nowhere to hide.

I think we should buy a closed role list when people start claiming roles, and then upgrade to the open role list to sort out any CC's.

I agree with Glip's reasoning on buying the graveyard while we can since it might not be an option tomorrow.
-vote buy Graveyard

[Duzero]

Agreed, since it's pretty crucial.

-vote buy Graveyard

[AppleyNO]

Well, Im going to follow the lead of Clementine and Glip...

-Vote buy Graveyard

[Goremancer]

-Vote buy Graveyard

Following the trend can't hurt :)

[Deathfire123]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9896cYPaFf0

It's time for you to head to your homes, saviours

In the morning I expect you all to be more decisive in your fight against the terrorism in our world.

Noblesse Oblige.

I pray for your continuing service as a saviour.

[Deathfire123]

To anyone trying to PM me, you can now, my inbox is empty

[Deathfire123]

Day 2 will be delayed for a couple hours for some host problems

[Deathfire123]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us09i_eJ_Gc

The town awoke to a beautiful sunrise. There was no sign of any terrorism and the beautiful rays shone, illumination the city.

However, they knew this beautiful light wouldn't last forever, so they rushed to the town hall to continue what they began yesterday.

"Hello, my this is Juiz.

Your funds from yesterday have grown. You now have 16 Billion yen to spend. However, some of your choices have been limited.

Noblesse Oblige, I pray for your continuing service as a saviour."

Your available perks today:

Multi-Lynch Day:
Buy a day of multiple lynches where you can lynch two people instead of one! 7.5B yen!

Investigator Buff:
Detects exact role. (There may not be an investigator) 5.5B yen

Enchantress Buff:
Can also repel people as well (There may not be an enchantress) 2B yen

Whore Buff:
Give em another charge of whorin' (There may not be a whore) 2B yen

Doctor Buff:
Can protect person from all deaths, not just one attack (There may not be a doctor) 2.5B yen

Open Role List:
Shows every single role in the game. 9B yen

Lookout Buff:
Can see everyone who visits someone and what actions were performed on that person (There may not be a lookout) 3.5B yen

Death Types:
Shows how a person died(by mafia/by vigilante/etc.) 2B yen

Bodyguard Buff:
Instead of dying and taking someone with them, they can intercept a shot and redirect it to someone of their choice (Will affect death type) (There may not be a bodyguard) 2.5B yen

Vengeful Buff:
Person they take with them doesn't have to be someone who voted them (There may not be a vengeful) 3B yen

You will get half of your available buffs every day from now own, rounding down, chosen by random.org

Continue with Day 2

[Blazer]

Will the interest stay at 60%?

[Deathfire123]

Will the interest stay at 60%?

Unless it gets really low, then yes. If it gets really low, you'll get a little more than 60%

[clementine]

It's a shame we didn't organize to buy the graveyard in time yesterday since its not offered today. I guess the only thing I would want to buy off of this list is the full role list so then we would know what buffs to buy without people needing to reveal. However like I mentioned earlier this removes doctor WIFOM possibilities if we turn out not to have protective roles.

Any thoughts? Nothing happened to me last night.

[Capitalier]

I'd like a role list for my notekeeping purposes, so I'll vote for the only available one. Sorry, darlings.

-vote buy Open Role List

[CmG]

Yo hey guys! I am back from the weekend. Gz for failing at the grave yard yesterday. I hope it will be offered in the upcomming days. I agree on the purchase of the Roles list for once. Since i for one like to know what i am dealing with. Also buying the deathtype description seems like a no brainer to me.

Well an open role list has its drawbacks as well. We get the scum rolelists pinned down but they also get the whole town roles on a silver platter. Also we don't know how their perks look like. Maybe they have some perks which let them fake roles on that list. I don't know.

[CmG]

Cheap and no draw backs.


-vote buy open death notes.

[Capitalier]

Cheap and no draw backs.


-vote buy open death notes.

I'd really prefer to buy the open role list, and only that, otherwise we'd lose substantial amounts of interest by reducing our pot by such.

And ... on scum perks, is it not possible that they could buy their own open role list?

[Blazer]

-vote open roles list

I don't think anything else is worth purchasing yet.

I received no feedback messages.

[Blazer]

I'd really prefer to buy the open role list, and only that, otherwise we'd lose substantial amounts of interest by reducing our pot by such.

And ... on scum perks, is it not possible that they could buy their own open role list?

Officially asking.

Also I don't see the point in death types...I mean there's just the mafia and no neutrals. The only other role would be vigilante..or I guess bodyguard too. But that would be shown in how many people die. It's not like we have to pin a serial killer or other killer type.

[CmG]

The interest drops but not the pot. In the end we get more money out if we don't buy that much today. Death notes pretty much tell us if a Mafioso, vigilante, Bodyguard or somebody else did the kill. It is a solid piece of information which only benefits town.

[Capitalier]

The interest drops but not the pot. In the end we get more money out if we don't buy that much today. Death notes pretty much tell us if a Mafioso, vigilante, Bodyguard or somebody else did the kill. It is a solid piece of information which only benefits town.

7 * 1.6 = 11.2 - 7 = 4.2
5 * 1.6 = 8 -5 = 3

We lose 1.2 billion in interest if we make that purchase. This effectively reduces our buying power by a purchase a day, since most purchases are 2 to 2.5 billion. (The median price fact is also an argument against randomly saving tons of money, since we'd also only gain 2 purchases if we didn't buy the open role list.)

[Glip]

Bah, I just knew he was gunna be a jerk like that and not offer us the graveyard today.

Well, all is not lost. Deathfire said that we can submit last wills before last wills have been purchased, and that they will be revealed once last wills are purchased.

Therefore, I urge everyone to submit a last will NOW that states what your role is. There will likely only be town deaths tonight, so we should be able to safely rule out a mafia faking his last will.

With any luck, the graveyard and last wills will be offered tomorrow, and we'll be in relatively the same place as if we'd bought the graveyard yesterday, just with even more money. That's if everyone that dies tonight submits a last will with their role in it.

I don't see much point in buying anything that is offered to us today.

[AppleyNO]

I do think that having a role list is beneficial.

-Vote Buy Open Role List

[Blazer]

Bah, I just knew he was gunna be a jerk like that and not offer us the graveyard today.

Well, all is not lost. Deathfire said that we can submit last wills before last wills have been purchased, and that they will be revealed once last wills are purchased.

Therefore, I urge everyone to submit a last will NOW that states what your role is. There will likely only be town deaths tonight, so we should be able to safely rule out a mafia faking his last will.

With any luck, the graveyard and last wills will be offered tomorrow, and we'll be in relatively the same place as if we'd bought the graveyard yesterday, just with even more money. That's if everyone that dies tonight submits a last will with their role in it.

I don't see much point in buying anything that is offered to us today.

There are no last wills.

[Blazer]

Bah, I just knew he was gunna be a jerk like that and not offer us the graveyard today.

Well, all is not lost. Deathfire said that we can submit last wills before last wills have been purchased, and that they will be revealed once last wills are purchased.

Therefore, I urge everyone to submit a last will NOW that states what your role is. There will likely only be town deaths tonight, so we should be able to safely rule out a mafia faking his last will.

With any luck, the graveyard and last wills will be offered tomorrow, and we'll be in relatively the same place as if we'd bought the graveyard yesterday, just with even more money. That's if everyone that dies tonight submits a last will with their role in it.

I don't see much point in buying anything that is offered to us today.

nvm i just read it. lol

[Capitalier]

Bah, I just knew he was gunna be a jerk like that and not offer us the graveyard today.

Well, all is not lost. Deathfire said that we can submit last wills before last wills have been purchased, and that they will be revealed once last wills are purchased.

Therefore, I urge everyone to submit a last will NOW that states what your role is. There will likely only be town deaths tonight, so we should be able to safely rule out a mafia faking his last will.

With any luck, the graveyard and last wills will be offered tomorrow, and we'll be in relatively the same place as if we'd bought the graveyard yesterday, just with even more money. That's if everyone that dies tonight submits a last will with their role in it.

I don't see much point in buying anything that is offered to us today.

Why don't you feel like buying the open role list?

Edit: I removed something stupid, *8:39 pm.

[Glip]

Why don't you feel like buying the open role list?

Edit: I removed something stupid, *8:39 pm.

1. It's super expensive.

2. It gives the mafia more information than it gives us.

3. It may be available later and would give us just as much information then as it would now, just then it would be more useful.

The only thing I think we may want to buy today is the Investigator buff, because apparently, if we even have one right now, he doesn't even know what the investigation pairings are, so he's absolutely useless. Giving him exact role will allow him to start getting some real information and we can crack down on the mafia.

[Capitalier]

1. It's super expensive.

2. It gives the mafia more information than it gives us.

3. It may be available later and would give us just as much information then as it would now, just then it would be more useful.

The only thing I think we may want to buy today is the Investigator buff, because apparently, if we even have one right now, he doesn't even know what the investigation pairings are, so he's absolutely useless. Giving him exact role will allow him to start getting some real information and we can crack down on the mafia.

1. Not really, we still get substantial interest if we buy it.

2. Not necessarily, as a. we don't know if the mafia could potentially buy it yet, and b. a private group ultimately has more information and honest collaboration.

3. It could be, but I don't like to gamble that much.

I'll be back later.

[Glip]

1. Not really, we still get substantial interest if we buy it.

2. Not necessarily, as a. we don't know if the mafia could potentially buy it yet, and b. a private group ultimately has more information and honest collaboration.

3. It could be, but I don't like to gamble that much.

I'll be back later.

1. I'm talking the difference between having 11.2b yen tomorrow and having 25.6b yen tomorrow. Remember that a purchase costs us not only what is on the price tag, but also in the lost income from the interest on our remaining cash.

2. You're talking about spending 14.4b yen on a roles list that will give the mafia more information than it does us because "We don't know if they can buy it on their own?" Yeah no. I'm not going for that.

3. Depending on how exactly Deathfire does the random.org selection process, it has roughly a 50% chance of being available every day from now on. The probability of it being available again within just the next 2 days is then roughly 75%. That's damn good odds, especially for something I'm not even sure we want to buy in the first place.

[Sumikoko]

If purchased, when do the actual item start taking effect?

Such as, when the item has sufficient votes right now, will it be released immediately, or will it be released at the end of the day?

[Capitalier]

If purchased, when do the actual item start taking effect?

Such as, when the item has sufficient votes right now, will it be released immediately, or will it be released at the end of the day?


They will be released immediately, I asked Deathfire privately.

[Phyr]

Hello everybody.
As Goremancer is unavailable due to a little favor granted by a mod, I'm stepping in for him.
There are a some things I'd like to comment on.

1)There are no neutrals. So everybody that is not Mafia is Town. It isn't helpful to look scummy because the Mafia knows exactly that you are Town trying to look scummy in order to not get killed. Thus let's all try to be very productive in helping each other and weeding out scum. I implore you to not lurk.

2)As the open roles list is still an option today, but not the graveyard information, I suggest a role claim day. And I suggest role claiming BEFORE we buy the roles list. The Mafia doesn't know our roles (expect for the pretty much guaranteed Citizens). Forcing them to claim a role might make the lynch today into a no-brainer. Plus we have a good idea about the role of someone dying next night as we can't buy the graveyard.
As for role-claiming, I'd like those who didn't vote for the graveyard yesterday to claim first. Following the list of players that DID vote:
Glip, Clementine, Duzero, AppleyNO, Goremancer (Phyr)

Do not keep voting for the Open Roles List right now. If we buy it, we should make the most out of it by combining it with a mass role claim.


My opinion on all the perks:
Simple Role List:
Shows how many town vs. non-town. 2B yen
Okay for a first look on how the distribution is. I'm leaning towards 9vs4.

Closed Role List(Common):
Shows how many power roles vs. how many mafia power roles. 5B yen
Will reveal if the Mafia got a Mafioso. Not very helpful in my opinion.

Open Role List:
Shows every single role in the game. 9B yen
This is the real deal. It is super strong, but must be used with care.

Graveyard Information:
Shows who died and what role the person was in the graveyard. 3B yen
A must buy. We might not have a Coroner and every kill without this peak is actually a clean.

Investigation Results:
Shows the pairings that an investigator or consigliere would get when they check someone (be warned neither might be in the game). 5B yen
Buy only AFTER somebody claims Investigator and reveals result. Probably better to not buy at all.

Death Types:
Shows how a person died(by mafia/by vigilante/etc.) 2B yen
Not very helpful. A waste for money.

Mayor Buff:
Give the mayor an extra vote when claimed (There may not be a mayor)(This also works for doublevoter) 1.5B yen
Situational. Buy only to break a tie.

Doctor Buff:
Can protect person from all deaths, not just one attack (There may not be a doctor) 2.5B yen
Two attacks on the same player are unlikely to happen. Not worth the money.

Sheriff Buff:
Tell the sheriff which type he is. (There may not be a sheriff or misinformed sheriff) 2B yen
On the meh side of the perks. Situational.

Vigilante Buff:
The Vigilante can give away one of his two guns. (There may not be a vigilante) 3.5B yen
If this adds a kpn/shot instead of shifting it, this might actually be a worthwhile buy.

Investigator Buff:
Detects exact role. (There may not be an investigator) 5.5B yen
Depends on the investigation pairings. Probably not worth the cost.

Coroner Buff:
Results are directly transmitted to the town via the Opening post. (There may not be a coroner) 4B yen
Waste of money, if the graveyard information was bought (which is actually less expensive).

Detective Buff:
Can see who the person that they follow visits and who the person that was visited by the person they followed visits as well (There may not be a detective) 2B yen
Actually two trackings if you hit a PR. A buy to consider.

Lookout Buff:
Can see everyone who visits someone and what actions were performed on that person (There may not be a lookout) 3.5B yen
This is awesomesauce. Really strong, if the open roles list wasn't bought.

Enchantress Buff:
Can also repel people as well (There may not be an enchantress) 2B yen
Meh. Not worth the cost.

Escort Buff:
Has a one-time use ability where she can choose who to block during the day and chat with that person during the night. (There may not be an escort) 3B yen
Prevents the possibility to block a Mafia kill. What's the point then?

Whore Buff:
Give em another charge of whorin' (There may not be a whore) 2B yen
Not a fan.

Vengeful Buff:
Person they take with them doesn't have to be someone who voted them (There may not be a vengeful) 3B yen
Not anywhere near worth the money.

Bodyguard Buff:
Instead of dying and taking someone with them, they can intercept a shot and redirect it to someone of their choice (Will affect death type) (There may not be a bodyguard) 2.5B yen
This is actually really strong. Me gusta. Buy if we have one.

Multi-Lynch Day:
Buy a day of multiple lynches where you can lynch two people instead of one! 7.5B yen!
Strong. Comes in very handy, if Town is close to loosing.

Last Wills:
You can use em 3.5B yen
Totally worth the money.

[Capitalier]

1. I'm talking the difference between having 11.2b yen tomorrow and having 25.6b yen tomorrow. Remember that a purchase costs us not only what is on the price tag, but also in the lost income from the interest on our remaining cash.

2. You're talking about spending 14.4b yen on a roles list that will give the mafia more information than it does us because "We don't know if they can buy it on their own?" Yeah no. I'm not going for that.

3. Depending on how exactly Deathfire does the random.org selection process, it has roughly a 50% chance of being available every day from now on. The probability of it being available again within just the next 2 days is then roughly 75%. That's damn good odds, especially for something I'm not even sure we want to buy in the first place.

1. I'm well aware of that, and I addressed it in early posts as being negligible.

2. You have not quantified how it gives the mafia "more information". Let me guess, you're going to piggyback on clementine's former criticism, which she has now partially retracted?

3. You're assuming that he is using random.org to determine what's on sale.

[Capitalier]

Hello everybody.
As Goremancer is unavailable due to a little favor granted by a mod, I'm stepping in for him.
There are a some things I'd like to comment on.

1)There are no neutrals. So everybody that is not Mafia is Town. It isn't helpful to look scummy because the Mafia knows exactly that you are Town trying to look scummy in order to not get killed. Thus let's all try to be very productive in helping each other and weeding out scum. I implore you to not lurk.

2)As the open roles list is still an option today, but not the graveyard information, I suggest a role claim day. And I suggest role claiming BEFORE we buy the roles list. The Mafia doesn't know our roles (expect for the pretty much guaranteed Citizens). Forcing them to claim a role might make the lynch today into a no-brainer. Plus we have a good idea about the role of someone dying next night as we can't buy the graveyard.
As for role-claiming, I'd like those who didn't vote for the graveyard yesterday to claim first. Following the list of players that DID vote:
Glip, Clementine, Duzero, AppleyNO, Goremancer (Phyr)

Do not keep voting for the Open Roles List right now. If we buy it, we should make the most out of it by combining it with a mass role claim.



You want me to claim?

I'm Plato 2.0. I found someone who espouses dangerous heterosexual philosophy last night.

Does the full role list reveal cop sanity?

[Glip]

1. I'm well aware of that, and I addressed it in early posts as being negligible.

2. You have not quantified how it gives the mafia "more information". Let me guess, you're going to piggyback on clementine's former criticism, which she has now partially retracted?

3. You're assuming that he is using random.org to determine what's on sale.

1. 5.4b is not negligible.

2. Yes, I am piggybacking on clementine's former criticism.

3.
You will get half of your available buffs every day from now own, rounding down, chosen by random.org
Yes, I'm assuming that he is using random.org to determine what's on sale.

[Sumikoko]

They will be released immediately, I asked Deathfire privately.

Out of sheer curiosity, why ask this question privately and not share the information with town?

I am all for mass roleclaiming today and then buying the open role list. Would give scum nowhere to hide once they claim a role such as investigator and there were no investigators on the list, as well as help us better allocate our resources.

[Glip]

Out of sheer curiosity, why ask this question privately and not share the information with town?
This.

I am all for mass roleclaiming today and then buying the open role list. Would give scum nowhere to hide once they claim a role such as investigator and there were no investigators on the list, as well as help us better allocate our resources.
If we actually get everyone to agree to this plan, I'll go along with this. Otherwise, we'd just be losing some WIFOM protection for a few important roles.

[AppleyNO]

I would role claim with you guys. Who goes first?

[Glip]

I would role claim with you guys. Who goes first?

I will volunteer to go first if we get mass acceptance of this plan.

[Deathfire123]

Oh right, Duzero was replaced by Gingerape, Goremancer was replaced by Phyr, and I'm super close to replacing Bahkieh

[Glip]

Oh right, Duzero was replaced by Gingerape, Goremancer was replaced by Phyr, and I'm super close to replacing Bahkieh

Why was Duzero replaced? He's been unbanned.

[Deathfire123]

Why was Duzero replaced? He's been unbanned.

I replaced them because they were stupid enough to get banned while they were in my game.

[Glip]

I replaced them because they were stupid enough to get banned while they were in my game.

I don't know the specifics, but I believe Duzero was only banned as part of a joke, and that's why the ban has been revoked now. He didn't do anything banworthy, and I don't think he planned on being banned.

Oh well. You're the host. It's your decision.

[Sumikoko]

Is Day 24 or 48 hours? I was under the impression that it was 24 hours, but whatever.

Let's get this mass role claim rolling. I have one request, and that is to claim after Glip claims, simply because yes, I have information on you.

I also suggest someone keep track of the lynch for buying the open role list and hammer it as soon as everyone claims or if it's an hour before day ends. IF ANYONE HAMMERS BEFORE THEN, YOU ARE ON THE TOP LIST FOR BEING SCUM. Hopefully, if we find conflicting claims, we have a chance to lynch someone, but that doesn't seem too likely at the moment, unless everyone gets on within the next 12 hours. It'd be nice if someone could compile a list of the claimed roles too. Errands, anyone?

All players: You are expected to role claim after this post. If you do not before the end of the day, we will consider you scum and employ all of town's resources towards you.

[Capitalier]

Out of sheer curiosity, why ask this question privately and not share the information with town?

I am all for mass roleclaiming today and then buying the open role list. Would give scum nowhere to hide once they claim a role such as investigator and there were no investigators on the list, as well as help us better allocate our resources.
It was night when I asked. If you didn't notice, I also just claimed sheriff, baby.

[SirBlayzalot]

I think mass role claim and the buying the roles list is genius... we need everyone on board though for this to work out... I'm not trusting Capitaliers need to hide information, usually only mafia would ask questions in pm, unless he was asking about his specific role...

I doubt we will get consensus on this idea, because theres no way mafia would agree to it... I don't really care, my roles useless... or is it?... so everyone come online and get yo claim on

[Capitalier]

Is Day 24 or 48 hours? I was under the impression that it was 24 hours, but whatever.

Let's get this mass role claim rolling. I have one request, and that is to claim after Glip claims, simply because yes, I have information on you.

I also suggest someone keep track of the lynch for buying the open role list and hammer it as soon as everyone claims or if it's an hour before day ends. IF ANYONE HAMMERS BEFORE THEN, YOU ARE ON THE TOP LIST FOR BEING SCUM. Hopefully, if we find conflicting claims, we have a chance to lynch someone, but that doesn't seem too likely at the moment, unless everyone gets on within the next 12 hours. It'd be nice if someone could compile a list of the claimed roles too. Errands, anyone?

All players: You are expected to role claim after this post. If you do not before the end of the day, we will consider you scum and employ all of town's resources towards you. Fine, are you the other sheriff, Sumi? Give me your information on Glip, I have him as a guilty, and I checked him for asking useless questions in a guise to appear towny.

[SirBlayzalot]

I ask that Clementine claims after me if possible... not before

[Gingerape]

I just got here and i have to roleclaim!?
SHENANIGANS.

[Glip]

Is Day 24 or 48 hours? I was under the impression that it was 24 hours, but whatever.

Let's get this mass role claim rolling. I have one request, and that is to claim after Glip claims, simply because yes, I have information on you.

I also suggest someone keep track of the lynch for buying the open role list and hammer it as soon as everyone claims or if it's an hour before day ends. IF ANYONE HAMMERS BEFORE THEN, YOU ARE ON THE TOP LIST FOR BEING SCUM. Hopefully, if we find conflicting claims, we have a chance to lynch someone, but that doesn't seem too likely at the moment, unless everyone gets on within the next 12 hours. It'd be nice if someone could compile a list of the claimed roles too. Errands, anyone?

All players: You are expected to role claim after this post. If you do not before the end of the day, we will consider you scum and employ all of town's resources towards you.

If you have information on me, I would suggest that you claim first (after we get most of the town to agree to this plan, not now) and state your info. That way, rather than me claiming first and giving you a free out to fake your info, I would instead be confirming your claim.

[SirBlayzalot]

someone else has already claimed their info on you Glip

[Capitalier]

If you have information on me, I would suggest that you claim first (after we get most of the town to agree to this plan, not now) and state your info. That way, rather than me claiming first and giving you a free out to fake your info, I would instead be confirming your claim.
You will claim and determine my sanity.

[AppleyNO]

I claim
Citizen

[Sumikoko]

Fine, are you the other sheriff, Sumi? Give me your information on Glip, I have him as a guilty, and I checked him for asking useless questions in a guise to appear towny.

Still pending on his role claim first before I say anything.

I insist, Glip. I cannot foresee any situation where my night actions, no matter what role I am, can be used to forge a role claim based on what you claim. After all, you volunteered first to claim anyway, yes? I could have just kept my trap shut and let you role claim first either way. I just thought I'd say it to make sure you know someone is keeping tabs on your claim.

[SirBlayzalot]

kk I don't want to do this... but it'll give doctor a target and hopefully we can buy my buff and get this party started... but I am Investigator... and Clem is Escort/Consort/Whore... I suggest everyone claim now and hopefully I survive tomorrow xD

Edit: coloured Investigator to fit in :D

[Glip]

You will claim and determine my sanity.

Yes, however, my being town does not confirm you as an insane sheriff (or a misinformed one, whatever he's calling it). I want to hear if Sumi is another Sheriff or an Investigator, and if she is Investigator, what the result she got on me was.

I state that I am a Citizen, and that I offer myself up to be lynched today.

However, I would like to state that if Sumi is Investigator and also got a guilty verdict upon me, then my lynch will confirm Capitalier as a SANE sheriff, and that there is a framer in the game.

My questions weren't useless, Cappy :*(

[SirBlayzalot]

hmmm Scumilurko... if you are the other sheriff then it really doesnt matter if he claims first... because the other sheriff has claimed... unless your detective or lookout and trying to get him to say shitizen :P

[Phyr]

I'm still kinda busy reading Enclave night chat. But I will get my claim out of the way. I am Citizen. After finishing my read, I will compile the claims and perk votes and lynch votes.

[Sumikoko]

but I am Investigator...

Dang. If Glip claims what I think he'll claim, and I know my own role, town's going to completely dominate this game.


Okay... Upon seeing Glip's claim, he didn't claim what I thought he'd claim.

Are you sure about your claim, Glip? It does not match with my information about you.

[SirBlayzalot]

your information on him?.... unless you seen him visit someone... I doubt you are another invest.. and if you are the other sheriff it should make perfect sense.... you ask everyone else to claim Y U NO CLAIM

[Glip]

Dang. If Glip claims what I think he'll claim, and I know my own role, town's going to completely dominate this game.


Okay... Upon seeing Glip's claim, he didn't claim what I thought he'd claim.

Are you sure about your claim, Glip? It does not match with my information about you.

I am 100% certain that I am a Citizen. I could not have visited anyone last night. I did not receive any feedback messages last night. I am not a PR trying to wifom Citizen.

I suggest you lynch me. If you are an investigator or detective and received any result other than the citizen pairing or that I visited no one, then I have been framed, and this will confirm Cappy as a sane Sheriff.

I doubt any mafia would come out with fake claims to get a Citizen lynched.

I don't believe SirBlayz for a moment. Does the investigator still know what the pairings are, even though they haven't been bought yet? If no, then we should lynch Blayz for making an obvious false claim. If yes, then things start getting tricky...

[SirBlayzalot]

you doubt that anyone would fake claim citizen... but it makes perfect sense to fake claim invest and give your findings on someone that could easily counter claim them... you are a genius Glip xD

[Sumikoko]

By the way, there will be no retraction of role claims. Town PRs, please do not claim citizen and then later claim your real role, saying it's for protection.

Okay. Well.

I am the detective. I followed Glip last night and he visited Clementine.

Currently inspecting the possibility of Glip and Blayz on the same Mafia team, with Glip being the consig and Blayz in the same mafia as him.

[Glip]

you doubt that anyone would fake claim citizen... but it makes perfect sense to fake claim invest and give your findings on someone that could easily counter claim them... you are a genius Glip xD

I didn't say that I doubt anyone would fake claim citizen. I said that I doubt they would fake claim a PR with findings on a Citizen and attempt to get that Citizen lynched.

You're right. It doesn't make sense to fake claim invest and give your findings on someone that could easily counter claim them. This is why I don't believe that Sumi or Cappy are scum.

I only doubt you because I believed that because the Investigator Pairings aren't bought yet, then you shouldn't know the role pairings for what she can be, and would only receive a message along the lines of "Your target spends a lot of time with people at night." Depending on what Deathfire has to say about my previous question, I may reevaluate my assumptions.

[Glip]

By the way, there will be no retraction of role claims. Town PRs, please do not claim citizen and then later claim your real role, saying it's for protection.

Okay. Well.

I am the detective. I followed Glip last night and he visited Clementine.

Currently inspecting the possibility of Glip and Blayz on the same Mafia team, with Glip being the consig and Blayz in the same mafia as him.

Thank you. Please lynch me now to confirm that Cappy is sane, that there is a Framer, and that I and Blayz are not in the same mafia team.

[SirBlayzalot]

Welp... we got our first lead... there is no witch in game so that means either Glip is lying or Scumilurko is lying... and although I believe Scumi is lying because of her hesitation, the best bet would be to lynch Glip... because its better to lose citizen then town PR... but I have a funny feeling Scumi is lying through her teeth...

-Vote Glip

[SirBlayzalot]

also, if mafia was smart they would not target Glip... there are way better targets out there, that are more then likely to be checked day 1... like Clem for example... so I'mma call BS of framer

[Glip]

Welp... we got our first lead... there is no witch in game so that means either Glip is lying or Scumilurko is lying... and although I believe Scumi is lying because of her hesitation, the best bet would be to lynch Glip... because its better to lose citizen then town PR... but I have a funny feeling Scumi is lying through her teeth...

-Vote Glip

You pretty much guaranteed that she will be framed tonight if she's not mafia, so might as well not even bother to check her.

I stand by your assertion that it is best for the town to lynch me today.

If I can vote for myself, I shall.

-vote Glip

[Glip]

also, if mafia was smart they would not target Glip... there are way better targets out there, that are more then likely to be checked day 1... like Clem for example... so I'mma call BS of framer

The Framer's job is to determine who the investigative roles are going to target.

I sincerely doubt that both Cappy and Sumi would be mafia, and since then atleast one of them must be an investigative role that targeted me, the mafia did their job just fine.

[Sumikoko]

You're right. It doesn't make sense to fake claim invest and give your findings on someone that could easily counter claim them. This is why I don't believe that Sumi or Cappy are scum.

I only doubt you because I believed that because the Investigator Pairings aren't bought yet, then you shouldn't know the role pairings for what she can be, and would only receive a message along the lines of "Your target spends a lot of time with people at night." Depending on what Deathfire has to say about my previous question, I may reevaluate my assumptions.

Threat of consig still out there. But we'll know soon enough whether an invest is in the game or not. And if Blayz somehow gets confirmed and there is no escort/whore in the game, we can lynch Clem and be down one scum.

Investigators typically get an investigation pairing, so no red signals there for me from Blayz. Not yet at least.

However, Blayz, no sane Mafia member would claim detective, of all roles. It's a role that Mafia doesn't have, and hard as hell to duplicate. I'd either have to be extremely lucky, or I'd be outing my own Mafia members. So, no, if you were choosing between me and Glip to see who's lying, your bet goes to Glip first. However, I'm not willing to lynch Glip yet, because lynching him does not confirm Cap's alignment if he is paranoid.

Also, Blayz, how do you know there is no... witch? Because there is one... It's mafia aligned. Rut roh. Scum slip already? Consig? No witch on your team? Great.

[Sumikoko]

When a Mafia witch forces a visitation, will the witch's target receive a feedback message?

[SirBlayzalot]

it makes me wonder about both of them then... Scumilurko and Capitalier... why would you check Glip n1 out of all the people?

[Capitalier]

Thank you. Please lynch me now to confirm that Cappy is sane, that there is a Framer, and that I and Blayz are not in the same mafia team. Can a framer distort Detective and Lookout results? What about actresses?

I find it unusual that the framer managed fool two people at once, so I'd prefer an open role list to see if there actually is one.

[SirBlayzalot]

lmfao well I thought witch was neutral... keep scum hunting me though... it makes me feel all tingly ;)

[Glip]

it makes me wonder about both of them then... Scumilurko and Capitalier... why would you check Glip n1 out of all the people?

You can't seriously believe that two mafia members would come out with fake PR claims with guilty results on a Citizen?

[SirBlayzalot]

just wondering... like what are the odds... I checked Clem n1 because shes a really good mafia player... no offense to you glip... but their are a few people in this game that are better mafia players then both of us... I'd think theyd want to know what they are first... maybe thats my own logic... but they seem to be the best at WIFOMing around claims...

[Sumikoko]

Lol. Meta reasons are making me believe that a framer wouldn't target Glip the first night, but let's see what Desu says about my question.

[Sumikoko]

Uh. Nevermind guys. Deathfire just PMed me. He made a mistake. No worries.

Glip did not visit anyone. His claim checks out.

Alright, next.

[Glip]

just wondering... like what are the odds... I checked Clem n1 because shes a really good mafia player... no offense to you glip... but their are a few people in this game that are better mafia players then both of us... I'd think theyd want to know what they are first... maybe thats my own logic... but they seem to be the best at WIFOMing around claims...

Lol, no offense taken. I know I'm a horrible mafia player. Just look at my performance in any of my previous games and that's obvious.

I'm not sure if better players are always targeted first, though. For instance, in the Trollagy, I was killed off night 1. Yes, I was a doctor, but they had no way of knowing that yet. They targeted me, not the doctor.

[Glip]

Uh. Nevermind guys. Deathfire just PMed me. He made a mistake. No worries.

Glip did not visit anyone. His claim checks out.

Alright, next.

Deathfire, can you please confirm if you made a mistake in determining the results of last night's actions?

[SirBlayzalot]

Deathfire, can you please confirm if you made a mistake in determining the results of last night's actions?

This^... is very important at this point... itll determine whether Scumi is lying or now

[Glip]

This^... is very important at this point... itll determine whether Scumi is lying or now

Not only that, but if he says Yes, then it will confirm that Cappy is insane and that I wasn't framed, which would make more sense than the current situation.

[Sumikoko]

Lol, no offense taken. I know I'm a horrible mafia player. Just look at my performance in any of my previous games and that's obvious.

I'm not sure if better players are always targeted first, though. For instance, in the Trollagy, I was killed off night 1. Yes, I was a doctor, but they had no way of knowing that yet. They targeted me, not the doctor.

It's all very complicated. I don't think you're a bad player from what I've seen this game (and FMXIII). Mafia usually target old players first. Killing is complicated, because there could be lookouts and doctors stationed on your older players, so killing a relatively new player isn't a bad strategy for not getting caught.

As for Deathfire's PM... Lol. I don't know if he can answer that question simply because if he did, he'd be confirming my role. However, we're getting the open role list anyway, yes? I'm confident detective will be on the list of town PRs. The only possibility of me being Mafia is if I either guessed, and the angels love me, or I'm a consig that somehow investigated a detective (in which case I'd still have to guess from the investigation pairings) but wants to put the blame on Glip for no reason? Lol.

[SirBlayzalot]

well as it stands

-Unvote

[AppleyNO]

You cant unvote...

[AppleyNO]

Wait...
Im having comp problems, disregard :P

[SirBlayzalot]

wrong game bro...

[SirBlayzalot]

well we will ask if ANY of the night actions got messed up when sent through PM?

doesn't confirm anything... anyones actions coulda been incorrect... but if no ones was incorrect then theres only one conclusion :P

[AppleyNO]

Im having comp problems, as stated above.
Sorry :P

[Glip]

As for Deathfire's PM... Lol. I don't know if he can answer that question simply because if he did, he'd be confirming my role.
That is why I tried to word my question in such a way that he can answer it without flat-out saying that you are the Detective. All I asked was if he made a mistake in determining any of the results of last night's actions. Not necessarily if any of those results pertained to you. For all we know, perhaps he made some other mistake... >.>

[Sumikoko]

Lol, alright. If you say so. :p

[Deathfire123]

Deathfire, can you please confirm if you made a mistake in determining the results of last night's actions?

I can neither confirm nor deny this

[Glip]

I can neither confirm nor deny this

So what you're saying is, since you cannot confirm that any of the results that anyone received last night were the results that they should have gotten according to the rules of the game, then we might as well all quit now because everything is BS?

[SirBlayzalot]

are my results correct :-/ ?

[Glip]

Or perhaps he's caught in a bind because he didn't actually make any mistakes last night, so he can't say yes, but if he said no, it would be confirming that Sumi is lying about the PM from him stating that her results are wrong.

If he had made a mistake, he could just say yes, and it wouldn't confirm that Sumi is detective that got a wrong result. It would only confirm that he made a mistake. Nothing more.

For now, /suspicion on Sumi

[Deathfire123]

So what you're saying is, since you cannot confirm that any of the results that anyone received last night were the results that they should have gotten according to the rules of the game, then we might as well all quit now because everything is BS?

You misunderstand. If I make a mistake, and I realize it, I will have PM'd the person I made a mistake for. However I can't just say I made a mistake, if someone wants to lie about me making a mistake, they can, it's not against the rules.

[Deathfire123]

I have double checked for everyone, all night action results are correct now, and may have always been correct. Who knows.

[Deathfire123]

Also, If Sumi posts something from a Skype chat with me, I asked her to because my internet is off and on atm. Witch targets do receive notifications, and framers mess up detectives and lookouts as well as any other investigative role.

[Glip]

You misunderstand. If I make a mistake, and I realize it, I will have PM'd the person I made a mistake for. However I can't just say I made a mistake, if someone wants to lie about me making a mistake, they can, it's not against the rules.

Hmph. Well regardless, I find it highly unlikely that you would accidentally tell a detective that I visited someone. I haven't even sent you any PM's this game, so I don't see how that could have been misconstrued.

I believed Sumi's detective claim more before she said Deathfire made a mistake.

[Sumikoko]

So what you're saying is, since you cannot confirm that any of the results that anyone received last night were the results that they should have gotten according to the rules of the game, then we might as well all quit now because everything is BS?Relax, guys lol. Just a small error. He thought I followed someone else, probably because my PM wasn't what I usually send him.

[Glip]

@Deathfire

You still haven't answered this question, so I'll ask it again with better wording.

Will an investigator receive role pairings in their night results, e.g. Escort/Consort/Whore, even though they haven't been bought yet?

[Glip]

Relax, guys lol. Just a small error. He thought I followed someone else, probably because my PM wasn't what I usually send him.

Lol, I'm fine. I was just trying to pressure him into responding with a yes or no. Oh well. Pro host avoided it.

[CmG]

Cap - sheriff/framer
AppleyNO - citizen/ gf
Sumikoko - detective / disguiser trolololo
Sirblayzalot - investigator/consigniere
Glip - citizen / gf
Clementine - escort/consort ?
Phyr - citizen / gf
CmG - citizen / gf


Too lazy for colours. I suggest that our protection roles hide under the cits?! Why exactly is mass roleclaim day 1 working in this game again? :o

[SirBlayzalot]

once we claim then we are buying ope roles list to fish out the scum

[CmG]

Oh and don't kill me like every fucking game THANK YOU!

[SirBlayzalot]

then start with the claiming plz...

-Vote CmG

for pressure until claim

[Glip]

then start with the claiming plz...

-Vote CmG

for pressure until claim

Psh, read the list he created. He claimed Citizen/GF.

[Sumikoko]

Secondary town goal: See That CmG lives till the end.:D

[SirBlayzalot]

lmfao derp

-Unvote

we need to start voting those who arent claiming for pressure

[CmG]

me gusta!

[Deathfire123]

@Deathfire

You still haven't answered this question, so I'll ask it again with better wording.

Will an investigator receive role pairings in their night results, e.g. Escort/Consort/Whore, even though they haven't been bought yet?

Investigative Role Pairings mean all the possible pairings will be revealed to the entire town so if a mafia faked them, the town could bust that on them.

[CmG]

Thats easy to counterclaim anyway. I wouldn't count too hard on this. First we should upgrade our protection roles without revealing them. Since those upgrades are rather cheap i would suggest we shoot some moneez out for a doc or a bg upgrade. The bg upgrade looks op for the price so i tend to think there is no bg. But since its adf game which are always imbalanced we could end up having 4 bgs...

[Glip]

Investigative Role Pairings mean all the possible pairings will be revealed to the entire town so if a mafia faked them, the town could bust that on them.

That's not what I asked. I asked if an investigator will receive an "Escort/Consort/Whore"-type feedback, or just a "Your target spends time with people at night."-type feedback.

Are you saying you can't answer this question directly either?

[Phyr]

There isn't a role explicitly immune to detection. Looking at those Godfathers in the listing. And were do you get those pairings from? Educated guesses?

Claims
Sheriff - Capitalier
Investigator - SirBlayzalot
Detective - Sumikoko
Citizen - AppleyNO, Glip, Phyr, CmG

Have yet to claim
Blazer, oranges, clementine, Bahkieh, Gingerape, Fatalis

Perk Votes
Open Role List (3): Capitalier, Blazer, AppleyNO
Death Types (1): CmG

Lynch Votes
Glip (1): Glip


Current Players List
Blazer
Glip
SirBlayzalot
AppleyNO
oranges
clementine
Bahkieh
Sumi
CmG
Capitalier
Gingerape
Phyr
Fatalis

I'll be sleeping now. Didn't manage to finish reading the Enclave night chat... See you later.

Addendum: Why vote the Death Description? They are awful considering the costs.

[Fatalis]

Hellouu
Just got home from school school school
-vote Graveyard

Seriously, WE NEED TO BUY THE GRAVEYARD , WHAT IF IT DISSAPEARS?

[AppleyNO]

Hellouu
Just got home from school school school
-vote Graveyard

Seriously, WE NEED TO BUY THE GRAVEYARD , WHAT IF IT DISSAPEARS?
GY isn't purchasable today

[Fatalis]

No one have died yet?
Can you make le player list Deathfire

[Fatalis]

GY isn't purchasable today

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo
-unvote
-vote open role list

[AppleyNO]

No one have died yet?
Can you make le player list Deathfire

The Mafia can't kill until Night 2
Learn to read setup bro

[Fatalis]

The Mafia can't kill until Night 2
Learn to read setup bro

Derp
My bad

[Capitalier]

Derp
My bad

Make it your good by roleclaiming and voting to buy the open role list.

[Deathfire123]

That's not what I asked. I asked if an investigator will receive an "Escort/Consort/Whore"-type feedback, or just a "Your target spends time with people at night."-type feedback.

Are you saying you can't answer this question directly either?

oh then yes, they receive what possible roles they could be

[Fatalis]

Do you guys really think I will roleclaim
It help no one but scum, only them know who lied

[Capitalier]

Do you guys really think I will roleclaim
It help no one but scum, only them know who lied

You will claim.

[AppleyNO]

If everyone claims, we can buy the open role list and lynch off the mafia.

[AppleyNO]

If everyone claims, we can buy the open role list and lynch off the false claimers and people who CC.
Fix'd

[Gingerape]

I am Duzero. Did i claim on day 1? what role am I?

[AppleyNO]

Have yet to claim
Blazer, oranges, clementine, Bahkieh, Gingerape, Fatalis

Claim please!

[AppleyNO]

I feel that if anyone else claims citizen, the town would just have to lynch the Citizen claimers >.<

[clementine]

Hi everybody, just checking in before I sleep. I must admit I spent a good portion of this evening reading through the FM13 chats like Phyr! :P

I don't see how we can't win with the mass role claim and purchase of the open role list. Especially since we have already caught someone in a potential lie:

Sirblayzalot claims investigator and that I am escort/consort/whore
I am neither of those roles. I am a citizen.

What is happening here? There are a couple of options:
1. Sirblayzalot is investigator and I was framed. --> seems most likely, as I would expect to be a high traffic target.
2. Sirblayzalot is mafia and is pulling some kind of gambit. --> less likely, but also possible. Investigator is a very easy role to claim in this setup, especially since we are mass role claiming. I just don't know if a mafia investigator gambit in this scenario would be useful due to the impending open role list purchase.
3. Sirblayzalot is a citizen trying to pressure me. --> extremely unlikely as town has no incentive to lie.

Scum list:
Fatalis (acting like a jester, but no jesters in this setup)
Glip (argues against buying the open role list, also insists he was framed when presented with cap's results)
Sirblayzalot (pending what role list shows)
CmG (why does he push so hard for death descriptions when it's pretty much a useless purchase in a game with no neutrals)


I think our next course of action should be lynching claims that don't match up with the role list.

[CmG]

Trololol i didn't even start pushing in any direction. The day is still really early. Stop being scummy. Sirblayzalot called you out as escort, consort. So one of you definetly lies. What is the rest of you thinking about that?

[SirBlayzalot]

Hi everybody, just checking in before I sleep. I must admit I spent a good portion of this evening reading through the FM13 chats like Phyr! :P

I don't see how we can't win with the mass role claim and purchase of the open role list. Especially since we have already caught someone in a potential lie:

Sirblayzalot claims investigator and that I am escort/consort/whore
I am neither of those roles. I am a citizen.

What is happening here? There are a couple of options:
1. Sirblayzalot is investigator and I was framed. --> seems most likely, as I would expect to be a high traffic target.
2. Sirblayzalot is mafia and is pulling some kind of gambit. --> less likely, but also possible. Investigator is a very easy role to claim in this setup, especially since we are mass role claiming. I just don't know if a mafia investigator gambit in this scenario would be useful due to the impending open role list purchase.
3. Sirblayzalot is a citizen trying to pressure me. --> extremely unlikely as town has no incentive to lie.

Scum list:
Fatalis (acting like a jester, but no jesters in this setup)
Glip (argues against buying the open role list, also insists he was framed when presented with cap's results)
Sirblayzalot (pending what role list shows)
CmG (why does he push so hard for death descriptions when it's pretty much a useless purchase in a game with no neutrals)


I think our next course of action should be lynching claims that don't match up with the role list.

This is very interesting... strange how framers findings would be escort/whore/consort... considering 2/3 of them are town roles...

we need everyone else to claim before the roles list or else people will jus claim whats on the roles list... so far we have 5 cits claims.. so I'm guessin there is mafia among them

[CmG]

-does a witch gives feedback to the witched player?

[SirBlayzalot]

Trololol i didn't even start pushing in any direction. The day is still really early. Stop being scummy. Sirblayzalot called you out as escort, consort. So one of you definetly lies. What is the rest of you thinking about that?

I think when roles list comes.. if there is consort, we know who it is :P

[clementine]

I think when roles list comes.. if there is consort, we know who it is :P

I don't know, SirBlayzalot. You could be mafia on a team with a consort. Maybe you have a consort and a framer and picked me to frame as the escort/consort/whore. Who knows? I am anxious to see if indeed there is an investigator on the open role list. If there's not, you'll have a lot to answer for.

[Deathfire123]

-does a witch gives feedback to the witched player?

Yes it does, same result as an enchantress' target. also Framer's get to choose which mafia role the target will appear as to investigators

[Glip]

I still stand by my claim that you should lynch me to prove Cappy as the insane sheriff and Sumi as the det. Plus you'll cut down on the possible cits remaining.

It's about time we started getting that open roles list before we run out of time to buy it again.

-vote buy Open Roles List

[Fatalis]

Role claim will be my last resort
But I will tell you that It's for the best

[SirBlayzalot]

god damnit we need more claims.... alright

-Vote to buy open roles list

[SirBlayzalot]

so fatalis is fail mafia

-Vote Fatalis... lets get some pressure on her

[Glip]

Actually nevermind, we still have atleast 15 hours left in the day. I thought this day had been going on for longer. We can wait a while longer and get some more role claims.

-unvote

[Glip]

And also, Fatalis, please claim. The strategy we're going with only works if all the town members commit to it. If you fail to comply, you will be seen as scum, lynched, and then town will lose the game if you actually are town. Besides, by having revealed the fact that you don't want to reveal your role as it might make you a target, you have already made yourself a target. If you really are a role the maf wants to kill, they are already going to kill you tonight regardless.

-vote Fatalis

For pressure.

[Duzero]

-vote buy Open Role List

[Fatalis]

Sigh,
If town goes with this strategy then so be it
I CLAIM DOCTOR
I targetted Glip last night, part of the reason why I was asking whether anyone got killed

[SirBlayzalot]

-unvote

looking for the roles list without claiming Duzzy?

[SirBlayzalot]

-unvote

-Vote Duzero

[Glip]

This question was asked before, but never answered, so I'll again.

Will the Open Roles List distinguish between a regular Sheriff and a Misinformed Sheriff?

Also, is Duzero back in now? Or is he misinformed about himself being replaced?

[Glip]

Sigh,
If town goes with this strategy then so be it
I CLAIM DOCTOR
I targetted Glip last night, part of the reason why I was asking whether anyone got killed

Wow, apparently I'm really popular around here. Targeted by 3 different people on night 1, and not a single feedback message for me to show for it. So sad. :*(

[Fatalis]

We should buy open role list ASAP, it will give us time to heal who are suspected of being scum,

[clementine]

We need everyone to claim first.

[Duzero]

I honestly didn't think I would get banned lol. So am I replaced or not? I got no PM from deathfire about it.

[Fatalis]

omg I want to edit so badly
I said heal instead of lynch

[CmG]

omg I want to edit so badly
I said heal instead of lynch

keel! keel!

[Gingerape]

I honestly didn't think I would get banned lol. So am I replaced or not? I got no PM from deathfire about it.

Yes, I am you. But i only posted like twice so I would happily give you back your place if Deathfire allows it.

[Deathfire123]

This question was asked before, but never answered, so I'll again.

Will the Open Roles List distinguish between a regular Sheriff and a Misinformed Sheriff?

Also, is Duzero back in now? Or is he misinformed about himself being replaced?

no and him and ginger are sharing an account/role

[Deathfire123]

I honestly didn't think I would get banned lol. So am I replaced or not? I got no PM from deathfire about it.

I can't PM banned people

[GingerZero]

We are now one!

-unvote all previous votes from Duzero/Gingerape to avoid confusion.

Yes everyone should role claim before we buy the open role list, and to see how long time we got I wonder this:
Is the day 24 or 48 hours long?

[Glip]

And what about Goremancer? Are we going to have to deal with a GoremanPhyr now?

Also, Duzerape sounds better than GingerZero.

[Glip]

We are now one!

-unvote all previous votes from Duzero/Gingerape to avoid confusion.

Yes everyone should role claim before we buy the open role list, and to see how long time we got I wonder this:
Is the day 24 or 48 hours long?

You claim that everyone should role claim, but you conveniently haven't role claimed yet yourself. Might want to get on that, sonny.

[Fatalis]

We need more open role list votes... Don't waste a day role claiming and ending up with no lynch

[GingerZero]

And what about Goremancer? Are we going to have to deal with a GoremanPhyr now?

Also, Duzerape sounds better than GingerZero.

This is the low-fat and ban-safe version.

[GingerZero]

You claim that everyone should role claim, but you conveniently haven't role claimed yet yourself. Might want to get on that, sonny.

Was thinking about waiting a bit to lure scum into claiming citizen. But by claiming now some scum will probably just lurk and not claim and become easier targets.

We claim citizen.

[oranges]

I''ve been traveling so been keeping up with the thread as best I can, but I'm about to hop on a plane so I'll just follow the crowd for now (even though it's kind of a waste for me to reveal already)... On the plus side, if we need to lynch today I can help force that, at least.

I an the Mayor.

I vote to buy the open role list.

[Fatalis]

I''ve been traveling so been keeping up with the thread as best I can, but I'm about to hop on a plane so I'll just follow the crowd for now (even though it's kind of a waste for me to reveal already)... On the plus side, if we need to lynch today I can help force that, at least.

I an the Mayor.

I vote to buy the open role list.

I actually believe he is mayor

[Blazer]

Wow I missed a lot. Good plan with claiming, I'm citizen. Sorry I was polishing my name and got distracted from the game.

[Fatalis]

Hooray for Blazer now being a keeper

[Blazer]

Hooray for Blazer now being a keeper

Thanks ^^

[SirBlayzalot]

lolol kk thats what the 7th citizen claim... whos keeping track... someone not lazy like me should do up a list xD

[Phyr]

Someone called?

Claims
Sheriff - Capitalier
Investigator - SirBlayzalot
Detective - Sumikoko
Doctor - Fatalis
Mayor - oranges
Citizen - AppleyNO, Glip, Phyr, clementine, GingerZero, Blazer

Have yet to claim
Bahkieh

Perk Votes
Open Role List (5): Capitalier, Blazer, AppleyNO, Fatalis, oranges
Death Types (1): CmG

Lynch Votes
Fatalis (1): Glip
GingerZero (1): SirBlayzalot


Current Players List
Blazer
Glip
SirBlayzalot
AppleyNO
oranges
clementine
Bahkieh
Sumi
CmG
Capitalier
GingerZero
Phyr
Fatalis

My personal scum list:
Bahkieh - bc of the replacement thingy
CmG - bc trying to mislead town into wasting money and not answering my questions ;P
GingerZero - bc voting to buy open role list before claiming

So, how is your stance on buying the open role list now? We will probably need some time, if we have to sort through some mess.

[Fatalis]

We need to buy role list
We just exposed a whole lot of power roles
Mafia obviously knows which are the one who is not lying
Town on the other hand..

[Fatalis]

Phyr if you and sirblayz vote role list we can get it now

[Phyr]

Somehow I missed to post the first half of my post...

I wanted to suggest buying the open role list now, instead of waiting for Bahkieh. He seems to be away for a longer amount of time and I suspect him being Mafia as Deathfire considered replacing him. I guess he didn't show up to the Mafia night chat.
We will want to have an appropriate amount of time left to lynch somebody and decide if we buy some more perks.

[Fatalis]

Somehow I missed to post the first half of my post...

I wanted to suggest buying the open role list now, instead of waiting for Bahkieh. He seems to be away for a longer amount of time and I suspect him being Mafia as Deathfire considered replacing him. I guess he didn't show up to the Mafia night chat.
We will want to have an appropriate amount of time left to lynch somebody and decide if we buy some more perks.
I think the best move we can do is to lynch Bahkieh
We won't get any useful information/post anyway
-vote Bahkieh