S-FM 250 Spirits II

[The Ultimate Despair]

I think Ozy might've been right about blinkskater

Actually, I have changed my mind about that specific topic few pages ago.
Remember MM in the Witch game with his "possible slop post #4" or something like that?
I remember I first thought back then too that it's not a Townie thing to do, but then I changed my mind in that game later. I tried to remember why it was the case and I remember now - it's because for scum it would have been more beneficial to not post it for a better chance killing a TPR than to post it. You get the idea, right?
So, anyway. That game had very few TPRs so it was a different setup. How does it change this matter? Well - because in this game it's neither good for Town nor for Scum to publically call out possible TPR slips. So really - the post I pressured blink for - it means nothing. Only Trapper wouldn't care about posting possible TPR slips publically, but I don't think that Blink is trapper.
And the most reason why I did briefly scumread blink was not the post itself but the several posts thereafter. And that reason was nullified when I changed my original opinions and expectations about him.
So yeah. I don't scumread blink. I actually townread him.

@Marshmallow Marshall , Some post here, I don't remember which it was, made me think that you and me see a different meaning to the word scumread. I don't remember which post it was but it made me think that you see the word as the activity to post reasons to think someone might be scum, while I see that word as having the opinion that someone is scum. Did I misunderstood something?

Also, guys! I will go AFK for ~10 hours now. Try to not speedlynch me, ok?

[Gyrlander]

-vote The Ultimate Despair

[Ganelon]

-vote The Ultimate Despair

Fake vote

[Gyrlander]

Is it just me or does The Ultimate Despair give a weird feeling like... Idk, from my point of view it seems that they're contributing and actually pro-town but something doesn't feel okey about the slot, like... too towny to be town? Or maybe that it is too forced? Still, I don't have any obvious proof of this so you should ignore, just wanted to say that I'm a little scared about that ***** (Archon) @Cryptonic you fuck.

[Ganelon]

Is it just me or does The Ultimate Despair give a weird feeling like... Idk, from my point of view it seems that they're contributing and actually pro-town but something doesn't feel okey about the slot, like... too towny to be town? Or maybe that it is too forced? Still, I don't have any obvious proof of this so you should ignore, just wanted to say that I'm a little scared about that ***** (Archon) @Cryptonic you fuck.

I agree that this might be the case

[naz]

Is it just me or does The Ultimate Despair give a weird feeling like... Idk, from my point of view it seems that they're contributing and actually pro-town but something doesn't feel okey about the slot, like... too towny to be town? Or maybe that it is too forced? Still, I don't have any obvious proof of this so you should ignore, just wanted to say that I'm a little scared about that ***** (Archon) @Cryptonic you fuck.

To me, its very fake town. He is trying to be active and he thinks he is contributing but its all shallow. And the fact that he makes long, boring wallposts is to distract us. Like when he quoted all the afks without actually saying anything about the quotes...how is any of that helpful?

[Ganelon]

Is it just me or does The Ultimate Despair give a weird feeling like... Idk, from my point of view it seems that they're contributing and actually pro-town but something doesn't feel okey about the slot, like... too towny to be town? Or maybe that it is too forced? Still, I don't have any obvious proof of this so you should ignore, just wanted to say that I'm a little scared about that ***** (Archon) @Cryptonic you fuck.

When I have more time, I will tell you my thoughts and why I think Ozy is either Town or Trapper...

[Efekannn02]

Efe and SCV, the two people that hammer at L1 are already on him. Anyone that hammers before EoD is obviously fucked tomorrow.

its hammer time

[unvote]The Ultimate Despair[/vote]

[Ganelon]

This is interesting. BEFORE reaching this post on my reading - I felt like Naz is a Trapper. Specifically Trapper. Then suddenly reading this post where MM has the same read? There might be something there.

Ok I can't find the post that I found important ROFL, but I think you guys may have something on Ozy, let's go ahead and do this for now

-vote The Ultimate Despair

New rule, if I think there's a possibility of discounting you as Scum you must claim your role if I ask you to do so. So claim a role. Now.

[Efekannn02]

i forgot the code time to vote a innocent person as a unvote from tud

-vote naz

[Ganelon]

i forgot the code time to vote a innocent person as a unvote from tud

-vote naz

Try to vote up a guy called 'unvote'. That is how you unvote.

[Ganelon]

@The Ultimate Despair , because I like you I will give you a chance to prove you are town to me.

[Ganelon]

-vote unvote

[The Ultimate Despair]

Wow... i come back from the dentist and I see this shit...let me read through it..

[Ganelon]

Wow... i come back from the dentist and I see this shit...let me read through it..

Noz!!!! Come o'er here and let's discuss. What are your reads?

[blinkskater]

Noz!!!! Come o'er here and let's discuss. What are your reads?

Do you guys think the trapper will visit a heavy target on n1? Because i do, he may want to use his MM abillity on someone he thinks will get the most visits

[Ganelon]

Do you guys think the trapper will visit a heavy target on n1? Because i do, he may want to use his MM abillity on someone he thinks will get the most visits

What do you mean by... oh my god! This makes sense. Lol This is why we should restrict the TPR visits. I think we should do the following:

Everyone state who would you be visiting. After everyone has posted their visits we'll do a summary and see who gets to visit whom in the Hypothetical All-TPR world.

[blinkskater]

@Distorted players who have a night action and leave there house dont get poisioned if the said trapper visits them right?

[blinkskater]

What do you mean by... oh my god! This makes sense. Lol This is why we should restrict the TPR visits. I think we should do the following:

Everyone state who would you be visiting. After everyone has posted their visits we'll do a summary and see who gets to visit whom in the Hypothetical All-TPR world.

So your asking ppl to say whod they visit so the trapper eill have a list? Of juicy targets, i wish i had known that before...which guy started suggesting players say whom they would visit because that could be a possible scum read for me as trapper i can look later im atwork atm

[Ganelon]

So your asking ppl to say whod they visit so the trapper eill have a list? Of juicy targets, i wish i had known that before...which guy started suggesting players say whom they would visit because that could be a possible scum read for me as trapper i can look later im atwork atm

I did :P If anything I'm asking people who'd they visit just so not everyone visits the same person. And no I'm not dumb enough to do that as trapper, if anything I think my idea holds water - we'll just do a recoup after everyone's claimed and we'll decide who visits whom in the Hypothetical All - TPR world... And I just realized something...

Roleclaiming, till the Trapper is dead, is not a good idea even as Citizen, because if one were to claim Citizen that would give MM at least one likely kill, and that kill would either be the Citizen himself or a Doctor who was unlucky enough to have visited the Citizen

[Ganelon]

@The Ultimate Despair , hurry up and defend yourselves guys, you're looking extremely trapper-y or Agent-ey as of this moment

[blinkskater]

What does this actually solve if its all hypothetical... Thats seems like it can generate scenarios in where scum can paint/deter the towns actions

[blinkskater]

What does this actually solve if its all hypothetical... Thats seems like it can generate scenarios in where scum can paint/deter the towns actions

I guess it can also be seen as confusing for the trapper and the mafias actions in the same light hmm

[The Ultimate Despair]

I 100% disagree on how ozy is playing D1. I would have preferred to take arguments at which we could help in and help town in them. I told him to chill out and he seems to have chilled a bit. We are not a trapper or Agent. We are a shtizen

[Scvmurderer]

Efe and SCV, the two people that hammer at L1 are already on him. Anyone that hammers before EoD is obviously fucked tomorrow.

Oh my god your right. I want to hammer.

-vote unvote

[Scvmurderer]

I 100% disagree on how ozy is playing D1. I would have preferred to take arguments at which we could help in and help town in them. I told him to chill out and he seems to have chilled a bit. We are not a trapper or Agent. We are a shtizen

*cough* bullshit cit *cough*

[Scvmurderer]

I did :P If anything I'm asking people who'd they visit just so not everyone visits the same person. And no I'm not dumb enough to do that as trapper, if anything I think my idea holds water - we'll just do a recoup after everyone's claimed and we'll decide who visits whom in the Hypothetical All - TPR world... And I just realized something...

Roleclaiming, till the Trapper is dead, is not a good idea even as Citizen, because if one were to claim Citizen that would give MM at least one likely kill, and that kill would either be the Citizen himself or a Doctor who was unlucky enough to have visited the Citizen

Numbertwo also pushed the idea of every1 telling who they're going to go to. Confirmed the trapper is @Numbertwo or @Magoroth

[Ganelon]

I 100% disagree on how ozy is playing D1. I would have preferred to take arguments at which we could help in and help town in them. I told him to chill out and he seems to have chilled a bit. We are not a trapper or Agent. We are a shtizen

Ok... let's go off this lead. for now. I suggest we focus on someone else for now... that someone being Gyrlander who fake voted Ozy.

-vote Gyrlander

[Scvmurderer]

@The Ultimate Despair , hurry up and defend yourselves guys, you're looking extremely trapper-y or Agent-ey as of this moment

Also change your god damn after you or distorted. I can't tell you apart at a glance and it's annoying.

[Scvmurderer]

Also change your god damn after you or distorted. I can't tell you apart at a glance and it's annoying.

Avatar*

[Ganelon]

Numbertwo also pushed the idea of every1 telling who they're going to go to. Confirmed the trapper is @Numbertwo or @Magoroth

You do realize that the trapper can guess who people would be visiting anyway, right? By doing this, we're establishing guidelines on who should visit whom, so less people die per night.

For example, let's say that 10 people say that if were doctors, they would visit 1, 2, ... 10. Let's assume 2 or 3 of these people would each be visiting the same person. If so they should all decide on someone to visit so that they don't all end up visiting the same person

[Scvmurderer]

I 100% disagree on how ozy is playing D1. I would have preferred to take arguments at which we could help in and help town in them. I told him to chill out and he seems to have chilled a bit. We are not a trapper or Agent. We are a shtizen

Clearly ozy is the better half of this duo with his shitposting. Ima say the redhead is ozy and the blackhaired girl is noz in that avatar.

[blinkskater]

Dont't forget about me i like to hammer at L1 temember that time i hammered you at L1

[Scvmurderer]

You do realize that the trapper can guess who people would be visiting anyway, right? By doing this, we're establishing guidelines on who should visit whom, so less people die per night.

For example, let's say that 10 people say that if were doctors, they would visit 1, 2, ... 10. Let's assume 2 or 3 of these people would each be visiting the same person. If so they should all decide on someone to visit so that they don't all end up visiting the same person

I ain't telling u who I'm killing gtfo of here.

[Ganelon]

Dont't forget about me i like to hammer at L1 temember that time i hammered you at L1

Who you talking about? lol

[blinkskater]

I ain't telling u who I'm killing gtfo of here.

If i were hunter i would not shoot ozzy for fear of being posioned

[blinkskater]

Who you talking about? lol

Oh my bad that was suppises to quote scvs post

[blinkskater]

I ain't telling u who I'm killing gtfo of here.

Scv with a gun again oh fuck?

[naz]

Oh my god your right. I want to hammer.

-vote unvote

Lol i love u. You make FM fun♡

[blinkskater]

Scv with a gun again oh fuck?

Actually i recant the oh fuck part of this statement if you hadnt have given efe those guns in the smiths it wodnt have confirmed him as scum to me so well played

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Good Morning Everyone

-vote The Ultimate Despair

Youre Annoying To The Point Of Being Cringy You Deserve This Vote

@Marshmallow Marshall
1.I Was Town That Game Not Scum
2.He Was Right Im Truly The Biggest Threat To Everyone
3.Murky Is A Easy Hero To Get A MVP With Atleast You Had Fun
Im Using A Basic Attack + Tank Build lol (Murky With 6k HP At Level 20)
My Old Main Was The Lost Vikings lol

Good morning guys! Lol I was surprised to see Efe mention anyone :P I said ICED was scum, not you. Also we should play some heroes together ^^

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Actually, I have changed my mind about that specific topic few pages ago.
Remember MM in the Witch game with his "possible slop post #4" or something like that?
I remember I first thought back then too that it's not a Townie thing to do, but then I changed my mind in that game later. I tried to remember why it was the case and I remember now - it's because for scum it would have been more beneficial to not post it for a better chance killing a TPR than to post it. You get the idea, right?
So, anyway. That game had very few TPRs so it was a different setup. How does it change this matter? Well - because in this game it's neither good for Town nor for Scum to publically call out possible TPR slips. So really - the post I pressured blink for - it means nothing. Only Trapper wouldn't care about posting possible TPR slips publically, but I don't think that Blink is trapper.
And the most reason why I did briefly scumread blink was not the post itself but the several posts thereafter. And that reason was nullified when I changed my original opinions and expectations about him.
So yeah. I don't scumread blink. I actually townread him.

@Marshmallow Marshall , Some post here, I don't remember which it was, made me think that you and me see a different meaning to the word scumread. I don't remember which post it was but it made me think that you see the word as the activity to post reasons to think someone might be scum, while I see that word as having the opinion that someone is scum. Did I misunderstood something?

Also, guys! I will go AFK for ~10 hours now. Try to not speedlynch me, ok?

Hm. You're 100% right about the slip thing,

-unvote

your post is townish af. Gotta read through now. Also it's slip not slop. I just bookmark it for myself incase I'd forget it. And I townread blink too.

I have probably misused the word then. That's the definition of scum hunting that I gave. To "scum read" someone is to think someone is scum. Can be strong read or slight read. Sorry for confusion.


Unvoting you for now... but still could be scum very much. I feel something is not okay with this slot.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@NumberTwo has replaced @Unknown1234 - apparently unknown never signed... lol oops

Will update on D1 table as well

LOL I was so much tempted to PM him to get his ass in the game but wasn't sure it was allowed... he was in HotS for all night yesterday ^^

[Marshmallow Marshall]

This is interesting. BEFORE reaching this post on my reading - I felt like Naz is a Trapper. Specifically Trapper. Then suddenly reading this post where MM has the same read? There might be something there.

Actually, this gives you a lot of town points. Not because you think the same as me, but because a scum wouldn't say that obviously "Hey, I thought that too before even reading the post!" It's just strange and not scum-ish at all. We might have to push this theory further.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Actually, this gives you a lot of town points. Not because you think the same as me, but because a scum wouldn't say that obviously "Hey, I thought that too before even reading the post!" It's just strange and not scum-ish at all. We might have to push this theory further.

What I got since I stopped reading for the night about Naz: Seems to not be caring about the good of the Town, tries to confuse the Town more than it is (or was) already, is very hostile at everyone. I don't think a Mafia would do that, for the sake of his team and for the sake of planning after without looking like having something planned. BUT as Trapper... it's somewhat a perfect cover.

[Ganelon]

Actually, this gives you a lot of town points. Not because you think the same as me, but because a scum wouldn't say that obviously "Hey, I thought that too before even reading the post!" It's just strange and not scum-ish at all. We might have to push this theory further.

MM, I don't think you'd ever call a fellow scum 100% town, so I'm tempted to town-read Ozy for this post because personally I also town read him, I'm only pressuring him because everyone else is... I don't think he's scum because I have a theory which I however will not mention here. I believe Ozy is town, just as you do.

[Ganelon]

I think you'd've pushed for Ozy's Lynch if you were scum so I'm town reading you right now @Marshmallow Marshall

[Ganelon]

@Distorted !!!
crocodile dundee > you

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I read MM as Town with like 90% certainty. And I read Blink as Town with like 70% certainty, though I want to see him being more active regards helping town.

But I feel like there are some clues that might indicate a possible MM+Blink scum team. I do not personally believe in that, but it's worth pointing out anyways just in case: (#1 and #4 can be probably removed)

Spoiler : 1 :

MM might be protecting blink here? I personally believe he is just very sure in his blink=town read, however the possibility remains. This post is questionable to me because MM knows his own inability to read Blink and Distorted, yet he is so completely sure of Blink here that he even protects Blink from pressure?

Spoiler : 2 :

Either he is scum or he is indirectly trying to provoke me (note his exxageration about me only insulting Blink and me not reasoning or whatever) or he is Townie/Scum who is trying to make me get off Blink (Which I am btw). In either case - he REALLY wants me to get off Blink. I personally do do believe that it is because he is Townie and thinks that Blink is townie too, however there is always the possibility of Blink+MM scum team

Spoiler : 3 :

SCV is addressing Blink to which MM replies with "our minds". Probably means nothing, but worth pointing out possible slip.

Spoiler : 4 :

Ok, I admit. This one is even far fetched for me. But it just gave a slight "scum talking to each other" vibe so I wanted to list it in here.

Spoiler : 5 :

Since he only used the word "insults" in reference to me - this post is directly protecting Blink from me?

1: Nope I'm no longer unable to read them ^^ only Distorted makes me rush a bit lol, but I still can read him correctly with a correct method.

2: Hm true that lol. I kinda buddied with you at the start too, so we're all scum teams nah seriously that massive assault at blink to get him more and more tilted was going to cost us D1. Had to stop, glad it stopped.

3: I might've contaminated you with my slipmania XD I meant THE TOWN'S minds might change. Plus wtf, this was in answer to the post saying to lynch blink... As scumteam, I would tell blink our minds would change about him getting lynched? Yeah, we'd say "Ok it's all good, kill the mafia member!"
Umm... not really. lol. But + scumpoints at you again because this is scumhunting, I'm getting vibes similar to when I saw Magoroth on the last game atm. Still uneasy about your style, you managed to fool me for all D1 in black flag.

4: Mhhmmmm a signal for him to post more? Maybe, maybe not... I feel like it's too obvious to be it. And blink is not a trash tier player, wouldn't be so obvious. I'm defending him again

5: No, not really... More like, Naz came on and starting insulting everyone, Scv came on and started saying fuck you fuck you and got right into the game SO FAST (gotta read through his posts, I don't get why exactly) and you + blink insulting eachother. The game was literally 50% insults.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

MM, I don't think you'd ever call a fellow scum 100% town, so I'm tempted to town-read Ozy for this post because personally I also town read him, I'm only pressuring him because everyone else is... I don't think he's scum because I have a theory which I however will not mention here. I believe Ozy is town, just as you do.

You damn xD be careful though, I'm having a permanent doubt on him since black flag nightless game. He's too good

Also this post is implying I'm scum =) reasons? Or did I misread?