S-FM President

[Abraham Lincoln]

@John Kennedy , do me a favor and please reread Lincoln with scum motivations. I'll do the research and reread on a question you ask too. I think, that Clinton is a bruiser, Lincoln claimed for no reason bc they were never getting killed, and need 1 mislynch to win the game.

I literally would have just followed you, but now Lincoln just said to vote for me. which is ????????????

I strongly believe Lincoln is defending Clinton albeit in a very confusing, anti-town way.

Reads List
Clinton
Lincoln
Nixon/Jefferson

Trump
Reagan
JFK
Me

Vote you FOR President, why would I yell for people to vote you for a fucking Lynch?

[George Bush]

Dude I was saying that everyone should vote you for President...

oh. no, JFK doesn't appear to support me as President, so vote for Reagan instead.

[Ronald Reagan]

I did that because I believed lynching Trump as that time was REALLY dumb, we were pressuring him, we were not in the process to lynch him in the middle of the god damn day.
If you believe I am scum with Trump because I saved him at that time, we can still lynch him. But well you know who also saved Trump? you !

Nevermind, as Clinton said, I am deadweight, I did nothing the whole game (#sarcasm)

[George Bush]

oh. no, JFK doesn't appear to support me as President, so vote for Reagan instead.

oh err, vote clinton, not reagan.

[Ronald Reagan]

I pushed Trump, I refused to lynch Trump, I refused to lynch Washington (who was fucking town !), I gave my reads pretty early and pushed people like Nixon/Jefferson to get their reads, but still, I did nothing in the game.
Praise Jefferson/Trump for their wonderful ways of playing ! If we were all like them, we would have a game full of afk/trolls.

[Ronald Reagan]

-vote Bill Clinton

get lost. I don't care if you are town of scums atm.

[George Bush]

Though I think we're going down the wrong path, I'll hammer Reagan when it comes down to it and be voting Bush. I trust JFK, but can't appear to work with them. Until then, I'm hoping for the Clinton lynch.

[Bill Clinton]

Reagan iso

Spoiler : first post ever. :

Hi, I am Reagan ! What's up?

@Ronald Reagan

My fellow Americans, I have just signed a law that will ban Russia forever. Bombing will commence in five minutes.
I want to stress that this is a game and the lines above are a quote from one of Reagan's speeches. I don't want the Spetsnaz to come knocking over this.

It was meant to be a joke, don't you dare speak about it !



Same with me, and my knowledges about american presidents are not good enough to roleplay Reagan !



It's ok to give early reads, I read everything in a row and most of the posts are just shitposts.
If you have already a readlist about everything who have been said, please tell us.

boring. next.

Which is why, I think, we should establish some rules...

Claim before you get lynched and do not lie.

That's actualy what town have to do.

WOW. SO HELPFUL. /sarcasm

Why?

asking why he was town reading Roosevelt. maybe to get townread himself? maybe just to ask why.

Spoiler : you can't pressure on day 1! :

I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish since votes are not very usefull right now but well !
I know that we have to pressure people, but how can we do that if the threat of being lynch is not here?

The whole purpose of D1 is actualy to pressure people to get informations. and in this setup, we can't do that.
We will play 48 hours without the possibility of pressuring people, and you can vote me as much as you want, I won't feel pressured since it's not possible atm.
At least tomorrow we will have a kind of 'mayor' so the whole D1's purpose is not lost.
If we elect a scum, that mean scums will have the advantage. If we elect a town and scums kill him, apperently we will lose another day to elect another president.
Which mean...at some points, scums can chain kill the president and we will never lynch?

Of course, I hope we will have some town prot or a sponsor to save the president.

You mean in the mod when D1 is mostly a shitstorm and last for 20/30 sec?
Yeah I am definitely sure that scums feel pressured D1.



I have no way to know your role, and you can do it if you think I am scum, it's your right.
I am trying to understand the settings and what is best for us. Now you are mostly focused on me because I am the only one around there.

don't forget how anti-day one pressure he was.

Scumslip right there. Care to explain this?

-vote Ronald Reagan

And what should I explain exactly?

Lincoln thinks he scumslipped early in day one.

I think it's better to know right now who is the neutral. Glad to see you !
Any counterclaim? Or your purpose is actualy to find the real neutral?

neutral hunting

Hey guys, I just woke up and I will be super busy af today (tournament and some shits), I have nothing plan and I am on vacation next week so I will be free !
Sorry ! I will throw my vote on washinghton.

voted the neutral for president, and that was his last post of day 1.


day 2:

By the way, why the 'article' is totaly blank?

I didn't see that that way, I thought everyone would have say something. Town to actually help town, and scum to look like a town. Even the neutral should have said something. So I am confused about it.

i think, based on these posts, if Reagan flips scum Nixon is town, and vice versa to be true.

Spoiler : interactions with nixon :

Since it's only the three of us right now, I have noticed something (well it's not me but JFK) and I think it's kind of interesting.
@Richard Nixon
What do you have to answer about that confidence?

Dude, wtf.

I am not sure between Trump or Nixon, who we should be pushing. Even if it was not that clear for me, I actualy noticed that Nixon tried to redirect. That's why I asked him his read after that.

-vote Richard Nixon

I have the feeling that will be more useful on Nixon.

I think that is the only reasonable thing you could have said after Washington revealed and I trust that.
Simply because I see no benefict for a scum to claim being survivor since there is already a neutral who will counter-claim.
The only reason I can see is a WIFOM one but wtf, that is far too balzy.

Now if we look about Roosevelt, he claimed turncoat :

Once dead, you may choose a player at night to possess during the day.

Which mean if you are going to kill him, you will have to kill him twice?
What prevent him to take Washington place?

Now his 'turncoat' claim can just be a false claim to prevent him being killed (if he is survivor for example).
At the moment, I believe roosevelt is neutral and It make more sense that Washington is town.

That being said, Washington/Roosevelt already talked about that, we can still push to get more informations but I am not sure that will help us right now.
Instead, we was talking about Trump/Nixon and I still think it's more valuable for us to push them.

-vote Richard Nixon

interacting and pushes /nixon - i gain nothing from these but putthing them here if anyone needs it.

With another dude claiming to be assassin, does that actually make sense? I don't think so

why is this scummy to me?

found it !

yayyy so you are helpful.

So what are your reads?

asking the still 'neutral' president for his reads. ok, nbd.

@George Washington

If I remember, you said early D2 that you have a readlist.
Can you tell us what you are thinking?

and again later.

I don't think he was talking about the survivor. I usualy support survivor claim in the mod, I think lynching them when they reveal D1/D2 is a dumb thing.
Giving him the power is a different thing but I can see why that is a good plan.
I think JFK was more talking about a general confidence.

ok but u voted him tho lol

Actually, if you are really survivor (which I believe since there is no counter-claim), you don't know who scums are.
So how will you know if the dude actually pushed (later) will be pushed by scums or town?

"how can us mafia know if ur on our side?"

How are we going to pressure people if we are not allowed to vote?

"i want to lynch!"

Calm down, it's not like I am scumreading you. I thought JFK had a good point, since scum are usualy not confused and town are ! So I wanted to hear you about it.
I don't have strong reads right now who could be usefull.
I trust Obama/Lincolm specially because they was actually trying to resolve the game D1 when people was roleplaying/shitposting.
Trump is kind of suspicious for me, he did nothing really useful, even jefferson was more useful than him (and he only have 9 posts...).
Trump is either a tpr hiding or a scum hiding, and his 'role' (aka trump) is really good to just shitpost which is actually not helping town.

if he is mafia, here he is admitting the benefits of keeping trump's useless ass alive.

As I said, it's not really significant enough to be say now. Plus, I should read again everything to make an opinion about you and Kennedy.
I can see some possibilities where Clinton's hard claim is totally town aligned. Which should be not really discuss right now.
Anyway, if he is scum, that was really too risky. Which make me think he actually have good intentions.

By the way, it's nice to see you want to see what I think, but what about you? What is your readlist?

protecting the wifoam, +town points.

it's 2 and half am here so I am gonna sleep. I won't put a vote right now to avoid any turbolynch.
Have fun !

look at me! i'm so town!

I have a weird feeling about these two quotes :x
He is either claiming tpr or he is a scum asking for his role.
I actualy never thought about if scums know or don't know each other's identities.
In the mod, they know, it should be logical to think they knew too D1 in the FM.

in response to lincoln. they are also not on the same team i believe (if reagan is scum)

Wait what !

-vote unvote

unvotes when he finds out he has a new ally?

So, does that mean you are teaming me with Nixon? Since we are the two most suspicious dude in your list.

Hum ok, so let's see how that evolve since D2 just started.
It's pretty simple actually, D1 was about shitposting/roleplaying and I was afk most of the time where I could have been useful (last 20 hours).
Plus, there was no lynch yesterday so it was difficult to pressure people. Maybe I am being helpful now because I actually can be helpful? aka not being afk and being able to pressure people.
Thanks you for your list of reads, you didn't post much but that is actualy giving us informations and making to game going forward.

interactions w/bush.

I don't understand the connexion between you roleblocking Truman and scums killing him.
Can you explain that?
Or is that a way to look townish 'hey, I roleblocked Truman, so I can't be scum'?

Yeah, and beside that, if they would have figured that he is escort, why not just kill him? Imo, getting rid of a town prot is actually what scums WANT.
Maybe he think he slipped or maybe he is just trying to look townish right now.
If he is town, it's either they didn't believe him or they didn't notice it.

Lincoln is actually one of my top town read for actively trying D1. But I am not sure he is helping us right now with that discussion and by revealing.

Worst than that, if he is the ONLY town prot we have, he just put a target on him for nothing.

i have to give him credit here...that escort slip crap made no sense...

but HOLD DA PHONE

You mean this one?
I don't know, seriously with that question at that time, I could have never think you are escort
Now that you revealed, yeah maybe it make sense.
Apparently, noone have reacted to your question.

SCUM SLIP? hmMmMmMMmM...

Yeah which mean :

-he is either town and that make sense
-he is actualy scum and he wanted to out the neutral AND look townish by doing that, which put him in the spotlight and I agree, give the 'mayor' power role to a scum.

Except if we have a sheriff who can check our president, I think it's like 50/50.

ah, the infamous sheriff scandal that got him all worked up lol.

Let's see it differently,
if he flip town, what does that say about other people?
Same question if he flip scum?

And why am I paired with Washington suddenly?

talking to the neutral. ??????/ scummy

Which actualy mean nothing. If you are not willing to help us resolve the game, even if later you are 100% right about the game, noone will trust you.
But that sound more like you will wait for the end and just say 'I knew it !'

interaction with trump

lincoln asked why he is focused on trump getting this reply:

I am not focus on him, my vote is on Nixon lol. I don't understand why people are townreading him either since he is just shitposting and not participating...

which is true

Spoiler : bla al ablalbla long post :

From Washington's side:

The other possibility is he is journalist or another role who is useless in his mind, so he didn't care about losing his ability.

Since you are all focus on Washington/Teddy, I will try to see the differents scenarios :

first possiblity : We lynch Washington ==>

Wash is really town / Teddy is really neutral :
Worst case scenario, that mean we are losing our time on them, we lynch Wash, he flip town then what? we lynch teddy? Then if he is turncoat, he will possess another dude and if we are unlucky, he will possess a town, then we are fucked.

Wash is scum / Teddy is neutral :
We lynch a scum, that's best scenario, tomorrow we have to vote another president, in this case, I guess voting teddy is a good choice.

Wash is town / Teddy is town :
I have no ideas how that could be possible ~~

Wash is town / Teddy is scum :
Obviously, in this case scums know that Wash is town, but pushing a lynch on a town president will end up by Teddy being shot by Clinton or lynch. Plus that mean there is the real neutral who didn't say shit the whole time, that's not really probably imo.

Wash is neutral / Teddy is town or scum :
I don't see why a scum or a town in this situation would push to lynch a neutral oO, and Wash actualy confirmed he lied about being neutral, so that doesn't make sense.

Second possiblity : We lynch Teddy ==>

Teddy is town ==> So why Wash said he lied about being neutral? and why the true neutral didn't revealed?
Teddy is scum ==> Why a scum claimed neutral to counter claim another neutral? In this case, why Wash said he lied about being neutral?
Teddy is neutral AND turncoat ==> GG he will control someone and tomorrow, we will still don't know if Wash is town or scum. That won't prove anything.
Teddy is neutral AND not turncoat ==> well he is dead, neutral is really dead but we still don't know what Wash is.

In my opinion it's either :
Wash is town / Teddy is neutral OR Wash is scum / Teddy is neutral

I believe Teddy is neutral since noone counter claimed him and Wash admited he lied.
It's a mess, which is sure is if Wash is town, we are just wasting our time on them and scums are happy af.

[George Bush]

@Donald Trump get your dead weight ass off of Jefferson.

[Bill Clinton]

-vote unvote

[Abraham Lincoln]

My head feels like stuffed cabbage. Fuck.

[Bill Clinton]

Abraham Lincoln : Most confused dude in the game which is actualy town aligned, he wasn't willing to speed lynch which is also town aligned, except if Trumpt flip scum later.

Bill Clinton : I do believe his claim D1 is town aligned, he revealed to put pressure on people.

John Kennedy : He actualy tried to push Nixon, I don't know what is Nixon but he is one of the only person who tried to push people to get information D2.

George Washington : For me the whole drama roosevelt/Washington just put us in a position where Washington have 50% chances to be scum and 50% chances to be town. Still, thanks to him, we were able to push Trump. I do believe he is town for now.

Barack Obama : I can't read that slot, he has been mostly afk during D2, maybe slipped, at the moment I don't know how to place him.

George Bush : Not very active but gave us a list of reads, he is being aggressive D2, I would like to read more about him.

Theodore Roosevelt : he is neutral imo, noone counter claimed him and I don't think that make sense that the real neutral didn't do shit.
I do not necessarily believe he is turncoat, even a survivor could have some interest to claim turncoat (not being lynched).
By his claim, depending of what Washington is, he is probably scum aligned.

Thomas Jefferson : Never voted, was mostly useless, why is he in the game? If he is town, he is really useless for us, slighly scum for not helping town and not scum hunting.

Richard Nixon : I won't say he is totally in my scum list because he isn't but I am still waiting for his read list (after like... 20 hours now?), which actually look scum.

Donald Trump : Most useless dude ever, just shitposting, we put pressure on him then he panicked and 'went to sleep' to avoid partipating.

I think my readlist will quickly change, mostly because a lot of people have been semi-afk or didn't participate much. I think we will be able to read alignement more clearly next day with today's lynch, how people voted and who scums will kill tonight.

this is a reads list and idk m8 ur only scumreading afk people. which is understandable but also can be seen as reaching for LHF

[Abraham Lincoln]

Who the fuck was saying D1 that Truman/Obama were town?

[Bill Clinton]

by the way, since we are the only people connected right now, why do you pair me with Jefferson? And why suddenly?
And specially, how the hell can you trust Nixon? oO, he was cautious the whole game and NEVER told us his readlist. (after what, 30 hours now?)

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[George Bush]

neutral hunting

I stopped reading after you said this post was neutral hunting. I don't think neutral hunting is bad, nor did Reagan say anything in that post. I'll move on when I get more clarification on why that helps build the case that he's scum.

Otherwise, its fluff.

[Ronald Reagan]

[CENTER][SIZE=5][B][COLOR="#FF0000"]Reagan iso

Seriously, It's a huge list where mostly, I don't understand what you are quoting and your own comments about that.

[Abraham Lincoln]

I'm going to sleep, my head hurts like hell atm. Sorry lads.

[Bill Clinton]

Seriously, It's a huge list where mostly, I don't understand what you are quoting and your own comments about that.

i stopped bc its inconclusive
i am now 2000% confused

[Ronald Reagan]

this is a reads list and idk m8 ur only scumreading afk people. which is understandable but also can be seen as reaching for LHF

I am only scumreading one afk for being afk => Jefferson.
Trump panicked when he was pushed, as I said, and Nixon refused to write a god damn read list for more than 30 hours omg.
You are just twisting my words all along.

[Abraham Lincoln]

I also want a list of who the fuck voted for who on D1 ASAP, this is extremely important.

[Bill Clinton]

I stopped reading after you said this post was neutral hunting. I don't think neutral hunting is bad, nor did Reagan say anything in that post. I'll move on when I get more clarification on why that helps build the case that he's scum.

Otherwise, its fluff.

mafia likes to know where the neutral is, especially since our neutral is now mafia aligned

[Bill Clinton]

I am only scumreading one afk for being afk => Jefferson.
Trump panicked when he was pushed, as I said, and Nixon refused to write a god damn read list for more than 30 hours omg.
You are just twisting my words all along.

welcome to mafia

I also want a list of who the fuck voted for who on D1 ASAP, this is extremely important.

go find my post where i did that

[Ronald Reagan]

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You made a huge ISO, you commented about my read list, but still, I don't get why the fuck you are thinking I am useless.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Someone get me a list of who the fuck voted for who on d1, and if you can track down A.L.L. the posts that mention why 'X' is voting for Y

[Abraham Lincoln]

@Ronald Reagan and @Bill Clinton both of you shut the fuck up and do as I asked.

[John Kennedy]

@John Kennedy , do me a favor and please reread Lincoln with scum motivations. I'll do the research and reread on a question you ask too. I think, that Clinton is a bruiser, Lincoln claimed for no reason bc they were never getting killed, and need 1 mislynch to win the game.

I literally would have just followed you, but now Lincoln just said to vote for me. which is ????????????

I strongly believe Lincoln is defending Clinton albeit in a very confusing, anti-town way.

Reads List
Clinton
Lincoln
Nixon/Jefferson

Trump
Reagan
JFK
Me

I already did, and couldn't find the scum motivation ^^ I already checked that, and nope. But now, Reagan... I don't have a strong belief that he is town, I've never had that. He posted a lot, though.

If Clinton was to be scum, Jefferson is definetly his teammate. But I don't believe it. I also believe you're town. Which leaves Reagan, Trump and........ Nixon?

[Ronald Reagan]

mafia likes to know where the neutral is, especially since our neutral is now mafia aligned

When someone claim Neutral, it's normal to ask if someone is counter claiming him, I am not the only one who did that, and I am pretty sure almost EVERYONE did that.

[George Bush]

mafia likes to know where the neutral is, especially since our neutral is now mafia aligned

me, as a towns person, likes to know where the neutral is too. it's to disallow mafia claiming neutral(which btw would have helped you shoot Roosevelt).

[Abraham Lincoln]

I already did, and couldn't find the scum motivation ^^ I already checked that, and nope. But now, Reagan... I don't have a strong belief that he is town, I've never had that. He posted a lot, though.

If Clinton was to be scum, Jefferson is definetly his teammate. But I don't believe it. I also believe you're town. Which leaves Reagan, Trump and........ Nixon?

What the fuck does this mean?

[Abraham Lincoln]

I also want to state that someone said that the Mafia were voting for someone to be President. That is absolutely stupid, the mafia don't need to out themselves day fucking one.

[George Bush]

I already did, and couldn't find the scum motivation ^^ I already checked that, and nope. But now, Reagan... I don't have a strong belief that he is town, I've never had that. He posted a lot, though.

If Clinton was to be scum, Jefferson is definetly his teammate. But I don't believe it. I also believe you're town. Which leaves Reagan, Trump and........ Nixon?

Again, I'll hammer Reagan, but if you're town and Clinton ends up being scum, please instant lynch that shit in future games. Like it should be right now. There's a reason why mafia didn't kill the claimed town assassin day 2

[Abraham Lincoln]

I also want to state that someone said that the Mafia were voting for someone to be President. That is absolutely stupid, the mafia don't need to out themselves day fucking one.

As in, we can safely treat all the Presidential bids on d1 as NON-SCUM because getting elected n1 as scum = fucking insane play.

[Ronald Reagan]

Again, I'll hammer Reagan, but if you're town and Clinton ends up being scum, please instant lynch that shit in future games. Like it should be right now. There's a reason why mafia didn't kill the claimed town assassin day 2

there are multiple reasons :
-he is scum
-they didn't believe his claim
-they believed he was going to miss shot

[Abraham Lincoln]

@Everyone quit your bickering and tell me what's wrong about my argument, if anything.

[Abraham Lincoln]

there are multiple reasons :
-he is scum
-they didn't believe his claim
-they believed he was going to miss shot

See, stupid shit like this is not fucking useful. We can put it literally any way. GO DO WHAT I TOLD YOU TO DO.

[George Bush]

@Everyone quit your bickering and tell me what's wrong about my argument, if anything.

you've had at least 10 arguments, most of which are conflicting. which one again?

[Abraham Lincoln]

As in, we can safely treat all the Presidential bids on d1 as NON-SCUM because getting elected n1 as scum = fucking insane play.

This one.

[Abraham Lincoln]

The Presidential votes as well as D1 interactions DO NOT lie. Electing someone as President is a much, much sounder investment and expression of your reads than a Lynch. Lynching X can mean a lot of things. Electing someone for President can only mean four things:
a) You trust them
b) It's part of your wincon - ROOSEVELT
c) You're electing a puppet figure through which you can expand your rule - MAFIA
d) You're trying to see what this person would do with their extra votes.

[Ronald Reagan]

See, stupid shit like this is not fucking useful. We can put it literally any way. GO DO WHAT I TOLD YOU TO DO.

Stupid shit like this... Well, I will take a break, that whole debate is slowly pissing me off.
Washington and Obama was the 'potential' president D1. I believe jefferson said once at the end of D1 that he wanted to be president.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Stupid shit like this... Well, I will take a break, that whole debate is slowly pissing me off.
Washington and Obama was the 'potential' president D1. I believe jefferson said once at the end of D1 that he wanted to be president.

Yes because you people are tunneling on each other like horses. THIS IS NOT FUCKING PRODUCTIVE, GO FUCKING READ - WE HAVE YET TO TRULY ASCERTAIN WHO IS WHO

[Abraham Lincoln]

Yes because you people are tunneling on each other like horses. THIS IS NOT FUCKING PRODUCTIVE, GO FUCKING READ - WE HAVE YET TO TRULY ASCERTAIN WHO IS WHO

Nvm misread, sorry.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Stupid shit like this... Well, I will take a break, that whole debate is slowly pissing me off.
Washington and Obama was the 'potential' president D1. I believe jefferson said once at the end of D1 that he wanted to be president.

Yep but I want to know exactly who and, hold on to your hats, WHAT REASON THEY HAD to favour a certain candidate.

[George Bush]

This one.

Mafia taking presidency, and trying to be super town and lasting to the end sounds like a dcent scum plan. Also causing 2 mislynches and then dying sounds fine too. All that argument says is that you wouldn't be able to pull it off.

Who were the presidential bids?

[Abraham Lincoln]

Mafia taking presidency, and trying to be super town and lasting to the end sounds like a dcent scum plan. Also causing 2 mislynches and then dying sounds fine too. All that argument says is that you wouldn't be able to pull it off.

Who were the presidential bids?

Do you have any idea how difficult it would be for a President to hold on to their power after a mislynch? We lynched our own and he didn't even Lynch anyone yet!

[Abraham Lincoln]

Do you have any idea how difficult it would be for a President to hold on to their power after a mislynch? We lynched our own and he didn't even Lynch anyone yet!

Besides, it is *very* difficult to balance between leading the town and pushing your agenda as a scummish mayor. You know culled mayors usually get discovered almost immediately in the mod, right?

[Abraham Lincoln]

Do you have any idea how difficult it would be for a President to hold on to their power after a mislynch? We lynched our own and he didn't even Lynch anyone yet!

People inherently mistrust someone who has more power than them because they can fuck'ed over.

[George Bush]

Do you have any idea how difficult it would be for a President to hold on to their power after a mislynch? We lynched our own and he didn't even Lynch anyone yet!

Don't equate the situations to prove a point. Try again.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Don't equate the situations to prove a point. Try again.

Nah - we didn't trust him. We didn't actually need much proof to mistrust him due to a number of reasons, namely:
a) Washington *seemed* scummy on the surface but he wasn't actually scum
b) Turncoat fucked him over
c) WE ELECTED HIM. People don't want to place too much power into one man, ever. Unless they are fucking Mafia.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Nah - we didn't trust him. We didn't actually need much proof to mistrust him due to a number of reasons, namely:
a) Washington *seemed* scummy on the surface but he wasn't actually scum
b) Turncoat fucked him over
c) WE ELECTED HIM. People don't want to place too much power into one man, ever. Unless they are fucking Mafia.

Note to self. Bookmarking post #3498, I want to continue this tomorrow. Right now my head feels as though I banged it against the wall all day long 24/7

[George Bush]

Nah - we didn't trust him. We didn't actually need much proof to mistrust him due to a number of reasons, namely:
a) Washington *seemed* scummy on the surface but he wasn't actually scum
b) Turncoat fucked him over
c) WE ELECTED HIM. People don't want to place too much power into one man, ever. Unless they are fucking Mafia.

We elected him because he lied big time. The situations won't be the same. We're never going to elect a mayor and lynch them again. A scum saying their town and trying to thread a pro game of lynching towns is different then someone saying they're neutral to get elected.

The situations are different, so your conclusion is invalid.