S-FM 292: ★ Silent Night ★ [14P]

[blinkskater]

the only thing that's ironic here is that you tunnel like a maniac and yet I'm the one who's lying
Lmao

Yeah I'm tunneling you because you are responding back to everything I say.

You are also tunneling me back and calling me a liar also, IRONIC AGAIN isn't it?

[Light_Yagami]

i'm literally being attacked by three different players for scum reading mag

they happen to be the three players i pegged for the scum team oh the irony

To Be Fair Im Only Attacking You Because You Survived Night One And Based On What I Know Of How It Is With You In These Games You Survive Past Night 1 U Are Generally Scum.. So There Is That..

[Ganelon]

well fmpov that is what mag was doing to me day one, and NOW and I can show evidence of this because it's in the thread

and you couldn't yesterday?

[Light_Yagami]

Yeah I'm tunneling you because you are responding back to everything I say.

You are also tunneling me back and calling me a liar also, IRONIC AGAIN isn't it?

There Is That Word Again Ironic.. I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means..

[Ganelon]

Yeah I'm tunneling you because you are responding back to everything I say.

You are also tunneling me back and calling me a liar also, IRONIC AGAIN isn't it?

Haha I guess you have a point there.

[Light_Yagami]

Also, @blinkskater Do You Really Think All The Scum Would Jump On You Like This Day 2? In My Professional Mafia Playing Opinion That Would Be A Hard No..

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Last will :

"Aaaaaaah, I thought EoD1 was 4 hours later than it really was. Derpy oops.

[Stuff about my role here, you don't get to see it ]

Giving you all my final reads, please follow the last will of dead townies or else Voss will come and spank you [because he always tells people to follow dead people's last wills, don't see hints or w/e in that]:

Ozy, you asked me my reads on Solid and Varcron. There's a reason I didn't provide them : I don't really have a stable read on them. Solid was a bit agitated about attacks and scumreads, which I assume is town indicative for a new player. Although I didn't like the way he said it because it wasn't in the holidays' spirit, I also liked his intervention about the old game with PTB and all. It was indeed fluffy/useless IMO.
As for Varcron, I know even less, sadly. I remember he jumped on Caustic a lot, but I guess that's normal given his unorthodox playstyle.

By the way, I like Caustic's playstyle, and townread him. I just wish he would be less cryptic, so that we could use his thoughts.

I'm less convinced than I was at start of day about Ozy, now, because it seems he has been less active and maybe less solvy in the second half of the day than in the first half. That being said, everyone has a life here (hopefully), and he had really good activity and solviness on early D1, in addition to the Aamirus - Ozy fight.

I'm still not convinced about Aamirus being towny, sorry. That's just weird. It's like she's playing everyone like a bunch of fiddles lol, and you all townread her for that and say she's scum hunting. Maybe I'm wrong on the alignment-indicative character of that kind of play, but maybe you're all blind, too. She sure is manipulating people hard, though.
Also : don't let her convince you all to lynch Mag. That's what she was trying to make the thread derail into with her "Mag is like an afker even though he is the top poster".

Huey's contradictions are still reaaallllyyyy weird, and I'd like Magoroth to speak up on that, with the knowledge that Efekann is town. He seemed to have ideas about that earlier.

Trust Blink's read on Light, and trust Stealth himself, and his read on Light to some extent, too.

I think Light is probably town, btw. Reasons were already pretty much given by Stealth in the thread.

Kovath still is guilty of IIoA, and I suspect him. I was waiting on D2 to read him correctly, but I guess that's your job now if you're reading this. Keep an eye on him.


Welcome to all the new players, too! And yes, even you, Caustic the smurf. Your style is strange, but I like it.
And Solid : whatever your alignment is, especially since I think it's Town, don't panic. Just do your best and you should do well ^^

And finally, Efekann, sorry for having lynched you. You actually tried to help town in the end, and that means you are actually trying to play, now. Keep it up. I promise I won't lynch you for it next game <3


Good luck, everyone."

Direct copypaste from the Last Will PM I sent to the host last night; the only edits to it are in [brackets]. This point of view is from me during the night, and will probably change once I reevaluate stuff because of Kovath's death.
@Efekannn02 read the line about you in my last will

I have no clue why Kovath died. He was not towny at all. Maybe mafia saw a softclaim somewhere and decided to go for it? I don't see another explaination tbh.

[blinkskater]

Dont You Bring Up Meta In Every Single Game Of Mafia You Play? Thats Kinda Hypocritical Of You..

wtf are you talking about I never said I didn't use meta

Stop trying to twist my words

[Solid D.]

so this is gonna be like a policy lynch?

[Ganelon]

so this is gonna be like a policy lynch?

what?

[OzyWho]

Saying that you aren't using meta reads, and then reading half the thread with meta reads is scummy, it's creating a false sense of character, like he's trying to portray himself as someone then being someone completely different. That kind of play doesn't come from a town player.

Well, I not only disagree, but I also think you're being dishonest when you say you believe that - even that is enough for me to scumread you.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Ozy, are you sure that Blink wasn't scumhunting D1? I had the feeling that he was.

[Ganelon]

my lw, minus role claim:
I think some of my reads are not too bad:-SolidD/OzyWho = SvT I think, one of them is scum-kovath is unreadable atm but I think he's town.-blink... is town. I painted him hard but I'm certain he's town, hes not dead tonight-MM is prolly town, not sure

[Light_Yagami]

wtf are you talking about I never said I didn't use meta

Stop trying to twist my words

Im Not Twisting Anything Your Flip Flopping Because Of Your 2 Left Feet..

[blinkskater]

Also, @blinkskater Do You Really Think All The Scum Would Jump On You Like This Day 2? In My Professional Mafia Playing Opinion That Would Be A Hard No..

Yeah it's possible same way as pegging the entire scum team day 1/2

[Ganelon]

Ozy, are you sure that Blink wasn't scumhunting D1? I had the feeling that he was.

nah blink has to be town this game he's tunnelling extremely hard

-vote Solid D.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

wtf are you talking about I never said I didn't use meta

Stop trying to twist my words

I am 100% convinced that is true, Blink uses meta A LOT, maybe even too much in the eyes of some people lol. I remember Mag and Blink having arguments about that.

It is scary that I am defending Blink right now.

[Ganelon]

I think I want either a Solid D. or OzyWho Lynch today

[OzyWho]

He Said The Fact You Had To Ask Why You Did That Is Funny Because Only Scum Would Do That.. Try To Manipulate Everything Like You Always Do As Scum.. In These Games..

I mean, he is being called Mafia and he asks "why would I do that as town?"
That's funny to me

[Solid D.]

what?

well light was saying cause he survived the night he's gotta die today?

[blinkskater]

Well, I not only disagree, but I also think you're being dishonest when you say you believe that - even that is enough for me to scumread you.

I don't understand how you can't comprehend.

"I don't even use metareads"

====>Proceeds to dish out meta read after meta read = Dishonest/malicious intent

[Ganelon]

I feel pretty gud about claiming my role today as I don't think I'll be night killed for it, and I even think it would be stupid for anyone to counterclaim me lol

[OzyWho]

that's not self-meta, that's me considering what scum would do in that scenario

It actually is self-meta.
You literally said "I would only do this and that as Mafia"

[Solid D.]

well thanks mm! im tryin but man people just start gunnin me down.

well if you thinking about me, you should defenitly think about ozy. someone said i was sheeping. ozy bouncing around with votes is sus in my mind but i dont think anyones gonna question mag, xD i havent all game

[Solid D.]

anyway im off to work!

[Light_Yagami]

Yeah it's possible same way as pegging the entire scum team day 1/2

U Know Try As I Might I Havent Been Able To Do That Yet In FM Mafia.. TBH.. The Mod Yeah Ive Done It.. Also, Blink Do Me A Favor.. And Click The Link In My Signature..

[blinkskater]

To Be Fair Im Only Attacking You Because You Survived Night One And Based On What I Know Of How It Is With You In These Games You Survive Past Night 1 U Are Generally Scum.. So There Is That..

It's a perfectly logical explanation for the scum team to think that there would be a doctor on me because there is a confirmed one in this setup, So don't leave out the part about the meta of a doc always healing me night one.

It also makes sense that if they can't get the doctor, the only way to get me out of the game would be to try get me lynched

Thats scum painty as fuck right there

[Ganelon]

Solid D feels way too confident in his reads
I'm p sure ozy/solid = scum

[blinkskater]

U Know Try As I Might I Havent Been Able To Do That Yet In FM Mafia.. TBH.. The Mod Yeah Ive Done It.. Also, Blink Do Me A Favor.. And Click The Link In My Signature..

Not clicking the link but i've solved games day 1 and 2 multiple times

[Ganelon]

It's a perfectly logical explanation for the scum team to think that there would be a doctor on me because there is a confirmed one in this setup, So don't leave out the part about the meta of a doc always healing me night one.

It also makes sense that if they can't get the doctor, the only way to get me out of the game would be to try get me lynched

Thats scum painty as fuck right there

I agree tbh

[blinkskater]

There Is That Word Again Ironic.. I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means..

I know what the fucking word ironic means dude

[Ganelon]

I don't understand how you can't comprehend.

"I don't even use metareads"

====>Proceeds to dish out meta read after meta read = Dishonest/malicious intent

being dishonest doesn't make you scum though, especially in this scenario,
I'm not even scum painting you or anything at this point I just don't understand how you can't see that

[Ganelon]

oh wait
@Frinckles if a Lover picks a target on n1 but they get night killed, does their target die with them?

[OzyWho]

Marshall:
"I also liked his intervention about the old game with PTB and all. It was indeed fluffy/useless IMO"
Kovath talked about that game, not Solid. Unless I remember incorrect.

[Light_Yagami]

It's a perfectly logical explanation for the scum team to think that there would be a doctor on me because there is a confirmed one in this setup, So don't leave out the part about the meta of a doc always healing me night one.

It also makes sense that if they can't get the doctor, the only way to get me out of the game would be to try get me lynched

Thats scum painty as fuck right there

Not If The Doctor Thought You Were Scum Day 1..

[Ganelon]

ah shit I've got some quality info for y'all
I HARDCLAIM GUARDIAN ANGEL.
ergo Kovath was 100% town

[blinkskater]

I disagree, I always say I don't use meta, how is this any different, and how am I "creating a false sense of character", its easy to tell when something's a metaread and when it isn't
b) I don't see what you're saying - I'm obviously trying to make myself appear in a different light - but in what light? someone who doesn't use meta? I don't see how that's a scumtell

the scum tell is that I feel your intentions there are dishonest. I understand you cant see things from my pov but try to understand what im saying please

You seem to want to create this character of yourself that is playing the game without reading players meta wise. I often see scum doing this because it gives them a chance to dismiss meta reads everytime someone were to bring them up. it helps them create false worlds that better suit their needs.

[OzyWho]

nah blink has to be town this game he's tunnelling extremely hard

-vote Solid D.

1. I don't believe he is scumhunting.
2. I don't believe he is being sincere.

[Light_Yagami]

I know what the fucking word ironic means dude

Its Like That Inconceivable.. Princess Bride Reference That Went Over Your Head.. Grats

[Ganelon]

tbh I ain't ever getting counterclaimed, but I wouldn't mind it if someone tried to CC me

[blinkskater]

being dishonest doesn't make you scum though, especially in this scenario,
I'm not even scum painting you or anything at this point I just don't understand how you can't see that

Being dishonest when I believe your intentions to be malicious does

[Light_Yagami]

ah shit I've got some quality info for y'all
I HARDCLAIM GUARDIAN ANGEL.
ergo Kovath was 100% town

[Ganelon]

the scum tell is that I feel your intentions there are dishonest. I understand you cant see things from my pov but try to understand what im saying please

You seem to want to create this character of yourself that is playing the game without reading players meta wise. I often see scum doing this because it gives them a chance to dismiss meta reads everytime someone were to bring them up. it helps them create false worlds that better suit their needs.

ah yes I was indeed doing that I don't agree with your assessment of things but I can see why you'd see that.

[OzyWho]

I don't understand how you can't comprehend.

"I don't even use metareads"

====>Proceeds to dish out meta read after meta read = Dishonest/malicious intent

How can you honestly expect anyone to not use metareads?
That's not sincere, no way.

[Light_Yagami]

I don't understand how you can't comprehend.

"I don't even use metareads"

====>Proceeds to dish out meta read after meta read = Dishonest/malicious intent

Now U Say U Dont Use Meta Reads.. What One Is It.. Either U Use Em Or You Dont Blink..

[blinkskater]

ah shit I've got some quality info for y'all
I HARDCLAIM GUARDIAN ANGEL.
ergo Kovath was 100% town

what the fuck is this

[Ganelon]

How can you honestly expect anyone to not use metareads?
That's not sincere, no way.

that's not really what he's saying

[blinkskater]

Now U Say U Dont Use Meta Reads.. What One Is It.. Either U Use Em Or You Dont Blink..

THAT'S NOT ME SAYING I DONT USE META READS I WAS CITING AN EXAMPLE

are you seriously trying to spin and scumpaint me for this shit?

[OzyWho]

Solid D feels way too confident in his reads
I'm p sure ozy/solid = scum

You have said it like the 5th time now.
Feel free to give any reasons any day now.

[Ganelon]

what the fuck is this

if kovath were lover two people would've been dead