S-FM: ???? Gamethread

[RLVG]

the similarity about arthur invulnerability and morgan invulnerability makes me think that SJ is red morgan, but idk why they wouldn't just share it aloud if it were true.

also waiting on that director claim that rlvg talked about

What if the Director is either dead or converted?

[Voss]

There's one thing I find contradictory though.
How can the Majority Faction win with the Red Team Scum if we lynch one member, while the Team Scum has to eliminate Majority Faction Mayor?
I'd understand if Majority Faction would have to lose the Mayor, but it doesn't mention that, and I'd understand if Red Team would lose a member but it doesn't mention that.

this. this. this. the win conditions posted aren't probably 100% true either.

[Voss]

What if the Director is either dead or converted?

i have a theory, but i'll wait 8 hours before I post about it. hopefully everyone checks in.

[NoctiZ]

There's one thing I find contradictory though.
How can the Majority Faction win with the Red Team Scum if we lynch one member, while the Team Scum has to eliminate Majority Faction Mayor?
I'd understand if Majority Faction would have to lose the Mayor, but it doesn't mention that, and I'd understand if Red Team would lose a member but it doesn't mention that.

Not sure what your specific gripe is. Somehow we need to specifically eliminate the Mayor to win with you. I believe this is because he is the director? Man I'll have to read up on why I think he's the director. But this does make sense in so far that killing the director gives purple Team Scum another member so now Majority Faction and red Team Scum can team up. Maybe?

[RLVG]

Not sure what your specific gripe is. Somehow we need to specifically eliminate the Mayor to win with you. I believe this is because he is the director? Man I'll have to read up on why I think he's the director. But this does make sense in so far that killing the director gives purple Team Scum another member so now Majority Faction and red Team Scum can team up. Maybe?

Why isn't it included in Town's victory with Red that Mayor must die, while in Red's victory with Town a member of Red must die?
Two separate win conditions where one can win with the other but the other can't win with them, is fucking weird.

[PowersThatBe]

All SJ said was that one guy in chat claimed that you don't take any action at night. This was however based on your claim during the day. Thus your claim is unprovable so far. We do not have a tracking ability. There has been no one so far that can support your claims. This makes it suspicious.

I suspect with that immunity mechanic you could be Morgan or Merlin. Morgan is the equivalent of RLVG so if RLVG is immune with his vassals then Morgan might be like a Godfather that is immune during the night. Just food for thought.

I cannot be Merlin. There isn't even less than a % chance.

So how do you guys know I take no night action?

Fucks sake. That's why my one of my team claimed you where a non-action role.

Also if you're gonna throw stones, SJ's "immunity to death" is the same as @RLVG 's due to the fact its tied to allied deaths. Yet we're giving up all of our roles, and you guys keep lying. I understand you're only a 3 person team, however, you're putting a lot of pressure on the town right now. When you could ML us and win without us. But as it stands we cant win without you due to town deaths, and not having all of the info. BUT for the record, I am against you guys outing your 3rd person as it stands now.

But once again, for the viewers paying attention at home. THERE IS A 0.000000000000000% chance of me being Merlin.

[NoctiZ]

Geh how do spell stoles name? I plan on doing hwk once I vote stole who is our best lynch candidate today

I treat it as: the only faction to win should the mayor be eliminated and the full red team alive is the red team
And: should the Majority faction still have their mayor and have killed a red scum the majority faction is the only one to win

This.

the similarity about arthur invulnerability and morgan invulnerability makes me think that SJ is red morgan, but idk why they wouldn't just share it aloud if it were true.

also waiting on that director claim that rlvg talked about

I can confirm that red team kill is the one with gun shots. And we all know that Morgan's kill is the fire burning one.

How would you know that Morgan's invulnerability is the excact same as Arthur's?

[PowersThatBe]

Why isn't it included in Town's victory with Red that Mayor must die, while in Red's victory with Town a member of Red must die?
Two separate win conditions where one can win with the other but the other can't win with them, is fucking weird.

11 of us 3 of them.

well probably 10 now. but still.

[PowersThatBe]

This.

I can confirm that red team kill is the one with gun shots. And we all know that Morgan's kill is the fire burning one.

How would you know that Morgan's invulnerability is the excact same as Arthur's?

RLVG said it was.

[Voss]

RLVG said it was.

this. the numbers make more sense if superjack is morgan

[NoctiZ]

Why isn't it included in Town's victory with Red that Mayor must die, while in Red's victory with Town a member of Red must die?
Two separate win conditions where one can win with the other but the other can't win with them, is fucking weird.

Not sure it's too weird. Like, yeah there are restrictions, but I don't see it as weird.

Also I don't see why we would doubt the win conditions. They came straight from the Host and the RP text before that doesn't make me doubt it. I feel like Voss is scummy for insisting that the win condition must be wrong so we won't be able to cooperate with the Majority Faction.

I cannot be Merlin. There isn't even less than a % chance.

So how do you guys know I take no night action?





Also if you're gonna throw stones, SJ's "immunity to death" is the same as @RLVG 's due to the fact its tied to allied deaths. Yet we're giving up all of our roles, and you guys keep lying. I understand you're only a 3 person team, however, you're putting a lot of pressure on the town right now. When you could ML us and win without us. But as it stands we cant win without you due to town deaths, and not having all of the info. BUT for the record, I am against you guys outing your 3rd person as it stands now.

But once again, for the viewers paying attention at home. THERE IS A 0.000000000000000% chance of me being Merlin.

You are dumb. I told you that SJ has misunderstood what someone said in the night chat. We do not know that your claim is true. You are just for no reason insisting on it because you misunderstood what SJ said. SJ read that someone has explained your claim from the Day before. You said that you do not have a night action. This is what was said in chat. This is why SJ told you that one of us claimed this. There was no action performed by us that would prove your claims in any way. Stop insisting on this.

[PowersThatBe]

@NoctiZ - also removing all the role possibilities whats the scum perspective vs the town perspective of how I'm playing?

Weigh those and make your choice.

[PowersThatBe]

Not sure it's too weird. Like, yeah there are restrictions, but I don't see it as weird.

Also I don't see why we would doubt the win conditions. They came straight from the Host and the RP text before that doesn't make me doubt it. I feel like Voss is scummy for insisting that the win condition must be wrong so we won't be able to cooperate with the Majority Faction.

You are dumb. I told you that SJ has misunderstood what someone said in the night chat. We do not know that your claim is true. You are just for no reason insisting on it because you misunderstood what SJ said. SJ read that someone has explained your claim from the Day before. You said that you do not have a night action. This is what was said in chat. This is why SJ told you that one of us claimed this. There was no action performed by us that would prove your claims in any way. Stop insisting on this.

Maybe you guys should be more clear. I stated like 4 or 5 times that SJ said someone tracked me and NOT ONCE did SJ correct me. So really, it's not my fault for misunderstanding something, when the person who originally wrote the misleading or confusing statement did nothing to clarify it.

[NoctiZ]

RLVG said it was.

Was it claimed in that extra reveal post that RLVG made today? I was only looking at the D1 reveal. Will scroll back through. But there is no reason to distrust us. If we fake claimed Red Team Scum then why are there no CCs? If we were purple Team Scum then the real Red Team Scum could CC us and win with Town. This is so stupid.

[NoctiZ]

@NoctiZ - also removing all the role possibilities whats the scum perspective vs the town perspective of how I'm playing?

Weigh those and make your choice.

Without me and SJ claiming anything, what's the scum perspective vs town perspective of how I'm playing? You know what my point is.

If you truly want to know, I claimed in night chat that I thought you to be a good candidate of being either Morgan or Merlin. That's my perspective and how I'm weighing this.

[PowersThatBe]

Not sure it's too weird. Like, yeah there are restrictions, but I don't see it as weird.

Also I don't see why we would doubt the win conditions. They came straight from the Host and the RP text before that doesn't make me doubt it. I feel like Voss is scummy for insisting that the win condition must be wrong so we won't be able to cooperate with the Majority Faction.

You are dumb. I told you that SJ has misunderstood what someone said in the night chat. We do not know that your claim is true. You are just for no reason insisting on it because you misunderstood what SJ said. SJ read that someone has explained your claim from the Day before. You said that you do not have a night action. This is what was said in chat. This is why SJ told you that one of us claimed this. There was no action performed by us that would prove your claims in any way. Stop insisting on this.

And you didnt say SJ misunderstood. You said that SJ stated that your teammate CLAIMED I had no night action. This still leads to the IDEA that you guys have an ability that allows you to see if someone does night actions. Now you've made it crystal clear. But calling me dumb because between you and SJ you cant put a fucking coherent thought together, IS NOT MY FAULT.


And not defending Voss, because I'd love to lynch this dipshit too. However, he's fucking set up specing like crazy because of rule 7. He thinks host is intentionally misleading us via role cards or instructions. As he thinks SJ's avatar (which has been there forever) somehow indicates that SJ might be Morgan. Basically, Voss is a moron.

Information that I was coerced forced to reveal:
1. There is a majority faction.
2. There are between 1-2 team scum factions.
3. Cult may or may not exist.
4. There are between 1-3 neutral roles.
5. Win conditions can be achieved by eliminating the players not on your team.
6. No stupid fucking jesters.
7. Your role cards are accurate mostly accurate.

[Voss]

"I feel like Voss is scummy for insisting that the win condition must be wrong so we won't be able to cooperate with the Majority Faction."

again, i'm not saying we shouldn't work with you. SJ's claim, RLVG's claim, and the posted win conditions don't make sense. SJ being Morgan clears a bunch of that up. Otherwise, I'm forced to go back to Rule #5, and we hunt merlin together anyway.

[Voss]

As he thinks SJ's avatar (which has been there forever) somehow indicates that SJ might be Morgan. Basically, Voss is a moron.

Trying to respond civily, I just thought it was a happy coincidence and that at the time, SJ claimed Morgan.

[Voss]

Was it claimed in that extra reveal post that RLVG made today? I was only looking at the D1 reveal. Will scroll back through. But there is no reason to distrust us. If we fake claimed Red Team Scum then why are there no CCs? If we were purple Team Scum then the real Red Team Scum could CC us and win with Town. This is so stupid.

if you guys are sticking to SJ not being Morgan, fine.

[PowersThatBe]

Without me and SJ claiming anything, what's the scum perspective vs town perspective of how I'm playing? You know what my point is.

If you truly want to know, I claimed in night chat that I thought you to be a good candidate of being either Morgan or Merlin. That's my perspective and how I'm weighing this.

If you want to know. I actually thought you and SJ were teammed up from the start. I even stated this back in my initial entry into the game. I thought you were very quick to side with me, which either meant you really town read me, or you were a scum trying to buddy me because you saw other people town reading me.

It's clear now, that you are scum and are in fact with SJ. I need you to win now, because we lost so much. However, do I fully expect you guys to kill me at night time (yes I do).

I don't care if you think I'm merlin, morgan, or donald fucking trump. Think what you want.

My point which you missed, is if I were MORGAN or MERLIN. WHAT benefits to my win con is playing the way I'm playing? We all know scum play a certain way on this site (in most cases) and we know how town play (in most cases). Or you have experience to get tells.

So you think based on my claims I could potentially be merlin or morgan. However, what about my other playing lends to this or doesn't lend to this. How do your teammates feel?

[NoctiZ]

"I feel like Voss is scummy for insisting that the win condition must be wrong so we won't be able to cooperate with the Majority Faction."

again, i'm not saying we shouldn't work with you. SJ's claim, RLVG's claim, and the posted win conditions don't make sense. SJ being Morgan clears a bunch of that up. Otherwise, I'm forced to go back to Rule #5, and we hunt merlin together anyway.

How does SJ being Morgan clear anything up? From my POV: If the Mayor dies (who I think is the director but still don't know why, I keep saying I'll read back but that's a lot of posts) then Purple Team Scum becomes stronger. To counteract this, Majority Faction and Red Team Scum can team up and we can win with you guys. However you guys cannot win with us if you do not eliminate atleast one of us. This might be to prevent us from making eachother stronger with no downside.

This downside I see is that you have to lynch one of us while atleast one of Purple Team Scum or Merlin stays alive. Imagine this scenario: Morgan starts killing us, we get down to the last person who has to be Morgan but you have to lynch one of us, you lynch another one of us and Morgan kills the last guy to make us lose atleast because Morgan cannot likely win in that scenario anyway. We are wiped out and Majority Faction dies alone.

Can you follow that?

[PowersThatBe]

@widomakr soft claimed a power role at poast 122, essentially when they stated they could prove they were town.

I'm still catching up. I just thought was important to note.

I feel like stealth is probably a jester.

Noctiz gave me bad vibes when I skimmed game (before I was asked to play).

Jack from his interactions with noc seemed to come towny for me. Also, jack was only one not on the reemus vote, yes?

Sorry if any of this is wrong, spouting from recall solely, and I have not peered over the interactions from yesterday vigorously.

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post693557

found there

And yes, I felt Jack was towny at that time, but more of your interactions made me believe you were possible teammates.

[Voss]

How does SJ being Morgan clear anything up? From my POV: If the Mayor dies (who I think is the director but still don't know why, I keep saying I'll read back but that's a lot of posts) then Purple Team Scum becomes stronger. To counteract this, Majority Faction and Red Team Scum can team up and we can win with you guys. However you guys cannot win with us if you do not eliminate atleast one of us. This might be to prevent us from making eachother stronger with no downside.

This downside I see is that you have to lynch one of us while atleast one of Purple Team Scum or Merlin stays alive. Imagine this scenario: Morgan starts killing us, we get down to the last person who has to be Morgan but you have to lynch one of us, you lynch another one of us and Morgan kills the last guy to make us lose atleast because Morgan cannot likely win in that scenario anyway. We are wiped out and Majority Faction dies alone.

Can you follow that?

yes, and this next bit is a rhetorical question. what kind of fucked up mechanics does DW include in a game where if scum kills an enemy, they get STRONGER.

[NoctiZ]

If you want to know. I actually thought you and SJ were teammed up from the start. I even stated this back in my initial entry into the game. I thought you were very quick to side with me, which either meant you really town read me, or you were a scum trying to buddy me because you saw other people town reading me.

It's clear now, that you are scum and are in fact with SJ. I need you to win now, because we lost so much. However, do I fully expect you guys to kill me at night time (yes I do).

I don't care if you think I'm merlin, morgan, or donald fucking trump. Think what you want.

My point which you missed, is if I were MORGAN or MERLIN. WHAT benefits to my win con is playing the way I'm playing? We all know scum play a certain way on this site (in most cases) and we know how town play (in most cases). Or you have experience to get tells.

So you think based on my claims I could potentially be merlin or morgan. However, what about my other playing lends to this or doesn't lend to this. How do your teammates feel?

You post a lot and push a lot in this or that direction. But I saw you push for low hanging fruits quite a bit which is what scum tends to do, especially when nearing the end of a day. Which is what I admittedly also tried to do and it's perfectly normal from a scum POV. From a town POV you'd be more wary of just going with policy lynches. Something Hybrid did D1 was actually a good strategy to prevent a mislynch but it still went through anyway because he tried to trick us into not lynching instead of convincing us.

That's part of it anyway. It's one of the reasons that I think your play hasn't been particularly pro-town. In addition there is your ability claim which just solidifies the idea for me. If you want a real in-depth analysis on your play so far I'd have to get my hands on that ISO tool that I've been looking for a way to get my hands on already.

[NoctiZ]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post693557

found there

And yes, I felt Jack was towny at that time, but more of your interactions made me believe you were possible teammates.

True, I buddied him at the end of D1 but it was out of necessity. I was pushing for Reemus while he was going for Hybrid for the town points and we were getting into a "heated" argument from my POV when I considered it from an outside perspective. So I gave myself an out to buddy behind SJ's lynch. He gave a lot of pro-town reasons and since I had this longer interaction with him I put him down as a solid town read. Probably laid it on a bit too thick. But that's fine, no harm done. My point is that my play could be considered pro-town overall by some but I'm actually not. The point being that you can seem pro-town and still be scum.

[PowersThatBe]

CAN WE STOP WITH THE SET UP METAING FFS.

ACCEPT WHAT WAS WRITTEN BY HOST.

RIOT IF THEY FUCK UP.

End of story.

This is taking away from actual scum hunting.

We know for a fact that Mayor had to die THE LOGICAL reasons is that the MAYOR probably had some sort of power. SJ is basically a GF. According to RLVG he is also kinda like a GF. NOW we have the = of 2 GFS essentially.

WHO cares WHY.

Did anyone CC Noc or SJ? NO. Just accept that it's RIGHT.

Also I'm not fucking Merlin.

[SuperJack]

the similarity about arthur invulnerability and morgan invulnerability makes me think that SJ is red morgan, but idk why they wouldn't just share it aloud if it were true.

also waiting on that director claim that rlvg talked about

I don't trust Voss at all. Constantly throwing shade on me

[NoctiZ]

You may or may not be Merlin (or Morgan), PTB, but atleast you're sensible.

We'll have to settle on a lynch over the next 30h or so.

Can we all mention whose abilities seem like they could be Morgan's or Merlin's abilities and go from there? And just mention the targets you want to see lynched today, even ones that are not low hanging fruits and then we can go from there with discussing them. That'd be what I see as most productive for today. Anyone else with a different idea?

Oh and I sure hope Goatse gets his ass back here to claim all the feedback he received.

[Voss]

I don't trust Voss at all. Constantly throwing shade on me

scum if i lurk, scum if i say what i'm thinking. this is my first closed game, and idk how much paranoia i should have.

[PowersThatBe]

You post a lot and push a lot in this or that direction. But I saw you push for low hanging fruits quite a bit which is what scum tends to do, especially when nearing the end of a day. Which is what I admittedly also tried to do and it's perfectly normal from a scum POV. From a town POV you'd be more wary of just going with policy lynches. Something Hybrid did D1 was actually a good strategy to prevent a mislynch but it still went through anyway because he tried to trick us into not lynching instead of convincing us.

That's part of it anyway. It's one of the reasons that I think your play hasn't been particularly pro-town. In addition there is your ability claim which just solidifies the idea for me. If you want a real in-depth analysis on your play so far I'd have to get my hands on that ISO tool that I've been looking for a way to get my hands on already.

Which low hanging fruit did I particularly go after? Please enlighten me.

I only ever put people at L-4. I never pushed for anyone's lynch AT ALL. Go back a read. I stated I would do what the majority thought was right. I presented SEVERAL reads lists, which had low hanging fruit as either town or I had them neutral/null. I asked people SEVERAL times to give me cases on why I should support lynches. I didn't go along with the hybrid lynch when it was convenient. I switched to SB who was not low hanging fruit at all. If I pushed any train it was that one, and again, he was NOT low hanging fruit.

I didn't push lynches on wido or hybrid which would have been super easy. Again, I actually took the TIME and invested energy to participate in town discussion and motivations. I took a potentially dangerous item (the unholy item) because I knew it would do nothing to me. If I were merlin or some other role, I would have grabbed something that would have pushed my team forward. But no, I took a potentially game shattering item off the table because I knew I could nullify the effects or use it responsibly if I could use it. Guess what it evaporated. @widomakr hasnt been clear if it had an effect on goatsee, and goat is nowhere to be found today.

So once again, why don't you go back and ISO me, because you're so sure now that I could be scum. All because I have a SPECIFIC item that allows me to avoid strange abilities or mechanics. But anyhow.

I invite everyone to go back and read. I have never pushed a low hanging target, I've only put people at L-4. I told SB I would have considered switching my vote to another potentially more scummy target in Wido had there been more time.

I could keep going, but I don't need to waste my time right now.

Make a real case against me or actually try to find the targets WE as town and red scum team need to kill in order to win.

Thanks.

[SuperJack]

@PowersThatBe

We have the ability to see someones night ability. You showed up as not having one.
Rest of what I said was cover to try and catch people out in a lie.

If you would of said "My role was x and I visited y" I would of revealed and said "I have information that your role does not have actions"

[SuperJack]

I have more feedback I have not revealed yet from last night.

[SuperJack]

One of them is that I'm now Cursed.

The other I will reveal after someone claims it.

[NoctiZ]

@PowersThatBe

We have the ability to see someones night ability. You showed up as not having one.
Rest of what I said was cover to try and catch people out in a lie.

If you would of said "My role was x and I visited y" I would of revealed and said "I have information that your role does not have actions"

Oh, I see now. Ah. Now I get it. This is interesting.

Anyway PTB, I never intended to open up a case against you at the moment. For all we know you are immune to everything and anything that involves night actions including investigators. We do have a night action result now that atleast shows something but I'm not sure how strong RLVG's immunity to everything is so I don't know how strong Morgan's is in comparison. Like if RLVG cannot be investigated at all then Morgan possibly could not either. As I said, all food for thought. Pushing you now when there's stronger suspects is dumb. Never said you're 100% scum. Just that you seem scummy and are not cleared and your ability makes you seem suspicious by itself. Paranoid setup, as you know.

[NoctiZ]

To explain what I mean with that immunity to investigators: It'd be akin to the GF showing up as citizens to Investigators in the mod. That's what I meant.

[widomakr]

You found a Copper Wire spool, and a grenade
You received an Unholy Item

that is was I got at the start of the night... no idea what does what... and after I have given one of the two items I receive no feedback as to what they do with it... nor did the unholy item give any feedback...

I would really like to know what these items have done...

Sproucy what did you do with your item that you got on d2

[Voss]

You found a Copper Wire spool, and a grenade
You received an Unholy Item

that is was I got at the start of the night... no idea what does what... and after I have given one of the two items I receive no feedback as to what they do with it... nor did the unholy item give any feedback...

I would really like to know what these items have done...

Sproucy what did you do with your item that you got on d2

spruance is dead.

[PowersThatBe]

Oh, I see now. Ah. Now I get it. This is interesting.

Anyway PTB, I never intended to open up a case against you at the moment. For all we know you are immune to everything and anything that involves night actions including investigators. We do have a night action result now that atleast shows something but I'm not sure how strong RLVG's immunity to everything is so I don't know how strong Morgan's is in comparison. Like if RLVG cannot be investigated at all then Morgan possibly could not either. As I said, all food for thought. Pushing you now when there's stronger suspects is dumb. Never said you're 100% scum. Just that you seem scummy and are not cleared and your ability makes you seem suspicious by itself. Paranoid setup, as you know.

Can I get the apology for calling me dumb? Can you apologize for not even understanding how your own team operates?

I mean for someone who wasn't making a case, you sure did push a lot. Especially this false notion that i could somehow be Merlin or Morgan, when SJ said himself the feedback states that I have no night action. And unless your tracking/night action seeing ability is derived from a non mafia standard type role, I believe you can check me legit. As I said before, its strange abilities or mechanics, which I believe to be the unique ones added to this game specifically.

[PowersThatBe]

To explain what I mean with that immunity to investigators: It'd be akin to the GF showing up as citizens to Investigators in the mod. That's what I meant.

Investigation is not a strange mechanic though. Food for thought.

Also I didnt sub in until 5 mins before day 2 started. I have no reason to lie. I cannot be any role that has taken a night action the past 2 nights as per your own team.

[GoatseOntheCupboard]

You have been cursed!
You were in a strange dimension last night, you had no other human contact that night.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
HERE'S MY NIGHT FEEDBACK
Also I gave RLVG a cup of Coke Zero with cubed ice, I posted that before I gave him the drink to prove that "I at least can give people drinks"

[SuperJack]

Can I get the apology for calling me dumb? Can you apologize for not even understanding how your own team operates?

I mean for someone who wasn't making a case, you sure did push a lot. Especially this false notion that i could somehow be Merlin or Morgan, when SJ said himself the feedback states that I have no night action. And unless your tracking/night action seeing ability is derived from a non mafia standard type role, I believe you can check me legit. As I said before, its strange abilities or mechanics, which I believe to be the unique ones added to this game specifically.

Why force an arguement to continue? Just let it blow over and continue.

[SuperJack]

Investigation is not a strange mechanic though. Food for thought.

Also I didnt sub in until 5 mins before day 2 started. I have no reason to lie. I cannot be any role that has taken a night action the past 2 nights as per your own team.

Its called Probe. Anything called Probe is fucking weird.

[RLVG]

You were in a strange dimension last night, you had no other human contact that night.

I forgot, did NoctiZ mention the last part of that feedback?

Also I gave RLVG a cup of Coke Zero with cubed ice, I posted that before I gave him the drink to prove that "I at least can give people drinks"

I gave it to Otaku because literally WIFOM.

[PowersThatBe]

Its called Probe. Anything called Probe is fucking weird.

can u probe me every night? ty daddy

[PowersThatBe]

@fleetingthoughts is probe a strange mechanic?

No comment

NEXT.

[Forum Mafia GM]

@fleetingthoughts is probe a strange mechanic?

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NEXT.

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[PowersThatBe]

You have been cursed!
You were in a strange dimension last night, you had no other human contact that night.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
HERE'S MY NIGHT FEEDBACK
Also I gave RLVG a cup of Coke Zero with cubed ice, I posted that before I gave him the drink to prove that "I at least can give people drinks"

So unholy item did nothing? Because dimension is in line with SB rb.

@goatseeonthecubborn

why do you have grenades?

[PowersThatBe]

@GoatseOntheCupboard

why do u have grenades?

[RLVG]

Oh by the way, we all forgot about this one thing.

The common enemy lord of disruption.

Finally, there's a final line that mentions the lord of disruption is the enemy of us all.

[NoctiZ]

Can I get the apology for calling me dumb? Can you apologize for not even understanding how your own team operates?

I mean for someone who wasn't making a case, you sure did push a lot. Especially this false notion that i could somehow be Merlin or Morgan, when SJ said himself the feedback states that I have no night action. And unless your tracking/night action seeing ability is derived from a non mafia standard type role, I believe you can check me legit. As I said before, its strange abilities or mechanics, which I believe to be the unique ones added to this game specifically.

Sure I pushed, but I didn't vote you. I would vote you if I made a real legitimate case. This was pressuring you into an interaction to hear your thoughts and you're acting overly defensive from my point of view here all for just saying that you couldn't be ruled out 100% of being Merlin or Morgan. More on the feedback below.

Investigation is not a strange mechanic though. Food for thought.

Also I didnt sub in until 5 mins before day 2 started. I have no reason to lie. I cannot be any role that has taken a night action the past 2 nights as per your own team.

First line of this post would be relevant if that's your real mechanic. We're arguing the situation if you had immunity mechanics by being Morgan.

Second line of this post is also only true if you're really what you claim. Otherwise you do have a reason to lie. How can't you see that your own claimed role mechanic makes you suspicious by itself? No one can confirm you. Only a tracker would. But no one seemingly used their tracker on you as Voss and I didn't and there is no other TPR that can track. I can rule you out as Merlin now with SJ's results because Merlin doesn't have all that immunity jazz I believe. But a Morgan possibility is still there.

Also I ain't apologizing for shit. You're a big boy, you can live with being called dumb. However I sure hope the other players aren't having suicidal thoughts after what you told them this game..