If I'm being honest I think you're being too sensitive about post signing.
-vote GodEmperorTrudeau
-vote God Emperor Trudeau
Making a post up now.
Liking Empathy17 and deathworlds push on Elephant. The "slip" itself isn't enough to vote someone but that slot's response of lurking away and then defending themself based on meta instead of trying to brush it off like a townie would looks really bad to me.
-vote Elephant
I also really dislike yzb25 for their post defending me lol. It reads as scum who is trying to defend a player who they have reason to suspect is town so they can gain some sweet townpoints later on.
Too busy to go into more details now. I'd vote both yzb25 and Elephant if I could, but pressure on Elephant seems more productive for now.
I am Hela, Odin's firstborn, commander of the legions of Asgard, the rightful heir to the throne and the Goddess of Death.
Whad that is the most obvious sheep VOTE I've seen. Going from L-3 to L-2 doesn't apply pressure if you have nothing to add onto the argument.
whad
you told my reason for voting elephant but you like deathworlds push on them when you say "the slip isn't enough for voting someone" and that was the only reason deathworlds voted elephant.
I like to know what's up with that
and why yzb's defend of you felt that way?
I read it as bad behavior but ultimately NAI. From what I've gathered, I think that slot just likes trying to start drama and then sit back and watch while eating popcorn. Unproductive and despicable behavior if they are town. Just despicable behavior if they are scum.
I am Hela, Odin's firstborn, commander of the legions of Asgard, the rightful heir to the throne and the Goddess of Death.
So before Unknown writes up a long-form bs riddled reason for us being scum for voting them, after I ptb said I was not ready to vote them based on the slip alone.
The vote wasn't placed on Elephant because of the slip. [12/2/16, 11:55:44 PM] Mesk 514: But I agree with sw
[12/2/16, 11:55:54 PM] Mesk 514: Elephant is lacking
Above is copied from our skype chat. Mesk agrees with SW that Elephant is not playing to their full potential given who is on that team. She came in and made a joke about the elephant in the room, which was me and sw/ika fighting over voting for elephant. Which is funny b/c they're the elephant in the room.
Needless to say, Mesk is not voting for the slip and isn't sure if it's a slip at all. She's voting because she thinks elephant is playing passive scum. Also, her jokes were to heal the tension caused by me.
So unknown. Bring all that you got, but you have no case on us buddy.
Yup that's why they picked their name. "Cancer" then realized ika/wolf were in game so they made it "OH the zodiac sign"
Can we even remotely point to anything productive they've done? Nope.
At least FB and us started out trolling but have since provided something...cancer is just. I wish they could be modkilled or replaced tbh.
I was pretty convinced by silverwolf's post. I don't really care if you think it's a sheep vote. I don't have time to elaborate right now since I'm getting ready to go back to work.
I mentioned deathworlds since he gets credit for pointing out the initial "slip" which brought attention to Elephant in the first place.
I don't have time to pull quotes on yzb24 right now. But maybe a better way to explain it is that if I didn't know I was town based on my rolecard, I wouldn't have enough to go on to defend me to the extent that yzb25 did. His defense of me seems artificial and like he has more information than everyone else does. I mean, I think Firebringer is probably town since I really do think his daychat thing is a good enough reason to put him in the town pile for now. But I can see how he believes it's not a good enough reason for me to put him in my town pile. People I'm reading as town are still suspicious of everyone. It's raising red flags that yzb has enough to go off of my posts to not only read me as town but defend me and such.
I am Hela, Odin's firstborn, commander of the legions of Asgard, the rightful heir to the throne and the Goddess of Death.
I am Hela, Odin's firstborn, commander of the legions of Asgard, the rightful heir to the throne and the Goddess of Death.
God Emperor Trudeau:
Going in order of posted, but he starts off this game (and continues) to attack Cancers integrity coming from last game for no reason other than to make them look stupid. See no reason to do this as town.
These life lessons seem out of character and more like he is constantly putting everyone down.
This is the worst read of a person i've had to do in a long time. 95% of the posts you've made are complete shit and show you've done nothing this game at all. It's like you try to seem helpful by posting a lot but in reality you are doing nothing.
I feel like PTB is being two-sided as much as he can. He defends us against Empathy's argument, and yet has never provided any reasonable information of his own on why we are scum. it makes no sense because if he thinks we are scum, and he wants us lynched, he wouldn't be attacking arguments without being constructive. To me it seems as if he's just trying to say that he didn't full on scum-read us when we flip Gambino and so he doesn't look as bad as others.
He says that the cases made on me are not convincing other than a few parts, but that someone needs to make a solid case for me and yet STILL votes me. I don't understand what he is doing this game and it feels like he isn't even trying to solve the game.
says he won't get it behind it, but does get behind it anyways.
I just read through the entire thread, don't know how they reached this conclusion.
This is really bad. Do people think they are doing something this game?
The only thing I feel like they have done effectively is completely distract the thread. After this post I am going to quote all of their posts and show you what I mean.
tbh - I think my bias against cancer affects my read on them. Mesk would probably be the better head to ask. I just inherently don't like them, I don't see any town motivated reasons for just fueling a fire, I can see a scum motivation, use Empathy's anger towards us for a solid vote, appeal to unknowns unrelenting lust for banana to get another vote, calling me or us toxic and whatever to convince people we'd be a good policy lynch if they couldn't make a scum argument. I can see them being scum, but I don't like Banana (sj ur fine bro) so I don't like that slot atm. I'd have to go over everything again, but I'll ask mesk her thoughts.
yzb's defending you was interesting. Could be whiteknighting you or he could just be town. I think it's NAI at best, after fighting with banana and empathy I kinda took a breather from the game. I'd have to further examine it, but from what I read I don't get much from it. But that's because I dont have a fully informed opinion on it.
whad
but the only person who is voting Elephant for slip is deathworldz so why you made that point about not liking pushes about slip?
why his defense was artificial and informative?
Also just pulling up this thing Elephant pointed out about yzb earlier. 4 townreads so early in the game definitely seems like yzb has additional information we don't.
yzb is probably Luciano because AFTER giving me one of his solid townreads, he hedges and says I can only be FBI agent/mole in the unlikely chance I'm scum. But wait. Didn't he give me a solid townread not even 100 posts earlier?
I'm also pretty uncomfortable with how yzb25 is hard discrediting the one person voting him at the moment.
In light of this, I really REALLY have to leave right now, and I still think my vote is best on Elephant right now but if someone could follow up with yzb that would be great homies.
I am Hela, Odin's firstborn, commander of the legions of Asgard, the rightful heir to the throne and the Goddess of Death.
GREAT. Putting us at L-5. Gonna get hammered now.
"Fuck your couch." -Eggy.
^^ you heard it here first.
I'm not signing =/= mesk and eggy aren't signing. Eggy said he's gonna sign, and mesk is sleeping or wrestling a polar bear. IDK what they actually do in canada.
Just know 96% of the itme unsigned posts are someone from my team.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=God Emperor Trudeau;656107] [QUOTE=God Emperor Trudeau;656113] [QUOTE=God Emperor Trudeau;656117] This is just the beginning of how this slot is completely ignoring the point of the game which is to try to find the scum.
I am not going to go into full depth on the 20+ posts GET made defending me then conveniently switched over for no reason.
Too many people in this game are sheeping FA and Empathy's reasoning for voting me and thinking that is "acceptable". I don't understand.
Sorry!
Didn't get to read that in large detail, ill go read it.
My initial thoughts on Elephant have been that if its been darkness posting like I suspect he is going to be harder to read than the other heads, darkness gives off weird no stance approaches to people too often and I see it as scummy.
But I am sure I will be able to sort him soon!
~Mei
Don't pet growlithe, he will bite you.
Because I have no tolerance to argue at this point, PTB just set me off and I am increddibly pissed off.
Claiming Kidnapper. Go with it or don't. up to you.
Ohh wait, the one who has been posting is Unknown.
Sorry!
Clueless me
~Mei
Don't pet growlithe, he will bite you.
[QUOTE=God Emperor Trudeau;656107]
[QUOTE=God Emperor Trudeau;656113]
This is a serious question. But are you retarded? Did you suffer a concussion? Are you really, REALLY, looking into the first parts of the day when very view people had checked into game, and are you REALLY trying to use that as a target?
This is pathetic. I am so disappointed that they ever gave you ladder champion. The sad pathetic grasp at straws is just really sad to watch if I'm being honest.
You have not played this game. Lose your fucking attitude kid.
can you summerize your initial reasons for voting elephant in one post GET ? if you liked others reasons - list those reasons as well.
thx
Switching votes because there is no point in voting GET now.
-vote Whad
My supporting analysis is telling me this "Fuck you" attitude by unknown is town him right now getting mad at Trudeau,
I don't know, I think Unknown scum is more level headed? I might be making that up in my head.
Many of his posts are god awful though.
Also his claim at L-2 when he isn't really within hammer range.
~Ana
Don't pet growlithe, he will bite you.
For me:
1. I believe they did slip twice. Not only with the number, but then claiming it was was a luciano. Just thought it was weird. Not strong enough though in my mind.
2. Their entire interaction with DW, and how they fought against slip.
3. They had no solid defense and they silently left, I just felt it was weird that they would leave because of that.
4. The expanded reasons given by both DW and SW outside of "the slip."
For Mesk/eggy:
1. Agreed with SW that archon is not playing to their full potential.
2. Think's it is odd how they are not really pushing as hard as town, and it seems they are very lazy and un-interested in game.
Given that I was not the one who voted, and I was still looking for info when mesk voted. I cannot say 100%. My reasons above were enough reasons for me not to question her or take the vote away or to have an internal discussion.
Given how they've tried to paint us as scum and done a terrible job at it. It seems like they are being super opportunist to me, and that just gives me more credence to think our vote was the right vote.
We have a lot of posts in this game, and unknown cherry picked our worst ones to make us look like we're anti town.
Why would an actual town accused of being scum do this?
I asked him why he is defending cancer and he gave no reason.
Actually, unsure of that.
@Elephant I don't understand a lot of your stances here. First you say that PTB isn't trying, which I think is a pretty weird thing to say given how many posts he has and to write them all off as though its troll. Second you believe he is scum but again, not understanding reasoning beyond pushing you. I also don't see how you think people are sleeping Frozen when she was just latest person on the wagon.
~Ana
Don't pet growlithe, he will bite you.
Because this game has been a disaster for me, I will save the trouble and give myself a break. But before I do, I would really like to clear something up.
1.) I was trying to get them both to play, and knew that they were both going to be busy throughout the game.
2.) I always make people think I slip when im town, but have never actually slipped as scum. I don't see why people can't see that.
3.) When people thought I had slipped, The ***** discussed and said that it would be better for someone else to argue against it because I was frustrated with myself and my slip. (You can assume that this is my archon "coaching" me, but in reality we never slipped and I wasn't able to get my point across.) So the reason we stopped talking was because I was told not to talk. neither of them came to speak like I was told, so I was forced to take this into my own hands.
Thought it would be fun, but they both were too busy and I prompted them to play. Nothing I can do about that.
There really is no point in lynching me if you think I am FBI Agent because my role is confirmable in two different ways.
If you think Luciano took a Kidnapper role, then go ahead and lynch me.
PTB i don't understand the second slip that you are referring to.
And your team is? Where? You've literally done nothing except push a train on us, when you just admitted you don't think we're scum.
So you're crying b/c I got in a fight with empathy and because I was mean to banana. Ok. Why is this game related and how does it lead to a vote?
It isnt and it shouldnt. So you're admitting that you're noting playing to your win con, but rather, you'd want to vote your own teammate because you don't like them personally. Well damn, staff is all up in here committed attempted game throw if that's the case.
Unknown, go take a breath. Let one of the adults on your team take over. Because I'm not going to respond to your bullshit anymore.
Find something credible on us or shut up. It's that simple.