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  1. ISO #751

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by ika View Post
    i think what your misunderstanding about what im saying is that us lynching him would be a waste b/c the neutral wants pleb leader dead first. if we leave him with the wifom hes emp/pleb leader hes basicly the surefire shot.

    unless you are saying what i jsut said and witch case nvm
    Neut wants both of them dead. He's not going to give a shit which one dies first since either one of them dying means he's fulfilled 50% of his win-con.

    Having the Emperor lynched means that he knows one of his targets AND still has a full player-list so he has more time to find the Pleb Leader or try and find the Guard first so that he's safe or some shit like that.

    So I don't get you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

  2. ISO #752

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    Neut wants both of them dead. He's not going to give a shit which one dies first since either one of them dying means he's fulfilled 50% of his win-con.

    Having the Emperor lynched means that he knows one of his targets AND still has a full player-list so he has more time to find the Pleb Leader or try and find the Guard first so that he's safe or some shit like that.

    So I don't get you.
    heres the thing:

    if emperor is dead town has no incentive to keep the neutral around due to the fact that lookout/detective can now track the nk. the same applies for sucms. scums want to keep it around if they can fly above the radar and not give themselfs away becasue the neutral cant be detected

    also add in empress is night immune so theres also that

    basicly what im saying here is that the neutral can leave the emperor alive as a bargining chip b/c as long as empress is alive and if the guard kills the assains the emp can act out the nk all day long and make the lookout/det moot point.

    so in summary:
    if emp is dead, town will want neutral dead for lookout/det, scum would want it alive for myslynch possiblity
    if emp is alive, town will want neutral alive for NK purpous, scums would want it dead to have emp kill

    do i amke sense now?

  3. ISO #753

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by ika View Post
    heres the thing:

    if emperor is dead town has no incentive to keep the neutral around due to the fact that lookout/detective can now track the nk. the same applies for sucms. scums want to keep it around if they can fly above the radar and not give themselfs away becasue the neutral cant be detected

    also add in empress is night immune so theres also that

    basicly what im saying here is that the neutral can leave the emperor alive as a bargining chip b/c as long as empress is alive and if the guard kills the assains the emp can act out the nk all day long and make the lookout/det moot point.

    so in summary:
    if emp is dead, town will want neutral dead for lookout/det, scum would want it alive for myslynch possiblity
    if emp is alive, town will want neutral alive for NK purpous, scums would want it dead to have emp kill

    do i amke sense now?
    Lol, back at setup spec

    Don't you think scum would want the neutral dead either way ? It's their best interest to control the NK as soon as possible.
    [23:19:33] DarknessB: Sino is Mass Murderer -- I don't care if there isn't one in the setup!
    [23:19:39] DarknessB:
    -vote Sino

  4. ISO #754

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by ika View Post
    heres the thing:

    if emperor is dead town has no incentive to keep the neutral around due to the fact that lookout/detective can now track the nk. the same applies for sucms. scums want to keep it around if they can fly above the radar and not give themselfs away becasue the neutral cant be detected

    also add in empress is night immune so theres also that

    basicly what im saying here is that the neutral can leave the emperor alive as a bargining chip b/c as long as empress is alive and if the guard kills the assains the emp can act out the nk all day long and make the lookout/det moot point.

    so in summary:
    if emp is dead, town will want neutral dead for lookout/det, scum would want it alive for myslynch possiblity
    if emp is alive, town will want neutral alive for NK purpous, scums would want it dead to have emp kill

    do i amke sense now?
    I can see where you're coming from although it requires the town to be a bunch of dickheads to the Neutral...

    ...which I can totally see happening given the average intelligence of town these days

    Neutral tends to town-side anyway since town is easier to win with than scum.

    But I'm not too bothered. Scum is scum. I'm not going to worry much about what role my scum-reads might have but I can see where you're coming from so sure.
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

  5. ISO #755

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    Detailing how they progressed would require a wall post. I can sum up what changed though.

    deathworlds scum!!! -> scum.
    Unknown1234 scum!!! -> town!
    Calix scum! -> scum?
    ika ??? -> ??????
    Sino town!!! -> town!
    RLVG town!! -> town.
    yzb null. -> scum?
    Mesk scum. -> scum?
    if you're implying deathworlds and i are scum together, there's something seriously wrong with your thought process
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    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  6. ISO #756

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    if you're implying deathworlds and i are scum together, there's something seriously wrong with your thought process
    I like how IKA went from 3 question marks to 6.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  7. ISO #757

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Sino View Post
    Lol, back at setup spec

    Don't you think scum would want the neutral dead either way ? It's their best interest to control the NK as soon as possible.
    the onyl reason they would want it IMO is becasue emp is outed. otherwise if they are town enough to not be lynched i would argue to let the neutral do the bidding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    I can see where you're coming from although it requires the town to be a bunch of dickheads to the Neutral...

    ...which I can totally see happening given the average intelligence of town these days

    Neutral tends to town-side anyway since town is easier to win with than scum.

    But I'm not too bothered. Scum is scum. I'm not going to worry much about what role my scum-reads might have but I can see where you're coming from so sure.
    site meta basicly says "FUCK YOU NEUTRAL DIE IN FIRE" so when it comes to what would happen i feel liek if emp is dead they are going to go "FUCK YOU NEUTRAL"

  8. ISO #758

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by ika View Post
    the onyl reason they would want it IMO is becasue emp is outed. otherwise if they are town enough to not be lynched i would argue to let the neutral do the bidding.
    Indeed, but he still might kill 2 out of 3 of them.
    [23:19:33] DarknessB: Sino is Mass Murderer -- I don't care if there isn't one in the setup!
    [23:19:39] DarknessB:
    -vote Sino

  9. ISO #759

  10. ISO #760

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    This thread became really trolly/ non-serious all of a sudden.

    However I don't really know what else to say.

    My reads are probably not going to change much until EOD given the thread progression.
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

  11. ISO #761

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    I'm a cat and you're an obese mouse with nine tails.
    Oh, i forgot to pick up on that.

    I understand why they call you Catlix now

    Just don't forget cats play with their mice before eating them !
    [23:19:33] DarknessB: Sino is Mass Murderer -- I don't care if there isn't one in the setup!
    [23:19:39] DarknessB:
    -vote Sino

  12. ISO #762

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Sino View Post
    Indeed, but he still might kill 2 out of 3 of them.
    again thats under the premisise that they are actinng like the emp or pleb leader. if they are not and are appreaing town they would have nothign to worry about

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf View Post
    LOL, OMG hilarious
    i was laughing too. but now i have to question if unknwon is scum cus he did the rock comment as scum

  13. ISO #763

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    This thread became really trolly/ non-serious all of a sudden.

    However I don't really know what else to say.

    My reads are probably not going to change much until EOD given the thread progression.
    i feel liek after being serious for so long there needs to be a relaife time and this is it.

    have some fun and troll a bit. you never know you might like it

    or i could post dog pics in here and derail the enitre thread :P

  14. ISO #764

  15. ISO #765

  16. ISO #766

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by ika View Post
    i feel liek after being serious for so long there needs to be a relaife time and this is it.

    have some fun and troll a bit. you never know you might like it

    or i could post dog pics in here and derail the enitre thread :P
    Meh.

    But sure, we did end up with one of the scummers literally admitting that he's scum for everyone to see.

    That's pretty good for Day 1.

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    Lol. He doesn't have a lot of posts.
    I looked him over. He did some setup spec in the beginning. Had some emoticon posts
    And proceeded to vote Mesk and say players should be given some slack.
    I'm surprised that he's not a town-read for you given that you could really do with the last part
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

  17. ISO #767

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    I can get behind punctuation reads.

    But how the fuck are you town-reading RLVG?

    Pretty weird that most of your reads have become weaker though.
    It's probably because I reread the game and I give people too many chances. Which means... that I'm looking too hard into people?

    I'm still town reading RLVG since I read him as town before (mostly emotion based due to his low post count) and just hasn't come back yet.

    pedit: Yeah I didn't notice (what he said was a contradiction). o.o" he is now a null read.

  18. ISO #768

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    Lol. He doesn't have a lot of posts.
    I looked him over. He did some setup spec in the beginning. Had some emoticon posts
    And proceeded to vote Mesk and say players should be given some slack.
    *facepalm*

    I know sp. I wanted ika to read him, he's got a history of reading RLVG correctly and it helps me read ika. Sheesh.

  19. ISO #769

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    Meh.

    But sure, we did end up with one of the scummers literally admitting that he's scum for everyone to see.

    That's pretty good for Day 1.

    Honestly, just stop with this, you're willingly missrepping me to attempt to paint me as a confirmed scum here.
    [23:19:33] DarknessB: Sino is Mass Murderer -- I don't care if there isn't one in the setup!
    [23:19:39] DarknessB:
    -vote Sino

  20. ISO #770

  21. ISO #771

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    He's starting to grasp the basics of How To Scum and is voting for someone who he's actually stated a scum-read on this time.

    It's not even OMGUS!

    Too bad it's because his scum buddy DW is on the line with him, rofl.
    I can confirm that I am neither scum, or buddies with sino. K thnks
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face View Post
    Deathworlds is simply better than us at this game. Don't kill them for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

  22. ISO #772

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Sino View Post
    Honestly, just stop with this, you're willingly missrepping me to attempt to paint me as a confirmed scum here.
    You do a good enough job at painting your own portrait, my dear Mafioso.

    This thread is disappointingly slow after yesterday. I'll be taking my leave until the lurkers do something interesting/ yzb-tier.
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

  23. ISO #773

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    You do a good enough job at painting your own portrait, my dear Mafioso.

    This thread is disappointingly slow after yesterday. I'll be taking my leave until the lurkers do something interesting/ yzb-tier.
    This is the Calix i prefer.

    You're right, it's a good time to leave, i'll have less time to play tomorrow as i'll be going out, however i expect to be back around one hour before EoD, maybe sooner.
    [23:19:33] DarknessB: Sino is Mass Murderer -- I don't care if there isn't one in the setup!
    [23:19:39] DarknessB:
    -vote Sino

  24. ISO #774

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    I may not have time to check in before EOD tomorrow, but some plans have been canceled, so maybe?
    @RLVG Oh Adventure Quest God, lend me your power and smite APPA. We common folk have toiled in the shadow of this perverse mechanoid for too long.
    Have mercy on the weak! Do not forget the how long we have held hope in you!

  25. ISO #775

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    I feel a bit meh about the game at the moment.

    Yes I was frustrated when you voted Sino. Because I felt like I was playing with an absolute imbecile, no reason for anyone to be voted up to L-2 (with no other train to make it worse) less than 2 hours [into] the day. Plus the train was already building alarmingly fast, it felt like a very opportunistic or uninformed vote, considering you just said that you were "catching up to page 3" then said "oh look a train, better stick my fucking vote here".
    But you seemed to be scum reading Sino before I had voted. Surely this was something you had wanted?
    Let's clarify— did you scum read Sino? Do you now scum read him?

  26. ISO #776

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    I may not have time to check in before EOD tomorrow, but some plans have been canceled, so maybe?
    @RLVG Oh Adventure Quest God, lend me your power and smite APPA. We common folk have toiled in the shadow of this perverse mechanoid for too long.
    Have mercy on the weak! Do not forget the how long we have held hope in you!
    Teehee, this is hilarious.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face View Post
    Deathworlds is simply better than us at this game. Don't kill them for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

  27. ISO #777

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    But you seemed to be scum reading Sino before I had voted. Surely this was something you had wanted?
    Let's clarify— did you scum read Sino? Do you now scum read him?
    At that time I did not scum read Sino. Now? I think I do, but MattZed and Mesk are greater scum reads.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face View Post
    Deathworlds is simply better than us at this game. Don't kill them for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

  28. ISO #778

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    You cannot be serious about your Mesk read.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  29. ISO #779

  30. ISO #780

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    I can't see how you can either.
    Are you countering my read? Or agreeing? -confused-
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  31. ISO #781

  32. ISO #782

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    I don't see remotely how the way she has handled this situation is a scum reaction.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  33. ISO #783

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    I agree with Calix as well with how some of my stronger scum-reads all decided to build a train on her for some of the weakest reasons.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  34. ISO #784

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Lol so secondpassing said I'm scum with DW who I said I was scum reading
    DW says I'm scum with MattZed who I also claimed to have a scum suspicion on.

    WHERE'S THE LOGIC
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  35. ISO #785

  36. ISO #786

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    I believe that is called a "pre-flip" association.
    YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  37. ISO #787

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    watch as i attack someones play for once:

    SECONDPASSING YOUR READS ARE UTTERLY RIDICULOUS AND MORONIC!

    to everyone scum reading me:

    YOURE LITERALLY LOOKING FOR TITS ON AN ANT
    THERES NOTHING THERE
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  38. ISO #788

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  39. ISO #789

  40. ISO #790

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    I return!

    Unless there are important things I need to respond to atm, going to ISO Sino to see if I want to help drive this train or put on the brakes.
    While you're at it do a DW one as he is a train in the making
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  41. ISO #791

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Wow... what a lovely iso written by mattzed! 10/10
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  42. ISO #792

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    WAY TO MOVE THE GAME ALONG MATTZED
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  43. ISO #793

  44. ISO #794

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    I return!

    Unless there are important things I need to respond to atm, going to ISO Sino to see if I want to help drive this train or put on the brakes.
    This has got to be one of the most hilarious posts in the game.

    Holy shit, lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

  45. ISO #795

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    This has got to be one of the most hilarious posts in the game.

    Holy shit, lol.
    I KNOW RIGHT
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  46. ISO #796

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    A List Of Call-Outs For People Who Need To Do Shit
    @SuperJack I'd like a response to these questions:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    I really hate it when everyone is drunk and they start screaming randomly for no reason at all.

    I see that you're going out so I can wait for you to return before responding to the following:

    Which reasons about Sino do you agree with?

    Can you expand a bit on the Unknown read?

    Can you give an actual read on Mesk and I? If it's null then I'd like it explicitly stated.
    @MattZed needs to play the game. He's made two promises ("I'll be back in five hours. I'll ISO Sino now guise") and he hasn't claimed RL so I'm starting to think he's full of it...even more than he usually is
    @ika needs to grow a spine and stop asking other people what they want him to do and just do what he wants, lol. It makes it harder to read him when he does things that other people tell him to. Perhaps this is intentional since he launches straight back into Neut spec in a low-key defense of Sino. I doubt it but I'm keeping it in mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by ika View Post
    k got tamper and iso on it. who should i iso first?
    Quote Originally Posted by ika View Post
    ok ill do it in the hr or so.

    also otto is right next to me cus now i have pretzels :P
    @deathworlds needs to DO something. Here are the overwhelming majority of posts by him that I found overnight:

    Spoiler : LOOK AT ALL OF THIS VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION. GEE GOLLY I'M SURE NOT GOING TO LYNCH HIM NOW :
    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    I can confirm that I am neither scum, or buddies with sino. K thnks
    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Teehee, this is hilarious.
    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    At that time I did not scum read Sino. Now? I think I do, but MattZed and Mesk are greater scum reads.


    In the spoiler, you'll see his biggest contribution.

    Spoiler : POST WHICH NOBODY WILL READ :
    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Couple of post I picked out while I was catching up, I have a few thoughts about em.




    This entire post is pretty incriminating in my opinion.

    First, we start off with a classic discredit, while reinforcing previous claim. Mesk should realize that if she makes the "I am Citizen" claim every game, then it is truly irrelevant. She also completely disregards every scum read on her, without actually interacting with the players that make these scum reads on her. At best, it's lazy anti-town play; at worse, it's an attempt to draw attention away from herself, and on the people who scum read her.

    She uses the phrase "Point is" yet hasn't said anything relating to her voting, and as basically a side-note she adds "btw its fine if you think I'm scumbuddys with unknown". Strange, wanted to point it out.

    Another discredit on Sino, in a very informal fashion. Not sure how I feel about this.

    Basically blackmailing the town into not lynching her, it's probably the most anti-town part of this post. Promises to act worse if she's lynched, discourages votes upon her from others, but without actually providing reasoning why those votes would be invalid.



    not sure how to feel about this post, but I thought I should bring it up again.


    What pings me here is the hedging language used. The post is "pretty" incriminating; he finds it "strange" that Mesk used the phrase "point is" but doesn't explain the scum motivation for using that term; he "isn't sure" how to feel about Mesk insulting Sino; Mesk "blackmailing the town" is "the most anti-town part" of the post.

    None of those points are scum-indicative.

    I'd like to argue that DWs KNOWS that his points against Mesk suck and that he's suffering from a moderate case of scum guilt
    .

    He knows that Mesk isn't on his team so he feels compelled to justify every scum-read he makes with these qualifiers in order to reduce its impact.
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

  47. ISO #797

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    I hate that the mentions feature makes the post formatting all wonky. No idea why it does that with me
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

  48. ISO #798

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    lol fell asleep.

    From my partial ISO through post 200, SINO IS TOWNY AS SHIT. While he disagreed with the plan regarding the Assassin, he logically defended his points, his main ones being that the Assassin is likely to townhunt following the death of the Emperor, thus decreasing his chance of working with us. Sino was misrepped by myself, Calix, and Unknown, (I know I realized I misunderstood him, and I believe Calix admitted this as well) but in the face of it kept asking questions to get others to clarify their sometimes-faulty reasoning. Sino consistently seeks to resolve confusion and calls out people for gaps in their reasoning or their evidence (especially in the case of Unknown casting shade on Sino)

    My only concern about Sino would be that he didn't, at least early on, go after anyone strongly as being suspicious or try to push a train, merely disagreeing with their faulty reasoning. I find it possible that he was a shy scum trying to blend, but I presently find this to be a poor explanation in the context that EVERYONE was doing setup spec and basically no scum hunting, so I can't logically scumread him for something everyone was doing at the time.

    Spoiler : Partial ISO on Sino :
    3 - RV yzb
    4 - tells Gyrlander to set auto-hammer
    6 - fluff
    10 - calls Mesk out on not RV'ing
    12 - rhetorically asks me if SJ is always scummy
    14 - fluff
    17 - prefers replacements to PL
    24 - disagrees with Calix on leader claiming; okay with lynching least useful player if there are no leads
    27 - asks Calix why she suggested revealing the leader
    30 - asks Calix again, after she didn't answer
    34 - incredulous at Calix's response, (removing a person from the lynch pool) asks again
    38 - defends asking again; accuses Calix of TPR hunting
    43 - openly wonders why Assassin would accept the deal I proposed
    47 - asks why town wants neutral to win with them; states Assassin would never accept a deal
    49 - asks again, this time to me, why Assassin would side withtown
    54 - concedes worthiness in trying to control SK kill, but maintains it's pointless.
    59 - disagrees with leader revealing after Emperor death as it gives scum a NK
    63 - (mistakenly?) has no issue with guard killing a claimed neutral
    73 - responds to Unknown
    75 - "LOL, nice try." in response to Unknown characterize Sino as throwing shade
    82 - tells Unknown to stop throwing shade
    85 - says Assassin has no reason to out Empress in a death note
    92 - justifies Unknown as throwing shade for painting Sino's posts as scummy
    108 - repeats to Calix previous views on Assassin, returns again to question about Empress-related death note
    123 - concedes Unknown wasn't all-out trying to lynch Sino; repeats question on DN again
    130 - clarifies post #12
    136 - refutes RLVG's concern about possibility of neut changing alignment because of how hard it is to lynch their targets
    139 - responds to SJ that he didn't say why SK would be trusting
    147 - repeats point about Assassin going after town when Emperor dies being a flaw in the plan
    157 - again claims guard killing Assassin is a good thing, perhaps not realizing guard doesn't die when they kill the Assassin
    166 - repeats a preference for Assassin not leaving early, as it gives scum a NK
    168 - votes Calix for misrepping his position
    194 - questions my unintentional misrep


    And to that angle, I now nominate an alternative train: Unknown. I haven't read all of his posts yet, (frankly, I don't think any past ~400) but his opening bothered me a LOT, and going back again I see my concerns were spot-on: he claims to have scummy feelings about Sino, but doesn't give a single reason why, and frankly I see quite the opposite. I find it quite unlike Unknown to be afraid to be articulate, and to be this prone to misreps. (although I have seen it before from Unknown)

    -vote Unknown1234


    (I'm not opposed to other trains if someone would like to explain the reasoning behind DW or RLVG, but Unknown is the person who stuck out as most scummy in my review of posts 1-200)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  49. ISO #799

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    Thoughts on the posts since I was last here:

    RLVG and Mesk are by far the weakest links here. Mesk is basically entirely fluff and one-line un-expanded points, while RLVG spent most of his time doing setup spec while having not read the setup correctly. I consider both of these acceptable lynches if we cannot come to a consensus on scum.

    SW seems to be continuously missing my point about why I scumread SJ, and I really don't know how to make it more clear that I scumread him for being shallow. I was only bringing up the point about him leaving because Calix kept asking.

    On SJ, he's probably my next person to try a deep read on. I didn't like what I saw from him initially, but I'm open to the idea that we simply have clashing playstyles and he's just coming at things from a completely different angle and being maligned for things that don't really matter, much like Sino was.

    Calix has made it very clear that she scumreads Sino for almost every vote being a vote back on someone who had voted him, and perhaps a general attitude of defensiveness. While I'm not going to deny that these are fine reasons to read a person in general, for this instance I feel they miss the broader picture of Sino's agenda; Sino has definitely been pro-town through his productive directing of discussion. Sure, scum can be pro-town as well, but I would expect scum to be "pro-town with a hidden agenda," something like trying to discredit someone via fairly logical but subtly overstated attacks. I really just don't see Sino as doing anything other than calling out misreps. At worst, Sino's agenda is to survive, which could be weakly scum-indicative, but he's certainly not the easily-agitated scum Calix is painting him as.

    I don't like Calix's read, but I don't scumread her for it for the time being. Calix is employing perfectly valid tells, and while I'd normally suspect her as scum for being a bit overbearing in these and not seeing the nuance or looking in to why someone might be town, I've been burned before. My gut is that this is Tracer all over again, and until I give Calix another pass, she's at worst neut to me, and definitely on my "would not lynch" list.

    DW's posts have not phased me. Neither have ika's. Both, at this point, are rather null to me.

    I like SP's turnaround from his opening posts, at least at a glance. He's certainly being productive, and probably more maligned than he deserves.

    yzb just bothers me on a gut level. Focuses on points others have already repeated and that are mostly irrelevant. For now, an acceptable lynch, but I would put him after the players I've already listed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  50. ISO #800

    Re: S-FM 220: Empire

    ....I waited 7 hours....for this....
    So disappointed
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

 

 

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