S-FM: ???? Gamethread

[NoctiZ]

I forgot, did NoctiZ mention the last part of that feedback?

Uh yeah.. this is literally one of the main arguments I based my vote on Stealthbomber16 on for the last day. I repeated that quite a few times and we argued over the meaning of what that meant. Although at that time I was more inclined to push for SB16 even if it was a mislynch. Today I'm more open about SB16, especially because Goatse did receive the feedback I got word for word.

[NoctiZ]

@GoatseOntheCupboard

why do u have grenades?

Wido claimed giving grenades to Goatse. I quoted that post earlier in my role list compilation.

[GoatseOntheCupboard]

Ul i did not offer any kind of drink to otaku weeb man, I gave RLVG a coke zero with ice during day 2 (night action is get the drink, day action to give it out), which he seemed to receive at the start of this day

[RLVG]

Ul i did not offer any kind of drink to otaku weeb man, I gave RLVG a coke zero with ice during day 2 (night action is get the drink, day action to give it out), which he seemed to receive at the start of this day

It's still a fucking weird role. What if it's poisoned?

[NoctiZ]

Ul i did not offer any kind of drink to otaku weeb man, I gave RLVG a coke zero with ice during day 2 (night action is get the drink, day action to give it out), which he seemed to receive at the start of this day

It looks like the timeline is: You give RLVG D2, RLVG gives it Otaku N2, Otaku gives it to me D3 I think. And you are probably going to give someone else another drink this day, right?

[PowersThatBe]

Sure I pushed, but I didn't vote you. I would vote you if I made a real legitimate case. This was pressuring you into an interaction to hear your thoughts and you're acting overly defensive from my point of view here all for just saying that you couldn't be ruled out 100% of being Merlin or Morgan. More on the feedback below.



First line of this post would be relevant if that's your real mechanic. We're arguing the situation if you had immunity mechanics by being Morgan.

Second line of this post is also only true if you're really what you claim. Otherwise you do have a reason to lie. How can't you see that your own claimed role mechanic makes you suspicious by itself? No one can confirm you. Only a tracker would. But no one seemingly used their tracker on you as Voss and I didn't and there is no other TPR that can track. I can rule you out as Merlin now with SJ's results because Merlin doesn't have all that immunity jazz I believe. But a Morgan possibility is still there.

Also I ain't apologizing for shit. You're a big boy, you can live with being called dumb. However I sure hope the other players aren't having suicidal thoughts after what you told them this game..

Whatever. I've been consistent since I started. You have 0 credibility since you pushed a false narrative, claimed SJ said he misunderstood. It seems you never even spoke to your own team about what abilities you all have.

Maybe I'm Morgan. But how do you explain Morgan taking action N1 when no one was in this slot due to the person being afk, and having to be subbed. You can claim that I could have subbed in earlier, but guess what? I was asked/or saw their message 5 minutes before the thread opened for Day 2.

Believe me or don't believe i'm Morgan or don't. All you've done is said I'm probably Merlin or Morgan and I pushed low hanging fruit (which I didn't).

Yeah, I'm so sure people are going to have suicidal thoughts because I told them thy were useless in a game where they don't read and cant grasp the simple concept of reading and participating. Funny enough. This now includes you, you've lied all game, you're on a scum team.

I think SJ is probably Morgan and you were trying to confirm if I'm Merlin so you could kill me and be one step closer to winning. But sadly for and mostly me, we're currently aligned. The real kicker is I need you more than you need me.

If anyone is feeling a particular way about how I've treated them. Online bullying is a problem. Here's a number. It's the suicide hotline, get help if you need it. 1-800-273-8255

There I've done my saintly duties for the day.

Can we scum hunt now? Thanks.

Oh, and I'm not "overly defensive" this is my default setting. Deal with it.

[PowersThatBe]

Wido claimed giving grenades to Goatse. I quoted that post earlier in my role list compilation.

NO WIDO TOOK THE GRENADE FROM GOATSEE AND GAVE IT TO VOSS.

wtf game are you even playing?

[GoatseOntheCupboard]

You were in a strange dimension last night, you had no other human contact that night.
You were in a strange dimension last night, you had no other human contact that night.
You were in a strange dimension last night, you had no other human contact that night.
I DIDNT GET MY DRINK, I WAS IN A MAGICAL PLACE

[NoctiZ]

NO WIDO TOOK THE GRENADE FROM GOATSEE AND GAVE IT TO VOSS.

wtf game are you even playing?

What?

Use the unholy item on GoatseOntheCupboard

And give the grenade to Voss number 5

I am tpr... I can give a person a item while using a number in which causes them item to change...

[GoatseOntheCupboard]

SB16 is really playing up this "my slot was afk n1 so I cannot be morgan xD" despite us not even knowing if this is true HmmmmmmhmmMmmmmmmMmmMMMmmm
lots of noobs afk and do night actions in the mod
HmmmMmmMmMMMmMMmMmmmMmm
what kind of TOWN role can put people in a strange dimension... doesnt seem to fit RP text
::thinking face""

[NoctiZ]

Whatever. I've been consistent since I started. You have 0 credibility since you pushed a false narrative, claimed SJ said he misunderstood. It seems you never even spoke to your own team about what abilities you all have.

Maybe I'm Morgan. But how do you explain Morgan taking action N1 when no one was in this slot due to the person being afk, and having to be subbed. You can claim that I could have subbed in earlier, but guess what? I was asked/or saw their message 5 minutes before the thread opened for Day 2.

Believe me or don't believe i'm Morgan or don't. All you've done is said I'm probably Merlin or Morgan and I pushed low hanging fruit (which I didn't).

Yeah, I'm so sure people are going to have suicidal thoughts because I told them thy were useless in a game where they don't read and cant grasp the simple concept of reading and participating. Funny enough. This now includes you, you've lied all game, you're on a scum team.

I think SJ is probably Morgan and you were trying to confirm if I'm Merlin so you could kill me and be one step closer to winning. But sadly for and mostly me, we're currently aligned. The real kicker is I need you more than you need me.

If anyone is feeling a particular way about how I've treated them. Online bullying is a problem. Here's a number. It's the suicide hotline, get help if you need it. 1-800-273-8255

There I've done my saintly duties for the day.

Can we scum hunt now? Thanks.

Oh, and I'm not "overly defensive" this is my default setting. Deal with it.

HAHAHHA holy shit, how did you go from "no one CC'd SJ and NoctiZ so they are Red Team Scum" to "SJ is probably Morgan" so fast? That's hilarious as hell. You should listen to yourself. Anyway, I'm gonna follow what SJ said because talking to you is not productive at all. And you're exploding at every little thing, freaking annoying..

[NoctiZ]

SB16 is really playing up this "my slot was afk n1 so I cannot be morgan xD" despite us not even knowing if this is true HmmmmmmhmmMmmmmmmMmmMMMmmm
lots of noobs afk and do night actions in the mod
HmmmMmmMmMMMmMMmMmmmMmm
what kind of TOWN role can put people in a strange dimension... doesnt seem to fit RP text
::thinking face""

PTB is playing up the "afk n1" argument. Stealthbomber is the RB claimer.

The text for roleblocking is indeed weird but there doesn't seem to be any concrete proof at this point that SB16 is not what he claims to be after we got the second round of feedbacks and the feedback by you was claimed.

[Voss]

Maybe I'm Morgan. But how do you explain Morgan taking action N1 when no one was in this slot due to the person being afk, and having to be subbed. You can claim that I could have subbed in earlier, but guess what? I was asked/or saw their message 5 minutes before the thread opened for Day 2.

maybe morgan's scum team made you do actions. or maybe you didn't sub in 5 minutes before thread opened. And to go back on this would be to admit scum.

STOP USING THIS AS EVIDENCE AS ITS OGI.

[PowersThatBe]

What?

Did u read the quote or just repost it?

Let me break it down for the reading challenged.

Wido used unholy item on goatsee (that she bought from the shop) = no idea what it did.

Wido CLAIMED TPR with the power to GIVE an ITEM to someone. SHE GAVE IT TO VOSS.

I originally thought she took the item for goatsee.

YOU said she gave the item to GOAT. SHE DID NOT. She gave it to VOSS. Voss confirmed this.

@widomakr -- how does your ability work? Where do you get the items from?

[Voss]

maybe morgan's scum team made you do actions. or maybe you didn't sub in 5 minutes before thread opened. And to go back on this would be to admit scum.

STOP USING THIS AS EVIDENCE AS ITS OGI.

and please. don't rail on me being stupid for thinking you're morgan. I'M NOT SAYING THIS. I'm ONLY asking you to stop using this as EVIDENCE.

[PowersThatBe]

HAHAHHA holy shit, how did you go from "no one CC'd SJ and NoctiZ so they are Red Team Scum" to "SJ is probably Morgan" so fast? That's hilarious as hell. You should listen to yourself. Anyway, I'm gonna follow what SJ said because talking to you is not productive at all. And you're exploding at every little thing, freaking annoying..

b/c morgan can be part of the RED TEAM. God damnit.

I stated this in my 6 potential role break downs.

READ

THE

GAME


SJ even softed this when he said "damn you for not telling us win cons till day 3." so to me he regretted destroying the shop.

[PowersThatBe]

SB16 is really playing up this "my slot was afk n1 so I cannot be morgan xD" despite us not even knowing if this is true HmmmmmmhmmMmmmmmmMmmMMMmmm
lots of noobs afk and do night actions in the mod
HmmmMmmMmMMMmMMmMmmmMmm
what kind of TOWN role can put people in a strange dimension... doesnt seem to fit RP text
::thinking face""

I'M ptb not SB16 wtf.

[PowersThatBe]

HAHAHHA holy shit, how did you go from "no one CC'd SJ and NoctiZ so they are Red Team Scum" to "SJ is probably Morgan" so fast? That's hilarious as hell. You should listen to yourself. Anyway, I'm gonna follow what SJ said because talking to you is not productive at all. And you're exploding at every little thing, freaking annoying..

Bro, you don't comprehend or read the game it seems. Again, SJ is NK IMMUNE B/C OF HIS ALLIES. RLVG IS ALSO NIGHT IMMUNE BECAUSE OF HIS ALLIES.

There is more evidence to prove your team has Morgan, than there is to say that I am Morgan. I'm using your own arguments against you.

[PowersThatBe]

and please. don't rail on me being stupid for thinking you're morgan. I'M NOT SAYING THIS. I'm ONLY asking you to stop using this as EVIDENCE.

You're stupid.

[PowersThatBe]

All I've learned is with all of my allies combined, you guys equal maybe MAYBE one IQ point.

(not u SJ love u bb even if ur morgan)

[NoctiZ]

Did u read the quote or just repost it?

Let me break it down for the reading challenged.

Wido used unholy item on goatsee (that she bought from the shop) = no idea what it did.

Wido CLAIMED TPR with the power to GIVE an ITEM to someone. SHE GAVE IT TO VOSS.

I originally thought she took the item for goatsee.

YOU said she gave the item to GOAT. SHE DID NOT. She gave it to VOSS. Voss confirmed this.

@widomakr -- how does your ability work? Where do you get the items from?

It's your fault for claiming Goatse had a grenade. I didn't keep in mind who she gave the grenade to and when I read your question to Goatse I thought his feedback included a grenade since you asked him about it. Which didn't make sense to me if it wasn't wido giving it to Goatse because wido's ability as she claimed it was only giving something and not taking. Holy shit, stop exploding over everything so we can finally have a civil tone in this. It worked well on D1 and D2.

b/c morgan can be part of the RED TEAM. God damnit.

I stated this in my 6 potential role break downs.

READ

THE

GAME


SJ even softed this when he said "damn you for not telling us win cons till day 3." so to me he regretted destroying the shop.

No, judging from our opinions in the night chat, he regretted shooting Hybrid as we all knew he had to be town. Classic Hybrid town play. 5 town deaths are too many and Hybrid wouldn't have died if we had known we could work together. Atleast I would have advised against it and I'm pretty sure SJ knew he was town also.

[SuperJack]

All I've learned is with all of my allies combined, you guys equal maybe MAYBE one IQ point.

(not u SJ love u bb even if ur morgan)

I'm not Morgan. Morgan is not in the Red Scum Team.

[Voss]

honestly noctiz, just stop responding to PTB. he's too toxic right now.

[NoctiZ]

honestly noctiz, just stop responding to PTB. he's too toxic right now.

That'd work for me if it wasn't a FM game. The problem comes when you can assume that it's his strategy to persuade everyone through his "emotional" attitude that he's pro town and that your arguments are literally too stupid and he starts discrediting your character instead of your arguments. Or both if he knows how to do so. Seen it all..

[Voss]

That'd work for me if it wasn't a FM game. The problem comes when you can assume that it's his strategy to persuade everyone through his "emotional" attitude that he's pro town and that your arguments are literally too stupid and he starts discrediting your character instead of your arguments. Or both if he knows how to do so. Seen it all..

wait so where was the benefit in continued engagement lolol

[Voss]

"I am surprised by this information" - nobody, ever

-vote BananaCucho

[RLVG]

... 'Sup Banana?

[PowersThatBe]

It's your fault for claiming Goatse had a grenade. I didn't keep in mind who she gave the grenade to and when I read your question to Goatse I thought his feedback included a grenade since you asked him about it. Which didn't make sense to me if it wasn't wido giving it to Goatse because wido's ability as she claimed it was only giving something and not taking. Holy shit, stop exploding over everything so we can finally have a civil tone in this. It worked well on D1 and D2.



No, judging from our opinions in the night chat, he regretted shooting Hybrid as we all knew he had to be town. Classic Hybrid town play. 5 town deaths are too many and Hybrid wouldn't have died if we had known we could work together. Atleast I would have advised against it and I'm pretty sure SJ knew he was town also.

Ok but you still don't understand that SJ could still be Morgan. His immunity is tied to you and your ally, which is why you won't give up the ally. I'm not asking you to. You've also made several incorrect statements, even pertaining to your own team. Do you see how I can be frustrated? Town is at a make or break point right now. We could either get a good lynch today or ML. Your NK might be a miskill. Which doesn't hurt you. You can win without town. Town at this point is at the mercy of a scum faction.

So I'm frustrated because you have constantly gotten things wrong, even about your own team. You even quoted what Wido said, and instead of correcting me that she didn't take the item, you used it as evidence that she gave the item to goatsee which she didnt.

You said SJ said things he didn't say. I get your scum, and you don' have to read really or care, because hey if town purple and neutral kill each other, good for us (red team) right?

Now if you're not going to play the game as a town person (essentially you're an extension of the town right now) instead of a half paying attention scum, then just sit back, shut up, and let SJ's vote dictate your actions in the day time. Because right now, all you're doing is hurting the town by bringing you and I to a 1v1 tunnel which is pointless because for me it's 100% confirmed we're on the same side.

I'm not exploding at little things. I'm exploding at huge mistakes your making, that are creating false narratives, and that distract from the game.

Once again. Either play as town and do your research or get out of the way so the adults can solve the game.

Please read this in a very calm but direct tone.

Thank you.

[PowersThatBe]

Breaking site rules to be a cunt. Wow.

[Voss]

I am part of the new twist this day! Host announcement soon

ahahhahaa i love it.

[RLVG]

I will flip the fuck out if there's a 17th player going all smash-bros "NEW CHALLENGER HAS APPEARED".

[PowersThatBe]

That'd work for me if it wasn't a FM game. The problem comes when you can assume that it's his strategy to persuade everyone through his "emotional" attitude that he's pro town and that your arguments are literally too stupid and he starts discrediting your character instead of your arguments. Or both if he knows how to do so. Seen it all..

You've made SEVERAL errors of information. You didn't KNOW what your own team's abilities do. It's not my fault you went down this path, SJ told you you were wrong. You still keep at it.

[PowersThatBe]

Even if he (banana) is subbed into this game for mr stole your girl. He shouldn't be posting until after host announcement.

[PowersThatBe]

=)

=)

[NoctiZ]

Ok but you still don't understand that SJ could still be Morgan. His immunity is tied to you and your ally, which is why you won't give up the ally. I'm not asking you to. You've also made several incorrect statements, even pertaining to your own team. Do you see how I can be frustrated? Town is at a make or break point right now. We could either get a good lynch today or ML. Your NK might be a miskill. Which doesn't hurt you. You can win without town. Town at this point is at the mercy of a scum faction.

So I'm frustrated because you have constantly gotten things wrong, even about your own team. You even quoted what Wido said, and instead of correcting me that she didn't take the item, you used it as evidence that she gave the item to goatsee which she didnt.

You said SJ said things he didn't say. I get your scum, and you don' have to read really or care, because hey if town purple and neutral kill each other, good for us (red team) right?

Now if you're not going to play the game as a town person (essentially you're an extension of the town right now) instead of a half paying attention scum, then just sit back, shut up, and let SJ's vote dictate your actions in the day time. Because right now, all you're doing is hurting the town by bringing you and I to a 1v1 tunnel which is pointless because for me it's 100% confirmed we're on the same side.

I'm not exploding at little things. I'm exploding at huge mistakes your making, that are creating false narratives, and that distract from the game.

Once again. Either play as town and do your research or get out of the way so the adults can solve the game.

Please read this in a very calm but direct tone.

Thank you.

If you want proof that I'm not only creating 1v1 narratives then look at my other posts where I listed people that make good lynches for today. You're exploding and not reading well yourself by thinking wido took something from Goatse. I didn't know that SJ went to probe you, I know what probing does. Now instead of exploding at my or anyone's mistakes (and even accusations!) while nice-talking your own mistakes you could acknowledge that this is a game with many posts and complicated mechanics and not everything everyone will say is going to be 100% correct.

I will do as you ask me to and only respond one thing to your posts from now on because that is seemingly all you're good for right now: You could still be Morgan. That is all.

[Forum Mafia GM]

BananaCucho is not a part of the game, he has been infracted for his actions.

[PowersThatBe]

I'm not Morgan. Morgan is not in the Red Scum Team.

Ok. I'll accept this. You've been consist since revealing.

Can you tell us what your abilities are? And any other abilities of your teammates

If you cant or dont want to I understand.

[Voss]

BananaCucho is not a part of the game, he has been infracted for his actions.

back to this guy.

-vote rachyl

[RLVG]

Soo... Can I ruin a little of the conversation?

Both me, King Arthur, and Morgan le Fay, got this thing.

During day, guess a number between 1 to 10000, the one closest to the random number will get to act the following night.

I didn't tell you guys, but at the start of this day, I was informed that this feature was removed and we can get to properly act whenever we want now.

[NoctiZ]

Soo... Can I ruin a little of the conversation?

Both me, King Arthur, and Morgan le Fay, got this thing.



I didn't tell you guys, but at the start of this day, I was informed that this feature was removed and we can get to properly act whenever we want now.

Oh yeah, I forgot about this. What I find weird: How was Merlin able to visit me N1 and there was still a fire NK N1 by Morgan?

[NoctiZ]

Oh yeah, I forgot about this. What I find weird: How was Merlin able to visit me N1 and there was still a fire NK N1 by Morgan?

Nevermind, this only applies to Morgan and you.

[PowersThatBe]

If you want proof that I'm not only creating 1v1 narratives then look at my other posts where I listed people that make good lynches for today. You're exploding and not reading well yourself by thinking wido took something from Goatse. I didn't know that SJ went to probe you, I know what probing does. Now instead of exploding at my or anyone's mistakes (and even accusations!) while nice-talking your own mistakes you could acknowledge that this is a game with many posts and complicated mechanics and not everything everyone will say is going to be 100% correct.

I will do as you ask me to and only respond one thing to your posts from now on because that is seemingly all you're good for right now: You could still be Morgan. That is all.

No the problem is you had these lynch targets and then swerved off them and put all of your focus on me because of my TPR power. However, you said you're not making a case, but you spent a majority of your time on me.

i explode when people say dumb stuff. You said a lot of dumb stuff. I can take a guess at what probe does, since it usually means to investigate.

The definition even says SJ did it to me himself. OYYYY daddy.

I admitted my mistakes. I didn't try to cover them up.

I said OPPS I thought she took the item from goatsee. In my defense he didnt even answer the question he just kept spamming he was RB'd and has drinks.

If he did deny it, I missed it. My bad.

You however, did not do this, you just continued thinking I'm stating false facts, when SJ confirmed my thinking was right. That I don't do night actions. Which I don't. I take no action. I have a passive ability.

I would like you to push other targets, but you have not. I've spent a considerable amount of time pushing multiple targets, I've tried to think of every possible scenario to solve the game.

I would like for us to work together.

Please acknowledge you are wrong. All you had to do was apologize for calling me a liar, unwarranted. But your ego and pride didn't allow you to.

[PowersThatBe]

Anyhow

Mr. steal ur girl hasn't claimed shit and isnt even apart of this game. Anyone wanna lynch them ? No? Okay.

Fight amongst yourselves. I need a break.

[PowersThatBe]

@widomakr do you know where you get the items from?

[NoctiZ]

No the problem is you had these lynch targets and then swerved off them and put all of your focus on me because of my TPR power. However, you said you're not making a case, but you spent a majority of your time on me.

i explode when people say dumb stuff. You said a lot of dumb stuff. I can take a guess at what probe does, since it usually means to investigate.

The definition even says SJ did it to me himself. OYYYY daddy.

I admitted my mistakes. I didn't try to cover them up.

I said OPPS I thought she took the item from goatsee. In my defense he didnt even answer the question he just kept spamming he was RB'd and has drinks.

If he did deny it, I missed it. My bad.

You however, did not do this, you just continued thinking I'm stating false facts, when SJ confirmed my thinking was right. That I don't do night actions. Which I don't. I take no action. I have a passive ability.

I would like you to push other targets, but you have not. I've spent a considerable amount of time pushing multiple targets, I've tried to think of every possible scenario to solve the game.

I would like for us to work together.

Please acknowledge you are wrong. All you had to do was apologize for calling me a liar, unwarranted. But your ego and pride didn't allow you to.

I would apologize to someone not who is not as toxic and petty as you. I have no problem to do so. But your behaviour is poisonous right now as evidenced by the host warning and you're calling people morons left and right who do not all deserve to be treated that way. I am annoyed at you as a person playing this game and you're pretending to take the high ground here after all the shit you said. Not cool. Just not fun to play with. I do hope you never sign up again for games in the future. Shouldn't be too hard as you've been inactive before that anyway or so you said. That as a side note. Anyway.


You are misrepresenting facts right now. If you remember back when I listed the possible targets you jumped on me when I said your claim cannot be proven in that role list of claims I made. This was referring to how you have no ability that gives others feedback list most of the abilites do. You reacted defensively and pointed out something SJ said that was NOT his investigative result claim to confirm how you could not be Morgan or Merlin and mentioned some other stuff. That is why we devolved into this. Don't talk like I ignored everyone else on my lynch target list in favor of tunnelling you specifically. I did not read up in the night chat that SJ probed you because I didn't know we could use items and night actions at the same time.

You reacted to me making this list defensively which is why we got into this drawn out discussion of you being not what you claim in the first place. And in the end it is still not possible to confirm if you are Morgan or not. I have accepted the fact that you cannot be Merlin but that you still can be Morgan. And if you can accept the fact that this notion will continue to exist because there is no way we can confirm this with the abilities we currently know of then we're done here. No discussion needed anymore. If you believe you are seen by everyone as the pro-town player you are then you should not have a reason to cry over this oh-so-unfounded possibility.

________

Did Rachyl actually claim her ability yet besides simply claiming TPR? I hate combing through player's posts using the forum function. It's so bad..

[Voss]

she said she's got a strange artifact, then claimed to think it was the grail. that's it.

[NoctiZ]

she said she's got a strange artifact, then claimed to think it was the grail. that's it.

Yeah so we're still missing an ability claim. She did claim TPR I believe but not what she did. That's awfully suspicious as we have no one who can confirm she even has an ability.

Worst case scenario is that everyone has an ability they can use to provide feedback though (except you-know-who) which is hard for us to comb through. Which means we go back to what I thought was a good idea: Everyone judges the currently claimed abilities by their likelihood to be part of Merlin's or Morgan's kit.

[NoctiZ]

Also Mr.Stole is missing the claim as PTB says but that guy hasn't shown up at all today I think? Atleast it seems like it. Would be great if he could show up at some point..

[PowersThatBe]

I would apologize to someone not who is not as toxic and petty as you. I have no problem to do so. But your behaviour is poisonous right now as evidenced by the host warning and you're calling people morons left and right who do not all deserve to be treated that way. I am annoyed at you as a person playing this game and you're pretending to take the high ground here after all the shit you said. Not cool. Just not fun to play with. I do hope you never sign up again for games in the future. Shouldn't be too hard as you've been inactive before that anyway or so you said. That as a side note. Anyway.

Stay wrong. I cannot help you. I got toxic with you specifically because you made a claim against me without reading your own factions night chat. As you have admitted. I became frustrated because you made me look foolish for stating that SJ stated I had not taken a night action. I never acted defensively at the possibility of me being merlin or morgan. Of course that is possible for everyone here remaining except pretty much RLVG. I still believe its possible Morgan could be on the red team and this whole things is a plot to smoke out merlin to help your win con. However, when I tell you, and SJ pretty much confirmed that I do not make night actions. And you respond with, "no SJ didn't say that. He misunderstood. He said he misunderstood." You didn't have it right, and you misrepresented everything. Whether intentional or not. Doesn't matter.

The point is: Logically, it would very unlikely to almost impossible for me to be either merlin or morgan because according to SJ i made no action. According to RLVG merlin visited someone. Solved that. Good. 2. Because Morgan is apparently a mirror image of Arthur, night immune, due to allies. Once again, I stated that I can be killed at night. Why would I tell people that? It pretty much invites you to kill me. I said the only way I survive Death is by side effects or direct results of weird mechanics. Your factional kill should do the trick. Again, even after SJ clarified you some how assumed I could be morgan based on the idea that my TPR power is somehow similar to a power RLVG has not said he has.

@rlvg are you immune to weird mechanics/strange abilities. What are your thoughts on my game play?

@noctiz You also said I attacked low hanging fruit. I asked you to prove this, you didn't, you instead launched into other BS. I became FRUSTRATED because you are ignoring LOGIC to assign improbable roles to me. I am not overly defensive about the accusations, but rather, your inability to grasp that improbability of your line of thinking. I apologize for being so rude. It's very clear you are not capable of rational thought. I expect you to go against your win con and NK me tonight.

And rachyl I was super toxic to because she openly admitted to not playing or caring about the game.

Trust me, I only joined because asked. I wont be back :P

You are misrepresenting facts right now. If you remember back when I listed the possible targets you jumped on me when I said your claim cannot be proven in that role list of claims I made. This was referring to how you have no ability that gives others feedback list most of the abilites do. You reacted defensively and pointed out something SJ said that was NOT his investigative result claim to confirm how you could not be Morgan or Merlin and mentioned some other stuff. That is why we devolved into this. Don't talk like I ignored everyone else on my lynch target list in favor of tunnelling you specifically. I did not read up in the night chat that SJ probed you because I didn't know we could use items and night actions at the same time.

I did not jump. I said if someone uses an ability on me they will or should get feed back that it failed, if it's not a standard ability specific to fm/mod. I assume probe is a form of an agent or detective ability. Thus it should have given reliable results. I got mad because you said no one on your team had an ability to investigate me. SJ corrected you. Again, not the claim or the assumption, but rather your faulty logic and dog with a bone mentality. Who have you focused on in the last few hours? No one but me. Right.


Who do you think is more scummy than me?

You reacted to me making this list defensively which is why we got into this drawn out discussion of you being not what you claim in the first place. And in the end it is still not possible to confirm if you are Morgan or not. I have accepted the fact that you cannot be Merlin but that you still can be Morgan. And if you can accept the fact that this notion will continue to exist because there is no way we can confirm this with the abilities we currently know of then we're done here. No discussion needed anymore. If you believe you are seen by everyone as the pro-town player you are then you should not have a reason to cry over this oh-so-unfounded possibility.

I did not react defensively to your list. Again, it was to your logic that you used to defend my position on your list. Your line of thinking that put me on there. You did so because you thought I was misrepping SJ, when I wasn't. Your logical basically states that your probe ability cant confirm ANYONE but your own team isnt Morgan because apparently you think Morgan has my ability. Once again, I don't care if you see me as town or not, but I'm not going to get mislynched because you didn't take the time to find out what your team can and cannot do, and if you cant be bothered to read your own night chat.

I feel we have a grave misunderstanding of my frustrations. They are not over the fact that I am being accused of being Merlin or Morgan, it's the fact that you continue to push this notion that your investigative ability doesnt work on me because of the ability that you have to AGREE I have in the first place. If I was morgan, why wouldnt I just LIE about some other ability? Make something up? Why would I tell you that special mechanics or abilities have no effect on me? Where is the motivation from Morgan?

Back it up with logic, and I'll accept your perspective all day long. You have yet to use sound logic.
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Did Rachyl actually claim her ability yet besides simply claiming TPR? I hate combing through player's posts using the forum function. It's so bad..
No she said HOW I USE GRAIL!? I HAVE GRAIL?! HOW I GIVE AWAY?!

TLR: I never reacted negatively to your opinion that I'm morgan or merlin, I reacted poorly to the fact that you used incorrect information and assumptions to hammer home points that aren't logically supported. Even after your teammate corrected you. I don't care if you lynch me or kill me at night. It only hurts the town in the end. I would like to apologize for getting so frustrated, but please, put yourself in my shoes. Everything you came at me with came from a place where you (noctiz) failed to read your night chat / what your teammate was actually saying.

[Voss]

*sigh*