S-FM 227 Lady Gaga

[The Lawyer]

If fury isn't gaga I'm going to kms

[The Lawyer]

-vote Fury

[Fury]

Alright well I'll say my peace before I get lynched I guess. PTB did a good job in super hardcore defending me to make me appear like I was gaga. He didn't do the best job, as he made it a bit too obvious. I'll drop a few quotes.

[Fury]

I only didn't say it yesterday because the first person who called me out on it would be gaga/fan himself (as PTB set it up for you guys to do this today).

[Fury]

I understand a large portion of you lack cognitive processing, but that's ok. Even if you are brain damaged, this can be an awakening for you to go back to high school at 25 years old (freshman year ofc) and then get kicked out because you didn't read the age requirement. Then, go to college and drop out there. At least you'll have your GED after this game is over and you can fake your way through a diploma till you get blackmailed by one of your coworkers who threatened to reveal your secret. He'll ask to fuck your wife in exchange for him not saying shit, but you're a massive cuck and everyone gets a turn so who cares?

Losing this game will save you all, but you'll all be cucks.

[Fury]

HEY @Whad

WHAT IF FURY IS THE GAGA AND I'M THE FAN, AND MY WHOLE REASON FOR DEFENDING HIM/REFUSING TO VOTE FOR HIM IS BECAUSE I WOULD AUTOMATICALLY LOSE IF I DID? THAT'S CERTAINLY AN ALTERNATE THEORY. DOESN'T THAT THEORY MAKE MORE SENSE TO YOU? I'M A PANICKED FIRST TIME SCUM, AND MY SOLE CHANCE TO WIN IS ABOUT TO BE LYNCHED.

I MEAN WE'RE JUST BASICALLY SUCKING EACH OTHER OFF TODAY.

You really think PTB would state this directly?

[Fury]

If fury isn't gaga I'm going to kms

Aw, well it was nice talking to you while it lasted

[Fury]

Don't kill yourself though

[Fury]

WAIT WTF YOU GUYS ALREADY TRIED TO LYNCH ME BEFORE I SAID SHIT LOL???

[Fury]

Do you brain dead degenerates actually think all 4 of those votes are town? Jesus christ. I guess I'll only win as scum from now on.

Well, I'm going to take a final in 2 hours. I'll probably be lynched by then. If you're town, then unvote. kthnxbai

@Mesk514 , @The Lawyer

[Fury]

Oh and @ccantman . Every game I've played with you has been a series of disappointments. From game to game you've consistently amazed me on how hard you tunnel small details while ignoring common sense. If you want to prove to me that you're not a worthless player, then recognize you're tunneling me. PTB hard defended me to frame me since he knew they could lynch me later.

If you think PTB is the worst mafia player imaginable, then sure buy in that it was a scum slip.
PTB isn't an absolute piece of shit like you all are though. It wasn't a scum slip. It was intentional.

Now, if you consider yourself at all intelligent (hint: you aren't), then unvote me or vote Suntax.

If Mesk is scum this game and afk'd through the entire game and got away with it, then this will be my last FM here. Nobody on this site knows how to play properly. No wonder I won every scum game... you all are fucking idiots xD

[Fury]

If scum meta is to afk and get a free win by lynching actives, then this site's meta is absolute trash LOL

[Fury]

I kinda want to leave the site now anyway. Fuck it. Ignore my above posts. Whad said the same shit and was town. I'm saying this shit now and I'm town. It's not a scum slip. Anyways, peace.

[Fury]

READS

PTB-my strongest town read right now, a lot of scumhunting and town favoured contribution puts him at the top

Ccantman-I think he is a noob who is trying to do good in the game with some good points on the occasion

Suntax isn't a good scum considering I scum read him day 2. Anyways, he leaked yesterday.

His read on ccantman, however, is phenomenal.

[Fury]

I'm with you WhaD

-vote TwentyTwo

If Whad is lynched today and is hater we need to look seriously at ptb and whoever dies from fanning.

Like wtf this is the scummiest shit I've seen all day and I just saw the RAW footage where that fucker in Cleveland got murdered in the street on a livestream. If anyone wants a link, pm me.

[Fury]

READS

PTB-my strongest town read right now, a lot of scumhunting and town favoured contribution puts him at the top

Ccantman-I think he is a noob who is trying to do good in the game with some good points on the occasion

Sinon
I dont trust him as much as i like but i think he is just a scummy looking town, i made my reasons to paranoid against him yesterday and I feel he could easily slide in as a fan but his content is mostly town favoured and scumhunting is ok as a whole.

NEUTRAL

Mesk-I have nothing to say besides she needs to talk and get reads out and what not

Fury-im very wishywashy with fury right now as he is less scummy but still scummy just less so. He could swing either way we never know, after today And the events it could be a great time to fully revisit fury.

Scum

The lawyer and Whad-the scum right now, I don't want to and since im on my phone its hard to go back but all the infomation against Whad and the lawyer are in previous posts

This is really half arsed as im on my phone but it should give you some insight

Im not on there but im obviously town.

So wait Whad is a top scum read, but then why did you do this?

I'm with you WhaD

-vote TwentyTwo

Jesus... yea I'm done with FM after this.

[Fury]

-vote Suntax

alright, now I'm leaving to study some more

[Fury]

If you all think you're smarter than me, then vote me. If you think you're brilliant enough to have been the first town to scum read me, then go for it LOL.

[Suntax]

Nice try fury nice try

-vote Fury

[ccantman]

You really think PTB would state this directly?

Yes, yes I do.

get the fan to push you as hard as possible while also not voting for gaga.

as I said if ptb is fan and your not gaga, why not put you at L-1?

only reason ot to is because your gaga and L-2 was as safe as you two wanted to risk it

-vote Fury

[The Godfather]

Fury has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Fury (4 [L-0]): Mesk514, The Lawyer, Suntax, ccantman
Suntax (1 [L-3]): Fury

[Gyrlander]

Lady Gaga Team WINS

Congratulations to Mesk514, PowersThatBe and... Sinon?

A message written with blood was found in Fury's house.

Well, it's been a good ride on this site. No arguments, no discussion. Two hammers 12 hours into the day.

I still enjoy FM, but I'll be on a new site

As for signups for the next game, I would either have to blacklist most players or close it entirely. To avoid that, I'm closing it entirely. If a closed setup is run in the future which I'm invited to, then I may come back on occasion.

Anyways, have a good day.

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Hello guys! First, thank you all for playing. And now, about this town's defeat... I'm pretty sure Fury said it. Even at a MYLO situation you guys hammered super fast, not leaving any time to discussion. Damn, even Sinon still doesn't know he already won! Well... despite all these things, I hope you enjoyed Lady Gaga S-FM.

[PowersThatBe]

GG

[PowersThatBe]

Although Sinon never got this message because 3 townies took care of this for us, I'd like to share the plan for Day 4 and how I set you all up for this


Hi Sinon

Welcome to what should be the winning team (seriously, you guys are one lynch away.)

Ok, first things first. If you can, convert Suntax, I believe you both deserve to win this game, without you I wouldn't have been able to do the things I got done.

Secondly, sorry for all the deception :P

This is how I think you should play this gem I handed y'all.

1. Push my and fury connection AS MUCH as possible. He's low hanging fruit. But don't overextend, however, do fall on the sword if you have to. Lynching you still puts them in a bad position. I have faith in you. Fury is our go to lynch, but IF you get into trouble, you should pivot everything I'm about to give you ONTO THE LAWYER. CCANTman is a no lynch zone, suntax is a possibility, but it's doubtful. I really think you can get fury easily. You only need 4 votes and you have 2 of them. The lawyer will be so happy he/she was right about me that they'll believe their own reads and then you can pull suntax right in.

2. Here's a list of posts you can use to push this ML. I linked the super important ones so you can quote.

#481
#604 (this one you can say you should have listened to whad.)
#610 (ptb claims wont fight for fury but ends up spending the rest of the day fighting for fury.)
#619 (refuses to vote fury)
#627
#641
#650
#653
#662
#665 https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684055
#694 https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684084
#709 (push THAT I told the truth but I WIFOM'd so no one believed me) https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684099
#714
#728 HUGE fury defense AFTER said he wouldn't defend fury https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684120
#837 THE LAWYER GOT IT RIGHT https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684323
#854 https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684341
#864 https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684351 <<<<probably most important post
#867 Tries to downplay saving fury, https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684354


3. I trust you buddy. I think you'll do great, god speed and good luck.

Also, below I said you were getting on my nerves because I felt you'd be an obstacle to scum success (good job lol!)

Love,

PTB

[Mesk514]

Fury, you're kinda a poor sportsman.

[PowersThatBe]

Not to toot my own horn, but regardless of the butthurt emotions, I did play my ass off for the scum team. And i get it, everyone who says "they saw me as a scum a mile away" are just suffering from confirmation bias. It's easy to peer through everything after you know the truth and see what you missed.

But I do wanna shout out whad, 22, ccantman and the lawyer for at different points admitting it.Fury can say all he wants that he knew I was scum, but yet he still sheeped my vote.

Notably, I respect those who are host enough to admit they were tricked. I overplayed saving fury in hopes that it would make him an easy vote later.

If mesk is cool we can share the night chat.

We had a skype group night chat as well, I wanna redact my name before we share that. Trust me, I plotted this out since day 2 when I was converted ya'll.

And I was really hoping my flip would make everyone jump right on the fury bandwagon, and I'm glad it did. And hopefully this is a lesson to everyone that quick hammering is town town favored.

[ccantman]

And I was really hoping my flip would make everyone jump right on the fury bandwagon, and I'm glad it did. And hopefully this is a lesson to everyone that quick hammering is town town favored.

How is quick hammering town favored? The town quick hammering whad is what causes day 4 to be a mess. HAd they not quick hammered, if you reveal as Fan, or we just keep passing until you do.

In which case, even if you flip and we get fury the next day because of day 4, we still have another day to lynch because day 3 isn't wasted.

I still stand by that day 3 should of 100% have been a pass until Fan flipped

[Sinon]

I ~did~ know about the victory an hour before the announcement! GG, tho Fury is being a spoil-sport - how can you be critical of others when, by your own admission, you were ineffective this game because you were drunk all weekend?

[Suntax]

Well im gonna speak out against Putin, proclaim myslef as gay and go to Chechnya.
God damn you all
all of you

Eh well played to Ptb and Sinon
Gonna go get myself killed

[PowersThatBe]

How is quick hammering town favored? The town quick hammering whad is what causes day 4 to be a mess. HAd they not quick hammered, if you reveal as Fan, or we just keep passing until you do.

In which case, even if you flip and we get fury the next day because of day 4, we still have another day to lynch because day 3 isn't wasted.

I still stand by that day 3 should of 100% have been a pass until Fan flipped

That was a typo I meant is never town favored

[Suntax]

I ~did~ know about the victory an hour before the announcement! GG, tho Fury is being a spoil-sport - how can you be critical of others when, by your own admission, you were ineffective this game because you were drunk all weekend?

Yea fuck you fury looking scummy and shit
why was you so scummy
whyyyyyy

Bad loser
ALL HAIL THE MOTHERLAND

[PowersThatBe]

How is quick hammering town favored? The town quick hammering whad is what causes day 4 to be a mess. HAd they not quick hammered, if you reveal as Fan, or we just keep passing until you do.

In which case, even if you flip and we get fury the next day because of day 4, we still have another day to lynch because day 3 isn't wasted.

I still stand by that day 3 should of 100% have been a pass until Fan flipped

This is partially why you lost you got so caught up in pass or no pass that you didn't push me as suck trying to stall.

And tbh I would have never converted until you guys lynched lol.

[ccantman]

I will say, Mesk was not on my radar.

Originally I was looking between Sinon and Suntax. But then Fury did pop up went I relooked day 4.

Until Fury came under light, I think suntax was my initial choice, so day 4 was gone regardless.

When we had the original vote on Fury, I did think it was weird with Mesks hammer timing (but not weird enough that I thought mesk, but that I was wrong), I also think changing from giving scum the win if I was wrong due to mod set up error was also wrong, so I didn't want to not lynch in the morning.

And if Fury is salty about us playing bad, in no way was your day 1 playing and day 3 playing any help to the town. So if you want to play super scum like and then blame the town for seeing you scummy not sure what you exactly expect.

[PowersThatBe]

I will say, Mesk was not on my radar.

Originally I was looking between Sinon and Suntax. But then Fury did pop up went I relooked day 4.

Until Fury came under light, I think suntax was my initial choice, so day 4 was gone regardless.

When we had the original vote on Fury, I did think it was weird with Mesks hammer timing (but not weird enough that I thought mesk, but that I was wrong), I also think changing from giving scum the win if I was wrong due to mod set up error was also wrong, so I didn't want to not lynch in the morning.

And if Fury is salty about us playing bad, in no way was your day 1 playing and day 3 playing any help to the town. So if you want to play super scum like and then blame the town for seeing you scummy not sure what you exactly expect.

Amen to that!

I almost jumped off my roof when I saw the votes were fucked up lol especially when he reopened thread

[Mesk514]

O, i was under the impression fury said what he said in the end game. so i goes i take back what i said.

Anyways.
Big thanks to PTB, im a little ashamed this came from a lurker win but you know tattoos & work > cult game.

but yeah
big thanks to ptb who i obviously couldn't have done it with out. Every celebrity needs a petty peasant to make them into who they are ;)<3

jk i love the dude

[ccantman]

This is partially why you lost you got so caught up in pass or no pass that you didn't push me as suck trying to stall.

And tbh I would have never converted until you guys lynched lol.

Which is why day 3 should of stalled to a draw.

Your not going to convert because its scum favored to get it to the next day as LyLo
We shouldn't lynch because your not converting.

If both are accepted as true, town should not lynch.

In hindsight when trying to figure out scum after your flip, while ISoing, it was quite clear you were fan with trying to push a lynch.
It just didn't come to me to iso you on day 3

Fury said he saw my logic in not lynching, if he just followed through, getting "caught" up in passing would of kept the town where it is. I needed to convince the other towns to pass/unvote

[Gyrlander]

If you guys actually didn't lynch Fury again I'm pretty sure PTB would have killed me lol

[PowersThatBe]

If you guys actually didn't lynch Fury again I'm pretty sure PTB would have killed me lol

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[PowersThatBe]

Which is why day 3 should of stalled to a draw.

Your not going to convert because its scum favored to get it to the next day as LyLo
We shouldn't lynch because your not converting.

If both are accepted as true, town should not lynch.

In hindsight when trying to figure out scum after your flip, while ISoing, it was quite clear you were fan with trying to push a lynch.
It just didn't come to me to iso you on day 3

Fury said he saw my logic in not lynching, if he just followed through, getting "caught" up in passing would of kept the town where it is. I needed to convince the other towns to pass/unvote

Yeah I'm not gonna argue this point anymore because it's moot. However, if you were going to try and stall the vote until I converted, that was never going to happpen because I was so town read it would have made no sense to flip without getting another lynch.

Also, our original plan was to never convert and win as a duo or only convert at 3v2 so make it an instant win. But then fury made his lynch so viable I decided to go full force after whad, since he pushed my day two lynch target 22. I knew once whad was gone fury would be a layup after I spent all my time defending him and wifoming you guys with a planted "scum slip" lol

[ccantman]

Yeah I'm not gonna argue this point anymore because it's moot. However, if you were going to try and stall the vote until I converted, that was never going to happpen because I was so town read it would have made no sense to flip without getting another lynch.

Also, our original plan was to never convert and win as a duo or only convert at 3v2 so make it an instant win. But then fury made his lynch so viable I decided to go full force after whad, since he pushed my day two lynch target 22. I knew once whad was gone fury would be a layup after I spent all my time defending him and wifoming you guys with a planted "scum slip" lol

The problem is your making your argument from a scum point of view.
Your original plan even states you aren't going to convert.

For your plan to work, you need to make the argument that town needs to lynch everyday. Since these are scum sides argument points, thats why I don't agree with them.

[ccantman]

regardless, had we not lynched fury, and followed fury on suntax, the loss is the same

[Fury]

It's not the mislynch that annoys me. It's the manner in which it was done. Town hammered me before I even woke up (I woke up at 6am this morning). I say I'll take a final and be back and we can discuss and I get hammered again. It's not being a sore loser, it's that the community does not know how to play town. Real life shit takes priority over the game, but you guys really made me realize that I don't like any of the new people in this community.

regardless, had we not lynched fury, and followed fury on suntax, the loss is the same

I won't bother to explain how idiotic this is. If you guys can't tell me why this is idiotic, then I'm glad I left.

[Fury]

Anyways, I've already spoken to others, but if more exclusive setups were run with respect to players involved, then I'd love to join.

[The Lawyer]

Congrats to gaga team

@Powers ToBe that was sick play. I've never seen a game where a mafia player tricked town this much.

[The Lawyer]

@Powers ToBe

[The Lawyer]

@PowersThatBe

[PowersThatBe]

Congrats to gaga team

@Powers ToBe that was sick play. I've never seen a game where a mafia player tricked town this much.

Thanks!!

[Gyrlander]

Anyways, I've already spoken to others, but if more exclusive setups were run with respect to players involved, then I'd love to join.

I don't think that's really allowed...

[Suntax]

I will say you have a polite way of saying fuck you to new people

[PowersThatBe]

SCUM CHAT: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/P9ZmKhm9AB42

Spoiler : Scum Skype Chat :

[4/13/17, 10:18:04 PM] ptb: Aye capt
[4/13/17, 10:24:10 PM] Mesk 514: Hi boo
[4/13/17, 10:31:11 PM] ptb: hello
[4/13/17, 10:31:21 PM] ptb: I fought for our names
[4/13/17, 11:26:19 PM] Mesk 514: Yay!
[4/13/17, 11:26:43 PM] ptb: Were not getting them
[4/13/17, 11:42:24 PM] Mesk 514: Fuck
[4/13/17, 11:42:27 PM] Mesk 514: Omg
[4/13/17, 11:42:32 PM] ptb: ?
[4/13/17, 11:42:58 PM] ptb: you two should complain
[4/13/17, 11:49:56 PM] ptb: I'm tired
[4/13/17, 11:50:02 PM] ptb: Idk what we should do about trians
[4/13/17, 11:50:04 PM] ptb: trains
[4/13/17, 11:50:45 PM] ptb: Do you want us to play the long game, or do you want me to just suicide tonight and get fury or someone else tomorrow? Like 22
[4/13/17, 11:51:26 PM] ptb: I think I want to stay alive and keep to the original plan obviously, but I'm just trying to see how many moves we can end this in
[4/13/17, 11:51:43 PM] ptb: I think if we keep fury alive today, my becoming gaga gets him ML'd tomorrow
[4/13/17, 11:54:21 PM] ptb: SO here we go

7v2

ML = 6 v 2
CON = 5 v 2

ML = 4 v 2
CON = 3 v 2

ML = gg b/c 2v2 they can't win
[4/13/17, 11:54:59 PM] ptb: But if I stay alive for tomorrow we're info starving them
[4/13/17, 11:55:12 PM] ptb: and fury probably gets ML'd anyway
[4/13/17, 11:55:30 PM] ptb: but the only problem is 22 is starting to bark up your tree so you gotta get him off your back
[4/13/17, 11:56:23 PM] ptb: If I stay alive its

7 v 2
ML = 6 v 2

6 v 2
ML = 5 v 2

Con = 4 v 2
ML 3 v 2

ML 2 v 2
[4/13/17, 11:58:12 PM] ptb: DAY 2 ML = 6 V 2 // DAY 3 ML = 5 V 2 // NIGHT 3 CONVERT = 4 V 2// DAY 4 ML = 3 V 2 // NIGHT 4 CONVERT = 2 V 2
[4/14/17, 12:00:12 AM] ptbn: So we just need 2 ML's and if I can get 1 tomorrow and then convert we will win easily if you get 1 more
[4/14/17, 12:00:52 AM] ptb: B/c 2 day ML is assured. Tomorrow's ML will be a lock if we prevent myself from getting lynched
[4/14/17, 12:00:54 AM] ptb: or you
[4/14/17, 12:01:21 AM] ptb: we need low lynch bait to be converted when we do
[4/14/17, 12:01:37 AM] ptb: I mean I'm willing to play it by ear, I'm willing to not convert for as long as we can hold it out.
[4/14/17, 12:48:26 AM] ptb: Ok this is perfect
[4/14/17, 12:48:28 AM] ptb: dont vote fury
[4/14/17, 12:48:38 AM] ptb: we're getting syntax ml'd tomorrow
[4/14/17, 12:57:34 AM] ptb: Actually go hammer him to make what think you'r towny
[4/14/17, 12:59:48 AM] ptb: he's only at l2
[4/14/17, 12:59:52 AM] ptb: lets make this a town only lynch
[4/14/17, 12:59:57 AM] ptb: GOD YOU'RE SO ACTIVE MESK
[4/14/17, 1:11:20 AM] Mesk 514: We are playing the long game
[4/14/17, 1:11:26 AM] ptb: kk
[4/14/17, 1:11:27 AM] Mesk 514: Not converting tonight
[4/14/17, 1:11:27 AM] Mesk 514: I've been trying to send messages for a bit
[4/14/17, 1:11:33 AM] Mesk 514: But I have bad cell reception
[4/14/17, 1:11:38 AM] ptb: gotcha
[4/14/17, 1:11:44 AM] Mesk 514: If anything we can play the game just you and I as scum
[4/14/17, 1:11:45 AM] ptb: I'll last as long as I can
[4/14/17, 1:12:07 AM] ptb: I WILL eventually convert
[4/14/17, 1:12:17 AM] ptb: even if its to make it 2v2 the next day and end game
[4/14/17, 1:12:23 AM] Mesk 514: Probably
[4/14/17, 1:12:32 AM] ptb: so I'll give someone a free win
[4/14/17, 1:12:36 AM] ptb: I think it should be whad
[4/14/17, 1:12:42 AM] ptb: We need to get rid of ccantman
[4/14/17, 1:12:45 AM] ptb: sooner
[4/14/17, 1:12:47 AM] ptb: than later
[4/14/17, 1:13:02 AM] ptb: if you want to, you could put fury at l-1
[4/14/17, 1:13:25 AM] ptb: we have syntax, ninon, and the lawyer as good lynch baits for the next 3 days
[4/14/17, 1:13:34 AM] ptb: not converting gives them 0 info to go on.
[4/14/17, 1:13:59 AM] ptb: The only thing is you need to make sure whad town reads you bc he and fury are key
[4/14/17, 1:14:15 AM] ptb: I just don't like a fury lynch b/c he's an automatic 3rd vote for us.
[4/14/17, 1:15:36 AM] ptb: oh I love how they think a fan flip is coming tomorrow. FOOLS.
[4/14/17, 1:16:00 AM] Mesk 514: Basically
[4/14/17, 1:21:03 AM] ptb: whad thinks I'm fanned NOOOOO
[4/14/17, 1:28:23 AM] Mesk 514: Whad loves me tho
[4/14/17, 1:35:50 AM] ptb: good we have interactions
[4/14/17, 2:04:07 AM] ptb: whad wasn't ready for me
[4/14/17, 2:34:10 AM] ptb: Kinda wishing we jumped on fury train
[4/14/17, 2:34:15 AM] ptb: what is going AWOL
[4/14/17, 3:15:58 AM] Mesk 514: Awol is absent with out leave
[4/14/17, 3:16:11 AM] ptb: yeah
[4/14/17, 3:16:16 AM] ptb: he left our fucking town block
[4/14/17, 3:16:17 AM] ptb: cunt
[4/14/17, 3:16:20 AM] ptb: its good
[4/14/17, 3:16:25 AM] ptb: I've rebrainwaished him
[4/14/17, 3:16:27 AM] Mesk 514: Wow
[4/14/17, 3:16:29 AM] ptb: he might get lynched now
[4/14/17, 3:16:35 AM] ptb: LOL
[4/14/17, 3:16:42 AM] ptb: dude, I'm fucking diabolical
[4/14/17, 3:18:31 AM] ptb: ugh
[4/14/17, 3:19:39 AM] Mesk 514: Love ya
[4/14/17, 3:19:49 AM] ptb: <3
[4/14/17, 3:20:00 AM] ptb: I now have sinon
[4/14/17, 3:20:10 AM] ptb: dude scum is easy, just play like a town player
[4/14/17, 3:24:40 PM] ptb: Got my original target lynched and didn't have to do any of the leg work
[4/14/17, 5:17:40 PM] Mesk 514: Sorry I'm getting tatted
[4/14/17, 5:17:43 PM] Mesk 514: Almost done
[4/14/17, 5:17:52 PM] Mesk 514: Will be on in like an hour or so
[4/14/17, 6:32:35 PM] ptb: It's night
[4/14/17, 6:32:39 PM] ptb: Were good
[4/14/17, 9:10:33 PM] ptb: So tomorrow. I think we have two pathways to a ML. One, side with Sinon who is going to tunnel the fuck out of whad. OR. We're going to need to get everyone to think the lawyer set up that who horse and pony show as gaga to make us think she was bussing her fan.
[4/14/17, 9:10:44 PM] ptb: I think the lack of fan reveal will really fuck them up
[4/14/17, 10:53:48 PM] Mesk 514: Yup
[4/14/17, 10:54:12 PM] Mesk 514: no convert gyrlander, will pm just in case
[4/14/17, 10:54:29 PM] ptb: I lardy pm'd
[4/14/17, 11:09:54 PM] Mesk 514: Ok
[4/15/17, 2:29:55 AM] ptb: hmm
[4/15/17, 2:30:10 AM] ptb: I wanna be one of the first to post
[4/15/17, 2:30:18 AM] Mesk 514: Okii
[4/15/17, 2:30:18 AM] ptb: looks more towny if you show up early
[4/15/17, 2:30:30 AM] ptb: like you were awaiting the flip
[4/15/17, 2:30:44 AM] Mesk 514: Yeah I will
[4/15/17, 2:30:46 AM] Mesk 514: Ping me
[4/15/17, 2:30:47 AM] ptb: so 22 was putting a target on you
[4/15/17, 2:30:50 AM] ptb: and he's gone
[4/15/17, 2:30:54 AM] Mesk 514: When thread is open
[4/15/17, 2:30:59 AM] ptb: Yeah i will
[4/15/17, 2:31:04 AM] ptb: I put him at L-1
[4/15/17, 2:31:07 AM] Mesk 514: I didn't know he was targeting me and I wasn't around to vote
[4/15/17, 2:31:12 AM] Mesk 514: So they can't say much
[4/15/17, 2:31:17 AM] ptb: exactly
[4/15/17, 2:31:23 AM] ptb: Luckily
[4/15/17, 2:31:30 AM] ptb: fury owes me his forum mafia gaga life
[4/15/17, 2:31:31 AM] ptb: rn
[4/15/17, 2:31:33 AM] Mesk 514: Most scum games I have quick hammered
[4/15/17, 2:31:45 AM] ptb: yeah I didn't want you on that vote
[4/15/17, 2:32:01 AM] ptb: I told u in the day chat gyrl set up about the 22 thing
[4/15/17, 2:32:03 AM] ptb: but its good
[4/15/17, 2:32:10 AM] ptb: because whad pushed the whole thing
[4/15/17, 2:32:30 AM] ptb: I just jumped on it after sinon gave me the ok
[4/15/17, 2:32:40 AM] Mesk 514: Ok
[4/15/17, 2:32:49 AM] ptb: I think we're good there
[4/15/17, 2:32:59 AM] ptb: I'm gonna buddy ccantman
[4/15/17, 2:33:05 AM] ptb: who thinks i'm gaga or town
[4/15/17, 2:33:13 AM] ptb: he doenst think you're gaga at all lmao
[4/15/17, 2:33:29 AM] ptb: Now that I have my actual name back, I'll be able to milk that to gain trust
[4/15/17, 2:33:29 AM] Mesk 514: =]
[4/15/17, 2:33:37 AM] Mesk 514: For sure
[4/15/17, 2:33:38 AM] ptb: most people will never admit it
[4/15/17, 2:33:43 AM] ptb: but people's names
[4/15/17, 2:33:49 AM] ptb: illicit a certain type of feeling
[4/15/17, 2:33:55 AM] ptb: elicit
[4/15/17, 2:33:58 AM] ptb: lol
[4/15/17, 2:34:03 AM] ptb: not the illegal kind
[4/15/17, 2:34:17 AM] ptb: so my name has always been associated with town roles
[4/15/17, 2:34:35 AM] ptb: Trine was harder b/c last game we saw her she was scum
[4/15/17, 2:35:23 AM] Mesk 514: Ye I feel you
[4/15/17, 2:35:49 AM] ptb: but this is good
[4/15/17, 2:36:00 AM] ptb: I think people were reading u as unknown
[4/15/17, 2:36:10 AM] ptb: also believe it or not, you having a green name
[4/15/17, 2:36:12 AM] ptb: will help you
[4/15/17, 2:36:36 AM] ptb: won't win you the game but it'll help with the newer players
[4/15/17, 2:43:19 AM] ptb: I'm so tired
[4/15/17, 2:46:13 AM] ptb: about 3:15pm eastern tomorrow day opens
[4/15/17, 2:46:20 AM] ptb: saturday
[4/15/17, 2:46:24 AM] ptb: technically today
[4/15/17, 2:46:34 AM] ptb: I'm going to bed lol
[4/15/17, 2:46:36 AM] Mesk 514: Okay
[4/15/17, 2:46:41 AM] Mesk 514: So that's 1 for me
[4/15/17, 2:46:44 AM] Mesk 514: Love ya boo
[4/15/17, 2:46:44 AM] ptb: yeah
[4/15/17, 2:46:49 AM] Mesk 514: Have a good night
[4/15/17, 2:46:57 AM] ptb: love u 2
[4/15/17, 2:46:58 AM] ptb: night
[4/15/17, 12:53:47 PM] ptb: Day don't start till 6pm my time
[4/15/17, 2:53:52 PM] Mesk 514: Ok and you're in phili right
[4/15/17, 2:54:01 PM] ptb: yeah
[4/15/17, 2:54:07 PM] ptb: phillyyyyyy
[4/15/17, 2:54:34 PM] ptb: Also, dog sitting tonight so I'll be on mobile b/c too lazy to bring my computer downstairs
[4/15/17, 3:00:40 PM] ptb: And then working for 5 hours tomorrow and den easter dinner
[4/15/17, 3:00:42 PM] ptb: dinner*
[4/15/17, 5:27:01 PM] ptb: 33 minutes
[4/15/17, 6:00:24 PM] Mesk 514: So now
[4/15/17, 6:00:36 PM] ptb: 7 mins
[4/15/17, 6:00:43 PM] Mesk 514: Ok
[4/15/17, 6:01:24 PM] ptb: correction
[4/15/17, 6:01:25 PM] ptb: 5mins
[4/15/17, 6:02:54 PM] ptb: 4 mins 30seconds if garlander is around doh
[4/15/17, 6:03:43 PM] ptb: I'm so nervous
[4/15/17, 6:03:46 PM] ptb: and anxious
[4/15/17, 6:03:50 PM] ptb: to see their reactions
[4/15/17, 6:03:53 PM] ptb: when no one flips
[4/15/17, 6:05:53 PM] ptb: 2 mins
[4/15/17, 6:06:07 PM] Mesk 514: Same
[4/15/17, 6:07:49 PM] Mesk 514: It's open
[4/15/17, 6:17:53 PM] ptb: HAAHAHAHAHA
[4/15/17, 6:18:06 PM] ptb: my favorite line

After D2 I was sure that Trine was the fan

Conclusion : we are all retarded.
[4/15/17, 6:20:14 PM] ptb: WHAD
[4/15/17, 6:20:15 PM] ptb: IS
[4/15/17, 6:20:19 PM] ptb: PUTTING A TARGET ON U
[4/15/17, 6:26:50 PM] ptb: your excuse is ur judging map
[4/15/17, 6:26:52 PM] ptb: mvp
[4/15/17, 6:29:06 PM] Mesk 514: I have a trick up my sleeve
[4/15/17, 6:56:06 PM] ptb:
[4/15/17, 6:56:18 PM] ptb: So I'm cleared as fan today
[4/15/17, 6:56:26 PM] Mesk 514: Yay
[4/15/17, 6:56:33 PM] ptb: I defended fury so he owes me
[4/15/17, 6:56:41 PM] Mesk 514: Lol
[4/15/17, 6:56:58 PM] ptb: And whad is getting the rope or he will vote with us
[4/15/17, 6:57:18 PM] ptb: I think the lawyer would have to be our lynch or suntax
[4/15/17, 8:35:48 PM] ptb: Lol ccantman wants to no lynch in order to force me to convert hahahahaha
[4/15/17, 8:35:54 PM] ptb: 3 years later
[4/15/17, 8:37:00 PM] Mesk 514: Whads idea of me being tien I'd yrplling so as long as I give troll and emotional responses I should be good
[4/15/17, 8:37:19 PM] ptb: Yeah
[4/15/17, 8:37:38 PM] Mesk 514: Honestly I feel like we can cast shade on fury cause only he is cocky enough to not convert ;)
[4/15/17, 8:38:07 PM] ptb: Ccantman doesn't understand that the only incentive to get "the fan" to do anything is to convert
[4/15/17, 9:58:30 PM] ptb: I mean is fo lynch
[4/15/17, 9:58:35 PM] ptb: To*
[4/16/17, 1:11:08 AM] ptb: More people are seeing your lack of involvement as scummy
[4/16/17, 1:11:23 AM] ptb: You need to get involved more friend
[4/16/17, 1:11:29 AM] ptb: We're pushing whad
[4/16/17, 1:29:04 AM] ptb: We're going to ml whad and then I'm gonna convert sinon the lawyer or ccantman and we'll certainly get fury mld tomorrow and then it's gg
[4/16/17, 2:08:24 AM] ptb: Fuck the lawyer just admitted to pming fury out of game and using that pm to decide his alignment
[4/16/17, 2:09:44 AM] ptb: She said fury didn't respond and I don't want her to be replaced out. We need her to help our two day mislynch happen
[4/16/17, 3:09:07 AM] Mesk 514: Oh shit
[4/16/17, 3:09:13 AM] Mesk 514: Qhy would she pm?
[4/16/17, 3:09:36 AM] ptb: Bc she's new
[4/16/17, 3:09:44 AM] ptb: She said it wasn't game related
[4/16/17, 3:10:02 AM] ptb: But admits she's using his response to sort him
[4/16/17, 3:10:22 AM] ptb: Idc I'm sure fury didn't respond
[4/16/17, 3:10:39 AM] ptb: I used it as an opportunity
[4/16/17, 3:17:26 AM] Mesk 514: Doesn't matter as long as they didn't use it to buddy buddy
[4/16/17, 7:15:25 AM] ptb: Yes whad lynch!!
[4/16/17, 7:29:52 AM] ptb: To get whad lynched today we're going to need me you sinon fury and suntax to pull it off
[4/16/17, 8:51:11 AM] ptb: Yeah lynch whad today then I'm gonna convert sinon and have him push all the ways in which me and fury had a huge connection and get fury mislynched and then we win
[4/16/17, 10:38:50 AM] ptb: This lawyer bitch just threatened me lol
[4/16/17, 1:53:43 PM] ptb: Whad is at l-2 please put him at l-1 or hammer
[4/16/17, 1:53:59 PM] Mesk 514: Ok
[4/16/17, 3:18:13 PM] Mesk 514: I'm gonna vote whad but I'm gonna troll around
[4/16/17, 3:19:33 PM] ptb: Ok you made me nervous lol
[4/16/17, 3:23:37 PM] ptb: I'm just being a dick to you like everyone else so they very easily make the me and fury connection. When I go to convert sinon tonight I'm gonna give him instructions on how to get fury mld tomorrow
[4/16/17, 3:24:02 PM] ptb: I'm gonna put them in the other night/day chat
[4/16/17, 3:24:47 PM] ptb: Hahaha that Gaga vote though
[4/16/17, 3:26:33 PM] Mesk 514: Yaaa
[4/16/17, 3:26:35 PM] Mesk 514: ;)
[4/16/17, 3:55:51 PM] ptb: We are so close
[4/16/17, 3:55:57 PM] ptb: I can taste the blood
[4/16/17, 3:56:05 PM] Mesk 514: Lol
[4/16/17, 3:56:24 PM] ptb: If we win I hope we get best scum team in the Scummies
[4/16/17, 3:57:31 PM] Mesk 514: I'm about to go off on you
[4/16/17, 3:57:33 PM] ptb: I just wanna know which staff or admin the lawyer is
[4/16/17, 3:57:47 PM] ptb: Or if it's Bc
[4/16/17, 3:57:56 PM] Mesk 514: It's not bc
[4/16/17, 3:57:59 PM] Mesk 514: That's for sure
[4/16/17, 3:58:17 PM] ptb: Calix maybe
[4/16/17, 3:58:24 PM] ptb: I'm thinking Brendan though
[4/16/17, 3:58:28 PM] ptb: For some reason
[4/16/17, 3:58:36 PM] ptb: They made a very specific threat
[4/16/17, 3:58:56 PM] ptb: "This will come back to bite you when you least expect it regardless of roles"
[4/16/17, 4:00:07 PM] Mesk 514: Lol wtf
[4/16/17, 4:00:24 PM] ptb: I know
[4/16/17, 4:00:32 PM] ptb: I was like I'm the not the one you threaten
[4/16/17, 4:00:55 PM] Mesk 514: Little do they know we are scum and jokes on them
[4/16/17, 4:02:00 PM] ptb: I got helmet jokes
[4/16/17, 4:30:35 PM] ptb: We did it cam
[4/16/17, 4:30:40 PM] ptb: Fam *
[4/16/17, 4:31:02 PM] ptb: Fury just signed his own death warrant
[4/16/17, 4:31:38 PM] ptb: When saving fury had to fold effect
[4/16/17, 5:24:19 PM] ptb: Two*
[4/16/17, 5:30:08 PM] ptb: And this is great because we have 3 of our 4 votes needed Bc the lawyer will assume I'm with fury and sinon will push it and you called fury Scum and suntax will go along
[4/16/17, 6:51:45 PM] ptb: Just got off work, gonna submit my night action and write sinon a list of instructions and then I'm officially done
[4/16/17, 6:52:15 PM] ptb: Well going to Easter dinner first
[4/16/17, 7:19:21 PM] Mesk 514: Oh you wanna convert tonight?
[4/16/17, 7:27:58 PM] ptb: Yeah 100%
[4/16/17, 8:20:08 PM] ptb: we used all the ML's they're in a LYLO situation
[4/16/17, 8:20:14 PM] ptb: if I convert
[4/16/17, 8:20:23 PM] ptb: if not they won't lynch or I get lynched
[4/16/17, 8:20:33 PM] ptb: There's no way I'm not blown
[4/16/17, 8:21:00 PM] ptb: But it's good they only had 3 lynches, I got them to use two of them, and we shipped the first 1
[4/16/17, 8:21:23 PM] ptb: So I ask you, I'm set on sinon but who do YOU want as your fan?
[4/16/17, 8:28:50 PM] ptb: Yeah I think sinon* is our best chance. And he can convincingly push a fury train.
[4/16/17, 9:14:48 PM] ptb: Let Sinon have dis. I can't post links
[4/16/17, 9:15:01 PM] ptb: Hi Sinon

Welcome to what should be the winning team (seriously, you guys are one lynch away.)

Ok, first things first. If you can, convert Suntax, I believe you both deserve to win this game, without you I wouldn't have been able to do the things I got done.

Secondly, sorry for all the deception :P

This is how I think you should play this gem I handed y'all.

1. Push my and fury connection AS MUCH as possible. He's low hanging fruit. But don't overextend, however, do fall on the sword if you have to. Lynching you still puts them in a bad position. I have faith in you. Fury is our go to lynch, but IF you get into trouble, you should pivot everything I'm about to give you ONTO THE LAWYER. CCANTman is a no lynch zone, suntax is a possibility, but it's doubtful. I really think you can get fury easily. You only need 4 votes and you have 2 of them. The lawyer will be so happy he/she was right about me that they'll believe their own reads and then you can pull suntax right in.

2. Here's a list of posts you can use to push this ML. I linked the super important ones so you can quote.

#481
#604 (this one you can say you should have listened to whad.)
#610 (ptb claims wont fight for fury but ends up spending the rest of the day fighting for fury.)
#619 (refuses to vote fury)
#627
#641
#650
#653
#662
#665 https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684055
#694 https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684084
#709 (push THAT I told the truth but I WIFOM'd so no one believed me) https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684099
#714
#728 HUGE fury defense AFTER said he wouldn't defend fury https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684120
#837 THE LAWYER GOT IT RIGHT https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684323
#854 https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684341
#864 https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684351 <<<<probably most important post
#867 Tries to downplay saving fury, https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post684354


3. I trust you buddy. I think you'll do great, god speed and good luck.

Also, below I said you were getting on my nerves because I felt you'd be an obstacle to scum success (good job lol!)

Love,

PTB
[4/16/17, 9:15:26 PM] Mesk 514: Okk
[4/16/17, 9:18:21 PM] ptb: ok I put Skype group link in the scum chat
[4/16/17, 9:18:26 PM] ptb: so he can have access to here
[4/16/17, 9:18:45 PM] ptb: or gylrander can you send him the scum link chat and the Skype chat in his conversion letter?
[4/16/17, 9:18:48 PM] ptb: Oh mask I wrote a LW
[4/16/17, 9:19:54 PM] ptb: tell me if u want me to change it
[4/16/17, 9:19:54 PM] ptb: Well friends,

Sorry to disappoint. But yes, twas I the lady gaga fan. My mother monster will win the day

Whad, I am sorry, I had high hopes for you to take my place...but you became a liability...you'll never know how close you were to solving the game. But you had to be snuffed out!


Until next time.

I'm on the edge of glory

-PTB
[4/17/17, 12:31:18 AM] ptb: did u like my lw?
[4/17/17, 2:19:07 AM] Mesk 514: Yes
[4/17/17, 5:30:56 PM] Felix ~: Do you guys know
[4/17/17, 5:30:59 PM] Felix ~: if Sinon has skype?
[4/17/17, 5:31:02 PM] Felix ~: Or do you guys have it?
[4/17/17, 5:31:33 PM] Mesk 514: We have no clue
[4/17/17, 5:31:45 PM] Mesk 514: Give him this Skype chat link
[4/17/17, 5:31:50 PM] Mesk 514: In his pm
[4/17/17, 5:31:51 PM] Felix ~: kk
[4/17/17, 5:32:02 PM] Felix ~: I'll have to ask him if he actually has skype/wants to use it lmao
[4/17/17, 5:32:28 PM] Mesk 514: Yeah but according to ptb we can't post links in qt
[4/17/17, 5:32:30 PM] Mesk 514: So
[4/17/17, 5:32:38 PM] Mesk 514: If that's the case and he doesn't have skype
[4/17/17, 5:32:49 PM] Mesk 514: You have to pass ptbs message along plz
[4/17/17, 5:32:52 PM] Mesk 514: Via pm
[4/17/17, 5:32:59 PM] Felix ~: Yeah don't worry
[4/17/17, 5:33:06 PM] Felix ~: I'll send the main ones if he refuses to use skype
[4/17/17, 5:33:34 PM] Mesk 514: Ok thx
[4/17/17, 5:34:28 PM] ptb: I posted in the main one too
[4/17/17, 5:34:36 PM] ptb: But I just couldn't put links
[4/17/17, 5:34:54 PM] ptb: You might wanna give him both links Bc I didn't put everything in both chats
[4/17/17, 5:35:49 PM] ptb: Also it was an honor to serve you mother monster
[4/17/17, 5:45:39 PM] Mesk 514: (heart) (heart) (inlove)
[4/17/17, 5:47:38 PM] ptb:
[4/17/17, 5:53:13 PM] ptb: I'm scared to die, will it hurt mama?
[4/17/17, 5:59:16 PM] Felix ~: From now on, you can't talk here PTB
[4/17/17, 6:00:00 PM] Mesk 514: Can he have death by overdose plz
[4/17/17, 6:00:16 PM] Felix ~: Too late >>
[4/18/17, 4:00:02 PM] ptb: do we care about releasing scum Skype chat?
[4/18/17, 4:00:17 PM] Felix ~: If you want to
[4/18/17, 4:02:10 PM] ptb: Yeah i will