S-FM 239: Instant Mafia

[Scvmurderer]

Is there a way to view the vote totals or do you just have to kind of guess, or do the math

Top bar there is a thing called vote count. Its the toolbar just below the page select.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Well.... This is a StarCraft 2 forum.

RTS's provide slow gameplay that appeals to teens and young adults who don't realize that they're going to die someday, and that their time on Earth is limited.

Says the man with a monkey as avatar, while replying to the guy with a dancing pickle on his avatar. And uh, it's not what I'd call a "slow gameplay". Did you ever play Legacy of the Void? Lol... Bllizzard wants us to get a heart attack from having 600 actions per minute...

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Ghost is just a dead townie

Senior Ghost was Godfather in this setup.

[ilovepickles]

again, dancing pickle is a female. Please refer to her as such. *pout*

[ilovepickles]

I don't even know what StarCraft is tbh. I'm just here for the mafia.

[ilovepickles]

I guess it's hard to throw away suspicion with a username like Scvmurderer. It's basically begging to be lynched all the time.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Starcraft is fun and free (unless you really want the advanced camapigns...), you could try it

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I guess it's hard to throw away suspicion with a username like Scvmurderer. It's basically begging to be lynched all the time.

The SCV is a unit in Starcraft. It's his name on that game, you can't judge him for that.

[ilovepickles]

The SCV is a unit in Starcraft. It's his name on that game, you can't judge him for that.

Oh I wasn't. He's a civ read for me. I'm just musing why he has two votes on him and Hybrid is adamant of his scumminess.

[ilovepickles]

Starcraft is fun and free (unless you really want the advanced camapigns...), you could try it

I'll check it out on YouTube.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Oh I wasn't. He's a civ read for me. I'm just musing why he has two votes on him and Hybrid is adamant of his scumminess.

Hum, how is Hybrid that scummy? Also, mind to give us a list of your reads? If you didn't read everyone yet, at least give us people you have read.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@Hybrid , school is over for you at this time. What are you doing???

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@Hybrid , school is over for you at this time. What are you doing???

HAVING A REAL LIFE IS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN WHEN YOU HAVE A PHONE! (alike me )

[ilovepickles]

Hum, how is Hybrid that scummy? Also, mind to give us a list of your reads? If you didn't read everyone yet, at least give us people you have read.

I didn't say Hybrid is scummy, I said Hybrid is sure of Svc's scumminess.

I'll work on some reads for ya'll very soon.

[ilovepickles]

Offtopic; but do you guys not post in threads during night phases over here?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I didn't say Hybrid is scummy, I said Hybrid is sure of Svc's scumminess.

I'll work on some reads for ya'll very soon.

Ohh... English is not my first language, so I don't know every word that you use. I thought you meant that Hybrid was scummy. Sorry :P

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Offtopic; but do you guys not post in threads during night phases over here?

During nights (this is a nightless and one-day setup), the thread gets closed by host, so we cannot post in it. However, we can still post in other open threads.

[ilovepickles]

Ohh... English is not my first language, so I don't know every word that you use. I thought you meant that Hybrid was scummy. Sorry :P

Hehe.
That's ok, my English sucks sometimes too.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

List of Reads





Noone in a town read category.

Hybrid
Aardvarks Bark

naz





ilovepickles
Scvmurderer

Nawa

[ilovepickles]

interesting. I'd like to be sold on the Nawa case. Why do you think he's mafia?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

interesting. I'd like to be sold on the Nawa case. Why do you think he's mafia?

I've seen him be scum many times now, and his play style is similar. He is usually more silent, his posts are shorter and less useful. He brings nothing against him in his posts, but makes sure of not letting anything that could let think he's scum by having a low and non meaningful "contribution". The strategy is hard to determinate though, so I didn't put his name in red. He could simply be having a busy life, but many people do too (you can spectate the other FM ongoing, Undercover) as PowersThatBe, and are very contributive. If you want to understand the meta better, you can still go to the Archived S-FMs section to see recent gameplays from the current players.

[Hybrid]

i m waiting for moar infos. my exams is about to be done. Monday and boom stress will be gone.

[Nawa]

I've seen him be scum many times now, and his play style is similar. He is usually more silent, his posts are shorter and less useful. He brings nothing against him in his posts, but makes sure of not letting anything that could let think he's scum by having a low and non meaningful "contribution". The strategy is hard to determinate though, so I didn't put his name in red. He could simply be having a busy life, but many people do too (you can spectate the other FM ongoing, Undercover) as PowersThatBe, and are very contributive. If you want to understand the meta better, you can still go to the Archived S-FMs section to see recent gameplays from the current players.

I just have no idea what to post.

[Aardvarks Bark]

Top bar there is a thing called vote count. Its the toolbar just below the page select.

Thanks! I love you!

Says the man with a monkey as avatar, while replying to the guy with a dancing pickle on his avatar. And uh, it's not what I'd call a "slow gameplay". Did you ever play Legacy of the Void? Lol... Bllizzard wants us to get a heart attack from having 600 actions per minute...

Oh my God you're not changing my views on RTS's in the slightest. Is 600 actions per minute supposed to improve things somehow?

[Aardvarks Bark]

Dunya can you do me a favor and send me a link to a representative game thread where you played as a wolf?

[Aardvarks Bark]

@dunya

[Aardvarks Bark]

............ @ilovepickles

[Efekannn02]

List of Reads





Noone in a town read category.

Hybrid
Aardvarks Bark

naz





ilovepickles
Scvmurderer

Nawa

Put Me Into Neutral

[Scvmurderer]

I just have no idea what to post.

Sure are a talkative cat

[Scvmurderer]

List of Reads





Noone in a town read category.

Hybrid
Aardvarks Bark

naz





ilovepickles
Scvmurderer

Nawa

I almost get the impression you are trying to jump on easy lynchs here mm. At least it feels you are trying for an easy lynch. Scummy feeling from you.

[Nawa]

Sure are a talkative cat

times&people change
you have only seen me scum 3 times, 2 of them were my 1st and 3rd game and the last i was afk all day cuz IRL+sleep
u can't judge by that

[Nawa]

Aight i go sleep so i will not appear for some time

[ilovepickles]

Dunya can you do me a favor and send me a link to a representative game thread where you played as a wolf?

they're in forum heaven. I haven't been mafia even once on the Syndicate yet. You can ask JJJ tho, he's played with me mafia. He thinks I'm a terrible mafia player. Also you can check my previous town games on The Syndicate; this one will be no different.

[Aardvarks Bark]

they're in forum heaven. I haven't been mafia even once on the Syndicate yet. You can ask JJJ tho, he's played with me mafia. He thinks I'm a terrible mafia player. Also you can check my previous town games on The Syndicate; this one will be no different.

I caaaaaan't ask JJJ because he's not playing this game.

There's seriously no examples? Not even from where you played before?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Put Me Into Neutral

You're nowhere, I don't know where to put you.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I almost get the impression you are trying to jump on easy lynchs here mm. At least it feels you are trying for an easy lynch. Scummy feeling from you.

I already gave my reasons here. And I already stated that my vote on you was PRESSURE. You are reacting weirdly to pressure. Plus, there is no full red name on my list. That means I'm not ready to lynch anyone yet.

[ilovepickles]

I caaaaaan't ask JJJ because he's not playing this game.

There's seriously no examples? Not even from where you played before?

I played all my games on RYM (rateyourmusic.com) and they deleted the whole subforum where we played. Thousands, upon thousands of mafia posts and 94 mafia games wiped away with a click of a button. It was devastating. The Syndicate is the new forum I joined and so far, I haven't been mafia even once.

I can give you some info tho on what other people say about me, here's a review from MrMungbean, my RYM mafia husband at the time:
Strengths: My Mafia wife and winner of the "Best Townie" Maffy for 2011. It is not love, nor loyalty, that places her so high on my list though. No, it is arguably the finest natural scumdar in the game. I remember my old mentor harhol telling me in scumchat (Game 8, good times) that he thought she was among the very best there was, and what better an endorsement is there than that? But I have seen it with my own eyes, and even had the pleasure of joining forces with her in a supertown tag-team effort (Game 10). Her posts are always insightful and analytical, and when she's scum she plays to her strengths - panda-like innocence - in deflecting suspicion.

Weaknesses: Arguably isn't as successful at mobilising lynch support as some of the more relentless posters, despite possessing a scumdar without rival. And me of course, I am her greatest weakness because she couldn't possible kill or lie to her Mafia husband!

Career Highlight: The aborted gwilikers6-ran game in which she clocked virtually all of the scum on day 1 is the stuff of legend... but I'll give the nod to her part in the wonderful scum victory that was Game 3. It was my introduction to RYMafia, and love at first deceit.

Another user, MacDougall who always plays on The Syndicate says:
One of the best players on her day. She has a very good gut but often has a hard time explaining how she gets her reads. Has a tendency to float in and out of games. Can never EVER be underestimated. Probably the smartest player... probably why she isn't at the top of the list tbh. Probably has better things to do lol.

JaggedJimmyJay's review of my best performance in RYM Mafia:
Game 32, Town

The scum team (of which I was a member) started this game very well. All four of us managed to adhere to our perceived town metas well enough that a few townies were listing us among their most trusted. It took quite some time for any of us to be exposed and then lynched, because we did well to occupy leadership roles in the thread and direct voting attention to seemingly suspect townies. Unfortunately for us, dunya was ever-present throughout the game steadily picking us out from the heap one by one. She was on to RedMosquito from the first real time day of the game when nobody else was bothering to even listen to her. Then she figured out adobe and tompal while both were either seen as purely neutral or even top townspects by the rest. We were in a position to win that game handily, but as dunya's very accurate suspicions continued to mount and townies continued to die, people began to place more trust in her.

Then we died, one by one, as she essentially took us on by herself. We attempted to keep her alive a bit longer as a matter of misdirection, since her reputation sometimes leads to ill-advised mistrust by those who understand her intellect. It didn't work. She was single-handedly responsible for lynching three of the four scum, by my measure. RedMosquito and I were able to outlive her, but by then the surviving townies had already attained a keen understanding of the true suspects with the information gained from dunya behind the scenes. I made it to LyLo, but I had absolutely no case with which to defend myself and surrendered voluntarily.


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as you can see there's a trend, I am knows for my townie skills and mafia hunting, not at all for my mafia skills since I was mafia so very few times in my career so far.

[ilovepickles]

I already gave my reasons here. And I already stated that my vote on you was PRESSURE. You are reacting weirdly to pressure. Plus, there is no full red name on my list. That means I'm not ready to lynch anyone yet.

I don't see him overreacting. I've seen real overreactions to pressure votes and his do not strike me that way.

[Efekannn02]

You're nowhere, I don't know where to put you.

Put Me Everywhere Then (lol i wrote dis with ma phone 😂)

[ilovepickles]

my rankings from most civ to least civ at the present moment

ilovepickles
Scvmurderer
naz
Hybrid
Efekannn02
Aardvarks Bark
Marshmallow Marshall
Nawa

[Efekannn02]

I played all my games on RYM (rateyourmusic.com) and they deleted the whole subforum where we played. Thousands, upon thousands of mafia posts and 94 mafia games wiped away with a click of a button. It was devastating. The Syndicate is the new forum I joined and so far, I haven't been mafia even once.

I can give you some info tho on what other people say about me, here's a review from MrMungbean, my RYM mafia husband at the time:
Strengths: My Mafia wife and winner of the "Best Townie" Maffy for 2011. It is not love, nor loyalty, that places her so high on my list though. No, it is arguably the finest natural scumdar in the game. I remember my old mentor harhol telling me in scumchat (Game 8, good times) that he thought she was among the very best there was, and what better an endorsement is there than that? But I have seen it with my own eyes, and even had the pleasure of joining forces with her in a supertown tag-team effort (Game 10). Her posts are always insightful and analytical, and when she's scum she plays to her strengths - panda-like innocence - in deflecting suspicion.

Weaknesses: Arguably isn't as successful at mobilising lynch support as some of the more relentless posters, despite possessing a scumdar without rival. And me of course, I am her greatest weakness because she couldn't possible kill or lie to her Mafia husband!

Career Highlight: The aborted gwilikers6-ran game in which she clocked virtually all of the scum on day 1 is the stuff of legend... but I'll give the nod to her part in the wonderful scum victory that was Game 3. It was my introduction to RYMafia, and love at first deceit.

Another user, MacDougall who always plays on The Syndicate says:
One of the best players on her day. She has a very good gut but often has a hard time explaining how she gets her reads. Has a tendency to float in and out of games. Can never EVER be underestimated. Probably the smartest player... probably why she isn't at the top of the list tbh. Probably has better things to do lol.

JaggedJimmyJay's review of my best performance in RYM Mafia:
Game 32, Town

The scum team (of which I was a member) started this game very well. All four of us managed to adhere to our perceived town metas well enough that a few townies were listing us among their most trusted. It took quite some time for any of us to be exposed and then lynched, because we did well to occupy leadership roles in the thread and direct voting attention to seemingly suspect townies. Unfortunately for us, dunya was ever-present throughout the game steadily picking us out from the heap one by one. She was on to RedMosquito from the first real time day of the game when nobody else was bothering to even listen to her. Then she figured out adobe and tompal while both were either seen as purely neutral or even top townspects by the rest. We were in a position to win that game handily, but as dunya's very accurate suspicions continued to mount and townies continued to die, people began to place more trust in her.

Then we died, one by one, as she essentially took us on by herself. We attempted to keep her alive a bit longer as a matter of misdirection, since her reputation sometimes leads to ill-advised mistrust by those who understand her intellect. It didn't work. She was single-handedly responsible for lynching three of the four scum, by my measure. RedMosquito and I were able to outlive her, but by then the surviving townies had already attained a keen understanding of the true suspects with the information gained from dunya behind the scenes. I made it to LyLo, but I had absolutely no case with which to defend myself and surrendered voluntarily.


~~~~

as you can see there's a trend, I am knows for my townie skills and mafia hunting, not at all for my mafia skills since I was mafia so very few times in my career so far.

Im Sure There Are Better Mafia Players Than These People Just Take Me Or Skard/Scard For Example Or Panther Or Hitman When They Play Judge And Someone(mostly me)Says x Is Efekannn02

[Efekannn02]

my rankings from most civ to least civ at the present moment

ilovepickles
Scvmurderer
naz
Hybrid
Efekannn02
Aardvarks Bark
Marshmallow Marshall
Nawa

Youre Wrong Put Me Under Nawa 😂

Anyways I Claim Town (Serious)

[ilovepickles]

I found Nawa unnecessarily hostile though, so that doesn't strike me entirely scummy behavior usually. The ones with the loudest and most vile reactions are usually town actually, since a scum would place a little more effort on not setting off any alarms or giving people reason to have bad feelings towards him. On the other hand, he did backpedal a bit after that so it could have been a slip. Not sure. Probably going to move Nawa up in my list though based on my intuition and experience alone.

[Efekannn02]

Holy Salad I Just Noticed Phone Efekannn02 Is Alot Different Than Computer Efekannn02

Just Look At The Behaviour!

(i have faster internet on phone yay)

[ilovepickles]

Im Sure There Are Better Mafia Players Than These People Just Take Me Or Skard/Scard For Example Or Panther Or Hitman When They Play Judge And Someone(mostly me)Says x Is Efekannn02

I never claimed they were the best mafia players, although I regard all three as some of the best mafia players of my time. The intention was to give Kyle more intel on my playstyle and strengths and weaknesses since I don't actually have a scum performance he can nitpick unfortunately.

[Efekannn02]

I found Nawa unnecessarily hostile though, so that doesn't strike me entirely scummy behavior usually. The ones with the loudest and most vile reactions are usually town actually, since a scum would place a little more effort on not setting off any alarms or giving people reason to have bad feelings towards him. On the other hand, he did backpedal a bit after that so it could have been a slip. Not sure. Probably going to move Nawa up in my list though based on my intuition and experience alone.

Want To Hear A Troll Advice?

I Cant Help Nawa Has Changed Too Much Just Do The Opposite Im Ordering About Nawa

[Efekannn02]

I never claimed they were the best mafia players, although I regard all three as some of the best mafia players of my time. The intention was to give Kyle more intel on my playstyle and strengths and weaknesses since I don't actually have a scum performance he can nitpick unfortunately.

Im Still Better Than Them

(i love being like dat)

[ilovepickles]

I found Nawa unnecessarily hostile though, so that doesn't strike me entirely scummy behavior usually. The ones with the loudest and most vile reactions are usually town actually, since a scum would place a little more effort on not setting off any alarms or giving people reason to have bad feelings towards him. On the other hand, he did backpedal a bit after that so it could have been a slip. Not sure. Probably going to move Nawa up in my list though based on my intuition and experience alone.

...to carry on with this train of thought, from all those that have posted, I'd say Marshmallow was the most timid and agreeable. This is usually a good thing, but in a 3-day game 1 where our end game and win ultimatum is to lynch an opposing team member, being too agreeable is a big red flashing light for me. You don't have to go along with me here (yet) since we're still early into this, but I'm guessing a scum team are not going to want to draw much attention to themselves let alone cause anyone to have any serious doubts about their alliance. MM fits that criteria the most from everyone else in the thread as of now which is why I have a vote on him right now. He's not obviously scummy, he's just obviously playing this game as it should be played.

[Efekannn02]

This Pickle Is Funny Fight Me 1 Vs 1 Now (you would had no chance against me in Sc2 because im gonna troll and always win by that)

[ilovepickles]

I already gave my reasons here. And I already stated that my vote on you was PRESSURE. You are reacting weirdly to pressure. Plus, there is no full red name on my list. That means I'm not ready to lynch anyone yet.

A little defensive here from scvmurderer's prod. Instead of take the more civilian route of pressing scv harder, he backtracks a little too fast with claim "it's just a pressure vote chill I don't have any real hard suspects yet". That's always a glaring scum-sign for me and while I have been wrong once or twice about it, the majority of times I've been right have far outnumbered those.