S-FM 265: Illuminati

[blinkskater]

scumslip right there

Lol sure

[Distorted]

that's scumpainting

how is giving someone a form with only options that would make them look like a scum, in any possible way they answer it scum painting?

[Ganelon]

how is giving someone a form with only options that would make them look like a scum, in any possible way they answer it scum painting?

That right there is a good question

[blinkskater]

how is giving someone a form with only options that would make them look like a scum, in any possible way they answer it scum painting?

LOL thats actually scummy.

[Ganelon]

Also please stop it with the 'slip' bbullshit -.-

People who play this aren't retarded. Slips are rare.

[Kenny]

Lol sure

Tbh i get more pissed as a townie when i get voted on day 1...? When im scum i just lol and say sure... Meta hack on blink right there

scum

[Kenny]

Also please stop it with the 'slip' bbullshit -.-

People who play this aren't retarded. Slips are rare.

you want me to stop scumhunting now?

[Ganelon]

LOL thats actually scummy.

Given that it looked like more of a troll post than anything else, I'd say it's not necessarily scummy. It's mostly NAI. Doesn't change my read on Dist though

I am actually glad PTB replaced out bc he's so stubborn that he's difficult to read. I actually had him as a scum read, but I'm not sure.

[Distorted]

Also please stop it with the 'slip' bbullshit -.-

People who play this aren't retarded. Slips are rare.

remember last game? it ended like 3 hours ago.

[Kenny]

Given that it looked like more of a troll post than anything else, I'd say it's not necessarily scummy. It's mostly NAI. Doesn't change my read on Dist though

I am actually glad PTB replaced out bc he's so stubborn that he's difficult to read. I actually had him as a scum read, but I'm not sure.

you had ptb as a scumread for claiming escort? now you gotta explain

[Distorted]

remember last game? it ended like 3 hours ago.

cant remember who hosted it, but the host made a slip on roles...was pretty game breaking but scum still won because of a pissed off thrower.

[Kenny]

cant remember who hosted it, but the host made a slip on roles...was pretty game breaking but scum still won because of a pissed off thrower.

wasn't MM the one who didn't read the opening post and then slipped

[Ganelon]

you want me to stop scumhunting now?

I didn't say stop scumhunting. I said stop it with the slip bullshit.

You can scum hunt while ignoring so-called slips. I've seen people use the wrong pronouns as town before, for example, and ironically they were pushed for that. I don't want to see that kind of shit. In-game actions, decisions and. thoughts are more important than 'slips' (i.e., content over some bullshit patterns or whatnot)

[AIVION]

Whelp, Time to get some sleep... Haven't been able to sleep properly for two days now, and I can finally do so tonight.

Will have my early day reads ready to go by tomorrow, with hopes that some of the people who haven't spoken yet speak.

Also @ all the people who join in and read this; please answer my setup questions, would like to know your opinions on the matter.

Night all. Or good day, wherever you're at, because Timezones.

[Distorted]

Given that it looked like more of a troll post than anything else, I'd say it's not necessarily scummy. It's mostly NAI. Doesn't change my read on Dist though

I am actually glad PTB replaced out bc he's so stubborn that he's difficult to read. I actually had him as a scum read, but I'm not sure.

ive explained solidly my read on you. now what is your read on me? im pretty sure its just OMGUS reading =P

[Distorted]

ive explained solidly my read on you. now what is your read on me? im pretty sure its just OMGUS reading =P

Ill use your words "pintpoint it in detail" how I am a scumread of yours.

[Kenny]

I didn't say stop scumhunting. I said stop it with the slip bullshit.

You can scum hunt while ignoring so-called slips. I've seen people use the wrong pronouns as town before, for example, and ironically they were pushed for that. I don't want to see that kind of shit. In-game actions, decisions and. thoughts are more important than 'slips' (i.e., content over some bullshit patterns or whatnot)

So I should scumhunt less than?
Can you maybe respond to my previous posts?
maybe even with quotes.
I'd love an iso on me and I could consider making one on you if you want

[Ganelon]

cant remember who hosted it, but the host made a slip on roles...was pretty game breaking but scum still won because of a pissed off thrower.

I didn't make a slip, nobody slipped shit and the situations are not comparable. I screwed up by PM'ing people nonstandard role cards and, MM, unKNOWINGLY pushed people for that. That is not a scum slip. That's an unfortunate mistake and the two situations are not comparable.

I maintain my decision because most often so-called 'slips' are done by town.

[Kenny]

I didn't make a slip, nobody slipped shit and the situations are not comparable. I screwed up by PM'ing people nonstandard role cards and, MM, unKNOWINGLY pushed people for that. That is not a scum slip. That's an unfortunate mistake and the two situations are not comparable.

I maintain my decision because most often so-called 'slips' are done by town.

alright, we can stop talking about slips then. why are you ignoring everything else if you think that only slips should be ignored?

[Distorted]

Whelp, Time to get some sleep... Haven't been able to sleep properly for two days now, and I can finally do so tonight.

Will have my early day reads ready to go by tomorrow, with hopes that some of the people who haven't spoken yet speak.

Also @ all the people who join in and read this; please answer my setup questions, would like to know your opinions on the matter.

Night all. Or good day, wherever you're at, because Timezones.

aight, dream of us!

[Ganelon]

Ill use your words "pintpoint it in detail" how I am a scumread of yours.

You came into the game, say you've not read the setup and then you proceed to scum paint me. And what bothered me were posts like 'rofl mag is signaling to his scum team not to reveal' whereas that post was a completely troll post (albeit an unfortunate one); whereas I saw a townish, or NAI side to that post. I was pushing PTB because he said -or believed- that blink was telling the scum team to reveal (I don't remember the exact post; you can dig it up if you want), but I found it odd because that was made in response to a D1 troll post. Admittedly it wasn't the smartest thing I've said but I made it on the assumption that the scum team isn't retarded and besides who would want to play if they outed themselves D1 LOL (not that I had that in mind when I made that post)

[Distorted]

I didn't make a slip, nobody slipped shit and the situations are not comparable. I screwed up by PM'ing people nonstandard role cards and, MM, unKNOWINGLY pushed people for that. That is not a scum slip. That's an unfortunate mistake and the two situations are not comparable.

I maintain my decision because most often so-called 'slips' are done by town.

that post was a joke... lol

[Ganelon]

alright, we can stop talking about slips then. why are you ignoring everything else if you think that only slips should be ignored?

Alright tell me what I'm ignoring.

[blinkskater]

remember last game? it ended like 3 hours ago.

I believe that was a classic unintentional blink trap that mm happened to jump right into bwhahaha hes noe locked in my basement

[Distorted]

ill just toss this here for now.

I think this setup, for now, should be treated like a regular setup. I mean, hunting for illuminati is worthless D1, it would be the same clues as mafia (alignment hunting). so we will have no idea.


@naz

I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION!

1) Can town and Mafia win together if there is illuminati?
2) can illuminati kill every night if the mafia die? or just once?

[naz]

@naz @naz @naz [SIZE=6 @naz [/SIZE]


I HAVE A QUESTION!




Do they know its an assumed role? or will they just see town/mafia and have no idea its illuminati or not? or will it say this persons assumed role is mafia?

they will just see whatever the assumed role is, not "assumed mafia" or "assumed town" and not know it is illuminati, IF the target used an assumed role ability.

[Ganelon]

ill just toss this here for now.

I think this setup, for now, should be treated like a regular setup. I mean, hunting for illuminati is worthless D1, it would be the same clues as mafia (alignment hunting). so we will have no idea.


@naz

I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION!

1) Can town and Mafia win together if there is illuminati?
2) can illuminati kill every night if the mafia die? or just once?

1) Not only CAN they win together, they DO win. together.
2) They gain the Mafia's night kill (or at least that's what the setup says)

[Kenny]

Alright tell me what I'm ignoring.

here are all my posts that you ignored:

what do you think?
imo if you want something explained do it yourself or I'll vote u

MM only responds like that when he's scum.
Do you play like MM as scum?

first opn wlfed and now ignoring my important questions

that's scumpainting

you had ptb as a scumread for claiming escort? now you gotta explain

So I should scumhunt less than?
Can you maybe respond to my previous posts?
maybe even with quotes.
I'd love an iso on me and I could consider making one on you if you want

alright, we can stop talking about slips then. why are you ignoring everything else if you think that only slips should be ignored?

I'm honestly shocked that you didn't even notice them

[Kenny]

this is great material for an early iso btw.
what do you think of my behavior?

[DJarJar]

So like I agree with what PTB said before I replaced him - Blink hiding from D1 roleclaim is, at the very least, surprising.

And I agree that Mag seems completely lost here and scummy af. He really seems to be reeling from this onslaught of half-joking half-serious attacks. IDK if his psyche is fucked up from the previous game or what but he seems like super obvi scum right now which is weird.

My originalish opinion will be that I do not find distorted scummy at all.

Kenny I hope somebody responds to you someday so I can get a better read. I am playing sc2mafia rn so I too lazy

[Kenny]

1) Not only CAN they win together, they DO win. together.
2) They gain the Mafia's night kill (or at least that's what the setup says)

hold on

town wins with mafia???

[blinkskater]

Kenny i don't think i will ever be able to townread you... Your scumhunting skills are comparable to rachyls... With that im going to sleep

[Ganelon]

here are all my posts that you ignored:









I'm honestly shocked that you didn't even notice them

I had PTB as as scum read because of that weird post they made in response to one. of blink's troll posts.

I think you explained that fairly well and that post was mostly targeted at AIVION, whom I believe to be a new-ish player. I thought some help might go a long way for him

[Kenny]

So like I agree with what PTB said before I replaced him - Blink hiding from D1 roleclaim is, at the very least, surprising.

And I agree that Mag seems completely lost here and scummy af. He really seems to be reeling from this onslaught of half-joking half-serious attacks. IDK if his psyche is fucked up from the previous game or what but he seems like super obvi scum right now which is weird.

My originalish opinion will be that I do not find distorted scummy at all.

Kenny I hope somebody responds to you someday so I can get a better read. I am playing sc2mafia rn so I too lazy

interesting.

[Kenny]

Kenny i don't think i will ever be able to townread you... Your scumhunting skills are comparable to rachyls... With that im going to sleep

jesus guides me

[Ganelon]

So like I agree with what PTB said before I replaced him - Blink hiding from D1 roleclaim is, at the very least, surprising.

And I agree that Mag seems completely lost here and scummy af. He really seems to be reeling from this onslaught of half-joking half-serious attacks. IDK if his psyche is fucked up from the previous game or what but he seems like super obvi scum right now which is weird.

My originalish opinion will be that I do not find distorted scummy at all.

Kenny I hope somebody responds to you someday so I can get a better read. I am playing sc2mafia rn so I too lazy

Okay... yea see this is why I have a problem with 'psych reads', they're essentially gut reads lol you can't defend yourself against them. 'MY PSYCHE IS FUCKED UP' what exactly am I supposed to say to that

[Ganelon]

Kenny i don't think i will ever be able to townread you... Your scumhunting skills are comparable to rachyls... With that im going to sleep

I disagree completely. Kenny is a very capable player.

[Kenny]

I had PTB as as scum read because of that weird post they made in response to one. of blink's troll posts.

I think you explained that fairly well and that post was mostly targeted at AIVION, whom I believe to be a new-ish player. I thought some help might go a long way for him

well then ptb isn't a scumread for you. I'll take that as a slight failed scumpaint attempt.

[Distorted]

Okay... yea see this is why I have a problem with 'psych reads', they're essentially gut reads lol you can't defend yourself against them. 'MY PSYCHE IS FUCKED UP' what exactly am I supposed to say to that

but you literally said your read on me was mainly meta.

[Ganelon]

well then ptb isn't a scumread for you. I'll take that as a slight failed scumpaint attempt.

Lol what. I read scumpainting someone in response to a troll post as scum, not sure how you take it...?

[Kenny]

but srsly,
if there's illuminati the town is allied with the mafia?

[Kenny]

Lol what. I read scumpainting someone in response to a troll post as scum, not sure how you take it...?

you tried putting ptb as scumread and pulled back after I questioned it.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

SO. I didn't read my rolecard yet, just got back from work I'm going to analyze the setup, post about it, AND THEN I will read my rolecard.

[Kenny]

MM is here. If he's town there should be a pile of shit coming up about now

[blinkskater]

I disagree completely. Kenny is a very capable player.

Oh yeah? Just like AIVION is a new player ?

[Distorted]

MM is here. If he's town there should be a pile of shit coming up about now

LOL

[blinkskater]

SO. I didn't read my rolecard yet, just got back from work I'm going to analyze the setup, post about it, AND THEN I will read my rolecard.

Dont worry ill be able to sniff you out when i wake up

[Ganelon]

but you literally said your read on me was mainly meta.

It's not just meta, meta is a part of it. I don't see why one would do what you did as town. I saw it scummy that you would come in here and immediately start scum painting me. Like I said those. posts were troll posts. I think I am reasonably consistent here in that I believe troll posts to be completely NAI, and, for instance, openly claiming scum is a troll post because if they are scum there should be other posts proving. they are scum, not just the 'troll posts'. Troll posts are made by bored townies, bored scum, bored neutrals, sheeping scum and etc. Which is why I maintain them to be NAI.

I maintain that my defense is that you scumpainted me over troll posts. Which I try not to read into.

[Kenny]

LOL

you may be laughing, but I'm actually counting the minutes here.

[blinkskater]

-vote magoroth

im just going to leave my vote here and go to sleep