S-FM 298: Third Line Butterfly

[BananaCucho]

Kira's fakeclaim play makes so much more sense now. Bus MM for that sweet towncred, then use it to mislynch me tomorrow

God damn

[BananaCucho]

Kira's fakeclaim play makes so much more sense now. Bus MM for that sweet towncred, then use it to mislynch me tomorrow

God damn

Which results in gg

[BananaCucho]

This game only allows one mislynch. That's pretty rough

[deathworlds]

Kira's fakeclaim play makes so much more sense now. Bus MM for that sweet towncred, then use it to mislynch me tomorrow

God damn

Ugh, the bussing play makes sense too in the timeline where you're scum. Forcing town into 1v1s with me and MM and you and real justice make sense from a scum perspective.
But no one could've predicted that MM would also be incriminated by the real Justice, whoever that may be, although I really, really want to believe you

[Light_Yagami]

Kira's fakeclaim play makes so much more sense now. Bus MM for that sweet towncred, then use it to mislynch me tomorrow

God damn

It Wont Be A Mislynch If We Lynch You. Like I Said U Might Fool The Rest Of The Town But You Will Never Fool Me.

[Light_Yagami]

Again As I Stated Scum Team Is MM Banana Confirmed Scum Then Varcron As The Third Based On Both MM And Bananas Busing Attempt. I Mean They Really From My POV Made It That Easy.

[BananaCucho]

Ugh, the bussing play makes sense too in the timeline where you're scum. Forcing town into 1v1s with me and MM and you and real justice make sense from a scum perspective.
But no one could've predicted that MM would also be incriminated by the real Justice, whoever that may be, although I really, really want to believe you

I had no intention of claiming today. I wanted to push for MM's lynch without revealing my role.

I was forced to cc by the fakeclaim

[Light_Yagami]

I will post my reasoning later behind why I think banana cuchi is the true justice and yigama is most likely actress as I have been studying their posts, but I have to get back to work. But here is my current reading:

town:
varcron
DW
banana cuchi
ninento DS


scum
Yigama/MM/Onegeko


Why onecoko to complete the scum triumvirate? He still doesn't even think MM is scum as of this post:



It is painfully obvious that MM is scum, and pages upon pages virtually confirming it due to the justice claim venn diagram overlap. Why is he refusing to acknowledge this?

U Really Need To Move Banana Down To Scum And Me Out Of There Man.. But Again I Lack The Level Of Tact Needed To Sway PPL To How I Think.

[Light_Yagami]

I had no intention of claiming today. I wanted to push for MM's lynch without revealing my role.

I was forced to cc by the fakeclaim

Man You Are Seething With Lies Upon Lies.

[deathworlds]

I had no intention of claiming today. I wanted to push for MM's lynch without revealing my role.

I was forced to cc by the fakeclaim

I am inclined to believe you, but I have to consider the possibility that we're in the cursed timeline were you are scum, which is an ugly possibility, I don't think it's likely, but it's a possibility from everyone elses PoV, except you and Light's.

[BananaCucho]

I am inclined to believe you, but I have to consider the possibility that we're in the cursed timeline were you are scum, which is an ugly possibility, I don't think it's likely, but it's a possibility from everyone else's PoV, except you and Light's.

Well, yeah. But I also should be looking at the possibility of you being scum as well. What if it's you and Kira and MM is town? And he (Kira) was never even bussing MM in the first place? We mislynch him and we lose, you and Kira coast to an easy victory here today because nobody is even considering the possibility of YOU being scum

-unvote

[BananaCucho]

I feel like this day has been so long but we still have more than 24 hours left right? Ugh looks like that reread of DW is gonna happen after all

[theoneceko]

Well I should be playing from my PoV, right?
Granted me vs MM is not confirmed for anyone other than myself atm, but it's the safest bet for myself.
I think the odds are that Light is lying, and that my proposed scenario of him checking you n0 directed by MM makes sense.
I don't think banana is scum.
I just find it hard to believe that MM would let himself get bussed by Light. What kind of bigbrain play was he thinking?

MM is Actress? uWu

[deathworlds]

It Wont Be A Mislynch If We Lynch You. Like I Said U Might Fool The Rest Of The Town But You Will Never Fool Me.

Light, regardless if you are scum or not, you need to work on your communication and critical thinking skills. If we mislynch you then that's a huge issue on your part, and if you're scum, then your doing a bad job at convincing us

[BananaCucho]

MM is Actress? uWu

This scenario doesn't exist and here's why. If MM flips green and the game doesn't end, we know that either MM or Irreverent was actress because if its 3v3 I'm pretty sure the game ends right there, town doesn't have a way to get 4 votes to lynch a mafia. So there's no need to make that play

They only need one mislynch, so their plan makes most sense as a) MM is bussed, Kira gets towncred to then turn around and mislynch me, or b) (backup plan) it backfires, Kira is lynched, he flips as justice, then I'm in turn mislynched next day and they win anyway

I don't see any scenario in which MM is actress if he's scum and DW is town

[Light_Yagami]

Light, regardless if you are scum or not, you need to work on your communication and critical thinking skills. If we mislynch you then that's a huge issue on your part, and if you're scum, then your doing a bad job at convincing us

I Think My Critical Thinking Is Just Fine.. Ill Agree My Communication Skills Need Work.

[theoneceko]

I'll vote MM if everyone agrees that if he flips green you are turbolynched next day. You agree to this? Cause I dont wanna get set up by you to get mislynched in MYLYO in case MM is town

I'm not DW, but I disagree with this. MM has acted pretty blatantly scummy. Especially after his attempt to scum-paint DS, which failed miserably. MM could be actress that wants to be lynched so town gets confused.

Also, I still don't like where you're trying to direct lynches. First on Revenant, now on DW? DW scumhunts hard and tunnels even harder, but he sheeped Gane who is confirmed town. You even said earlier that out of the "big 3" (DW/Gane/MM), MM is the scummiest.

[Light_Yagami]

But At The End Of The Day I Will Have Told The Truth And The Loss Wont Be On My Hands. If Town Looses..

[Light_Yagami]

I'm not DW, but I disagree with this. MM has acted pretty blatantly scummy. Especially after his attempt to scum-paint DS, which failed miserably. MM could be actress that wants to be lynched so town gets confused.

Also, I still don't like where you're trying to direct lynches. First on Revenant, now on DW? DW scumhunts hard and tunnels even harder, but he sheeped Gane who is confirmed town. You even said earlier that out of the "big 3" (DW/Gane/MM), MM is the scummiest.

He Cant Be Actress If He Is The Same Alignment As Banana And Different Then Ganelon. Ganelon Flip Town Meaning Banana And MM Same Alignment As Scum.

[theoneceko]

I'm still pissed at Ganelon. Bruh you played EOD yesterday so bad that it made me think you were scum, I hope you were actress and we find out that my read was solid because I still completely disagree with how you played that if you actually end up the town nurse

@Frinckles can Mafia kill their own teammate? If not, Ganelon was 100% nurse.

To be fair, Gane was one of my top scum reads too. Jumping trains and suggesting mass claim.

[deathworlds]

Well, yeah. But I also should be looking at the possibility of you being scum as well. What if it's you and Kira and MM is town? And he (Kira) was never even bussing MM in the first place? We mislynch him and we lose, you and Kira coast to an easy victory here today because nobody is even considering the possibility of YOU being scum

-unvote

I won't accept the possibility that MM isn't scum, because from my end it is MECHANICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. It doesn't help that MM has been null at best to almost everyone in the game, are you willing to accept that everything I've done has been scum motivated, and makes sense from a scum perspective? I've been nothing but honest in a game where scum are forced to lie to win

[theoneceko]

Justice is a confirmed role.

It's not confirmed that YOU are Justice though. Light counterclaimed you.

[BananaCucho]

I'm not DW, but I disagree with this. MM has acted pretty blatantly scummy. Especially after his attempt to scum-paint DS, which failed miserably. MM could be actress that wants to be lynched so town gets confused.

Also, I still don't like where you're trying to direct lynches. First on Revenant, now on DW? DW scumhunts hard and tunnels even harder, but he sheeped Gane who is confirmed town. You even said earlier that out of the "big 3" (DW/Gane/MM), MM is the scummiest.

First, this info is outdated because we realized we are already in MLYLO. If MM flips green, we lose.

Second, the reason I said this was because Kira fakeclaimed and I'm pretty sure its because Kira is actress and not MM. This is further expanded on here:

This scenario doesn't exist and here's why. If MM flips green and the game doesn't end, we know that either MM or Irreverent was actress because if its 3v3 I'm pretty sure the game ends right there, town doesn't have a way to get 4 votes to lynch a mafia. So there's no need to make that play

They only need one mislynch, so their plan makes most sense as a) MM is bussed, Kira gets towncred to then turn around and mislynch me, or b) (backup plan) it backfires, Kira is lynched, he flips as justice, then I'm in turn mislynched next day and they win anyway

I don't see any scenario in which MM is actress if he's scum and DW is town

As for directing lynches, what? Directing lynches? Directing a lynch onto DW? It's MYLYO and DW makes a good point, I have to consider all possibilities even though I've maintained all day that MM is the scummier of the two. Did you read my giant ass post (in a spoiler tag) analyzing MM's day 1? Have you read any of my posts today?

[BananaCucho]

It's not confirmed that YOU are Justice though. Light counterclaimed you.

Why are you being obtuse? "Justice is a confirmed role" is what I said to DS when DS asked if both Kira and myself could both be scum. The only way for that to be possible would be if a 3rd person claimed justice, since it's a confirmed role

[theoneceko]

scratch that, LVP of the century

What is LVP uWu

[Light_Yagami]

What is LVP uWu

Imma Assume Least Valuable Player.

[BananaCucho]

I won't accept the possibility that MM isn't scum, because from my end it is MECHANICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. It doesn't help that MM has been null at best to almost everyone in the game, are you willing to accept that everything I've done has been scum motivated, and makes sense from a scum perspective? I've been nothing but honest in a game where scum are forced to lie to win

Bro I legit told you over and over that I believe that you are town and MM is scum. But last game Punchy pocketed me, in my first game back Ducky pocketed me. I owe it to myself to look over your posts again because FMPOV, one of the two of you is scum and one is town, but it's not 100% confirmed for me which one is which

[theoneceko]

Yes, Me because of end of day train movements but before that I was town reading him.

To be fair I agree with Gane's decision to jump the Revenant train. NO ONE was defending Rev.

Unfortunately I didn't understand why Gane did this until d1 ended... I was gone for most of EOD :/

[theoneceko]

Light did not want to vote Vacron nor Rev yesterday which gives me pause because he voted MM almost in what could be seen as a bus statement because he was never getting lynched at that point and it allowed him to not decide between the wagons

Light voted DW, not MM.

[Light_Yagami]

Imma Do Something Else For Awhile. I Gave All Information I Could. As Best As I Could. Its Up To You Guys Like I Said Banana And MM Same Alignment Ganelon Different Then MM. MM And Banana Cant Be Actress Because Actress Always Come Up As Different Alignment. Ganelon Town Nurse Leaving MM And Banana As Scum.

[deathworlds]

Bro I legit told you over and over that I believe that you are town and MM is scum. But last game Punchy pocketed me, in my first game back Ducky pocketed me. I owe it to myself to look over your posts again because FMPOV, one of the two of you is scum and one is town, but it's not 100% confirmed for me which one is which

That's fair, and that's why I believe that Town!Banana is reasonably motivated, but I can also see how Scum!Banana is motivated in the cursed timeline

[theoneceko]

Just thinking through all the options.

Light softed but would not outright claim anything yesterday
Dw says he saw him claim justice which I did not see. Scum would know they would have to claim justice
I don't think an actual justice ever soft claims like that

Gane also said Light may be justice. I checked Light's first posts and I see why. Check this interaction:

All power roles had the opportunity to use their ability last night.
And yes whatever Justice knows is valuable information to town

I Agree That Would Be Very Valuable Information..

[theoneceko]

Yeah it's sus, especially since Galeon was pretty much universally town read

Lol not by me and DS.

[BananaCucho]

It's friday night ladies and gents. What's your drink?

[theoneceko]

I agree with this, MM is our vote for today. If my theory is correct then we vote Yagami first thing tomorrow.

You realize Yagami also said MM is scum. If MM turns up scum, that doesn't make Banana any more credible than Light.

[DS.]

-vote Light_Yagami

Oh well, that solves it. As for Banana's results, it makes the team Deathworlds - Light - [Renegade / DS / Ceko]. Banana and Varcron are confirmed town. The Deathworlds and Varcron part was rather unexpected, I must admit.

So you and DW are both pushing the same grouping as the potential third? Interesting

[DS.]

Incoherent. You claim to have host feedback of me being confirmed scum lol.

Solid point lmfao

[DS.]

I will post my reasoning later behind why I think banana cuchi is the true justice and yigama is most likely actress as I have been studying their posts, but I have to get back to work. But here is my current reading:

town:
varcron
DW
banana cuchi
ninento DS


scum
Yigama/MM/Onegeko


Why onecoko to complete the scum triumvirate? He still doesn't even think MM is scum as of this post:



It is painfully obvious that MM is scum, and pages upon pages virtually confirming it due to the justice claim venn diagram overlap. Why is he refusing to acknowledge this?

Techincally MM is correct. The three possibilities are:

Light town/ MM scum/ Banana scum
Light scum/ MM scum/ Banana town
Light scum/ DS scum/ Banana town

[DS.]

Omg that is the worst auto correct ever lmfao


Light town/ MM scum/ Banana scum
Light scum/ MM scum/ Banana town
Light scum/ DW scum/ Banana town

[BananaCucho]

Techincally MM is correct. The three possibilities are:

Light town/ MM scum/ Banana scum
Light scum/ MM scum/ Banana town
Light scum/ DS scum/ Banana town

NICE SLIP

​-vote DS.

[BananaCucho]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[theoneceko]

You realize Yagami also said MM is scum. If MM turns up scum, that doesn't make Banana any more credible than Light.

You fucked yourself by claiming justice after justice confirmed me, bad slip by you.

forgot to tack on "+scumpoints" at the end there :^)

I am sorry for thinking you were scum yesterday, it was MM and Yagami, I was wrong, you were right.

Light claimed Justice BEFORE Banana, LOL. Also DW, please don't start favoring Varcron over Light because of this apology. Apologies can just be another tool to deceive, so don't trust some1 because they apologized. SMH

EVEN MORE +scumpoints

[DS.]

I was gonna do a reread of DW to see if I was wrong, but this game is mechanically solved on day 2 and I dont see the point. If you flip town Ill push for his lynch, and if I'm mislynched whatever, on to the next one

Uhh... no. A town MM means we lynch between Banana and Light because thats a 50/50. We arent going from a MM lynch to DW because of actressing we could be going on a wild goose chase. If we think MM ends up as actual town then we lynch between Banana/Light tomorrow.

[theoneceko]

Yeah Well Lets Lynch You And Find Out And If You Do Flip Cit Ill Believe You Were Actress.. Because Actress Will Always Come Up As Not The Same.. Alignment.. And With Galeon Dead An Me Doubting That Mafia Would Knowing Kill One Of Their Own Leaves You.. You Are In Fact The God Damn Actress.. From My Point Of View And Banana And MM Will Flip Scum 100%.. Only Other Scenario Is That Banana Is Actress And Visited Me And Will Flip Justice.. Then You And MM Will 100% Flip Scum.. So There Is That.. So Seeing As How I Got A Same Check On MM & Banana That Means That.. Neither MM Or Banana Are Actress.. That Leaves You.. Leaving My Original Thought Process On You MM And Banana All Mafia..

Actress will always flip different than Town to a Justice. Check setup oWo

[BananaCucho]

Uhh... no. A town MM means we lynch between Banana and Light because thats a 50/50. We arent going from a MM lynch to DW because of actressing we could be going on a wild goose chase. If we think MM ends up as actual town then we lynch between Banana/Light tomorrow.

This is outdated, we've realized we're in MYLYO. If MM is town and we lynch, game ends

[theoneceko]

Wasn't Banana one of your town reads yesterday? MM and Banana have fundamentally opposed eachother since day 1, I personally don't believe that DW is maf since he went after you (now confirmed actress). It does puzzle me as to why MM would vote you, but I guess it doesn't need to make sense seeing that they changed 50 times.

Light was the only person scumreading Banana on day 1...

I Wouldnt Be So Trusting Of Banana If Ur Cautious Of MM

[DS.]

NICE SLIP

​-vote DS.

I've been calling DeathWorlds DW all day, but it still autocorrects to DS because I talk about myself so much

[BananaCucho]

I've been calling DeathWorlds DW all day, but it still autocorrects to DS because I talk about myself so much

Yeah I'm just joshing ya

[theoneceko]

My vote will stay on MM, we will lynch him today then if he is scum like Banana says, Yagami (the actress) tomorrow).

Someone's getting desperate, lol. Light believes MM is scum too! Quit trying to turn the MM lynch to your favor, Varc.

[DS.]

This is outdated, we've realized we're in MYLYO. If MM is town and we lynch, game ends

Assuming Revenenant was town and not actress