S-FM President

[John Kennedy]

Also Clinton DO NOTlisten to confirmed scum, he will mix the truth with lies to confuse us

I'm starting to believe that worked lol

[John Kennedy]

Reagan. Voted me up I N S T A N T L Y. Clearly he was trying to pocket me.

W H O D I D T H A T

You meant to quote that?

[Abraham Lincoln]

You meant to quote that?

Lol yes

[John Kennedy]

yellow

@Richard Nixon Do you still scumread Lincoln?

[Abraham Lincoln]

Also, I am going to repeat this. DO NOT REPLY OR QUOTE THE NEUTRAL OR ANYONE ELSE THAT I HAVEN'T QUOTED YET

DOING THIS IS GROUNDS FOR INSTANT LYNCH, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. DON'T GAMETHROW.

@John Kennedy , reminding you of the no-ping rule. Do not ping anyone other than myself, Bush, Clinton, (Jefferson).

[Thomas Jefferson]

@John Kennedy , reminding you of the no-ping rule. Do not ping anyone other than myself, Bush, Clinton, (Jefferson).

Why you got me in parenthesis lol

[Bill Clinton]

L O L

Nice movie though :P

-vote Ronald Reagan

Sorry, I'm quite busy irl today. But uhm, Reagan is confirmed scum if I believe Lincoln is town. Sorry for the scatterbrain and low activity

God bless

-vote ronald reagan

[Abraham Lincoln]

Why you got me in parenthesis lol

Reflex, sorry. You shouldn't be in parentheses.

[Abraham Lincoln]

@Thomas Jefferson , please vote up Ronald Reagan.

[John Kennedy]

@John Kennedy , reminding you of the no-ping rule. Do not ping anyone other than myself, Bush, Clinton, (Jefferson).

NYET. I see your argument with Nixon as TvT tbh.

[Abraham Lincoln]

@George Bush get ready to hammer.

[Abraham Lincoln]

NYET. I see your argument with Nixon as TvT tbh.

!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Don't explain it to me, because I won't understand

[John Kennedy]

Reflex, sorry. You shouldn't be in parentheses.

Ikr, when I type Jefferson I always want to put it in parenthesis, it's so fun to do.... /s

[Abraham Lincoln]

@Richard Nixon , if you are actually town, you should agree with me when I say that Reagan has been acting scummy AF.

[John Kennedy]

!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Don't explain it to me, because I won't understand

The hostility and the anger seemed quite real from a townie. But I wouldn't run in a fire over this :P

[Abraham Lincoln]

The hostility and the anger seemed quite real from a townie. But I wouldn't run in a fire over this :P

I didn't see any anger on their part

[John Kennedy]

@Richard Nixon , if you are actually town, you should agree with me when I say that Reagan has been acting scummy AF.

That is a 100%. Nixon, if you want to live another day, get Reagan.

[Abraham Lincoln]

I didn't see any anger on their part

Fact of the matter is that Nixon is scummy af by a lot of stuff. 'Town Anger' is not an argument I am willing to accept unless you can find ACTUAL reasons as to why he isn't scum.

[John Kennedy]

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Oh yeah... What happened N2 with interview?

[John Kennedy]

Wait after a reread he SAID he WAS angry lol. BS

[John Kennedy]

Lincoln can you respond to the following things that actually pertain to the game:

1) If I am scum, why did I say you were consort and end the tunnel that was on Clinton V Reagan? As I have pointed out:
a) If scum get 1 mislynch today they win, so I don't need to earn the town points.
b) Scum need 1 mislynch today to win, so I don't need to specifically lynch a powerful escort versus a less useful town role
c) if Reagan and Clinton are both town scum would happily sit back and watch a mislynch occur.
d) if 1 of them is scum, I (along with my 2 teammates) can push the lynch onto the other 1 - we would only need 2 town to vote before we could hammer. Even if we come off as confirmed scum afterwards it doesn't matter because we have already won with the mislynch completed
e) If they are both scum it makes sense for me to save them, but nobody seems to think they are both scum with me. If you want to push that narrative it's the only one that would make sense


2) As Escort who roleblocked Reagan, why didn't you push Reagan and Clinton to see who their teammates were and to see if they slipped up BEFORE revealing that you blocked Reagan? The information you had if you are town would be the most useful information anybody has had all game and yet you just wasted it and locked us into another 1 V 1 as soon as D3 started.

3) While repeatedly saying all game not to turbolynch people or to lynch people before EOD, even going so far as to fake claim town assassin to stop people from voting trump, and as somebody who thought Washington was a townie, why did you join the lynch on Washington long before EOD2?

4) Why did you say "EVERYONE VOTE NIXON AS SOON AS YOU COME ONLINE"? Where is the town motivation in trying to push a lynch before anybody can defend themselves? You have flip-flopped all game but suddenly, and conveniently while most people are asleep, you have a 100% sure scumread on me and are not even slightly afraid of mislynching?

1) True and convincing.
2) Didn't he DO that? Out of the slip part?
3) I did too, EVERYONE did. No turbolynch was occuring, because we had trouble getting votes to move.
4) That feels like a town focus to me. Just maybe... badly worded.

[John Kennedy]

this right here is what is convincing me to park my vote here

-vote George Bush

But Reagan IS NOT town... If he is town, then FUCK we lost, but it means that it's Bush Jefferson and Trump. I have big doubts on that theory.

[Abraham Lincoln]

But Reagan IS NOT town... If he is town, then FUCK we lost, but it means that it's Bush Jefferson and Trump. I have big doubts on that theory.

If Bush is scum, I will renounce my citizenship

[Richard Nixon]

@Richard Nixon Do you still scumread Lincoln?

Did you read anything beyond the post you quoted here?
Of course I still scumread him, he repeatedly ignored my GOOD arguments and didn't respond to those posts and instead just focused on whether or not I comhunted and whether or not I am a bully. I left him with 4 great questions:

Lincoln can you respond to the following things that actually pertain to the game:

1) If I am scum, why did I say you were consort and end the tunnel that was on Clinton V Reagan? As I have pointed out:
a) If scum get 1 mislynch today they win, so I don't need to earn the town points.
b) Scum need 1 mislynch today to win, so I don't need to specifically lynch a powerful escort versus a less useful town role
c) if Reagan and Clinton are both town scum would happily sit back and watch a mislynch occur.
d) if 1 of them is scum, I (along with my 2 teammates) can push the lynch onto the other 1 - we would only need 2 town to vote before we could hammer. Even if we come off as confirmed scum afterwards it doesn't matter because we have already won with the mislynch completed
e) If they are both scum it makes sense for me to save them, but nobody seems to think they are both scum with me. If you want to push that narrative it's the only one that would make sense


2) As Escort who roleblocked Reagan, why didn't you push Reagan and Clinton to see who their teammates were and to see if they slipped up BEFORE revealing that you blocked Reagan? The information you had if you are town would be the most useful information anybody has had all game and yet you just wasted it and locked us into another 1 V 1 as soon as D3 started.

3) While repeatedly saying all game not to turbolynch people or to lynch people before EOD, even going so far as to fake claim town assassin to stop people from voting trump, and as somebody who thought Washington was a townie, why did you join the lynch on Washington long before EOD2?

4) Why did you say "EVERYONE VOTE NIXON AS SOON AS YOU COME ONLINE"? Where is the town motivation in trying to push a lynch before anybody can defend themselves? You have flip-flopped all game but suddenly, and conveniently while most people are asleep, you have a 100% sure scumread on me and are not even slightly afraid of mislynching?

His response, which ignores 3 of them and gives a terrible reply to the first one:

1)Because you were trying to get an easy misiynch on me and and/or pocketing me
b) Not true.
c) Happily sitting back is something only one person in this game would not be lynched for.
d) Yep but you'd have to explain why one of the other is town while the other one is not. I admit this CAN have a towny motivation and for this reason I'll be giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I don't trust you.

Then he said:

Going out for a couple of hours
@Richard Nixon like I said I'll be giving you the benefit of the doubt, but DO NOT ping ANYONE, not even the people I mentioned, except for JFK and Bush.

He literally just quit at that point instead of answering the questions and came back later after the dust had settled and he was no longer the focus.


Eventually, Clinton called him out for running away from those questions:

@Abraham Lincoln why haven't you answered 2-4?

Lincoln finally responds with this:

2) I have no defense in this regard because this is just fucking stupid and I agree. This is a CORRECT reason to be scumreading me but that's not what happened.
3)I joined the Lynch on Washington because Roosevelt here is a master manipulator and a scumbag and convinced me to vote for Washington even though I didn't want to do so.
4)I was overheated and overjoyed at the possibility of having figured you out as scum (honestly, I still am). No I wasn't afraid of mislynching, I am SOMEWHAT afraid of mislynching but at this point, the only two things that can happen is we lose the game or we keep it going for two more days where we have to ACCURATELY Lynch twice in a row, which is... FUCKING gay, if you ask me. Also I RETRACTED that statement almost immediately when I realized Roosevelt voted you, because I realized scum don't have to really Lynch one of us, they just have to prevent us from getting a President elected. That's really what this setup is about.

I respond with this:

2) What did happen then?

3) You need to give us something more than "even though I didn't want to do so". You submitted the vote. That tells us you wanted to do so. Otherwise - you can just simply not vote Washington.

4) You have been saying all game that you found so and so as scum confirmed, flip flopping back and forth. Just a few posts before your first one that said I was scum you said I was town. What made you so sure that you had no fear of mislynching me, to the point that you were pinging the whole game to lynch me?
Your point about the presidential election is a good one, but then we should be lynching Roosevelt to stop him from being president.
IMO, though, you unvoted because I was at L-1 and it would be unlikely for someone to just come in and hammer before I could respond. However, if I am at L-2 they can vote me with less guilt and then you can hammer and win the game.

and Lincoln responds with this, again ignoring 3 and 4

2)What happened was I was waiting the whole previous day to piss off Roosevelt being genuinely convinced that Reagan was scum. I posted that so I could get Reagan lynched, thinking that mafia had not killed anyone - at the start I posted that thing about who killed Obama, and I hadn't yet had time to process the information of what exactly Obama's death meant, I acted on impulse and I agree I fucked it up. But put it this way - if I hadn't claimed that I had blocked Reagan, the Lynch would be between me and Reagan and if he was scum he would've NOT said that I had roleblocked him. Besides I was the only claim in the game so it would've been obvious I blocked him.

For me Lincoln is 99% scum, he tried to push a turbo lynch on me without letting me defend myself and then he failed miserably in giving good reasons for his actions when I actually did defend myself.

[John Kennedy]

JFK and I won't be around for EoD, so using the full amount of the next 8 hours is probably not a great idea.

....what the hell is that post? 1: That's a lie, I'm here LMAO and 2: you're asking for a fucking turbo?!

[John Kennedy]

If Bush is scum, I will renounce my citizenship

Idem if YOU are scum lol.

[Abraham Lincoln]

....what the hell is that post? 1: That's a lie, I'm here LMAO and 2: you're asking for a fucking turbo?!

Bush could've hammered me, yet he didn't. If he is scum he is against the idea of turbolynching... which clearly not the case here.

[Richard Nixon]

@Richard Nixon , if you are actually town, you should agree with me when I say that Reagan has been acting scummy AF.

Reagan cannot be scum if you are also scum, and you are scum, so I do not agree with a Reagan lynch.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Reagan cannot be scum if you are also scum, and you are scum, so I do not agree with a Reagan lynch.

Lmao. Nice one. Care to explain why he tried to hammer?

[Abraham Lincoln]

OMG BUSH CAME ONLINE!!!!!! REJOICE

[John Kennedy]

well the ones that post 100x a day ARE chiming in random bs. not all your thoughts need to be out there. not every post needs a reply. thats part of the reason why i hammered yesterday, was because jfk fucking goes back and replies to EVERY LITTLE POST, and i was like 'not today satan' close this thread
look at the old fm games they were never more than 20 pages (20 posts per page or whatever)
i would love to play a game like that

I do not reply to every little post. I skip most of them and tbh my play style is moving to that. So you'll be happy ^^ but there are A LOT of things to discuss, and Lincoln brought a shit ton of stuff to talk about through the game.

[Abraham Lincoln]

....what the hell is that post? 1: That's a lie, I'm here LMAO and 2: you're asking for a fucking turbo?!

I did the same thing when I said I wouldn't be online today =) I don't want us to break stride.

[Richard Nixon]

Oh yeah... What happened N2 with interview?

I didn't interview anybody because I was already confirmed journalist so what's the point...…………..

Actually I just realized that if I was scum I would have interviewed Roosevelt N2 and told him who all of the scum were, so maybe that should give me some town cred.

[Abraham Lincoln]

I didn't interview anybody because I was already confirmed journalist so what's the point...…………..

Actually I just realized that if I was scum I would have interviewed Roosevelt N2 and told him who all of the scum were, so maybe that should give me some town cred.

Honestly the fact that you didn't do that is so minor in comparison to all of the other scummy stuff you did that it doesn't ever fucking mean anything.

[John Kennedy]

Reagan cannot be scum if you are also scum, and you are scum, so I do not agree with a Reagan lynch.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA........


VOTE REAGAN UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO DOWN INSTEAD OF HIM, AND VOTE BUSH FOR PRESIDENT.

[John Kennedy]

I didn't interview anybody because I was already confirmed journalist so what's the point...…………..

Actually I just realized that if I was scum I would have interviewed Roosevelt N2 and told him who all of the scum were, so maybe that should give me some town cred.

Oh ^^ okay. Richard Nixon is town. Why? Because if he was corrupted journalist, he would've been sent to kill... ^^

[Abraham Lincoln]

I didn't interview anybody because I was already confirmed journalist so what's the point...…………..

Actually I just realized that if I was scum I would have interviewed Roosevelt N2 and told him who all of the scum were, so maybe that should give me some town cred.

Besides nobody could've claimed that interview for themselves, except for your scum team. Which would've been fucking weird.

[Richard Nixon]

1) True and convincing.
2) Didn't he DO that? Out of the slip part?
3) I did too, EVERYONE did. No turbolynch was occuring, because we had trouble getting votes to move.
4) That feels like a town focus to me. Just maybe... badly worded.

2) No... he immediately revealed that he roleblocked Reagan the second the day started.

3) There are specific points here that are directed at Lincoln specifically. The first is that he was the most vocal person all game before that to not lynch people before EOD, and the second is that he repeatedly claimed to think Washington was town.

4) He literally said AS SOON AS YOU COME ONLINE, I do not see how you could consider that to be badly worded or town-aligned.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Oh ^^ okay. Richard Nixon is town. Why? Because if he was corrupted journalist, he would've been sent to kill... ^^

I completely disagree. Nixon was one of my scum reads d2, he wouldn't have been sent in for the kill as Corrupted Journalist.

[Richard Nixon]

Idem if YOU are scum lol.

WHY are you so sure Lincoln is town? Can you please give a reason besides "he acts confused and flip-flops"? How is that sufficient to strongly town-read him and not believe any scenario where he could be scum?

[John Kennedy]

Yes everyone is town except me, good way to get them to vote with you

Hmmm.... Who's teamed with Nixon in your mind lincoln?

[Richard Nixon]

Bush could've hammered me, yet he didn't. If he is scum he is against the idea of turbolynching... which clearly not the case here.

He wanted to make sure the presidential votes were all cast (necessary for town to survive tomorrow even if we correctly lynch today) and he could easily be your teammate.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Hmmm.... Who's teamed with Nixon in your mind lincoln?

Reagan 100%, and perhaps Trump, or Jefferson (HIGHLY unlikely)
At the time that I was typing that post, I guess Clinton/Trump

[John Kennedy]

WHY are you so sure Lincoln is town? Can you please give a reason besides "he acts confused and flip-flops"? How is that sufficient to strongly town-read him and not believe any scenario where he could be scum?

He tries extremely hard to help town. Tbh I don't believe a scum would be here 6 hours non-stop faking scumhunting.

[Richard Nixon]

Lmao. Nice one. Care to explain why he tried to hammer?

He put you on L-1, he didn't hammer you

[John Kennedy]

Reagan 100%, and perhaps Trump, or Jefferson (HIGHLY unlikely)
At the time that I was typing that post, I guess Clinton/Trump

Okay, that makes sense.

[Abraham Lincoln]

He put you on L-1, he didn't hammer you

If he is town he would have to be extremely confident that I am scum to hammer. His only reason to (try to) hammer was because I pushed extremely hard against you, and ironically you were one of his scum reads and I was his top town read

[John Kennedy]

nuts!!!!!!!!!!!

[Abraham Lincoln]

Did Jefferson just fucking leave?

[Abraham Lincoln]

YOU FUCKING IDIOT, DO NOT RESPOND TO OR PING THE NEUTRAL