S-FM: Clown town

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@Marshmallow Marshall
I was bussed last night, does this affect your feedback?
If damus was also bussed, would that make me "not mafia" and him mafia? Lol

Are you trying to get me modkilled?

[Ganelon]

MM, you are fucking lying. Stop it.

[Kenny]

That is a borderline claim. Stop right there. I have independent reasons extracted from the thread to townread Cryptonic

What are those independent reasons? If you extracted them you might as well quote and explain. Maybe I could then convince you that your interpretation of those actions is wrong then.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

MM, you are fucking lying. Stop it.

Could you AT LEAST make the effort of thinking about the possibilities?

[Cryptonic]

I was also bussed last night. And roleocked too

Hmm ok

[Cryptonic]

Are you trying to get me modkilled?

No im stating if a bussing could reverse uour results. If so, maybe you should relook at your shit
Friendly right back at ya

[Ganelon]

Cryotonic’s TPR claim is pure, as his reasons align with his posts. He could also be Mafia, but he pushed a lynch on someone whose play style pegs him as a Neutral (Damus). Mafia would never do that.
In fact I’m pretty sure 2/3 Mafia can be found in a sec

[Kenny]

Cryotonic’s TPR claim is pure, as his reasons align with his posts. He could also be Mafia, but he pushed a lynch on someone whose play style pegs him as a Neutral (Damus). Mafia would never do that.
In fact I’m pretty sure 2/3 Mafia can be found in a sec

Pure? I, and MM as well, stated many times that it isn't. With quotes and some explanation as well.
Mafia also pushes neutral reads all the time. They act scummy, gives them towncred, doesn't take much effort etc etc.

[Ganelon]

No, no Mafia would push a Neutral claim in this setup.

[Kenny]

No, no Mafia would push a Neutral claim in this setup.

And why? If I were mafia I would. Without a doubt.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

At this point I'm putting Light (Derpclean) and Kenny (Interactions with me and crypt) in my town core, along with myself obviously. Damus is a NON-MAFIA.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@Kenny PLEASE put your vote on Cryptonic instead of Damus.

[Cryptonic]

@Kenny PLEASE put your vote on Cryptonic instead of Damus.

Dont be dumb. If you really are town qith feedback, please step back and revisit your info cause youre pushing against towns wincon rn. Remember "think outside the box"

[Cryptonic]

Also im fairly certain that the Mafia has a Godfather role. Nah actually im 100% sure lol

[Marshmallow Marshall]

GUYS ANALYZE CRYPT'S LAST POSTS. THERE IS A SCUM SLIP IN THERE THAT I CANNOT POINT OUT MYSELF BUT ANALYZE THEMMMM

[Cryptonic]

-unvote

I will do this for now. With 2 players claiming damus is neutral, im led to believe that some extra information or nightchat existed last night. Architect type shit idk. Anyway, its worrisome when 2 players randomly claim the same thing about a player on the same day without any further explanation

[Kenny]

So we have Mag, who I don't scumread yet, say Crypt looks towny to them for no valid reasons whatsoever, and MM saying Damus is literally 100% not mafia, along with a softclaim.
If you don't mind, I'd then prefer going after Gyrlander.

-vote Gyrlander

[Ganelon]

call me when something interesting happens. right now there's nothing in the thread I'm interested in reading/seeing.

[Ganelon]

I have had absolutely no night feedback of any sort to suggest Damus is Neutral. it's a supposition.

[Kenny]

Im trying to lynch him 2 days in a row
I also may have tried to remove him from the game last night in some regards.

That is a lot of time for SvS bussing

@Marshmallow_Marshall is this where you think Crypt scumslipped?

[Cryptonic]

GUYS ANALYZE CRYPT'S LAST POSTS. THERE IS A SCUM SLIP IN THERE THAT I CANNOT POINT OUT MYSELF BUT ANALYZE THEMMMM

Its not a scum slip. If youre pointing this out, then you should see it for its town intended purposes.
I wonder if we are the same role sometimes tbh. But then you claimes to target damus last night, so you cant be. But shit i tried to target damus

[Ganelon]

I have plenty of valid reasons, just that I'm not stating them all yet. I also don't appreciate you scumpainting Gyrlander.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

So we have Mag, who I don't scumread yet, say Crypt looks towny to them for no valid reasons whatsoever, and MM saying Damus is literally 100% not mafia, along with a softclaim.
If you don't mind, I'd then prefer going after Gyrlander.

-vote Gyrlander

Btw. I think Mag is probably a misled townie. I think Cryptonic's scummate is between the two inactives, NoctiZ and Bahkieh.

[Cryptonic]

I have had absolutely no night feedback of any sort to suggest Damus is Neutral. it's a supposition.

Ok........

-vote Damus_Graves

Thank you for clarifying before leaving ♡

[Ganelon]

wait a sec, why the fuck did you claim you tried to have him removed from the game? I'm pretty sure you're not a killing role

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Its not a scum slip. If youre pointing this out, then you should see it for its town intended purposes.
I wonder if we are the same role sometimes tbh. But then you claimes to target damus last night, so you cant be. But shit i tried to target damus

Yes, ok this makes me think even harder that you have an inactive scummate

I think one scum died on D1 by the way. I don't know who, but it's probable. Not certain, though.

[Cryptonic]

Btw. I think Mag is probably a misled townie. I think Cryptonic's scummate is between the two inactives, NoctiZ and Bahkieh.

Ok im down to lynch both of those!!! Lets make something happen

[Kenny]

wait a sec, why the fuck did you claim you tried to have him removed from the game? I'm pretty sure you're not a killing role

Lol. Pretty sure? He hinted that before saying that? When?

[Ganelon]

no idea what makes you think I'm a misled townie so soon. If anything my defending someone in a setup where alignments are not revealed is not even scummy, it's just borderline open-wolfing. you are not town, MM. if you are, you need to reassess your reads/playstyle

[Cryptonic]

wait a sec, why the fuck did you claim you tried to have him removed from the game? I'm pretty sure you're not a killing role

Im a unicorn, i can do it all.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

no idea what makes you think I'm a misled townie so soon. If anything my defending someone in a setup where alignments are not revealed is not even scummy, it's just borderline open-wolfing. you are not town, MM. if you are, you need to reassess your reads/playstyle

Listen. I KNOW what I said I am 100% convinced of. You know me: I don't say that I am 100% sure of anything unless I know it's 100% true. I KNOW that Damus is not Mafia.

Seriously, can you just take a moment to think about what I said about any role being possibly from any alignment? Think harder. THINK THINK THINK

[Marshmallow Marshall]

no idea what makes you think I'm a misled townie so soon. If anything my defending someone in a setup where alignments are not revealed is not even scummy, it's just borderline open-wolfing. you are not town, MM. if you are, you need to reassess your reads/playstyle

Also you're mislead because 1: you think I'm scum 2: you think Crypt is town

[Ganelon]

MM, I find it insulting you think I haven't thought of your claim. I know 100% what you're claiming, that Damus isn't Mafia. no shit he's not Mafia, he's the fucking neutral

[Ganelon]

how any of that makes Crypt scum is beyond me.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

MM, I find it insulting you think I haven't thought of your claim. I know 100% what you're claiming, that Damus isn't Mafia. no shit he's not Mafia, he's the fucking neutral

It's not just that: it's ALSO that Crypt is scum. You're taking only one thing at a time instead of seeing things as a system

[Marshmallow Marshall]

how any of that makes Crypt scum is beyond me.

Who the fuck said any of that made Crypt scum? Crypt is still 100% scum though.

[Ganelon]

It's not just that: it's ALSO that Crypt is scum. You're taking only one thing at a time instead of seeing things as a system

in that case, you're full of shit

[Kenny]

how any of that makes Crypt scum is beyond me.

I think town Mag flip flops with reads and scum Mag flip flops with claims. So far you haven't provided any usable reads yet and instead gave us softclaims about Damus, Crypt and then your own role too.

[Ganelon]

no, nothing I have said today is indicative of my role, because I don't want to get modkilled. all the info I have is from the thread. this doesn't say anything about my role per-se.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

in that case, you're full of shit

And then you feel insulted when I say you didn't consider my claim.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I think town Mag flip flops with reads and scum Mag flip flops with claims. So far you haven't provided any usable reads yet and instead gave us softclaims about Damus, Crypt and then your own role too.

Mag only gave reads, nothing from his role.

[Kenny]

I have had absolutely no night feedback of any sort to suggest Damus is Neutral. it's a supposition.

no, nothing I have said today is indicative of my role, because I don't want to get modkilled. all the info I have is from the thread. this doesn't say anything about my role per-se.

??

[Ganelon]

MM is claiming if I understand correctly that he's a Sheriff-type role, and that he somehow checked Cryptonic AND Damus. that's utter bullshit

[Ganelon]

yes, that means that my night feedback - that of being bussed and roleblocked - does not give me any information, apart from the fact that there is a bus driver (town, mafia, evil or benign) and an escort (again, town, mafia, evil or benign).

[Kenny]

MM is claiming if I understand correctly that he's a Sheriff-type role, and that he somehow checked Cryptonic AND Damus. that's utter bullshit

I think MM is trying to say he's James Bond. That'd make sense at least. A sheriff-type claim on the other hand is bullshit, from your side and not his however.

[Ganelon]

alright. we've never discussed the issue of roles: if you're town and you have an anti-town role (such as Janitor, Framer, or Drug Dealer), do NOT use it.

[Ganelon]

I think MM is trying to say he's James Bond. That'd make sense at least. A sheriff-type claim on the other hand is bullshit, from your side and not his however.

the hell is James Bond? what's that supposed to mean?

[Kenny]

the hell is James Bond? what's that supposed to mean?

007. I just don't wanna outright be that obvious.

[Cryptonic]

Listen. I KNOW what I said I am 100% convinced of. You know me: I don't say that I am 100% sure of anything unless I know it's 100% true. I KNOW that Damus is not Mafia.

Seriously, can you just take a moment to think about what I said about any role being possibly from any alignment? Think harder. THINK THINK THINK

MM, i dont want to begin assuming your role at this point, because j think it coild be a number of things. If the bussing doesnt affect your feedback at all, maybe other things could affect your feedback?
Say youre a spy from sc2maf... Maybe a mafia-aligned town role wouldnt give you feedback.
Maybe a town-aligned mafia role would give you feedback.

Or ecen the mafiosos in sc2 maf. They grt to vote on who to target, and they may get sent for the kill. Maybe we should be considering roles like town-sided mafia roles?

Anyway i digress. Just... as you said... think outside the box

[Cryptonic]

Wow now that i think of it, a town-sided mafioso might be OP... without a godfather or mafia majority, town would control the mafia nk.. but i guess anything is possible in this setup.