S-FM 204: Insanity

[ThePaladin]

And @RLVG check either Gamefreak or Unknown.

We take no risks this way.

[Spruance]

So the remaining sinisters unless cult are among RLVG, Unknown1234, yzb25 and secondpassing

[ThePaladin]

@secondpassing I want your n3 action.

[Iced_Monopoly]

We know yzb is the witch, but we don't know unknown is ritual killer. We can lynch yzb today and if people die then unknown tomorrow lol

post 1829 shows the associations that should confirm for you that unknown is RK. That is more confirm-able than the potential witch claims on yzb.

[Unknown1234]

And @RLVG check either Gamefreak or Unknown.

We take no risks this way.

Wouldn't I show Sinister because of my given Rolecard? Or would I actually show up as my real role card?

[ThePaladin]

Iced if you could also repeat yours for me I'd appreciate it.

[Iced_Monopoly]

I would rather go for the guaranteed lynch on witch[yzb] today. I can just rb tonight, escort > rk in OoO
@GameFreak check RLVG

My N3 action was visiting Unknown, as seen in one of the first posts of the day (hooray for a day that starts at convenient hours for me). Detection was RK.

[ThePaladin]

Or that you never chose to ignite RLVG. GameFreaks theory of you being a non-lunatic RK fit right in-line with mine right now.

You choosing to not reveal you were visited by an AC seems like a ploy to discredit AC as well. We know that there is an AC because spruance claimed visited N1 (through a witching it seems). The counter arguement to this is that Spruance is scum and lied, but then I detected Taek as ML and he converted with spruance with spruances confirmation. If spruance was a sinsiter, he would be immune to both ML AND CULT conversions, so there cant be a world in which spruance is sinister (since taek could've countered the Mason conversion claimed). Since spruance isnt sinister (baring the possibility that he is banking on taek being a different kind of sinister, and he is too a different kind) then we know there is an AC, which is GF. YOU not revealing you were visited by AC only makes you scummier and more likely to be the non-lunatic RK.

In that world where taek and Spruance are both sinisters, but not of the same alignment (ie cant communicate), then spruance had to have taken a huge gamble hoping that taek was actually a sinister like him, and both set themselves up to be lynched should the other flip scum, which is stupid. It would also mean that we have caught 3 of the possible 5 sinisters by d3, which would be far too convenient (although thats hardly an arguement).

GF is AC
I am Invest
Taek is ML
Spruance is cit/Mason
You are RK

post 1829 shows the associations that should confirm for you that unknown is RK. That is more confirm-able than the potential witch claims on yzb.

Yzb admitted to visiting both witched targets.

He also claimed witch feedback with rlvg.

I'd say that is more confirmable than a dichotomy.
This is one person's testimony. One which, I do not trust.
How do we know you aren't a lunatic?

WRONG. Taekyon has not been visited by AC, so he DOES NOT recieve any mason related feedback including conversions.

[Unknown1234]

Iced, the Lunatic, gets exact feedback stating our roles. Nope.

[ThePaladin]

If unknown is the rk, so long as I am alive[assumedly we don't have another sinister killing lurking the entire game] He can never burn.

[Unknown1234]

If unknown is the rk, so long as I am alive[assumedly we don't have another sinister killing lurking the entire game] He can never burn.

What was your feedback?

[ThePaladin]

By letting counselor visit RLVG and RLVG checking Unknown we can confirm if Unknown or Some combination of Gamefreak and Spurance, etc. are scum.

[ThePaladin]

What was your feedback?

I get wonderful no-feedback cause my recieved role is citizen. It's useless for AC to check me since I am confirmed escort and escort doesn't tell me if my rb fails anyway.

[ThePaladin]

I fail to see how the strategy I proposed is not STRICTLY DOMINANT.

[Unknown1234]

I fail to see how the strategy I proposed is not STRICTLY DOMINANT.

You play with manipulation, but you're hiding something...

[Taekyon]

Vote staying on yzb25.
ThePaladin will Roleblock unknown anyway.

[ThePaladin]

You play with manipulation, but you're hiding something...

You do realize, that I am literally 100% confirmed escort.

[Taekyon]

You play with manipulation, but you're hiding something...

If he's hiding something, (which is unlikely), we'll see it after the next night.

[Unknown1234]

You do realize, that I am literally 100% confirmed escort.

That's not what I'm implying. If you seriously don't get it, I might be a Lunatic.

[ThePaladin]

That's not what I'm implying. If you seriously don't get it, I might be a Lunatic.

"might" If you burned and it failed you literally cannot be rk since you weren't roleblocked n3....... Ummm.... well....


*pssst* we are still lynching yzb

[ThePaladin]

I can't think of a reason not to hammer at this point, so I'm think I'm fine if someone hammers yzb whenever.[perferably better time than yesterday]

[Iced_Monopoly]

Alright, well I concede on todays vote. I forgot about the ML lack of feedback. My vote will move to yzb closer to mid-day so that he can't be hammered early.

[Unknown1234]

Well, if it makes sense, I was hanging onto the thought that ThePaladin was holding onto information about being attacked/healed, but now that he isn't even claiming to be attacked I KNOW that I'm a lunatic.

[ThePaladin]

Well, if it makes sense, I was hanging onto the thought that ThePaladin was holding onto information about being attacked/healed, but now that he isn't even claiming to be attacked I KNOW that I'm a lunatic.

....Explain.

You claimed to have visited and attempted to burn rlvg. How do I fit into any of your night actions besides n1?

[Unknown1234]

....Explain.

You claimed to have visited and attempted to burn rlvg. How do I fit into any of your night actions besides n1?

You roleblocked me. I doused you. I burned you. You didn't die. I faked saying I burned RLVG because if I was RK, I would expect YOU to be the person getting healed.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Well, if it makes sense, I was hanging onto the thought that ThePaladin was holding onto information about being attacked/healed, but now that he isn't even claiming to be attacked I KNOW that I'm a lunatic.

Are you flipping your night target AGAIN?
First SP, then RLVG, now Paladin?

Either way, I still don't know my allignment. Hoping to be a Jester King or something LMAO.

No longer thinking this is a joke

[Iced_Monopoly]

You roleblocked me. I doused you. I burned you. You didn't die. I faked saying I burned RLVG because if I was RK, I would expect YOU to be the person getting healed.

Lets not forget that RK isnt normal Arsonist, at least I couldnt find anywhere in setup that said roleblockers would be marked/doused.

[Unknown1234]

Are you flipping your night target AGAIN?
First SP, then RLVG, now Paladin?


No longer thinking this is a joke

I'm playing to be RK or Town, but apparently that comes off as a surprise.

[Unknown1234]

Lets not forget that RK isnt normal Arsonist, at least I couldnt find anywhere in setup that said roleblockers would be marked/doused.

They wouldn't be, that's not what I'm implying. I'm implying that after he roleblocked me and I knew he was town, I was going to target him.

I realize now that I can't leave a last will, so I wanted to state what I did anyways.

[Unknown1234]

Also, SP night action was when I was faking being Veteran, so I don't count it really.

[ThePaladin]

You roleblocked me. I doused you. I burned you. You didn't die. I faked saying I burned RLVG because if I was RK, I would expect YOU to be the person getting healed.

That's not how the role works. Read the rolecard.

[ThePaladin]

They wouldn't be, that's not what I'm implying. I'm implying that after he roleblocked me and I knew he was town, I was going to target him.

I realize now that I can't leave a last will, so I wanted to state what I did anyways.

But you DIDN'T target me, so how would I be attacked?

[Unknown1234]

But you DIDN'T target me, so how would I be attacked?

What are you saying? I DID target you.

[Unknown1234]

That's not how the role works. Read the rolecard.

I don't think you're following.

[ThePaladin]

What are you saying? I DID target you.

I thought you said n1=rbed BY ME. n2=target RLVG n3=burn

Is this wrong?

[Unknown1234]

I thought you said n1=rbed BY ME. n2=target RLVG n3=burn

Is this wrong?

Yeah, i lied.

If you missed it read up a bit, I also explain why I lied/why I picked who I did.

[RLVG]

I only visited night two, which was to douse RLVG.

You showered me with your liquids?

Night Three: Burn RLVG (to prove if I was RK or not)

Now that's just rude.

Alright i'll tell you my visit and the Rolecard i received at the start of the game since the SK is dead.

I'm the Asylum counselor

N1: witch
N2: /
N3: Unknown

N2 i was too late to submit an action, i know blame me in post game i wasnt even sure this was my role until nobody got the N2 feedback.
Now N3 is interesting either i'm a lunatic or Unknown is lying. And i'm pretty sure i'm the AC.

WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU TARGET THE FUCKING SHERIFF HOLY SHIT
And the fact that you were too late to submit an action.

Heck, there's a freaking Investigator there!!!

Intention of targeting is not town. Why would you not confirm the Sheriff who doesn't know if they're Insane or Normal VS being a Lunatic?
I have Town feedback AND Scum feedback.

Gamfreak, why did you decide to stick by your escort claim earlier when we were already going to be lynching the sk that day?

This.

Why would you not check RLVG who potentially had a lead on gyrlander if he flipped right?

And this.

There is at least 1 because I received ac feedback and almost everyone else knows their role already.

And t- WAIT WHAT
Spruance, yo. We don't actually know.

I thought about it, but in my mind if the host gives a sheriff rolecard its stupid to also give that too a lunatic.
Since then DW (who likes to handpick) ignores an entire mechanic since he's waiting for the AC to find the actual sheriff.

So i assumed RLVG is actually a (insane) sheriff. And i can't help him with that

This isn't a valid excuse.

[Spruance]

Yeah, i lied.

If you missed it read up a bit, I also explain why I lied/why I picked who I did.

Any guesses on what your actual role would be?

[RLVG]

Gamefreak, redeem yourself by targeting me while I check Unknown.

We lynch YZB the Witch.

Paladin does his thing and Monopoly does their thing.

And Gyrlander continues to be useless. :troll:

[ThePaladin]

Yeah, i lied.

If you missed it read up a bit, I also explain why I lied/why I picked who I did.

::Why would you lie twice....::



:till need more shampoo::::::

::Ahh what a wonderful shower.

[RLVG]

This game is just weird. The roles are as weird as the players in the game. The testemonies and gambits are as weird as weird can go.

[ThePaladin]

I like how Kovath is viewing this thread more than about 30-50% of the players playing.

::

[Unknown1234]

Any guesses on what your actual role would be?

No Idea whatsoever.

[Unknown1234]

::Why would you lie twice....::



:till need more shampoo::::::

::Ahh what a wonderful shower.

I lied the first time when I didn't know if I was RK or not, now I do know that I'm not.

I lied the second time to make sure there wasn't a doctor, if there was then obviously I AM RK so I had to be cautious.

Even with my Lunatic role, I'm not sure if I'm even town, which is very sad.

[Unknown1234]

Gamefreak, redeem yourself by targeting me while I check Unknown.

We lynch YZB the Witch.

Paladin does his thing and Monopoly does their thing.

And Gyrlander continues to be useless. :troll:

RLVG, won't I still show sinister because of my given Rolecard?

[secondpassing]

Hi

[Unknown1234]

Hi

How about I call you Serial Killer, and you call me Ritual Killer.

Sound good?

[secondpassing]

How about I call you Serial Killer, and you call me Ritual Killer.

Sound good?

You can call me secondpassing, sp, or something similar.

Is that what you are claiming now?

[secondpassing]

I'm almost done reading, but what do you think of RLVG's theory of people being lunatics of each other in this game?

[secondpassing]

You can call me secondpassing, sp, or something similar.

Is that what you are claiming now?

Lololol come back Unknown.
You're screwed.