S-FM 292: ★ Silent Night ★ [14P]

[OzyWho]

Tell me, what part of pushing you is scummy? You may not like being pushed, to which I say "Wah". But how does that make me scummy?

You were pushing me?
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[Ganelon]

If Im Town Im Pretty Much Gamethrowing By Giving A Trying To "Contribute" And "Beg" Something From The Town

Im Self Aware Of It And Im Trying To Prove A Point

main = putStrLn "I Can Speak Like Console.WriteLine() too"

[Chip Skylark]

Btw, why can Nass (or Voz, up to you) claim to not have read their rolecard on post 101, but that every time I say it (and it's always true), I get a thousand people jumping on me and get lynched D1?

-vote Chip Skylark

UNFAIR!

i think voss read it, i usually never read my role cards until n1 lol

efe in disguise

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pls be kind lol

[DJarJar]

He doesn't have to scumread you for that. But he shouldn't "trust" you considering that he specifically said whoever was saying he was a lurker is a liar. Like it's a direct contradiction IDK what more you want to hear about that.

it's not really about you ozy… I was pushing MM there as his logic is contradictory

[Ganelon]

tbh both Efe and blink are scum Lynch them both

[Efekannn02]

main = putStrLn "I Can Speak Like Console.WriteLine() too"

Did You Even Read What I Said?

You Pretty Much Called Me Scum For One Of The Very First Posts I Made In This Game

[DJarJar]

actually

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blinkskater

I think blink is scum this game, you're being wwaaaaaaaay too careful

weren't you just complaining that he was calling you his scum m8 and being way too careless?

[Efekannn02]

tbh both Efe and blink are scum Lynch them both

If You're Town And Scumread Me Because I Played More Serious Then I Gamethrowed

I LOVE WIFOM AND LEARNING WHAT IT IS AND WAS ALL THIS TIME

[Ganelon]

weren't you just complaining that he was calling you his scum m8 and being way too careless?

the two are not mutually exclusive
being careless with calling someone who isn't your team your scummate can be scum indicative
so too can blink being careful

[Ganelon]

okay ignore that last sentence because its not in English, idk what language that is, probably Dutch

[blinkskater]

I agree with most of your points apart from the idea that Ozy would use that table to manipulate us; I do not believe that was the intent behind that post at all.
As someone who was Mafia last game, I can tell you that 90% of the time people misinterpret weird mafia gambits, everyone thought I was trying to soft sniper last game, whereas I actually wasn't. I was just trying to open discussion about something.
same thing I believe happened here, IF ozy is scum - he would be trying to look towny with that post.

I agree with you about !scum ozzy wanting to appear pro town with that gambit, I think you are underestimating how something like that can be used for manipulation. It would circle town around the charts, and it's even easy to add little tidbits of information there to make a player appear more scummy or less scummy whenever you would need to.

[Efekannn02]

Wait... I Have An Idea....

Lets Accuse The Less Active People So They Can Make A Case And Can Side With Any Of Us Against The Enemy Party

With Inconsitencys We Might Find The Scums

@Chip Skylark I Hate That Cartoon So I Want Your Opinion On Me And Varcron (I Used RNG For The Second Name... Actually I Didnt)

[DJarJar]

the two are not mutually exclusive
being careless with calling someone who isn't your team your scummate can be scum indicative
so too can blink being careful

He's.... carefully being careless? I mean I get what you're saying lol but come on mag

[Efekannn02]

Another Idea...

Lets Use Meta And Use The Process Of Elimination With All The Town Reads We Get

All The Scum Reads Will Be Then Placed Under Quarantine As Our Town Powers Try To Use Abilities On Them


(I Love Giving Mediocre Bad Ideas)

[DJarJar]

You were pushing me?
ok

So dismissive. What happened to calling me scummy?

-vote OzyWho

[OzyWho]

-vote OzyWho

Unvote Aamirus

I DEMAND IT!

Why though? Anyway, I have 0 belief that she is Town here.

Low effort Posting And Not Posting too Little


Do You Really Want Me To Post During School Breaks?

my mistake

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Blink			YES
Efe			[YES	YES	YES		YES
Mag
Aamirus
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[Ganelon]

im going off, need to contemplate what me pushing blink skater and scumreading him for these reasons means for 1) what I'm going to do today and 2) my FM career brb

[DJarJar]

I agree with you about !scum ozzy wanting to appear pro town with that gambit, I think you are underestimating how something like that can be used for manipulation. It would circle town around the charts, and it's even easy to add little tidbits of information there to make a player appear more scummy or less scummy whenever you would need to.

yea it's just like PTB's questions from that Vengeful game

[blinkskater]

actually

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I think blink is scum this game, you're being wwaaaaaaaay too careful

still town here, try again

[Efekannn02]

Why though? Anyway, I have 0 belief that she is Town here.



my mistake

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MM
Huey
Solid
Varcron
Caustic
OzyWho
SB16
Korvoth
Naz/Voss
Blink			YES
Efe			[YES	YES	YES		YES
Mag
Aamirus
Yagami

Ty

I Want To Sheep And Vote You Right Now But I Wont Because Of Your Lengthy Posts Being Bug Spray For Me

STOP USING ANTI INSTECT MEDICATION ON YOUR CROPS AND LET ME DESTROY THEM I MEAN EAT THEM I MEAN COLLECT THEM FOR THE BETTERMENT OF MANKIND

[Kovath]

I don't really care for this "you can mAniPulAtE the chart" argument.

Feels like a pseudo-clever argument to back up disliking his post.

[blinkskater]

yea it's just like PTB's questions from that Vengeful game

speaking of that, you're pushing at ozy the same way you were pushing at ptb in that vengeful game, and you were right, so tbh i'm townreading you p hard rn, and I feel better about my scumread on ozzy here, the more you're pushing at him the more selective he gets while replaying, not to mention the OMGUS'Y defensiveness.

[Efekannn02]

My Alignment Is A Wifom In Itself Tbh

[DJarJar]

I don't think they'd ever be scum together because I don't think you'd want to draw attention to your scum mate by scum painting them for something like activity, and then MM comes in and "sheeps" ozzy, and calls him his most towny player in the game? lol

For where we are in the game I don't think they ever do that as wolves

Perhaps that's why MM just said "whoever is saying I was lurking is a liar" rather than just using Ozy's name. Ozy started the game bussing MM but MM is trying to make Ozy look towny. IDK they both feel pretty scummy to me. There was no starting scum chat so they could have gotten their wires crossed, especially since MM probably replied to ozy's opening post before he read anything else

[Efekannn02]

My Goal: Beat Magoroth
I Need A Weapon For This Without Being Called A Spamme....


How About I Just Become A Mad Scientist?

[Ganelon]

I don't really care for this "you can mAniPulAtE the chart" argument.

Feels like a pseudo-clever argument to back up disliking his post.

what is your take on him
and I agree tbh

[Chip Skylark]

i think voss read it, i usually never read my role cards until n1 lol


no
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pls be kind lol

We should know what our role is. Mafia isn't really designed to not know what goal in the game is.

[OzyWho]

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☐ - Townread
☐ - Scumread
☐ - No Read

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Was hoping you guys could help me fill this up? Make it colorful in reds and greens.

[blinkskater]

the two are not mutually exclusive
being careless with calling someone who isn't your team your scummate can be scum indicative
so too can blink being careful

playing openly scummy as you're suggesting isn't being too careful that's a straight up contradiction.

[Efekannn02]

Imb4 Blink And Aamirus Are A Scumteam

Idc Anyway Because Im Unpredictable And There Is Always The Hidden Moment I Can Betray Them And Lynch Them


Btw I Havent Seen The % So Far Which Means That I Wont Use RNG For My Night Action Till Its Been Used

[Ganelon]

the lawyer's in this game? lol

[Ganelon]

yeah you're right, lets ignore this for now

[Ganelon]

We should know what our role is. Mafia isn't really designed to not know what goal in the game is.

This here sounds like Voss tbh

[Kovath]

what is your take on him
and I agree tbh

Too much going on around that slot right now, I don't feel comfortable giving a take

[blinkskater]

im going off, need to contemplate what me pushing blink skater and scumreading him for these reasons means for 1) what I'm going to do today and 2) my FM career brb

wtf

[Efekannn02]

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☐ - Townread
☐ - Scumread
☐ - No Read

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Was hoping you guys could help me fill this up? Make it colorful in reds and greens.

I Scumread Everyone For The Time Being Except The People I Dont Hate


Yagami Aamirus And Blink Are The Only Green Ones So Far

[Ganelon]

why isn't anyone sheeping my votes on blink/sb16
meh

-vote Stealtbomber16

still wanna hear from sb16

[blinkskater]

I don't really care for this "you can mAniPulAtE the chart" argument.

Feels like a pseudo-clever argument to back up disliking his post.

I actually mentioned that within the first few pages lol

[OzyWho]

the lawyer's in this game? lol

aamirus has his slot, they switched out at some point.
lawyer became the reserve.

[DJarJar]

aamirus has his slot, they switched out at some point.
lawyer became the reserve.

jeez how many charts did you make prior to the game starting?

[OzyWho]

I Scumread Everyone For The Time Being Except The People I Dont Hate


Yagami Aamirus And Blink Are The Only Green Ones So Far

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[Kovath]

I actually mentioned that within the first few pages lol

I'm not seeing this unless I'm actually blind, got a post number or approximation or something to look for?

[OzyWho]

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OzyWho, aamirus, blinkskater, Chip Skylark, Efekannn02, Frinckles, Magoroth, Voss

lol

[blinkskater]

Perhaps that's why MM just said "whoever is saying I was lurking is a liar" rather than just using Ozy's name. Ozy started the game bussing MM but MM is trying to make Ozy look towny. IDK they both feel pretty scummy to me. There was no starting scum chat so they could have gotten their wires crossed, especially since MM probably replied to ozy's opening post before he read anything else

I see a scum MM being more selective about reading. It's actually one of the tells I have for him. As scum he'll selectively make sure he reads everything, then posts so that that miscommunications cant happen. And I can usually pick that up when he posts. Like I can tell when he's posting real stream of consciousness town, and then I can tell when he's posting selectively after already having read as scum. I really don't see them being a team.

[Ganelon]

sb16 should be red for me
I think I will be able to read kovath soon

[Kovath]

I see a scum MM being more selective about reading. It's actually one of the tells I have for him. As scum he'll selectively make sure he reads everything, then posts so that that miscommunications cant happen. And I can usually pick that up when he posts. Like I can tell when he's posting real stream of consciousness town, and then I can tell when he's posting selectively after already having read as scum. I really don't see them being a team.

This is a decent and reasonable take in general though I don't know enough about MM to know if it's really meta for him.

[Kovath]

sb16 should be red for me
I think I will be able to read kovath soon

Good luck!

[blinkskater]

I'm not seeing this unless I'm actually blind, got a post number or approximation or something to look for?

lemmie look hang on

[DJarJar]

Too much going on around that slot right now, I don't feel comfortable giving a take

This is talking about blinkskater right? When you say don't feel comfortable giving, do you mean that you haven't decided yet or that you just don't want to share right now?

[Efekannn02]

Good luck!

-vote Kovath