M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

[SlaoI]

Grommor Classic after lynch scum tell #242

I agree this may well have been a scumtell. It seems to be encouraging the Marshall to keep lynching, and since we now know that the Mafia wasn't a target of any of the lynches, a scum would've been in favor of keeping the lynchtrain going on town (or scum of other factions.)

[Trine]

I agree this may well have been a scumtell. It seems to be encouraging the Marshall to keep lynching, and since we now know that the Mafia wasn't a target of any of the lynches, a scum would've been in favor of keeping the lynchtrain going on town (or scum of other factions.)

Wow I didn't even notice this but I'm glad you pointed it out.

[Sino]

I agree this may well have been a scumtell. It seems to be encouraging the Marshall to keep lynching, and since we now know that the Mafia wasn't a target of any of the lynches, a scum would've been in favor of keeping the lynchtrain going on town (or scum of other factions.)

And why didn't you point that out earlier?

[SlaoI]

Because I thought it was self-obvious. Apparently it wasn't.

-Slaol

[Sino]

Because I thought it was self-obvious. Apparently it wasn't.

-Slaol

Yet you saw me being the only one who answered that post, and not scumreading him off of it and didn't decide to say "hey guys, this might be scum indicative"?

[SlaoI]

Yet you saw me being the only one who answered that post, and not scumreading him off of it and didn't decide to say "hey guys, this might be scum indicative"?

As I alluded to in my first post, I spent most of Day 1 vomiting IRL, which is why I minimally participated and was unable to contribute.

[Sino]

@Grommor , why did you vanish right when we were talking about you, even ignoring the points made?

[yzb25]

Also, I could give a shit about a ladder.
@Stealthbomber16 , you clearly do not know me very well. I see you are among the more sensitive of the bunch, but regardless I am going to have fun in the way I deem fit at the time. I could honestly give a flying fuck if that enjoyment affects you negatively in any way. This game is starkly different from my other 2 because it is a troll game. There are no psychological tricks coming from me. Your psychoanalysis is some pseudoscientific trite bullshit that is so sterotypical of elitists to begin with. Anyways, we could talk on Skype if you'd like (obviously not about the game). I get along with mostly eveyone. It's hypocritical to think you know me.

I'd be happy to talk to you OOG. Despite what it may seem, I also tend to get on with most people too (as far as I'm aware ^^). It's nice to know people OOG.

[yzb25]

I don't interpret Slaol switching to the FB train as opportunistic. He explained his motives pretty succinctly. If he is scum, it doesn't seem possible to derive that from the (few) posts he's made.

Anyway - Honestly, I can't remember if claiming feedback is beneficial or not in the mod, in this situation. I'm pretty sure one should refrain from town feedbacks to confirm roles later, at least.

[yzb25]

I don't interpret Slaol switching to the FB train as opportunistic. He explained his motives pretty succinctly. If he is scum, it doesn't seem possible to derive that from the (few) posts he's made.

Anyway - Honestly, I can't remember if claiming feedback is beneficial or not in the mod, in this situation. I'm pretty sure one should refrain from town feedbacks to confirm roles later, at least.

Referring to Slaol.

[Voss]

I agree this may well have been a scumtell. It seems to be encouraging the Marshall to keep lynching, and since we now know that the Mafia wasn't a target of any of the lynches, a scum would've been in favor of keeping the lynchtrain going on town (or scum of other factions.)

lol i haven't read most of d1. this would make sense if i actually voted for anyone.

[yzb25]

Also, Sino, you seem to have confused me for Mesk in your readlist lol.

[Trine]

Also, Sino, you seem to have confused me for Mesk in your readlist lol.

Did I? Sorry I was compiling my reads in notepad as I went back through everyone's posts and interactions.

If you mean the aggression, I think I was referring to these posts:

Ugh, Alright seems pretty null. I'd rather we went with Sino or Fury.

Sino, you haven't commented on much aside from Fred. Mesk isn't taking up your time any more. Give more thoughts, or you'll be next.

[yzb25]

Did I? Sorry I was compiling my reads in notepad as I went back through everyone's posts and interactions.

If you mean the aggression, I think I was referring to these posts:

Ohh okay. You were only ever a null/scum read.

[Voss]

i dont really scumread slaoI and will go for the remainig slaol, namely slaol

-vote slaol

[SIaoI]

No one answered my question

[yzb25]

No one answered my question

It seems death descriptions have been turned off in Mattzed's save, so it's unlikely anyone will answer your question :P

[Trine]

I have a question. I know that Marshall can't be healed by Doc after revealing, but can Doc still prevent cult conversion?

[SlaoI]

I have a question. I know that Marshall can't be healed by Doc after revealing, but can Doc still prevent cult conversion?

I've never seen this come up. Probably a good question for the host.

Can Doctor prevent Marshall from becoming a cultist, assuming that option is enabled for the doctor in question?

[Trine]

I've never seen this come up. Probably a good question for the host.

Can Doctor prevent Marshall from becoming a cultist, assuming that option is enabled for the doctor in question?

Thanks It's weird playing without being able to just see what all options are enabled/disabled/etc.

[MattZed]

I've never seen this come up. Probably a good question for the host.

Can Doctor prevent Marshall from becoming a cultist, assuming that option is enabled for the doctor in question?

If a doctor has that option enabled, then yes.

[SlaoI]

Honestly, though, while I hate to throw shade on the confirmed town, it is a legit question. Especially since a doctor would most likely, even with that option on, not heal a Marshall because it's such an edge case.

Mostly something we should probably keep in mind for the future.

[Trine]

If a doctor has that option enabled, then yes.

We're not allowed to know what options are enabled? I mean... I get not knowing what roles are in play but this can make things extremely difficult. I imagine the person with that role would know at least.

Ugh I just hope our protective role, if there is one, is a Bodyguard

[Trine]

Just to be clear, it's not just the Doc/Cult thing I'm considering, since we don't even know if there is a doc or other cult, but things like how many times a vigi can shoot (if there is one) or how many group lynchings our Marshall can call? If there is a godfather, will he appear inno? Is he night immune? If there's an arsonist, will we know if we are doused? UGH SO MANY QUESTIONS.

[Fury]

I like what Sino has been posting today. Gut read town from today's posts. Haven't really read much especially from the past though, so I could be mistaken. I disagree with his read on yzb just for wanting a skip vote though. He barely pushed it (if I recall correctly).

[SlaoI]

IMO, The chance of there being no additional cult, as I stated earlier, is effectively zero just because it's just plain unfair to the Witch Doctor.

[Trine]

IMO, The chance of there being no additional cult, as I stated earlier, is effectively zero just because it's just plain unfair to the Witch Doctor.

I agree about fairness, but this being an all random april fools games, I'm not sure whether it's intended to be fair.

[Trine]

I like what Sino has been posting today. Gut read town from today's posts. Haven't really read much especially from the past though, so I could be mistaken. I disagree with his read on yzb just for wanting a skip vote though. He barely pushed it (if I recall correctly).

I don't think he pushed it necessarily, but he also didn't band wagon any of the mislynches we ended up having yesterday. This is just my initial read based on what I've seen and read from him so far. I would like to see more interaction from him, but then again, there are others who are far less helpful and either vote and disappear (like Unknown) or simply don't participate at all (ika).

[yzb25]

I agree about fairness, but this being an all random april fools games, I'm not sure whether it's intended to be fair.

Agreed. I used to make my cult-saves with WDs-only. Ruins the fun if they don't earn the power to convert :3

[yzb25]

I don't think he pushed it necessarily, but he also didn't band wagon any of the mislynches we ended up having yesterday. This is just my initial read based on what I've seen and read from him so far. I would like to see more interaction from him, but then again, there are others who are far less helpful and either vote and disappear (like Unknown) or simply don't participate at all (ika).

Also, it's quite a common scum strategy to sit on the right side of an issue but then do nothing to actually push your side. That way, they can be "in the right" without actually helping the right side to win.

It also absolved him from making any contributions day 1.

[Alright]

I'm back from a long day of work/school, will be catching up on posts now

[Fury]

Also, it's quite a common scum strategy to sit on the right side of an issue but then do nothing to actually push your side. That way, they can be "in the right" without actually helping the right side to win.

It also absolved him from making any contributions day 1.

Pretty much what I was getting at. Thanks for elaborating.

[Trine]

Also, it's quite a common scum strategy to sit on the right side of an issue but then do nothing to actually push your side. That way, they can be "in the right" without actually helping the right side to win.

It also absolved him from making any contributions day 1.

Good point. I'll take this into consideration. I'm still leaning towards voting Unknown right now but as I seem to be the only one, perhaps you can explain your thoughts behind voting FB?

I don't take much stock in Unknown's vote since he seems to just be sheeping along. But Fury, yzb, Trine and two slaoi's are voting him as well.

[Mesk514]

I don't take much stock in Unknown's vote since he seems to just be sheeping along. But Fury, yzb, Trine and two slaoi's are voting him as well.

i really hope this isn't the real sino...

yeah of course imma fucking sheep the fucking marshall, are you dumb as fuck?

follow the marshall, end this game and gimme back my account plz

[Mesk514]

i only look at this thread when im pinged or if i see my name on the side bar
so if you're gonna say im lurking, imma just tell you to kiss my ass

[Stealthbomber16]

Gonna be honest, I'm very pressed for time this week and my mind isn't focused on this game. Don't want to be tricked into doing something stupid so for the sake of the town I'm going to replace out into someone who will hopefully care about this game more.

[Grommor]

Alright lets see...

My thoughts on this set-up is as follows. This is not an Any Random set-up. The fact that we had both ML -and- Witch Doctor and in such a short span, makes me think this is a disguised Cult vs Town vs Mafia save. But it's April Fool's themed as to where we don't actually get to see the roles in play.

I didn't push for the skip because I didn't honestly think anyone would skip. I tried making a point of not lynching anymore for day 1. It would've been the same as if I just didn't vote at all. I was just hoping to deter a few people from voting as well.

I spent most of day 1 silent because I was trying to get a feeling for how you guys play. This is my first time playing FM so I was a little intimidated by the number of posts and level of arguments made. I'm getting the hang of it which is why I've been more active today.

Concerning the Slaols, they are all the same in my mind which makes it hard for me to give my opinion. One of them was nice enough to start typing in blue, but honestly, if we just lynched 3 of them yesterday I wouldnt mind. It's too much of a bother to see what Slaol posted what, so I try to keep a neutral stance in that.

Concerning FB, I am getting so many bad vibes from his posts. His attitude is not of one who wishes to cooperate. I mean sure, you have to suspect everyone, but when Marshall reveals and we try to band behind him, you -have- to be more cooperative.

Am I missing anything ? I'll call it a night soon, so I wanna share my thoughts before that.

[Trine]

i really hope this isn't the real sino...

yeah of course imma fucking sheep the fucking marshall, are you dumb as fuck?

follow the marshall, end this game and gimme back my account plz

My comment was based on the fact that you've popped up and voted and disappeared without a word the last three times. I get that you want to follow the confirmed town but this game is based around group deductions. We can't pin all our hopes on one player getting everything right without offering our own theories and reads, especially since we've already had two mislynches (I don't count PTB since he was a game ruiner).

The Marshall is a powerful role but without some considerable luck we can't depend on him winning the game for us, nor should we. Where's the fun in sitting here quietly and waiting to be told who to vote for? I mean if you agree with him that's one thing, but just because he's Marshall doesn't mean he'll always be 100% right. It's our job to help make sure he doesn't fuck up, overlook anything and to offer insights he might not consider so that he can make the best decision possible.

Sorry for the rant there, I've just seen too many games go to shit because the town sheeped along and followed a bad Marshall. Not saying you're bad Trine, just that we shouldn't expect you to do all the work!

[Mesk514]

My comment was based on the fact that you've popped up and voted and disappeared without a word the last three times. I get that you want to follow the confirmed town but this game is based around group deductions. We can't pin all our hopes on one player getting everything right without offering our own theories and reads, especially since we've already had two mislynches (I don't count PTB since he was a game ruiner).

The Marshall is a powerful role but without some considerable luck we can't depend on him winning the game for us, nor should we. Where's the fun in sitting here quietly and waiting to be told who to vote for? I mean if you agree with him that's one thing, but just because he's Marshall doesn't mean he'll always be 100% right. It's our job to help make sure he doesn't fuck up, overlook anything and to offer insights he might not consider so that he can make the best decision possible.

Sorry for the rant there, I've just seen too many games go to shit because the town sheeped along and followed a bad Marshall. Not saying you're bad Trine, just that we shouldn't expect you to do all the work!

fine, understandable

however as i said, i only check this thread if pinged or i see my name. this game doesnt count for shit, its for shits and giggles, april fools is over, time to move on to the mothers day themed game.

[SlaoI]

Going a bit more meta than I was previously, I suspect at least one of the Slaol people is scum, just to make it hard to lynch them even if they are obvious scum, because it'll be harder to tell which is which.

-Slaol

[Grommor]

Alright, I'm off. My vote still stands. I'll see you all later.

[Voss]

yeah, everyone should just vote for slaol.

[Trine]

yeah, everyone should just vote for slaol.

Which slaol?

[Voss]

the one i'm voting. the blue one doesn't seem thhaat scummy to me, another one claimed mason. this ones' as good as any.

[Trine]

the one i'm voting. the blue one doesn't seem thhaat scummy to me, another one claimed mason. this ones' as good as any.

Rather than 'as good as any' could you elaborate and why you've chosen him?

[Voss]

SlaoI - this one voted for FB. This one has not claimed mason.

SIaoI - this one has not claimed mason, but has said (pretty triggered they lynched ML day1)/how did witchdoc die.

SIaol - this one claimed mason. Said I was retard for lynching his boss (OH WAIT, you know who could have stopped that? <--THIS SIAOL had he been here. SHOCKING you have to actually PLAY the fucking game.) So sit on your fucking griaffe dick you worthless piece of shit.

Slaol - this slaol was here day 1 and DID NOT claim mason with fred. Was also active during ML lynch and said nothing. Has said nothing, and is just throwing his votes onto trains.

#2 was 'triggered,' discounting this one
#3 claimed mason
#1 is... the blue one I think, and i'm liking his/her posts...
so

#4 is the one i'm voting.

[Alright]

alright, I got some reading quite done, though i still don't understand how the last two voters decided to jump on my train and the lynches were b/c the marshall wanted to lynch ptb/alright; SP gave me a completely different read, but then again i admit i'm new in this part esp because the meta here is different and nobody on fms troll for a vet claim, which looked mostly scummy otherwise in my honest opinion.

however, fury pushed me purely out of anger and started being so critical even though i've been cooperative (yzb's post doesn't make here because i have been following marshall's thoughts/action) and at the start of game i am still up for lynching one of the slaols. the blue slaol is cooperating with us now though which makes me feel better. I also agree that there can't be just a witch doctor, there's definitely a cult backup so anyone of us can be scum right now honestly

unknown just moved higher on my scumlist, as well as grommor who hasn't been consistent with posts as well. i suppose this is already discussed and i don't think there's much a point in trying to answer every single post here and rather write my collective thoughts here

i am going through stealth/iced posts right now to get a full picture of both, but people who have been incredibly quiet look even more scummier here (grommor, non-blue slaol, unknown, ika) b/c of their activity/act

[SlaoI]

I'm out for a bit. Going to eat and deal with family and such. Day doesn't end tonight, so I should be good.

-The I guy

[Fury]

My memory may be faulty, but I believe this to be the first time that fire has actually scum hunted. Even earlier today he basically said he'd sheep the marshall's vote.

well, we will have to see what Trine thinks

You called me a sheep and you're too hesitant to give your own scum reads? Did you even do any scum hunting yesterday? No you just fucking followed the marshall and sheeped a vote.

Nice hypocrisy

(yzb's post doesn't make here because i have been following marshall's thoughts/action)

There he admits to sheeping. Almost subconsciously claiming absolution from guilt because he's been just following marshall (Sheeping).

[Fury]

you didn't have to vote for him y'know, mister sheep

And he accuses me of sheeping... Considering I pushed Iced nearly the whole day and repeatedly voiced my objections to the lynch, it's hilarious.