S-FM 200: Mafia Wars II

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

If you say "please, Gyrlander" I may consider re reading your slot and not hoping you're dead by tomorrow.

Please, Gyrlander -- start taking this game seriously and stop trolling. I get that you like to do this in the mod / Skype chat, but it's very frustrating in FMs given the amount of time people put into these games. You develop a reputation very quickly in FM games and I don't think "guy who doesn't take games seriously and is a major detriment to the Town, even when confirmed Town" is what you want, or I really hope not at least...

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

I'm a shit player that smells like shit and also my mouth is full of shit

FTFY

[SexyDucK]

@sexy, are you referring to your last will post? because you said yourself that you didn't prune it for irrelevant info. if you weren't confirmed, I'd understand why you'd do that, but you're just being lazy. (unless I missed it somewhere else)

Just ignore the joker information.... the rest is accurate to my belief, but you probably wont care for it since it has you linked to BCD.

-DucK

[SexyDucK]

The best counter to tunneling vs me is talking about sweets, chocolates, Disneyland, virtual reality, Tumblr or cute animals.

[SexyDucK]

FTFY

cant refute the evidence, go to trolling which you have been admonishing others for. Nice.

[Rurouni Kenshin]

unknown was scummy as fuck, as detailed by me. but you seem to ignore posts of quality. BCD's read on Kovath is pretty damn good and you're IGNORING it.

Unknow was not in fact scummy as fuck since he flipped Town. I said this before and I will prolly have to say it again. The only, ONLY reason why I voted unknown is because I thought there were 2 solid cases on Unknown from 2 separate people, one of them being a strong Town read. NKing LI was so stupid because if they NK someone like G4 or POD then NKA is shit.

BTW might want to point out now that I hid behind Ducks last night, cuz if they target us for NK then the dumbest town in the game gets killed instead of us. If Doc gets killed today, we will be hiding behind GF. BTW I think its about time the GF reveals. Any objections?

[Voss]

Just ignore the joker information.... the rest is accurate to my belief, but you probably wont care for it since it has you linked to BCD.

-DucK

i'll read it, but I think BCD had me as town then for the same reason LI had me as town.

[Rurouni Kenshin]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

This is proper sig material.

He actually thinks he's on my level.

Don't do that it just makes you look scummy as fuck.


Zing!

[SexyDucK]

i'll read it, but I think BCD had me as town then for the same reason LI had me as town.

Do you think you were productive/towny enough yesterday to warrant a "VOSS HAS A FREE PASS HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE PRESSURED OR LOOKED AT"?

-DucK

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Unknow was not in fact scummy as fuck since he flipped Town. I said this before and I will prolly have to say it again. The only, ONLY reason why I voted unknown is because I thought there were 2 solid cases on Unknown from 2 separate people, one of them being a strong Town read. NKing LI was so stupid because if they NK someone like G4 or POD then NKA is shit.

BTW might want to point out now that I hid behind Ducks last night, cuz if they target us for NK then the dumbest town in the game gets killed instead of us. If Doc gets killed today, we will be hiding behind GF. BTW I think its about time the GF reveals. Any objections?

You his behind a confirmed town who you called stupid yet sheeped today? What?

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Unknow was not in fact scummy as fuck since he flipped Town. I said this before and I will prolly have to say it again. The only, ONLY reason why I voted unknown is because I thought there were 2 solid cases on Unknown from 2 separate people, one of them being a strong Town read. NKing LI was so stupid because if they NK someone like G4 or POD then NKA is shit.

BTW might want to point out now that I hid behind Ducks last night, cuz if they target us for NK then the dumbest town in the game gets killed instead of us. If Doc gets killed today, we will be hiding behind GF. BTW I think its about time the GF reveals. Any objections?

"This person flipped town, therefore they were not 'scummy as fuck'"

Want to elaborate more on that NKA? I'm curious.

Why the fuck would you want the Godfather to be unhealable when we already know who he is...?

Fucking lol.

[Voss]

Unknow was not in fact scummy as fuck since he flipped Town. I said this before and I will prolly have to say it again. The only, ONLY reason why I voted unknown is because I thought there were 2 solid cases on Unknown from 2 separate people, one of them being a strong Town read. NKing LI was so stupid because if they NK someone like G4 or POD then NKA is shit.

BTW might want to point out now that I hid behind Ducks last night, cuz if they target us for NK then the dumbest town in the game gets killed instead of us. If Doc gets killed today, we will be hiding behind GF. BTW I think its about time the GF reveals. Any objections?

First, you can totally be 'scummy as fuck' and be town. So you think my case against Unknown was solid? Why did you say earlier that I voted Unknown because he voted me first? (or was that fatalisis)

But more importantly... WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU HIDE BEHIND CONFIRMED TOWN. YOU HIDE BEHIND THE PERSON YOU BELIEVE IS SCUMMIEST. THAT'S REALLY REALLY BAD.

[SexyDucK]

You his behind a confirmed town who you called stupid yet sheeped today? What?

He didn't hide behind me. He is trying to find gullible mafia.

[Voss]

Do you think you were productive/towny enough yesterday to warrant a "VOSS HAS A FREE PASS HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE PRESSURED OR LOOKED AT"?

-DucK

no, but I think you're overstating BCD's unwillingness to lynch me. It was about the same level that I had towards not wanting to lynch Shifty.

[Rurouni Kenshin]

You his behind a confirmed town who you called stupid yet sheeped today? What?

I am not sheeping anyone. I vote with my own reasons thank you verey much. have you heard me say "Duck great job, I'm totally sheeping you this game because you are just so good at playing confirmed town."

[Voss]

Unknow was not in fact scummy as fuck since he flipped Town. I said this before and I will prolly have to say it again. The only, ONLY reason why I voted unknown is because I thought there were 2 solid cases on Unknown from 2 separate people, one of them being a strong Town read. NKing LI was so stupid because if they NK someone like G4 or POD then NKA is shit.

BTW might want to point out now that I hid behind Ducks last night, cuz if they target us for NK then the dumbest town in the game gets killed instead of us. If Doc gets killed today, we will be hiding behind GF. BTW I think its about time the GF reveals. Any objections?

yeah, it was you.

-vote Rurouni Kenshin

[SexyDucK]

no, but I think you're overstating BCD's unwillingness to lynch me. It was about the same level that I had towards not wanting to lynch Shifty.

I don't believe I am.

BCD townread unknown all game, then he switches to a vote on you, and he is instantly read as scum shortly after. Pressuring someone in your position is always good, there was plenty of time, and to completely ignore your slot after she gets on me about saying we are not lynching sino that day is just odd.

[SexyDucK]

Nope, I can't stand that when I think about re reading the thread 146 pages appear. I'm taking a rest.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

First, you can totally be 'scummy as fuck' and be town. So you think my case against Unknown was solid? Why did you say earlier that I voted Unknown because he voted me first? (or was that fatalisis)

But more importantly... WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU HIDE BEHIND CONFIRMED TOWN. YOU HIDE BEHIND THE PERSON YOU BELIEVE IS SCUMMIEST. THAT'S REALLY REALLY BAD.

This is worth highlight again -- two extremely scummy plays by Kenshin:

1. In MANY games, very scummy players end up being Town because they are not playing well. This is literally a massive part of site meta -- SP in Music, the entire Town in FF7, SJ in Normalcy, etc.

2. Why would a Beguiler hide behind confirmed Town? The entire point of Beguiler is to redirect bad effects to who you think is scummy.

You understand why we're suspicious of RK now? Insane shit like this.

[Voss]

Unknow was not in fact scummy as fuck since he flipped Town. I said this before and I will prolly have to say it again. The only, ONLY reason why I voted unknown is because I thought there were 2 solid cases on Unknown from 2 separate people, one of them being a strong Town read.

I am not sheeping anyone. I vote with my own reasons thank you verey much.

??????????

[SexyDucK]

This is worth highlight again -- two extremely scummy plays by Kenshin:

1. In MANY games, very scummy players end up being Town because they are not playing well. This is literally a massive part of site meta -- SP in Music, the entire Town in FF7, SJ in Normalcy, etc.

2. Why would a Beguiler hide behind confirmed Town? The entire point of Beguiler is to redirect bad effects to who you think is scummy.

You understand why we're suspicious of RK now? Insane shit like this.

No this is why I tunnel on you. Because you post shit like this. You finally revealed you thought I was actually a beguiler, but said I was not to trick mafia. Now RK is doing the SAME THING YOU DID, but faking that he hid behind me to bait a mafia to attack him so they "hit the godfather", and you are magically oblivious to it?

[Voss]

I don't believe I am.

BCD townread unknown all game, then he switches to a vote on you, and he is instantly read as scum shortly after. Pressuring someone in your position is always good, there was plenty of time, and to completely ignore your slot after she gets on me about saying we are not lynching sino that day is just odd.

I don't quite remember the order, and I dont particularly want to... fine I'll go reread that section as well as your case against BCD.

[Rurouni Kenshin]

First, you can totally be 'scummy as fuck' and be town. So you think my case against Unknown was solid? Why did you say earlier that I voted Unknown because he voted me first? (or was that fatalisis)

But more importantly... WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU HIDE BEHIND CONFIRMED TOWN. YOU HIDE BEHIND THE PERSON YOU BELIEVE IS SCUMMIEST. THAT'S REALLY REALLY BAD.

yeah well there is this other detail where FBI can recruit people, but I suppose that is not really important at all is it? Hmm... IDK we talked it out very thoroughly last night but I'm having second thoughts about it now. @MattZed , can we change who we hid behind last night to Voss instead? Cuz he's looking pretty Shifty right now and I think if Kovath gets targeted it could be pretty Fatalis.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

No this is why I tunnel on you. Because you post shit like this. You finally revealed you thought I was actually a beguiler, but said I was not to trick mafia. Now RK is doing the SAME THING YOU DID, but faking that he hid behind me to bait a mafia to attack him so they "hit the godfather", and you are magically oblivious to it?

Pretty sure rururururu isn't faking this.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Pretty sure rururururu isn't faking this.

At least faking the claim that is

[Voss]

Hey @SexyDucK , you mind splitting the work? can you find where BCD townreads unknown, and I'll find the section where he TRs me?

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

yeah well there is this other detail where FBI can recruit people, but I suppose that is not really important at all is it? Hmm... IDK we talked it out very thoroughly last night but I'm having second thoughts about it now. @MattZed , can we change who we hid behind last night to Voss instead? Cuz he's looking pretty Shifty right now and I think if Kovath gets targeted it could be pretty Fatalis.

What the actual fuck?

[Voss]

yeah well there is this other detail where FBI can recruit people, but I suppose that is not really important at all is it? Hmm... IDK we talked it out very thoroughly last night but I'm having second thoughts about it now. @MattZed , can we change who we hid behind last night to Voss instead? Cuz he's looking pretty Shifty right now and I think if Kovath gets targeted it could be pretty Fatalis.

what the fuck is this code

[SexyDucK]

Please, Gyrlander -- start taking this game seriously and stop trolling. I get that you like to do this in the mod / Skype chat, but it's very frustrating in FMs given the amount of time people put into these games. You develop a reputation very quickly in FM games and I don't think "guy who doesn't take games seriously and is a major detriment to the Town, even when confirmed Town" is what you want, or I really hope not at least...

Duck believes you're scum. I do believe you're scum. What's wrong with it? I'm not becoming a bad reputated player. See that 1 bar on my Gyrlander Account? IT IS VERY CUTE AND SHOWS I'M LEGIT. Congratulations, you made weird sensations appear through my body, I may be interested in talking with you for a while, cutie.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

yeah well there is this other detail where FBI can recruit people, but I suppose that is not really important at all is it? Hmm... IDK we talked it out very thoroughly last night but I'm having second thoughts about it now. @MattZed , can we change who we hid behind last night to Voss instead? Cuz he's looking pretty Shifty right now and I think if Kovath gets targeted it could be pretty Fatalis.

Acting insane isn't a townread, buddy.

[Rurouni Kenshin]

Just giving my scum reads, problem?

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

We say rurururu is scum, he votes us

Voss places vote on rurururu, they.... retroactively try to.... go back in time to hide behind Voss for being "shifty"

OMGUS after OMGUS

[SexyDucK]

Hey @SexyDucK , you mind splitting the work? can you find where BCD townreads unknown, and I'll find the section where he TRs me?

Its in my long post. She merely says things like he is dumb town, has him in all of her read lists, and then flips on him saying he is something like irritable. I don't think she ever went indepth on him, did you read these parts of my post, if not I can repost the relevant parts?

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Hey @SexyDucK , you mind splitting the work? can you find where BCD townreads unknown, and I'll find the section where he TRs me?

I'll help you out.

I called him bad town.

Near EOD, he gets 5 votes on him.

He claims Drug Dealer. This makes me doubt him, for obvious reasons.

I don't counter-claim because I figured I could lynch him without having to reveal on Day 1.

Kovath counter-claims, thus meaning that one of them has to be scum. I say this in the chat...that one of them is 100% Luciano.

Several people claim they were town-reading Kovath and there wasn't much time left when Kovath claimed.

Therefore I figured that Unknown was the best option because his flip would be telling of Kovath's alignment, and there was no way we were lynching outside of the DD claims. That's why we called it an "informational" lynch.

[Rurouni Kenshin]

We say rurururu is scum, he votes us

Voss places vote on rurururu, they.... retroactively try to.... go back in time to hide behind Voss for being "shifty"

OMGUS after OMGUS

Actually I read Voss scummy because his case is shit.

[Voss]

Actually I read Voss scummy because his case is shit.

what was the second good case against Unknown then?

Also, I read your thing Sexy, but i must have missed where BCD tried to actively push against me. I only saw a mention of it when you related it to Sino, but I think i've been more active than Sino, which gives him more credibility in that sense.

[Voss]

@SexyDucK , please don't change your avatar.

[SexyDucK]

@SexyDucK , please don't change your avatar.

Okey.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

He didn't hide behind me. He is trying to find gullible mafia.

I think I finally understand what you are trying to say with this, but I don't think that was what Rururururu is trying to day at all.

They asked GF to reveal which would make them unhealable by doctor. Why would they do this if that was their intention? Why would they get night attacked with the intention of hitting GF? Why not just hit GF if they can't be healed?

You are giving them too much credit to think they are thinking of some stupid "clever" plan to bait gullible mafia.

[Voss]

I'll help you out.

I called him bad town.

Near EOD, he gets 5 votes on him.

He claims Drug Dealer. This makes me doubt him, for obvious reasons.

I don't counter-claim because I figured I could lynch him without having to reveal on Day 1.

Kovath counter-claims, thus meaning that one of them has to be scum. I say this in the chat...that one of them is 100% Luciano.

Several people claim they were town-reading Kovath and there wasn't much time left when Kovath claimed.

Therefore I figured that Unknown was the best option because his flip would be telling of Kovath's alignment, and there was no way we were lynching outside of the DD claims. That's why we called it an "informational" lynch.

yeah I saw the part on which you ACTUALLY said you thought he was either bad town or scum, and weren't sure, so you put him in the first one.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Vote Count

Borderline Crazy Dealers (1 [L-5]):
Fatalis
Kovath (2 [L-4]):
Borderline Crazy Dealers, Rurouni Kenshin
Shifty (2 [L-4]):
G4slight, God Emperor Trudeau
Rurouni Kenshin (1 [L-5]):
Voss

[SexyDucK]

Post 164
[QUOTE]As for Unknown, I'm kind of stumped with him. Either he's bad town and he's actively trying to work on his scum-hunting and play, or he's taking the game more seriously because he is scum and overcompensating.

I think the first explanation is more plausible at the moment; I'm not sure how likely scum!Unknown would get into an argument with Duck when he knows how much attention that'll draw to him.

Post 229

Town: Duck, Unknown, possibly PTB (I sense retarded logic being used, but that's not necessarily scummy)
Null: Voss (seems to be genuinely confused/ lost so SLIGHTLY town here), Kovath, Gaslight
Scum: Shifty, Mesk
Post 290

Post 894 – you is referring to RK

Well currently I'm under the impression that I'm playing Mafia on Hard Mode.

I've just looked at Kovath's vote and yes, it's #5 - a fucking RVS one - that he hasn't moved despite apparently having legitimate scum reads. This is something I cannot explain from a town mindset. He points out holes in Unknown's logic but does not vote. He claims to scum-read Shifty, but does not vote. In 800 posts. That's rather damning, actually.

However, if I accept that Shifty and Kovath are 2/3 scum, then that means that - at most - only one of my other scum leans/ reads (you, GET, maybe Unknown and Sino if I ignore meta, maybe Duck) can be scum. And that assumes that all of my other town reads are correct.

I'm having a hard time here. Care to chip in with any pertinent thoughts on this post?

She states that there is at most one between Rk and Unknown. If she was linking kovath/rk Unknown should never have been her vote.

Post 898

I recall you saying that their read list made you think they are town. What about it gave you that impression?

My hydra is conflicted on Unknown/ Sino. I, Calix, think both are town but I can't claim that the others agree with this. Yes, I read the Sandbox game.

Post 1014 – Read on unknown

Town.

I said this earlier. I'm getting a little annoyed at how often I have to keep repeating myself here.

Post 1097 – calix’s reads.

Town: Gaslight, Logically Insane, Fatalis
Town lean: Duck, Voss, Sino, Unknown, POD
Scum lean: Kenshin, GET
Scum: Kovath, Shifty

Post 1280

Kovath, Shifty are the trains I support at the moment.

If I have momentum, I can support a Quick lynch (heh heh) as well.

Those will be the only three players we will vote for today.

- Calix

No Unknown on the train she supported.

Post 1285

Oh my GOD, what even.

If you're not willing to lynch "useful" players early then you're just giving them more time to defend themselves as scum. This god-awful reasoning is partly why I have never been lynched as scum.

I still feel that Shifty is the likeliest candidate for FBI Agent. But I am more confident in Kovath/ Quick as a team than I am in that read.

- Calix

Still no.


Post 2527 – starts to flip on unknown after pressuring voss

So are Voss/ PTB your main scum-reads then? It would be good if you worked on those before EOD.

Speaking of reads, Kovath said that he was going to work on his before he "got lynched" but stopped doing that the moment people moved away from him.

Post 2541 2558

Unknown is being way too tetchy and keeps dismissing everyone's scum-reads on him as having no weight whatsoever so I'm not too sure here.

I will say there is probably a 1000 post gap, which I hope you are able to solve, I got was doing this for several hours, If I missed something substantial it is between posts 1285-2527.

-DucK

[SexyDucK]

I'll help you out.

I called him bad town.

Near EOD, he gets 5 votes on him.

He claims Drug Dealer. This makes me doubt him, for obvious reasons.

I don't counter-claim because I figured I could lynch him without having to reveal on Day 1.

Kovath counter-claims, thus meaning that one of them has to be scum. I say this in the chat...that one of them is 100% Luciano.

Several people claim they were town-reading Kovath and there wasn't much time left when Kovath claimed.

Therefore I figured that Unknown was the best option because his flip would be telling of Kovath's alignment, and there was no way we were lynching outside of the DD claims. That's why we called it an "informational" lynch.

No, you said we are only lynching "one of my three people today" you dont let people do other things. You had a hissy fit when we voted voss. You read kovath as the luciano drugdealer, you push the lynch on him, no exceptions. This does not fly, you do not conform to what they want, you are too stubborn and egotistical, moreso than me.

-DucK

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

[QUOTEUnknown is being way too tetchy and keeps dismissing everyone's scum-reads on him as having no weight whatsoever so I'm not too sure here.[/QUOTE]

CONTEXT: After Unknown had claimed.

You can see that we immediately bring up 2 points against him.

[SexyDucK]

[QUOTEUnknown is being way too tetchy and keeps dismissing everyone's scum-reads on him as having no weight whatsoever so I'm not too sure here.

CONTEXT: After Unknown had claimed.

You can see that we immediately bring up 2 points against him.[/QUOTE]

I have called you scum, and you dismiss it as having no weight, what is the difference?

Hint:Unknown as town.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

No, you said we are only lynching "one of my three people today" you dont let people do other things. You had a hissy fit when we voted voss. You read kovath as the luciano drugdealer, you push the lynch on him, no exceptions. This does not fly, you do not conform to what they want, you are too stubborn and egotistical, moreso than me.

-DucK

Right, because with as many posts and claims that happened, we're not allowed to go from "uncertain" on a slot (unknown) to lynching it. Better to tunnel AMIRITE

[Voss]

if you guys are going to use quotes, and notice someone fucked up, at least fix it in your post. thanks

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Duck is so arrogant that he thinks I'm scum because I don't act the same way every game. Just look at that post where he claims he knows my personality.

That is ALL it boils down to.

He is so desperate to prove that he "knows" me that he'll go to all this effort to paint my actions as scummy.

Because I'm Calix.

Nothing else. It's ALL based on meta and because of how I act around him OUTSIDE OF THE GAME.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

I have called you scum, and you dismiss it as having no weight, what is the difference?

Hint:Unknown as town.

Are you suggesting that you calling us scum is the dame as having a role that Unknown claimed?

[Rurouni Kenshin]

@SexyDucK , Use

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