M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

[ccantman]

I had a response for ccantman, but hit cancel on my phone and I don't care enough to type it again. Anyways, ccantman's ideas all revolve around evil killings choosing not to kill some nights. Pretty silly, so if you care enough you figure out exactly why that has to be the case. Only three shots, so wasting is bad. Already shot once. Gonna be busy for a bit. Brb for a few hours.

I have no idea what you are reading from my posts? My posts all assume killing have done all their kills each night.

Where are you reading that the killings are not killing during the night phase?

[Trine]

Anyway, sheriff confirmed me as NS, so unless there are two Admins and the ability to promote was turned on, I find it unlikely that I am triad. I think this triad assumption is based on previously suspected scum trying to 'save me' but is it possible that they are town who simply believe my claim?

Sorry, I meant to say, 'I would find it unlikely', I was speaking objectively.

[PowersThatBe]

It is possible that SLAOL is jester and hence that weird citi shit. He could have been hoping for his lynch.

Otherwise 3 of our citi are quite possibly sccum

Going into work now

[Slaol]

-unvote

It is possible that SLAOL is jester and hence that weird citi shit. He could have been hoping for his lynch.

Otherwise 3 of our citi are quite possibly sccum

Going into work now

I absolutely would have known to shit the bed when pressured. I suggested my own lynch because i wanted to set it up to lead to Firebringer. Hence both pointing out his actions, voting him, and explaining that today.

If i was a jester I'd have had my win yesterday

[Slaol]

I think i multiquoted

[PowersThatBe]

I absolutely would have known to shit the bed when pressured. I suggested my own lynch because i wanted to set it up to lead to Firebringer. Hence both pointing out his actions, voting him, and explaining that today.

If i was a jester I'd have had my win yesterday

Just theory crafting. I believe you wanted to live and your quote at the "end" about looking at who is picking off low hanging fruit really piqued my interest in you.

You are a strong town read for me.

Do you have ideas about the shit that has gone down today?

[Voss]

Just theory crafting. I believe you wanted to live and your quote at the "end" about looking at who is picking off low hanging fruit really piqued my interest in you.

You are a strong town read for me.

Do you have ideas about the shit that has gone down today?

you're welcome.

[PowersThatBe]

you're welcome.

Why am I welcome?

[PowersThatBe]

you're welcome.

Please don't take credit for me town reading him. You were the reason he was almost lynched. If stealth decided to hammer we would have mislynched him. Stealth giving him that space to save himself and me decideing to take him off l-1 saved him. Not you, you were the architect of his downfall. If anything that makes you even Scummier that you'd take credit for that.

[Voss]

Please don't take credit for me town reading him. You were the reason he was almost lynched. If stealth decided to hammer we would have mislynched him. Stealth giving him that space to save himself and me decideing to take him off l-1 saved him. Not you, you were the architect of his downfall. If anything that makes you even Scummier that you'd take credit for that.

he was not 'almost lynched.' at most slaol had on more vote than firebringer. i was watching. I was not the architect 'of his downfall'. I got people motivated to look at a someone else other than firebringer.

i was going to say actually scum hunt and reread the game and dont just rely on setup spec. But you did. You reread while looking for evidence of me being scum and you 'found' it. You're the one everyone's waiting for to make a decision on who we're going to lynch, so make up you're mind.

or are we just waiting on funce to not post before you lynch me? because thats just as bad as asking host to modkill mafia who are being inactive.

[PowersThatBe]

he was not 'almost lynched.' at most slaol had on more vote than firebringer. i was watching. I was not the architect 'of his downfall'. I got people motivated to look at a someone else other than firebringer.

i was going to say actually scum hunt and reread the game and dont just rely on setup spec. But you did. You reread while looking for evidence of me being scum and you 'found' it. You're the one everyone's waiting for to make a decision on who we're going to lynch, so make up you're mind.

or are we just waiting on funce to not post before you lynch me? because thats just as bad as asking host to modkill mafia who are being inactive.

Are you ducking high? He was literal at L-1 (1vote from being lynched) the ONLY reason he wasn't was because stealth didn't want to hammer him. I then unvoted and gave him some time and then I pushed rlvg. If this is the shit you're trying to peddle to seem towny-- you're dumb. I'm off all of mid to EOD and will be around so there is no reason to rush to vote ATM.

[Mesk514]

Are you ducking high?

quack

[Trine]

quack

Thank you for the wonderful contribution to this discussion.

[Slaol]

Just theory crafting. I believe you wanted to live and your quote at the "end" about looking at who is picking off low hanging fruit really piqued my interest in you.

You are a strong town read for me.

Do you have ideas about the shit that has gone down today?

Not yet. I haven't been able to read much yet today because of being out of the house. Though I did quote Grommor and voted him. He is blatantly evil.

[Trine]

Honestly my thoughts at this point for scum are Unknown, Grommor and Funce, assuming 2 more triad and one neutral role of some kind.

[Slaol]

I got people motivated to look at a someone else other than firebringer.

admission of triad tbh

[Voss]

admission of triad tbh

now i'm just mad. no more outbursts from me though!

[PowersThatBe]

One thing that bothers me about SLAOI is that he's alluded to me possibly being cult twice. But if you were sheriff wouldn't you check me to see if I show up cult? He never did that though.

Couldn't be nothing. Just odd.

[Voss]

i know exactly how this is going. i get lynched if funce doesn't post. if funce posts he'll get lynched.

[SlaoI]

One thing that bothers me about SLAOI is that he's alluded to me possibly being cult twice. But if you were sheriff wouldn't you check me to see if I show up cult? He never did that though.

Couldn't be nothing. Just odd.

I'm cautious of cult saves. Converting confirmed town is generally a strong move for cult.

[PowersThatBe]

I'm cautious of cult saves. Converting confirmed town is generally a strong move for cult.

But why wouldn't you check me last night?

[Trine]

I'm cautious of cult saves. Converting confirmed town is generally a strong move for cult.

Not to support this idea as I've considered the Marshall to be town throughout the game due to more than just his role, but we know that the BG wasn't on the Marshall last night, as he was protecting Fury. So a convert is possible if there are any cultists and we have to assume there are as I find a 2 witch doctor setup with no cultists unlikely, unless this is part of Matt's April Fools theme, to give us a strange setup.

[PowersThatBe]

Not to support this idea as I've considered the Marshall to be town throughout the game due to more than just his role, but we know that the BG wasn't on the Marshall last night, as he was protecting Fury. So a convert is possible if there are any cultists and we have to assume there are as I find a 2 witch doctor setup with no cultists unlikely, unless this is part of Matt's April Fools theme, to give us a strange setup.

Thinks double witch would be unlikely but is currently part of a vet double vigi town killing set up...

[Trine]

Thinks double witch would be unlikely but is currently part of a vet double vigi town killing set up...

Yeah we sorta covered that earlier when I suggested 2 WD might make more sense with 2 Vigis. But both are still less likely in any case, regardless of if they are true. It would not be part of a common setup. Matt didn't say there were two vigis but when talking about their abilities he made it clear it was possible. "They aren't necessarily unique" was what he said if I can find the post. He made a similar hint about WD when he made it clear they were considered Unique in this setup, but whether that meant two could exist at once or if we started with two is anyone's guess.

[Fury]

Not paying much attention, but if Unknown is BG, then trine wouldn't be converted definitively. (to Sino)

[Trine]

Not paying much attention, but if Unknown is BG, then trine wouldn't be converted definitively. (to Sino)

Assuming he is, and assuming he has been protecting the Marshall each night, this is true. Again, I'm not casting doubt on whether he is town or cult, just saying it's possible depending on roles and actions we cannot confirm.

[PowersThatBe]

Assuming he is, and assuming he has been protecting the Marshall each night, this is true. Again, I'm not casting doubt on whether he is town or cult, just saying it's possible depending on roles and actions we cannot confirm.

My point was the claimed sheriff called me out yesterday. My point is, if you were so concerned to bring it up again today...why didn't he check me last night.

[Trine]

My point was the claimed sheriff called me out yesterday. My point is, if you were so concerned to bring it up again today...why didn't he check me last night.

That is a good point. Slaol?

[Trine]

@SlaoI , rather?

[SlaoI]

Because I wanted to confirm an ally more than I wanted to check a confirmed town. I wanted to float the idea that we do need to be careful, but Cult is low priority right now IMO.

-Slaoi

[SlaoI]

I'll be heading out until tomorrow, soon, so if there's anything else you need to address with me, make it quick.

[PowersThatBe]

I'll be heading out until tomorrow, soon, so if there's anything else you need to address with me, make it quick.

Thoughts on the double bg claim?

Did you consider sino more?

Any other reads?

[Slaol]

I'm cautious of cult saves. Converting confirmed town is generally a strong move for cult.

Cult is low priority right now IMO.

-Slaoi

TBH I want it known that these two statements are a bit odd. I do agree that fucks like Grommor are main targets, but I don't really like seeing this odd contradiction out of a fairly town friendly player in a cult game. Gets me going and I don't know how to feel.

[Slaol]

I do not want my post to look like any attempt to move the focus to my handsome friend, but I just thought it was odd and Cult setups fuck with me after a while.

[SlaoI]

I would be hard pressed to believe there are two BGs in the game. It seems way too town-friendly to be able to beat the night killers at their own game twice.

Beyond that, I STRONGLY suspect that one of the WDs was a converted town Doctor.

I considered Sino some, but I'm still fairly comfortable where my vote is places. Double Administrator seems OP as well, since that would be potentially three Dragon Heads to deal with, which makes a Sheriff kind of a bad spawn in if the DH is DI.

-Slaoi

[ccantman]

I would be hard pressed to believe there are two BGs in the game. It seems way too town-friendly to be able to beat the night killers at their own game twice.

Beyond that, I STRONGLY suspect that one of the WDs was a converted town Doctor.

I considered Sino some, but I'm still fairly comfortable where my vote is places. Double Administrator seems OP as well, since that would be potentially three Dragon Heads to deal with, which makes a Sheriff kind of a bad spawn in if the DH is DI.

-Slaoi

So if you think one of the WD was a doctor. Which do you think is true?

1) Voss Saved yzb from death N1

or

2)A cult converted yzb N1?

[PowersThatBe]

I would be hard pressed to believe there are two BGs in the game. It seems way too town-friendly to be able to beat the night killers at their own game twice.

Beyond that, I STRONGLY suspect that one of the WDs was a converted town Doctor.

I considered Sino some, but I'm still fairly comfortable where my vote is places. Double Administrator seems OP as well, since that would be potentially three Dragon Heads to deal with, which makes a Sheriff kind of a bad spawn in if the DH is DI.

-Slaoi

There wouldn't be 3 dhs. I'm sure Matt would make them somewhat unique. And like admin doesn't have to be the only role that changes into dh... tho is still fm

[PowersThatBe]

So we believe 3 killing towns over 3 protective towns ?

[PowersThatBe]

So if you think one of the WD was a doctor. Which do you think is true?

1) Voss Saved yzb from death N1

or

2)A cult converted yzb N1?

2 is the ONLY option. There are only 2 killing roles. Plus town killing

[ccantman]

2 is the ONLY option. There are only 2 killing roles. Plus town killing

What makes you so confident there are only 2 killing roles? Why is impossible that we had a Traid, Mafia, and SK in the All Random Game?

[Slaol]

I just got a weird idea in my head.

Dragon Head / Admin / Admin
Witch Doctor / Witch Doctor
Body Guard / Bodyguard
etc

power roles are all about that wifom.

[PowersThatBe]

What makes you so confident there are only 2 killing roles? Why is impossible that we had a Traid, Mafia, and SK in the All Random Game?

The kills do not support it. Look at Day 2 and day 3

[PowersThatBe]

I just got a weird idea in my head.

Dragon Head / Admin / Admin
Witch Doctor / Witch Doctor
Body Guard / Bodyguard
etc

power roles are all about that wifom.

Matt would fucking do that too. Troll. I mean 4 ducking guys slaols

[PowersThatBe]

Fucking slaols*

[PowersThatBe]

What makes you so confident there are only 2 killing roles? Why is impossible that we had a Traid, Mafia, and SK in the All Random Game?

He said it wasn't random under the list

[PowersThatBe]

Can we have gyrlander back?

[ccantman]

The kills do not support it. Look at Day 2 and day 3

Please explain how the kills do not support it in the case of

1) Voss Saved yzb from death N1


Because to me

N1)Mesk Voss and yzb are attacked (3 killing roles)
It was already confirmed that if Voss was attacked and he healed someone, the heal would still go off

N2)Fury, SteathBomber, yzb attacked (3 killing roles)
If your logic is that Fury claimed Vig that attacked yzb and this is why we don't have 3 killing roles, this is why under the

1)Voss saved yzb scenerio,

Fury is suspicious.



Now under the case that

2)A cult converted yzb N1

This means, yes there are only 2 killing roles, but now the issue is that there is an unaccounted cult running around

And then Case 3) we started with 2 Witch Doctors.



See this is my point on why it is important to figure out which scenario we are under. Each one has different suspects


Case 1) Fury
Case 3) Sinon
Case 2) Well I think town is screwed regardless

[Fury]

Come back and ccantman is still going on about this...

1) There is no logical reason for yzb to be attacked n1, let alone attacked and saved and then fucking attacked again later lol.
2) You harping on this seems to avoid scum hunting in a legitimate fashion. Sort of an attempt to appear helpful.
3) Honestly don't want to play the game when you're engaging every theoretical (irrational) possibility. If you think I'm scum, then just fucking say it and vote me.

Jesus. I've had a couple drinks and don't want to deal with this shit LOL.

[Trine]

Come back and ccantman is still going on about this...

1) There is no logical reason for yzb to be attacked n1, let alone attacked and saved and then fucking attacked again later lol.
2) You harping on this seems to avoid scum hunting in a legitimate fashion. Sort of an attempt to appear helpful.
3) Honestly don't want to play the game when you're engaging every theoretical (irrational) possibility. If you think I'm scum, then just fucking say it and vote me.

Jesus. I've had a couple drinks and don't want to deal with this shit LOL.

Shouldn't a few drinks help you deal with this shit? Or are you one of those angry drunks? lol

[Fury]

Shouldn't a few drinks help you deal with this shit? Or are you one of those angry drunks? lol

I'm a very happy drunk, but I thought I dismantled his argument and he just came back with some more shit that I honestly didn't care enough to read. So, I ignored it. Then, he came back what that post and I'm still baffled that he's going on. Last game he was scum, he did the same exact shit. I'd meta lynch him, but meh