S-FM 207 Island Conflict

[Never Unlucky]

It's too much that both eggy and kovath are voting minized.

My thoughts exactly.

[Spruance]

-vote MiniZed

CALIX CALIX CALIX

[The Godfather]

MiniZed has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


MiniZed (5 [L-0]): Simple Joy, Spruance, Eggy, Calix, Kovath
Kovath (3 [L-2]): MiniZed, Never Unlucky, MattZed

[Iced_Monopoly]

S-FM Island Conflict

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Day One
Night One
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NIGHT TWO

The council gathered around with torches in hand. MiniZed was deemed a traitor to the island and her people, and as such would be treated in the appropriate manner; burnt alive. MiniZed's role was Tribesman

Spoiler : Last Will :

Kovath and Eggy.

Nice work Calix, you really solved the game by being obnoxious, pissing me off and really doing a good job at detecting my attitude being scummy

Players Alive	Roles	Graveyard
Mesk514	Elder	Mesk514 - Elder
Calix	Tribesman	MiniZed - Tribesman
RLVG MattZed	Hidden Tribe
Kovath	Hidden Tribe
Eggy	Hidden Tribe
Spruance	Hidden Tribe
MiniZed	Hidden Tribe
Never Unlucky	Hidden Expansionist
Gyrlander Simple Joy	Hidden Expansionist
DarknessB	Hidden Supernatural

Night ends in 24 hours
Time till night end

[Iced_Monopoly]

S-FM Island Conflict

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Day One
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Day Three
DAY THREE

The council members awoke to a gruesome sight, during the night, 2 of their own had been killed.
@Never Unlucky was murdered, his role wasTribesman

Spoiler : Last Will :

Spoiler : MiniZed lynch edit :

I TOLD YOU IDIOTS THAT MINIZED WAS TOWN! DID I TELL YOU OR DID I TELL YOU?
DB, CALIX, UNKNOWN, SUCK IT WITH « THE NEVER UNLUCKY IS A SHEEP », I WAS THE ONLY ONE STANDING UP FOR UNKNOWN, THE FIRST ONE PUSHING FOR EGGY AND THE ONLY ONE NOT SHEEPING CALIX EVERYWHERE.
Y’ALL BETTER VOTE ME FOR MVP, MORONS.
Original LW : Yeah, I wasn’t Shaman. My fakeclaim saved Calix/Spruance, so be thankful for that. Calix, type « I love Never Unlucky » in chat and I won’t regret dying for your blind-tunneling self.

Calix
Spruance
DB – RIP
MiniZed – RIP
Kovath
Eggy
Simple Joy?
MattZed

Day 3:3v2v1 - Town doesn't have majority anymore. Push for Kovath/MattZed as Eggy is dying to the vigi.
DB, sucks that Spruance shot you. You were a really cool guy, I enjoyed reading your posts a lot.

@DarknessB succumbed to poison, his role wasTribesman

Spoiler : Last Will :

Good luck, Town -- this is a rough situation and you're going to need to be almost perfect or have some major luck. I know I had a rough start to this game (on account of lashing out when I was pushed on what I thought were minor points), but I hope I helped especially toward the end of Day 2 in terms of pushing the scum cases on Kovath and Eggy. Here are my final reads:

Town Reads

Spruance
He's confirmed town as the Blowgun Warrior, which is the end of the actual read. His judgment is highly questionable at times (blowgunning another Town indiscriminately, outing himself as a TPR during the middle of the day for no reason, switching votes with minutes to spare, etc.), but he's confirmed based on having been attacked and died to his blow gun attack. Of note, no one else counterclaimed him. I guess we'll have to see whether he survives tonight.

Calix
The closest other bet to confirmed Town. Cannot be groupscum in any reasonable universe given Mesk's night action and the very small chance that groupscum would attack Mesk after she was almost lynched during Day 1. Could be the Supernatural, but I believe there are too many other likely candidates for that to be the case. Her play has improved toward the second half of Day 2 and seems more objective with her reads and pushes now. I think this is an example of flawed reads / conflating contribution and pro-Town play with actually being Town.

Simple Joy
Very little contribution, but the amounts he's done seem to have come from a Town perspective. A train very easily piled up on him full of voters without great explanations (Kovath, Eggy, MiniZed, etc.). Sure, he's been stubborn and not willing to get into things too much, but nothing he's said has been off the radar or inconsistent with how a Town replacement might act. The fact he was so easily pressured and votes accumulated him suggests that he's Town too -- i.e. he didn't have any natural defenders, other than Calix. I read him as Town and hope that he steps it up, especially as the Town really need some help now

Never Unlucky
Seems a bit overeager to push for lynches, but had the right idea with MiniZed being Town. That said, his skepticism could have come from an informed perspective, but I find that hard to believe. Very eager to push lynches, but seems equal opportunity in terms of pushing everyone. There's an outside chance that he's the Supernatural, but that seems a bit less likely given recent events -- i.e. Neutral Scum might have been more likely to push any lynch at the end of the day whereas NU genuinely did not seem to want MiniZed lynched.

Scum Reads

Kovath
Likely groupscum with Eggy given MattZed's vote on Kovath, unless it was a bussing attempt. Otherwise, he could be groupscum with MattZed. Essentially zero interaction with MattZed or Eggy (very notable given they are my other scum suspects), very few scumreads on anyone except for me (which is very telling given he seemingly has thoughts on everyone), and has been somewhat passive in terms of engaging players aside from his scumread / push on me. I believe that his strategy this game has consisted of building cases / observations against most other players via wall posts so that players are afraid of pushing back against him. I read him as sneaky groupscum and his voting patterns have been terrible too -- pushed on Mesk, me, Simple Joy (likely town), and MiniZed -- 3 town and a likely Town. Unlike Calix, he's avoided being associated with these mistakes as well, which comes off a bit slippery. Definitely lynch him.

MattZed
Likely the Supernatural given his vote on Kovath, unless it was a bussing attempt by MattZed on Kovath. Has barely said anything, parked his vote on Kovath, and didn't contribute much more to the game beyond that. Seems like classic lurking scum by POE. Seemed to try a little too hard to get me to play nice with him to start Day 2, which caught me as a little bit odd and perhaps a pocket attempt. In his typical play, he rarely is the type to embrace "truces" so this raised my eyebrows a little, but I couldn't follow up because he never really came back into the game much as the day progressed. I'd say there's very little chance he's Town based on POE.

Eggy
Almost certainly groupscum with either Kovath (likely) or MattZed (less likely). Been on terrible lynch trains, those of Mesk, me, Simple Joy (likely town), and MiniZed, and not really owned up to any responsibility, but instead saying other people made those mistakes too. Really only participates when he is being scumread or pressed -- i.e. when Calix and I did so at the end of Day 2. Otherwise, is very passive and doesn't attempt to scumhunt at all. Overreliant on observations from another active game, Politico, which he uses as a crutch to avoid participation. Inclined to sheep and crib other's arguments as opposed to pushing any forward of his own. Got into an odd / scummy interaction with Calix where he was attempting to push the pre-flip pair of Calix and Simple Joy. Mesk herself, who is typically a big advocate of Eggy's, scumread him according to Calix (per their night chat). I just don't like how he's played at all and think he's groupscum for sure.

Players Alive	Roles	Graveyard
Mesk514	Elder	Mesk514 - Elder
Calix	Tribesman	MiniZed - Tribesman
RLVG MattZed	Tribesman	Never Unlucky - Tribesman
Kovath	Tribesman	DarknessB - Tribesman
Eggy	Hidden Tribe
Spruance	Hidden Tribe
MiniZed	Hidden Tribe
Never Unlucky	Hidden Expansionist
Gyrlander Simple Joy	Hidden Expansionist
DarknessB	Hidden Supernatural

4 votes to hammer.
Day ends in 48 hours
Time till day end

[Calix]

NU fake-claiming was a legitimately decent play, definitely helped remove him from the POE pool for once and for all.

Going to wait until Spruance gets on before voting.

I see Kovath as Neutral and Eggy/ MattZed as the Mafia. More confident on the mafia!Eggy read as MattZed is really hard to pin down.

[Spruance]

I shot eggy but maybe someone else got hit.

[Spruance]

We also don't have majority so rip

[Calix]

-vote MattZed

[Calix]

Scum should just concede tbh

[Spruance]

Scum should just concede tbh

Why did you vote MattZed?

[Calix]

Why did you vote MattZed?

I think he is Mafia. If you think otherwise then you can tell me now. No need for you to vote anyway.

[Spruance]

I think he is Mafia. If you think otherwise then you can tell me now. No need for you to vote anyway.

What about dealing with Kovath today?

[Eggy]

I think we should mass claim, im not scum btw you guys really are dissapointing teammates, especially calix. I will claim first If you guys agree. I have very useful information. I will not be on very much because I dont feel like it anymore but ive becided to help town as best I can.

[Eggy]

Town actually lost, I just did the math, nice job calix

[Calix]

You're not very good at maths then, otherwise you'd know that Town still has a (very slight) shot at winning this.

We only lose for sure if we lynch the Neutral today given the Mafia's win condition. Like I said, I feel that MattZed is Mafia but if anyone has any better candidates, I am all ears

[Kovath]

NU fake-claiming was a legitimately decent play, definitely helped remove him from the POE pool for once and for all.

Going to wait until Spruance gets on before voting.

I see Kovath as Neutral and Eggy/ MattZed as the Mafia. More confident on the mafia!Eggy read as MattZed is really hard to pin down.

-vote MattZed

Alright.

Calix / Simple Joy scum team, I guess. Neutral is... MattZed I guess?

[Kovath]

NU fake-claiming was a legitimately decent play, definitely helped remove him from the POE pool for once and for all.

Going to wait until Spruance gets on before voting.

I see Kovath as Neutral and Eggy/ MattZed as the Mafia. More confident on the mafia!Eggy read as MattZed is really hard to pin down.

Alright.

Calix / Simple Joy scum team, I guess. Neutral is... MattZed I guess?

Oh, nvm I missed Spruance's shot. Hmmm...

[Calix]

Alright.

Calix / Simple Joy scum team, I guess. Neutral is... MattZed I guess?

A reads list where Eggy is town. This is a pitiful effort.

Too bad this actually looks like a quality essay compared to the combined efforts of the Mafia lurkers.

Kill me now.

[Kovath]

A reads list where Eggy is town. This is a pitiful effort.

Too bad this actually looks like a quality essay compared to the combined efforts of the Mafia lurkers.

Kill me now.

I townread Eggy yesterday and there are several posts that explain why.

Why have you swapped your read on me to neutral after hard defending me from trains D1 and D2?

I think I agree with Eggy's idea.

[Kovath]

Honestly, Eggy, you're a dead man walking. You might as well just give us what you have.

[Calix]

I townread Eggy yesterday and there are several posts that explain why.

Why have you swapped your read on me to neutral after hard defending me from trains D1 and D2?

I think I agree with Eggy's idea.

POE. The game is solved, but Town can do nothing about it. I refuse to go along with your pathetic attempts at pretending that it isn't so.

Kingmaker situations between lurk-ass scum team and slightly less lurk-ass you incoming.

Joy.

[Eggy]

Im sentry I know who the neutral is. I also have more useful info but am going to wait for spruance to be here before I say anything because he is the only confirmed town.

[Eggy]

I really dont see how town can win at this point. But wtv.

[Calix]

lmao

I'm just going to sit back and watch the scum pretend that they're not scum.

This is literally Flashpoint Revisited 2.0, except that now I'm on the other side of the fence.

[Eggy]

POE. The game is solved, but Town can do nothing about it. I refuse to go along with your pathetic attempts at pretending that it isn't so.

Kingmaker situations between lurk-ass scum team and slightly less lurk-ass you incoming.

Joy.

Didnt understand this post at all. What does POE mean?

[Eggy]

lmao

I'm just going to sit back and watch the scum pretend that they're not scum.

This is literally Flashpoint Revisited 2.0, except that now I'm on the other side of the fence.

Probably what you have been doing all game lol

[Calix]

Probably what you have been doing all game lol

Keep it up with your shit-tier Mafia play and I'm 100% getting Town to side with the Neutral, no quibbling.

[Eggy]

@Spruance we need you. Only person I can trust to have towns interest at heart. Even if you have terrible aim lol

[Eggy]

Keep it up with your shit-tier Mafia play and I'm 100% getting Town to side with the Neutral, no quibbling.

So you realize town cant win? why would I care lol

[Calix]

@Spruance we need you. Only person I can trust to have towns interest at heart. Even if you have terrible aim lol

So you weren't even shot?

[Eggy]

Keep it up with your shit-tier Mafia play and I'm 100% getting Town to side with the Neutral, no quibbling.

Do you realize how stupid you are going to look at the end of this game tho? Never in all my time on the forum have I seen worse town play(if you are town)

[Calix]

So you realize town cant win? why would I care lol

Because you are Mafia and unless you lynch the Neutral, you'll lose with me

[Eggy]

Because you are Mafia and unless you lynch the Neutral, you'll lose with me

So you did the math and realized that town cant win? Well I kno who the neutral is lol I dont even have to say anything though im sure hes getting lynched today anyway.

[Eggy]

Once spruance is back ill reveal this info and be gone since I dont really have much left to do lol.

[Calix]

So you did the math and realized that town cant win? Well I kno who the neutral is lol I dont even have to say anything though im sure hes getting lynched today anyway.

Once you openly said "I wasn't shot" then yeah, Town has no chance now.

That's why I am voting for your Mafia partner now.

If you could keep making these comments without me prodding you, that would be good.

[Calix]

Eggy, you do realise that we're in a kingmaker situation where Town decides which scum faction wins, yeah?

I am only dicking around because I want to see what you have to say about it.

[Calix]

@Spruance @Simple Joy @Kovath just vote MattZed. No sense in rewarding the Mafia for lurking their way through the game.

[Eggy]

Lol I wasnt shot, that wasnt even a soft claim.

[Kovath]

So you realize town cant win? why would I care lol

Lol I wasnt shot, that wasnt even a soft claim.

So you're claiming not shot and Mafia? lol

[Calix]

So you're claiming not shot and Mafia? lol

If the next thing you post isn't a vote on MattZed, you'd better have a god-tier explanation of why you're going against your wincon ready.

[Eggy]

So you're claiming not shot and Mafia? lol

No im sentry I didnt get shot. Wait for spruance to say what he has to say, he probably fake claimed to see if Id go along with it or it was riderected .

[Calix]

[QUOTE=Eggy;631739]No im sentry I didnt get shot. Wait for spruance to say what he has to say, he probably fake claimed to see if Id go along with it or it was riderected .[/QUOTE]

You are an unbelievably bad liar.

This line screams "I'M A REDIRECTING ROLE THAT TARGETED SPRUANCE LAST NIGHT"

Fuck, even Spruance called it in his post. No idea how he keeps doing that. It's like a worse version of Unknown.

[Eggy]

Calix is neutral idc care anymore

-vote calix

let her win if you want.

[Spruance]

Eggy if you weren't shot who was?

[Spruance]

But I agree if town has a 0% chance of winning I want to lynch Calix.

[Calix]

Eggy if you weren't shot who was?

Who even knows?

He's just outed himself as the Mafia Witch and he wasn't even trying to do that.

I am legitimately impressed at the ineptitude.

Just vote someone.

[Calix]

But I agree if town has a 0% chance of winning I want to lynch Calix.

If you want Mafia to win, vote anyone but Eggy/ MattZed.

Just do SOMETHING.

[Spruance]

If you want Mafia to win, vote anyone but Eggy/ MattZed.

Just do SOMETHING.

The only real thing I can do is drag the day on, and I intend to do that.

[Calix]

The only real thing I can do is drag the day on, and I intend to do that.

Why?