S-FM 211 : Three Foes and a Stranger

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S-FM 211 :
Three Foes and a Strangers
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In the Absolute Serious Republic of Arizona were a small random town that none has heard of called Gunlurk.
Everyone were peaceful in Gunlurk, most were focused on playing silly games on their mobile phones.
Guns were banned in 2019 and so there were no criminal activity at all...
... That is until the fateful day of 2020 when a band of three gangsters came in town and started blazing bullets all over the towns people.
The police arrived to stop them only to be peppered down by the tommy guns.
Satisfied with the random killing spree, the three gangsters quickly disguised themselves as members of the town.
Will the special snowflakes of Gunlurk find and kill the three gangsters?
Luckily one of them captured a totally not taken from internet photo of the gangsters using their windows phone.
Now go find them, We guess.



WARNING : LYNCH ENABLED

Messages has been given to archons, not the main accounts.

Also, a friendly reminder on rules.

Rules :

• No persistent lurking and inactivity, host decides if a player is acting too lurkish or if they're being too inactive.
• No overly excessive fluff and non-serious material, some may work out but not too much. Day 1 may be forgiven.
• No Out of Game communications (Skype, private message, other threads, omegle, et cetera)
• No editing and deleting of posts.
• Do not screenshot private messages.
• Do not directly quote the host PM's.
• Do not gamethrow, you are to play your win condition.
• No personal attacks.
• Videos are only allowed in spoilers. [Spoiler=Video]
• Images are allowed as long they're not too big.
• Write in english so players may understand you.
• Follow the forum rules.
• Do not threaten to break any of the rules.

Shortcuts :
- Day 1 (OP)
- Night 1
- Day 2
- Night 2
- Day 3
- Night 3
- Day 4 Victory


Graveyard :
- Random Policerinos (RP)



Alive Players :
@JealousTL
@Drizzt
@Eggy
@Gyrlander
@Mesk514
@Quick
@SecondLynch
@Snorlax
@Stereo
@Unknown1234
@Yukitaka Oni
@deathworlds
@MattZed



Happy Reserves :
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DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS

7 votes to hammer.

[Yukitaka Oni]

b)o.o)^ first!

[Snorlax]

Last.

Anyway, I'll start off with an opening message to the new players and smurfs in the game.

1. Don't be afraid to post your opinions on the game. Even if you're unsure of something, saying as much or trying to talk through your thought process is a lot better than not posting. (it helps the town get a read on you)

2. If you think someone is scummy or made an odd post, you should 100% be questioning them about it.

3. Remember that most of the players you'll be talking to are town. Don't immediately assume that just because someone is playing badly means that they are mafia. It's good to view what people are posting from a town/ mafia perspective to see which one makes the most sense. (think "why would X alignment post this? What are they saying and trying to achieve here? Could they have an agenda behind posting this? What's the context?")

4. Don't randomly role-claim just because someone is suspecting/ pressuring you. This just helps the scum narrow down what townies have what roles a lot more easily.

(in fact, best not to give out your role unless you are close to being lynched and people are asking you for it. And even then, be cautious about doing that)

5. To the Citizens, these points are especially applicable because citizens are there to take the hit for TPRs. The more players help the town, the easier it is to find the scum.

6. Feel free to give a read on what my alignment could be based off this post if you want somewhere to start off

7. And if you're confused on anything, feel free to ask us or the host any questions.

[SecondLynch]

hi~

[SecondLynch]

I'm a special snowflake too!

[Snorlax]

hi~

Hi!

-vote SecondLynch

[SecondLynch]

Last.

Anyway, I'll start off with an opening message to the new players and smurfs in the game.

1. Don't be afraid to post your opinions on the game. Even if you're unsure of something, saying as much or trying to talk through your thought process is a lot better than not posting. (it helps the town get a read on you)

2. If you think someone is scummy or made an odd post, you should 100% be questioning them about it.

3. Remember that most of the players you'll be talking to are town. Don't immediately assume that just because someone is playing badly means that they are mafia. It's good to view what people are posting from a town/ mafia perspective to see which one makes the most sense. (think "why would X alignment post this? What are they saying and trying to achieve here? Could they have an agenda behind posting this? What's the context?")

4. Don't randomly role-claim just because someone is suspecting/ pressuring you. This just helps the scum narrow down what townies have what roles a lot more easily.

(in fact, best not to give out your role unless you are close to being lynched and people are asking you for it. And even then, be cautious about doing that)

5. To the Citizens, these points are especially applicable because citizens are there to take the hit for TPRs. The more players help the town, the easier it is to find the scum.

6. Feel free to give a read on what my alignment could be based off this post if you want somewhere to start off

7. And if you're confused on anything, feel free to ask us or the host any questions.

#Pocketing

-vote deathworlds

APPA!

[Snorlax]

#Pocketing

-vote deathworlds

APPA!

That's the only thing you had to say in response to a wall-post of mine?

Your pocketing attempt sucks. At least pretend that you read it next time.

[SecondLynch]

Hi!

-vote SecondLynch

Calix, if you are still interested in my offer of meeting Mr. Rope on your birthday, just let me know. I can fix a date between you too.

[Mesk514]

Alright then, another game another chance for everyone to rip on my meta

[Snorlax]

Someone's a little defensive, eh Mesk?

[SecondLynch]

Sup Mesk.

[Snorlax]

Calix, if you are still interested in my offer of meeting Mr. Rope on your birthday, just let me know. I can fix a date between you too.

Holy shit, I didn't realise I had a choice. This is new.

[SecondLynch]

Hi!

-vote SecondLynch

Hi Snorlax, didn't know you liked pokemon.

[Mesk514]

Jesus, too many accounts with names that ive never seen.

Uh... me? Defensive? Nah l not even. Just know there is always a price to pay. You wanna rip on me, fine. But this time I'm charging

[Snorlax]

Hi Snorlax, didn't know you liked pokemon.

I don't. I am taking the piss out of the Pokemon-themed smurf accounts.

Why are you only commenting on irrelevant things so far?

Jesus, too many accounts with names that ive never seen.

Uh... me? Defensive? Nah l not even. Just know there is always a price to pay. You wanna rip on me, fine. But this time I'm charging

You're arguing that "oh no, I'm going to get scum-read based on meta again" is not defensive? K.

I'd like to see this. Go on, do it.

[Mesk514]

Oh Jesus this is Calix.

Ugh, just read between the line -.-

I dont see how stating that I now demand to get paid when I'm ripped on is seen as being defensive.

[Mesk514]

Read between the lines**

[Snorlax]

Oh Jesus this is Calix.

Ugh, just read between the line -.-

I dont see how stating that I now demand to get paid when I'm ripped on is seen as being defensive.

Incisive as ever, I see.

You should vote for Second Lynch. Both players combined are being more useless than you. That's saying something :*

[Mesk514]

Ouuuuuh SHOTS FIRED
BANG BANG BANG

eh, can't complain about free shots, but i'll pass on placing a vote for now. Anyways, back to school.

[Yukitaka Oni]

The party is not full. Seem like i should be gone awhile as well

[Gyrlander]

Woooo!! This finally started

[Snorlax]

I can't wait for the flood of top-notch Gyrlander posts which I'm sure exist in abundance.

[Gyrlander]

I can't wait for the flood of top-notch Gyrlander posts which I'm sure exist in abundance.

I don't remember a Pokemon appart from Char Chat the Charmeleon signing up for this game.

[Snorlax]

I don't remember a Pokemon appart from Char Chat the Charmeleon signing up for this game.

Nah, I am a h-y-d-r-a. I'm the one-and-only Calix.

Now go do something alignment-indicative so that I don't have to consider policy-lynching you, kthx.

SecondLynch is also a h-y-d-r-a.

[Unknown1234]

I have really discovered my appreciation for sheep quite recently.

[Stereo]

Hi my name is Stereo. I am new. Let's lynch the scum.

[Snorlax]

Hi my name is Stereo. I am new. Let's lynch the scum.

You've figured out how to post. Good start.

Any thoughts on how you are going to do that? Or if any of the scum you want to lynch have posted yet?
@Stereo

[Unknown1234]

Hi my name is Stereo. I am new. Let's lynch the scum.

1.) States Intention. Check.

2.) Completes Intention. Not Yet.

You are 50% done reaching your goal, good job!!

[Stereo]

Any thoughts on how you are going to do that? Or if any of the scum you want to lynch have posted yet?

How am I going to do it? I have power in the vote, as all of us do.

At the moment, there's really nothing of substance. Second and you are the only people who have really done anything that can be read, but at the moment I don't see anything there. You are probing Mesk at the moment.

There may be a Day 1 Lynch, but I don't think Day 1 is an appropriate time for us to be lynching.

[Unknown1234]

How am I going to do it? I have power in the vote, as all of us do.

At the moment, there's really nothing of substance. Second and you are the only people who have really done anything that can be read, but at the moment I don't see anything there. You are probing Mesk at the moment.

There may be a Day 1 Lynch, but I don't think Day 1 is an appropriate time for us to be lynching.

What makes you say that Day 1 is a bad lynching time for town?

[Snorlax]

How am I going to do it? I have power in the vote, as all of us do.

At the moment, there's really nothing of substance. Second and you are the only people who have really done anything that can be read, but at the moment I don't see anything there. You are probing Mesk at the moment.

There may be a Day 1 Lynch, but I don't think Day 1 is an appropriate time for us to be lynching.

You can try to participate in Random Voting Stage (where you vote for someone for flimsy/ trolly reasoning to try and start discussion) if you want to put your money where your mouth is.

Why don't you think a Day 1 Lynch is appropriate?

Should probably note that FM games don't have a lot of TPRs and things like a Sheriff revealing a Mafia are rare compared to the mod

[Stereo]

What makes you say that Day 1 is a bad lynching time for town?

Statistically speaking, it usually does not end well for us.

[Stereo]

And by end well I mean, killing a townie. All life is precious.

[Unknown1234]

Statistically speaking, it usually does not end well for us.

Well, I can understand where you're going with that, but I do not agree.

1.) If you think someone is scum, lynching them narrows the pool of players who are less suspicious opposed to the more suspicious.

2.) Lynching means we have a chance to lynch a scum. If you don't lynch you don't have that chance.

3.) We (usually) get something to work with after such lynch. There could be two suspects and we don't know who to lynch, or we get a scum and catch connections.

Overall, Lynching is much more beneficial for me.

[Snorlax]

Most setups are designed on the assumption that the town mislynches on Day 1. While mislynching is bad in the sense that the town is down a member, we shouldn't settle for a No Lynch because it means that we cannot adequately pressure the scum into revealing information/ slipping.

As it stands, I'm thinking Mesk, Stereo, Unknown are town and Second Lynch is scummy. Not a bad start even if it's slow.

[Gyrlander]

Nah, I am a h-y-d-r-a. I'm the one-and-only Calix.

Now go do something alignment-indicative so that I don't have to consider policy-lynching you, kthx.

SecondLynch is also a h-y-d-r-a.

Do you like spelling *****? Does it feel reconfortating fighting against the rules made by Crypt or what?

[Gyrlander]

EXCUSE ME. ***** IS CORRECTED?

[Snorlax]

Gyrlander, when I asked you to do something alignment-indicative, I didn't mean "shitpost like you're in M-FM Overwatch as scum"

[Gyrlander]

Gyrlander, when I asked you to do something alignment-indicative, I didn't mean "shitpost like you're in M-FM Overwatch as scum"

We still haven't gone through page 1 and you already want me to do something productive? Damn.

-vote Mesk514

Always wanted to do this.

[Snorlax]

We still haven't gone through page 1 and you already want me to do something productive? Damn.

-vote Mesk514

Always wanted to do this.

Correct. Sorting players is going to be difficult enough; I have no patience for you fucking around.

Love ya and all but I'd rather get a read on your slot ASAP so get cracking.

Do you have an opinion on anything Mesk has said so far?

[Gyrlander]

Correct. Sorting players is going to be difficult enough; I have no patience for you fucking around.

Love ya and all but I'd rather get a read on your slot ASAP so get cracking.

Do you have an opinion on anything Mesk has said so far?

Nah. I just did a random vote. We're still at that stage... right?

[Snorlax]

Nah. I just did a random vote. We're still at that stage... right?

Technically.

I'll amend my question. Do you have an opinion on anything relevant to the game?

You are allowed to be wrong.

[Stereo]

1.) If you think someone is scum, lynching them narrows the pool of players who are less suspicious opposed to the more suspicious.

We have power roles for a reason, like Sheriff and Investigator. While we shouldn't have to crutch on them, its still only Day 1.

2.) Lynching means we have a chance to lynch a scum. If you don't lynch you don't have that chance.

There's like a 1/3 chance of us getting a scumbag. I don't like those numbers, especially for Day 1 with power roles included in the town. If its a townie, we have given the Mafia or (potentially and, depending on which neutral we got) the Neutral 1 less person to kill.

3.) We (usually) get something to work with after such lynch. There could be two suspects and we don't know who to lynch, or we get a scum and catch connections.

That's great, and I can see the logic, but its still Day 1. We're still waiting on how many people to even post? Things aren't in full swing yet. (Unless this is about what I'm supposed to expect from a Day 1.)

That's just how I feel in regards to the Day 1 lynch.

[Snorlax]

We have power roles for a reason, like Sheriff and Investigator. While we shouldn't have to crutch on them, its still only Day 1.

A. Relying on TPRs in FM games is almost-always going to end poorly. Night actions don't win games. Being proactive in the chat does.

While I disagree with the premise of your posts, you have the right mindset when you are defending your viewpoint and explaining where you are coming from. Good attitude to have to find players who are acting suspiciously in the chat.

tl;dr: Forget TPRs. Pretend that they don't exist and that the chat is the ONLY thing you have to find scum. You'll be ten times more effective at finding and lynching scum. Even better, the TPRs get more information to inform their night actions with.

It's a win-win.

Even if you don't want to lynch, it's still best to act like you do so that anyone you pressure will respond accordingly.

[Stereo]

A. Relying on TPRs in FM games is almost-always going to end poorly. Night actions don't win games. Being proactive in the chat does.

This is my first Mafia game on a forum, it doesn't strike me well that we're supposed to ignore(?) our power roles. They exist for a reason, and they are tools for us. I definitely see what you're saying, but I am not saying we don't act until a power role gives us something of substance.

It's a win-win.

Its day 1 and not everyone has posted. We're not winning yet.

Even if you don't want to lynch, it's still best to act like you do so that anyone you pressure will respond accordingly.

I'll vote to pressure, sure, but I won't let myself be included in a lynch on the first day.

[Unknown1234]

This is my first Mafia game on a forum, it doesn't strike me well that we're supposed to ignore(?) our power roles. They exist for a reason, and they are tools for us. I definitely see what you're saying, but I am not saying we don't act until a power role gives us something of substance.


Its day 1 and not everyone has posted. We're not winning yet.


I'll vote to pressure, sure, but I won't let myself be included in a lynch on the first day.

You seem to be too reliant, but let's look at this in another approach.

You don't know what TPR we have, therefore you cannot know if they will be of value or not. Not to mention that anything could go wrong, (check someone who dies, die, get no result,) which is suggesting we have a role it's possible we do not.

Secondly, people are in different timezones and could be busy at this moment. Don't expect it to be super active immediately.

I don't see a reason why you should be super close-minded about lynching today. If you find somebody scummy that you could lynch over checking them, why wouldn't you?

[Snorlax]

This is my first Mafia game on a forum, it doesn't strike me well that we're supposed to ignore(?) our power roles. They exist for a reason, and they are tools for us. I definitely see what you're saying, but I am not saying we don't act until a power role gives us something of substance.


Its day 1 and not everyone has posted. We're not winning yet.


I'll vote to pressure, sure, but I won't let myself be included in a lynch on the first day.

Obviously if a TPR has a damning night result, then we should use that. I am saying that we should not sit around and wait for one to happen, but if you agree on that point then I am satisfied.

(although if a Sheriff finds a Mafia on Night 1, they shouldn't reveal it first thing on Day 2. Trying to get the mafia lynched without revealing > revealing straight away because that yields more information about who defends the mafia. It also means the mafia are less likely to catch onto the person being Sheriff and thus cannot counter the Sheriff with their Framer/ Consort/ whatever as easily)

Site is slow activity-wise. School has just started and a lot of the players here are low-posters. (which is why you have to work to analyse what they do post) I am most likely going to be the most active player in the game.

One problem there - saying you only vote for pressure nullifies the pressure that you can apply with your vote ;p

[Stereo]

One problem there - saying you only vote for pressure nullifies the pressure that you can apply with your vote ;p

Well... dangers. That only would have been for today anyway. Day 2 is free game for me.

[Snorlax]

If that's your stance, then fair enough. I'll just drop a scum case that's so convincing that you'll consider it better than an alignment check, so no problem.

I think you're town and this discussion has served its purpose in my opinion, so I'm going to drop it unless you want to ask me anything.

If I were you, I'd check in from time to time to see if any of the other players appear and question them while they're around.

It's getting late my time.