S-FM 298: Third Line Butterfly

[Light_Yagami]

What's more interesting to me is that dW changed to you after I pressured him to stop tunneling even though he said you were scum because he thought yagami was scum in relation to you

Wouldnt That Make It A You Me Viacom Team In That Instance? Based On How That Kinda Played Out Im Leaning More Towards A deathworlds , Ganelon Thus Far Based On Their Actions Over All.. Like I Said Im Waiting On That Iso.

[deathworlds]

Wouldnt That Make It A You Me Viacom Team In That Instance? Based On How That Kinda Played Out Im Leaning More Towards A deathworlds , Ganelon Thus Far Based On Their Actions Over All.. Like I Said Im Waiting On That Iso.

Here's an idea, while I'm doing an ISO on you, you do an ISO on me or Galeon, or one of your other hidden scumreads that you haven't shared with us >.>

[DS.]

Wouldnt That Make It A You Me Viacom Team In That Instance? Based On How That Kinda Played Out Im Leaning More Towards A deathworlds , Ganelon Thus Far Based On Their Actions Over All.. Like I Said Im Waiting On That Iso.

Interestingly enough almost no one has chosen to comment on my alignment this game.

[deathworlds]

Here's an idea, while I'm doing an ISO on you, you do an ISO on me or Galeon, or one of your other hidden scumreads that you haven't shared with us >.>

That way you could at least appear productive instead of strictly reactionary and defensive

[DS.]

Here's an idea, while I'm doing an ISO on you, you do an ISO on me or Galeon, or one of your other hidden scumreads that you haven't shared with us >.>

You would finish your iso faster if you stopped hitting refresh here

[Light_Yagami]

That way you could at least appear productive instead of strictly reactionary and defensive

Im Waiting On Yours Then Ill Make Mine On Both You And Ganelon.. Maybe.. Other PPL Can Help Cant Hunt Scum Alone Am I Right. Gotta Watch Everyone See What They Are Doing.. Try To Figure Out What They Mean When They Arent Even Really Saiyan It..

[DS.]

The two of you should just stop interacting for a bit so the thread doesn't devolve into nothing but dw vs Yagami

[deathworlds]

You would finish your iso faster if you stopped hitting refresh here

As I said, I'm not gonna half ass it.
But to be perfectly honest, I'm not used to doing it this way, I used to just multiquote everything the person said instead of using this function. So I gotta figure out how to format it

[deathworlds]

Do people just like, copy/paste the search results without any of the formatting?

Jesus how do y'all live with this search function? I was hoping that would be something changed before I came back

[Light_Yagami]

Do people just like, copy/paste the search results without any of the formatting?

Jesus how do y'all live with this search function? I was hoping that would be something changed before I came back

I Keep A Tab Opened Here Or On The Person Im ISOing And Click Every Single Thing So I Get The Memo Tag. Then I Copy Pate In Note Pad When I ISO A Person. So i Can Copy And Paste And Drop It Like A Bomb.

[deathworlds]

Huh, well excuse me while I do that with two pages of fluff

[Light_Yagami]

Huh, well excuse me while I do that with two pages of fluff

What Is This Fluff? Is It What We Use To Make Rice Crispys With> Or Am I Thinking Marshmallows?

[Light_Yagami]

@Revenant & @renegade What Do You Think About All This Id Like Other Opinions On The Matter At Hand..

[deathworlds]

Btw if you don't start working on literally anything I will immediately put my vote back on you after my ISO

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Tbh, Varcron whiteknighting Light as scum vs town would make sense if Light is town, but I have doubts; after reading Light's ISO, I realized he was not doing much more or much less than what he usually does: post a ton of either contentless or crappy posts logic-wise (e.g. saying that something "is interesting" and never following up on it, meaningless defenses of "ISO ME OR SHUT UP", etc.). It all comes down to intent behind his posts, and intent is hard to detect when there are so many logical failures in his posts. The skip vote is something unusual for him, though, and I'm happy with my vote atm.

On which reply of mine did you want to wait on, @Light_Yagami ? Couldn't find any question addressed to me in the ISO.

[DS.]

I Keep A Tab Opened Here Or On The Person Im ISOing And Click Every Single Thing So I Get The Memo Tag. Then I Copy Pate In Note Pad When I ISO A Person. So i Can Copy And Paste And Drop It Like A Bomb.

Yagami, who do you think is scum?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Interestingly enough almost no one has chosen to comment on my alignment this game.

Interesting indeed. Checking your ISO because I remember literally none of your posts, none have stuck in my head. Perhaps I have a bad memory... perhaps you said nothing of value, too.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I capitalized it just to irk you honestly lmfao. Surprisingly you don't care about a big D tho? *badumtish*

Also ~vibes~

you're voting the player who posted content in the most sustained manner for vibes? There is literally everything to say about him but vibes lol, he has expressed a lot of theoretical thoughts, he gave reads, reasonings... This is weak. Under the null line you go.

[deathworlds]

Jesus the more I get from him the more I realize how much of it is just, fluff

[Marshmallow Marshall]

And Just Like That Ganelon Is Confirmed Scum In My Book..

@Light_Yagami if he is confirmed scum in your book:

1: EXPLAIN WHY
2: Vote him

Please try to think beyond your usual game.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Scum team could potentially be DW, Ganelon, and Cucho with that little alliance they are in. It kind of makes sense seeing how eager y'all seem for a lynch.

Why would town not be eager for a lynch all the time in such a setup, exactly? Also, why did you not put me in that list yet put Banana in? He hasn't really pushed at people so hard, iirc, while I've been advocating for a D1 lynch since the start of the game (and since years in my meta).

Remind me, why do you defend Light so hard, exactly? What did he do to convince you he's town? I know his meta, and I don't see it atm. All he did this game was NAI at best.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

would they play their hand this early? seems too dumb to me

I agree with this post to some extent, but not completely; experienced players could very well decide to open-wolf. I just really don't think it's the case here because DWs, Banana and Ganelon are all relatively towny to different extents.

This post gives me bad vibes, though. Renegade seems too confident for a newbie, stating things as if they were obvious. Potential TMI, +scumpoints

[Ganelon]

MM, I wanted to scumread you, go away

[Varcron]

Why would town not be eager for a lynch all the time in such a setup, exactly? Also, why did you not put me in that list yet put Banana in? He hasn't really pushed at people so hard, iirc, while I've been advocating for a D1 lynch since the start of the game (and since years in my meta).

Remind me, why do you defend Light so hard, exactly? What did he do to convince you he's town? I know his meta, and I don't see it atm. All he did this game was NAI at best.

I am not saying town shouldn't be eager for a lynch, I am saying that town is being too eager and not thinking about the possibility of a mislynch. We have nearly a full day left to decide who to lynch.

I was defending Light as in my opinion he was being double teamed by both Ganelon and DW, which looked fairly scummy in my eyes.

[Varcron]

I agree with this post to some extent, but not completely; experienced players could very well decide to open-wolf. I just really don't think it's the case here because DWs, Banana and Ganelon are all relatively towny to different extents.

This post gives me bad vibes, though. Renegade seems too confident for a newbie, stating things as if they were obvious. Potential TMI, +scumpoints

Renegade has always played confidently, that's why he is fairly successful in the mod. His town playstyle there is directly translating to here, unless he has changed drastically from there to here in the past day.

[Varcron]

Confidence in a new guy isn't necessarily a bad thing, said so by either you or Stealth in my first game.

[Ganelon]

@Varcron when Light was pushed there was an incredible amount of resistance to his lynch, i’d hardly call that “getting teamed on”. rather, it would seem to be that there’s too many people defending him for no real reason. and I’m saying this as someone who now thinks he may be town.

[Ganelon]

Confidence in a new guy isn't necessarily a bad thing, said so by either you or Stealth in my first game.

I agree but I mostly (saw) some apathy coming from that slot. It’s not too bad right now so I don’t want to lynch him.

[deathworlds]

Here is literally every post Light has made as of 40ish minutes ago.

I'm going to go over it, organize posts into substantial vs not, add contextual quotes where needed, add commentary, and my overall conclusion in the end.

Spoiler : ISO :

Well Here I Am

Dont Phones Have Auto-Correct

Quite The Active Bunch We Have Here.

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I Received No Feed Back About A Lover

I Do Find It Interesting Though How Marshmallow Marshall & BananaCucho Are Both Voting The Same Person Though..

Is There An Escort Role In The Set Up? I Dont Recall.

Oh Nice

Not Sure Just Yet

-vote Skip

Well If The Nurse Role Blocked The Lover Wouldnt The Mafia Have Had A Kill?

Because, Nobody Is Dead And I Figure It Would Give Our Justice Role Another Night To Find Scum. IDK Just Seems Like A Reasonable Conclusion To Me.

Why Arent You?

I Know What Free Speech And Choice Of Actions Means..

Alright Welp Ill Be Back Later. And With This Post I Meet The Minimum Post Count For The Day.

I Dont Remember Really Playing With You In The Mod However In The Mod The Reasons I Used Skip Vote There Was If I Was Blackmailed And Or If I Was Jailor. Me Skipping In The FM Game Isnt All That Out Of Character For Me. Also, Your Attempts To Cast Doubt On My Slot Will Fall On Deaf Ears. Seeing As How I Have Already Given A Very Valid Reason To Wanna Skip.. However, As Per Usual U Are Likely Just Skimming The Thread And Not Even Reading And Checking Vote Counts.

Town Power Role.

In What Universe Am I Scum Right Now?

Who?

Lets Think About That For A Second Before We Go Lynching Me.

I Unlike You Am Unwilling To Loose PPL On A Whim.

Who Says Im Being Passive Aggressive Also No Out Side Interference Boy. That Question Alone Should Have You Ejected From The Game..

Ganelon At This Junction Would Be My Top Lynch Priority.

No Replaced. Is More Accurate. Based On A Question Requesting Out Side Assistance.

Of Course You Would Lynch Me First.

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Please Enlighten Me On How Im The Scummiest ATM?

I Mean Ive Already Basically Gave Everyone My Role

Now Ill Wait For You To Figure Out How And Where That Happened..

The Jig Is Up

So Since Nothing Else Relevant Is Going On Now Ill Be Back Later..

Your Not Looking Hard Enough

I Have A Hunch That MM Is Scum This Game.

Damn Them Emojis For Not Doing As Requested.

And Just Like That Ganelon Is Confirmed Scum In My Book..

Because He Said Lynch For The Lynch God And Always Be Hungry For A Lynch Only Scum Would Be That Hungry For A Lynch..

Meet The Parents..

I Make Total Sense This Game And The Reason You Arent Following What Im Saiyan.. Is Because Ur Scum And Or Dont Hold What I Say In High Regard.

Well If He Likes Big D Then Do I Have News For Him..

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Correct

Snackrifice

Whats A Meme?

I Wonder If Our Justice Had A Night Action Last Night.. If He Did I Wonder What Information He/She Gained.

I Agree That Would Be Very Valuable Information..

Im Not TPR Hunting. If I Was Ud Know It.

Am I Though? Show Me Evidence Of That..

Plan Better Next Time

This Is True I Plum Didnt even Think About That.

But Im Pretty Sure Everyone Would Be Interested In Justice Feedback. I Feel Holding Back Any Intel Hinders Town Wouldnt You Agree.

Anyway I Am Very Curious About That Feed Back TBH It Could Solve A Couple Of Mysteries

I Agree With That..

Does Anyone Have Anything Else To Add? That Would Be Relevant..

Yep.. Day 2 Is The Best Day.. This Day Is Full Of BS And Subversion As Always.

What If I Told You I Wasnt Scum Would You Believe It?

Is That A Game Or Something? Where That Name Comes From?

What If I Told You I Do That As Town And When Im Scum/Mafia I Only Hunt The Neutral If There Is One In The Game.

I Mean I Guess But Honestly You Really The Only One That Has Ever Called Me Out On It.. I Kinda Just Go With The Flow And Do My Own Thing In These Games.

Dont Worry I Cant Be Manipulated.

So Im Appear To Be Town? Then Why Would You Say Im Scum?

Oh So You Think Im Scum?

Psh...


You Wish I Was Scum....

Would U Wanna Thunderdome Me?

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See Someone That Knows How I Play..

How About U ISO Me Quick And Draw A New Conclusion. And Really Think About What Ive Said How Ive Said It And The Context I Say It In. And Dont Forget To Read The Quotes When I Say Something It Adds Context.

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Im Actually Not All That Good At Manipulating My Meta.

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Again Thats An Typical Thing I Do As Town Ill Sit On Skip Day And Not Vote All Day, Day 1 Because Of Lack Or Evidence Against Anyone.

Please I Never Feel Pressured

I Think Galeon Is Scum.

Lynch Me And You Will Regret It

Of This Im 100% Sure On.

Yes But From My Many Games That Ive Played Here Any Player That Says Lynch For The Lynch God And So On Is Scum And On The Flip Or End Of Game They Do End Up Being Scum About 78% Of The Time.

I Do Not Believe I Stuttered.

No Im Scum Reading Galeon

Welp U Can Have Your Opinion On That.

Ill Wait For MMs Input

Ummm I Have No Comment ATM..

And 2 Be Fair You Arent Off The Hook Just Yet..

I Feel He Is The One That Is Actually TPR Hunting Looking For Something Or Someone.

Also He Stated A Lot Of Lies About My Play Style Early On.. Things He Knows Are Lies..

Let Me Put It This Way He Got My Role Out Of Me.

Who Says I Was Encouraging The Justice To Reveal. I Was Just Interested In What Feed Back Said Slot Might Have Received. Im Also Under The Impression That At This Point Justice Had Gotten A Same Alignment Check On Who Ever The PPL Were That He/She Checked. Otherwise There Would Have Been A Breaking News Article By Now.

Thats Why I Told You To Iso Me And Read Context.

This One Is Funny

U Can Just Read It.. Here Ill Give You A Hint. Its Something Along The Lines That I Said Now Really Think About That. In Response To What Galeon Had Said About Me.

Okay Click My Name It Will Bring You To My Profile Here.. Once There Click Next To All Where It Will Show Only My Posts.

But But Im Not Scum.

Is It Obvious Because You Are Scum Or Because Of Something I Did Or Said?

I Wouldnt Be So Trusting Of Banana If Ur Cautious Of MM

U Know Damn Good And Well If I Was Mayor Id Wait Till Day 3 Or 4 To Do So.

How Would That Help 3 Mafia Would Obviously Claim Citizen Or Try And Counter A TPR Claim Thats A Dumb Idea IMO. And Quite The Scummy One I Might Add.

Why Are U Suddenly Inclined To Believe I Am Town? When Earlier You Were Saiyan I Was Scum?

Hope Its Not 2 Proper.

What Does OP Mean Over Powered? Operation? And So On..

Yeah It Is Interesting Indeed. Something That Might Need To Be Looked Into

How About I Decided To Just Not Vote At All.. Since There Really Isnt Enough Information To Work With And Or I Just Cant Decide ATM..

My Question Was Lets Say Lover Role Did Try To Target However Was Role Blocked By Nurse. The Nurse Would In That Instance Know Who The Lover Was.

Since We Now Have Confirmation That Mafia Couldnt Attack.

Oh Im Scum Hunting You Just Havent Noticed Yet.

https://media.tenor.com/images/ba336...58ba/tenor.gif

Where Is That ISO Man?

Fixed It..

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Still Waiting On That ISO Man..

Wouldnt That Make It A You Me Viacom Team In That Instance? Based On How That Kinda Played Out Im Leaning More Towards A deathworlds , Ganelon Thus Far Based On Their Actions Over All.. Like I Said Im Waiting On That Iso.

Im Waiting On Yours Then Ill Make Mine On Both You And Ganelon.. Maybe.. Other PPL Can Help Cant Hunt Scum Alone Am I Right. Gotta Watch Everyone See What They Are Doing.. Try To Figure Out What They Mean When They Arent Even Really Saiyan It..

I Keep A Tab Opened Here Or On The Person Im ISOing And Click Every Single Thing So I Get The Memo Tag. Then I Copy Pate In Note Pad When I ISO A Person. So i Can Copy And Paste And Drop It Like A Bomb.

[Varcron]

@Varcron when Light was pushed there was an incredible amount of resistance to his lynch, i’d hardly call that “getting teamed on”. rather, it would seem to be that there’s too many people defending him for no real reason. and I’m saying this as someone who now thinks he may be town.

I agree, a few people were defending him for little to no actual reason, which I also didn't particularly like per say (however none of those people were really vocal until later on).

[Marshmallow Marshall]

You've played a dangerous game pushing for a lynch on Yagami for most of the game so far

Yagami as a town is a very very powerful asset, as is MM (also why I think MM could be scum, he never is this inactive in a game) taking him away would hinder the town a fair bit. You could also potentially be pushing a scum buddy (heartbreaker) so that you can get a free lynch on a decent townie early on as well as your night kill as maf. (3 deaths one night)

What the actual hell is this? Yagami, a very very powerful asset? Not to be mean, but give me ONE SINGLE GAME in which he was a powerful asset, and I'll say publicly the Dark Lord is merely a myth. As for the read on me, ??? out of nowhere, I've given more thoughts and more content than most people in this game, including yourself.

As for the Heartbreaker line, it makes no sense: the loved target would have claimed by now, and it should 100 % be assumed that the Heartbreaker did not act last night, since assuming that a townie would play this badly is basically going into conspiracy theories.

Honestly, this post + the weird perspective post of Varcron that is a potential slip makes him rank #1 in my scum list.

-vote Varcron

I also think Light - Varcron is a TvS interaction, so this actually gives indirect town points to Light, although he's still very scummy.
About the Light-Varcron interactions, it's very unlikely that they are scum together; it's just not worth whiteknighting a scum!Light like this from scum!Varcron's point of view. It's also very unlikely that they are both Town, because they are both individually scummy.

[deathworlds]

ISO's are hard

[Renegade]

@Revenant & @renegade What Do You Think About All This Id Like Other Opinions On The Matter At Hand..

Frankly I don't know where all this yigama hate is coming from, seems more than scum searching to me. DeathWorlds is pushing very hard.

[Varcron]

What the actual hell is this? Yagami, a very very powerful asset? Not to be mean, but give me ONE SINGLE GAME in which he was a powerful asset, and I'll say publicly the Dark Lord is merely a myth. As for the read on me, ??? out of nowhere, I've given more thoughts and more content than most people in this game, including yourself.

As for the Heartbreaker line, it makes no sense: the loved target would have claimed by now, and it should 100 % be assumed that the Heartbreaker did not act last night, since assuming that a townie would play this badly is basically going into conspiracy theories.

Honestly, this post + the weird perspective post of Varcron that is a potential slip makes him rank #1 in my scum list.

-vote Varcron

I also think Light - Varcron is a TvS interaction, so this actually gives indirect town points to Light, although he's still very scummy.
About the Light-Varcron interactions, it's very unlikely that they are scum together; it's just not worth whiteknighting a scum!Light like this from scum!Varcron's point of view. It's also very unlikely that they are both Town, because they are both individually scummy.

More powerful of an asset than me apparently, except that'll be seen when I'm lynched and flipped as town. My perspectives for multiple of my claims over the past few games have not been noticed because they are different than the majority, the thing that irritates me the most is this:

out of the calls made, it always appears that the more experienced are believed more.

Try looking at it through my eyes, it's actually fairly black and white once you get past the theoretical stuff.

[Varcron]

We had this same problem with two people being confirmed "really scummy" in our last ladder game. It turned out the two people 100% town read by absolutely EVERYONE were our two scum.

[Varcron]

We had this same problem with two people being confirmed "really scummy" in our last ladder game. It turned out the two people 100% town read by absolutely EVERYONE were our two scum.

Meaning that no one is confirmed, I have a hard time believing in this entire confirmed town without really being confirmed town stuff that you guys like doing. Until justice has confirmed someone, or we are 500% sure that they are town, there is no such thing as town.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

MM, I wanted to scumread you, go away

Lol you'll have all the time to do so soon, I probably won't stay that long. I must eat :P
SNAILSSS

I am not saying town shouldn't be eager for a lynch, I am saying that town is being too eager and not thinking about the possibility of a mislynch. We have nearly a full day left to decide who to lynch.

I was defending Light as in my opinion he was being double teamed by both Ganelon and DW, which looked fairly scummy in my eyes.

This is plurality. We're not gonna hammer early for no reason. It doesn't mean that we can't push at people strongly to make them feel the pressure and to generate meaningful discussion.
You believe Banana to be excluded from that group, now? Why? Also, Light has commited the heinous crime of not being towny to an horrible extent. I don't see how you can blame anyone for pushing him.

Renegade has always played confidently, that's why he is fairly successful in the mod. His town playstyle there is directly translating to here, unless he has changed drastically from there to here in the past day.

Confidence in a new guy isn't necessarily a bad thing, said so by either you or Stealth in my first game.

There is a difference between a confident townie and a TMI scum. Of course, I can't be 100 % sure on this, but Ren's post looked like the latter. No explainations or thought processes, which is what I would expect from a confident town newbie. Just a quick conclusion.

[deathworlds]

oh before I go refill on the brain juice to prep for the iso, didn't Varcron say that Ganelon and I were townie reads earlier?

[Varcron]

oh before I go refill on the brain juice to prep for the iso, didn't Varcron say that Ganelon and I were townie reads earlier?

I said that my opinion on you changed a wee bit, I still think there is a chance of both of you being scum mates; but with how both of you have shifted it doesn't really look like it 100% anymore.

[Varcron]

Lol you'll have all the time to do so soon, I probably won't stay that long. I must eat :P
SNAILSSS

This is plurality. We're not gonna hammer early for no reason. It doesn't mean that we can't push at people strongly to make them feel the pressure and to generate meaningful discussion.
You believe Banana to be excluded from that group, now? Why? Also, Light has commited the heinous crime of not being towny to an horrible extent. I don't see how you can blame anyone for pushing him.




There is a difference between a confident townie and a TMI scum. Of course, I can't be 100 % sure on this, but Ren's post looked like the latter. No explainations or thought processes, which is what I would expect from a confident town newbie. Just a quick conclusion.

You do have a point with the highlighted section here, I hadn't thought about that until you mentioned it. I still think we can reletively safely assume he is town for now, I also think that we can assume that you are not scum for the time being along with Ganelon.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

More powerful of an asset than me apparently, except that'll be seen when I'm lynched and flipped as town. My perspectives for multiple of my claims over the past few games have not been noticed because they are different than the majority, the thing that irritates me the most is this:

out of the calls made, it always appears that the more experienced are believed more.

Try looking at it through my eyes, it's actually fairly black and white once you get past the theoretical stuff.

Light has absolutely no ability whatsoever to use ethos, and that's one of his main issues in every single game... so no, this is just plain wrong. As for you, you have been quite good in your previous games, so no, not really.
Of course, more experienced people tend to make better cases (at least better at convincing others that they're right), and those will be listened to more. However, this does not relate in any way to what I was talking about; you completely changed the topic. You didn't even address the Heartbreaker part

We had this same problem with two people being confirmed "really scummy" in our last ladder game. It turned out the two people 100% town read by absolutely EVERYONE were our two scum.

False. Pringles only got infected as a game-ending move. Only Punchy really tricked us all, and such a thing is very rare, which is why we all congratulated him strongly.

Meaning that no one is confirmed, I have a hard time believing in this entire confirmed town without really being confirmed town stuff that you guys like doing. Until justice has confirmed someone, or we are 500% sure that they are town, there is no such thing as town.

Right, noone is confirmed, but towncoring remains a very valid strategy used on many communities for many games and that can be more efficient than scum hunting at times. Nobody is confirmed scum either atm, and yet we will still scum hunt and lynch our suspects, even though they aren't 100 % confirmed. It's very rare to have confirmations.

But once again, this is COMPLETELY UNRELATED, and you have avoided my questions. You are most likely scum in my eyes, and should probably be lynched at EoD.

[Ganelon]

btw, I will put the post where you stated that Yagami is a valuable asset in my signature.
There aren’t many facts in the game of mafia, but it’s a FACT that Yagami was not, and is not a valuable asset to town.
i don’t mean this in a mean (heh) way to you Varcron but it’s just... lol

[Marshmallow Marshall]

btw, I will put the post where you stated that Yagami is a valuable asset in my signature.
There aren’t many facts in the game of mafia, but it’s a FACT that Yagami was not, and is not a valuable asset to town.
i don’t mean this in a mean (heh) way to you Varcron but it’s just... lol

^ lol

[Varcron]

btw, I will put the post where you stated that Yagami is a valuable asset in my signature.
There aren’t many facts in the game of mafia, but it’s a FACT that Yagami was not, and is not a valuable asset to town.
i don’t mean this in a mean (heh) way to you Varcron but it’s just... lol

I dunno, I personally see everyone as a fairly valuable asset no matter what. For all we know reads that he gave could be correct.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Frankly I don't know where all this yigama hate is coming from, seems more than scum searching to me. DeathWorlds is pushing very hard.

This post is GOOFY. Did you read Light's posts lol?? Not scumreading him is a thing, but saying that you don't see how someone could scumread him is another...

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I dunno, I personally see everyone as a fairly valuable asset no matter what. For all we know reads that he gave could be correct.

You said this.

Yagami as town is a very very powerful asset

You presented it as a general truth, and it's not one. Why are you turning it into a "in this game, he might have been right, who knows?", which is both changing your own narrative and saying words that mean almost nothing?

[Varcron]

You said this.


You presented it as a general truth, and it's not one. Why are you turning it into a "in this game, he might have been right, who knows?", which is both changing your own narrative and saying words that mean almost nothing?

I wouldn't say that I was saying words that mean almost nothing, you can look at Revenant for that.

[Varcron]

I wouldn't say that I was saying words that mean almost nothing, you can look at Revenant for that.

Oh lol, I bolded the wrong area of that quote.

[BananaCucho]

That train on Vaccuum formed way too quickly for my liking. L-2 wat

3 of my strongest townreads are on it. Might have to re evaluate already hmm

[Varcron]

That train on Vaccuum formed way too quickly for my liking. L-2 wat

3 of my strongest townreads are on it. Might have to re evaluate already hmm

If you have anything new to say let us know, for now i'm going to be quiet and re read some stuff.