S-FM 221: Death Note

[BananaCucho]

[MattZed]

What reason would there be to put you on L-1 this early? That's reckless.

I'm not encouraging L-1 by any means. But there were times when the train shifted off of me and you had more than enough chance to change your vote.

But to another point, what are your reads at the moment, even?

[Firebringer]

I will kick your ass so hard.

little do you know, thats one of my fetishes.

[BananaCucho]

Typo corrected. Post didn't go through the first time, and I mistyped it the second time.

Yeah that's not opportunism at all. That's not just a poor choice of words, it's a completely different concept.

[MattZed]

Yeah that's not opportunism at all. That's not just a poor choice of words, it's a completely different concept.

Are you just going to continue to take cheap prods wherever you can find them?

[Firebringer]

Are you just going to continue to take cheap prods wherever you can find them?

to be honest, ur not making it hard for anyone to do so.

[Firebringer]

to answer ur previous question mattzed, I think Ika is town, but he is a weaker townread than all of my other ones.

[BananaCucho]

I'm not encouraging L-1 by any means. But there were times when the train shifted off of me and you had more than enough chance to change your vote.

But to another point, what are your reads at the moment, even?

I stated when both you and Ika were L-2 that I would be okay with either of you being lynched. That hasn't changed.

My vote was on ika at that time, and I removed it to stop him from calling on SW to hammer him like he was wanting to do but I was still leaning Ika

But now I'm ready to help hammer you when the time comes.

[Firebringer]

banana is now third in line for my scum reads.

[BananaCucho]

Are you just going to continue to take cheap prods wherever you can find them?

How is that a cheap prod? It adds to SWs point of you being robotic and making statements that make nonsense at all. That opportunistic comment was literally a regurgitated defense.

[Firebringer]

too bad there can be only one.
sorry banana, mz still winning the scummy department.

[MattZed]

to be honest, ur not making it hard for anyone to do so.

Regardless of whether or not this is true, I tend to know that BC is a much better player than to rely on the cheap shots. Frankly, I've been getting a LOT of FF VII vibes from BC's play lately. He'll point out the occasional thing he might not like about my play without ever making a sustained push or asking me for my thoughts. It's very much like his (lazy, admittedly) scumplay there to expose the easy could-be-viewed-as-scummy things that towns naturally do without delving into them deeply.

I'm asking him questions because I want to see something that differentiates his play now from him play then.

[BananaCucho]

too bad there can be only one.
sorry banana, mz still winning the scummy department.

Lol we do this dance every game

[Firebringer]

Lol we do this dance every game

ur a good dance partner.

[Firebringer]

you know most the time we do the dance, I am scum.
Fun fact.

[MattZed]

How is that a cheap prod? It adds to SWs point of you being robotic and making statements that make nonsense at all. That opportunistic comment was literally a regurgitated defense.

I was making the point that people need to stop shitty voting. I called it opportunistic because they were following any opportunity to achieve their agenda of seeing someone other than ika lynched. Granted, it's not the usual mafia sense of opportunism, but it's still the plain sense of the word.

If you're town you really need to stop getting hung up nit picking.

[BananaCucho]

you know most the time we do the dance, I am scum.
Fun fact.

Holy shit you roll scum quite a bit don't you? Now that I think about it

[Firebringer]

Holy shit you roll scum quite a bit don't you? Now that I think about it

and this game i rolled L
I am pro

[BananaCucho]

and this game i rolled L
I am pro

Or did you?

[Firebringer]

Or did you?

no, i rolled kira.

[Stealthbomber16]

reading is hard

=) is hard

Guys, I have the notebook with me.
I wrote down the names:

=)

(=

o=

my question to you is, who will die first? The joke? or the horse?

MY SOUL

There's only one scum so who is the scum making all the townies vote you?

MattZed (4 [L-2]):
SuperJack, ika, SilverWolf, Firebringer

I'd like to take this one.

SuperJack's reason for voting up MattZed is explicitly stated; he's just sheeping ika.
ika, personally I think that if there is a scum on this train it's ika. I may have missed something here, admittedly, but I think the reason behind ika voting Matt is due to the fact he needed to deflect the heat off of him somewhere else.
And you and FB share a reasoning: MattZed's posts seem robotic and monotonous, as if he's going back over them several times. In my experience this isn't a consistent scumtell, in fact its gone the other way. I don't look over my posts, hardly at all, ever. I get blamed for stuff like inconsistency, and for saying things that I take back later. This gets me lynched in most games. Its something that I'm focusing on in this game.

I don't know if I disapprove of lynching Matt yet, but I certainly don't like the reasons for the train building up on him, and seeing my top scum-read and his mareep on this train make me very uneasy. So as of right now I am not planning on voting MattZed.

banana is now third in line for my scum reads.

Can you do me a favor and unvote or move your vote off of matt for the night? I don't want some kind of ninja shit happening with mesk gyrlander and/or banana lynching matt in the middle of the night while nobody else is around, while we can't discuss it. I'd rather lynch when everyone is around.

and this game i rolled L
I am pro

WHY IS THIS MAKING ME TOWNREAD YOU WHAT THE FUCK

[Stealthbomber16]

SuperJack (1 [L-5]):
Gyrlander
ika (3 [L-3]):
Stealthbomber16, MattZed, Cryptonic
MattZed (4 [L-2]):
SuperJack, ika, SilverWolf, Firebringer
Gyrlander (1 [L-5]):
Mesk514
18 hours 43 minutes 25 seconds remaining
Day 1

[MattZed]

I've given my reasons before, and I want more out of this slot.

-vote BananaCucho

Spoiler : BananaCucho ISO :

8 - greeting post
13 - facepalm at ika claiming cit on page 1
15 - asks people to stop claiming
17 - states opposition to voting blocs
20 - asks ika if he's actually trolling
21 - asks ika to clarify about trust tell
23 - that post I famously misread
140 - "reading is hard" to my response to 23
160 - accuses SJ of making a diversion vote on Crypt after I called him out
169 - votes SJ after SJ claims he is torn between Crypt and FB for scum
170 - says he's been townreading me but dislikes my vote on FB
173 - calls Fire's trolling NAI
178 - townreads Crypt for a post
179 - maintains that trolling is "classic town Fire"
180 - fluff
181 - asks SJ for examples of when Fire has claimed scum as town before
183 - says he'll find times FB has played similarly in the past
192 - in response to 183, says he may be mistaken
193 - fluff
194 - fluff
196 - prods ika that SW can defend herself
202 - says ika had SW pegged as town prior to her admitting to doing "jack shit"
204 - asks if ika was trolling when proposing a townbloc, since he does it a lot
206 - votes ika
209 - fluff
210 - accuses ika of using too many words to say nothing
213 - "Stop harassing me" in response to ika giving a (= to #210
214 - asks Stealth why he didn't get on the ika train sooner, given that his reason is for making a bloc
233 - asks ika why he's "rolling over" at 3 votes
253 - "Are you stupid? I think you're stupid." in response to me allegedly misreading #202
255 - explains that 202 is based on ika claiming SW was confirmed cit on page 1
284 - tells Stealth that players on this site act scummy on purpose
285 - says he is okay with a lynch of either myself or ika
289 - accuses me of not reading
292 - says I'm not taking the game seriously
293 - slight modification to #292
299 - says it's NAI for SW and ika to defend each other
300 - fluff
301 - fluff
308 - points out the double negative I missed
309 - quotes posts relevant to 308
322 - asks Gyrlander for his thoughts and if his vote on SJ is serious
334 - asks Gyrlander why he didn't state a reason for his vote if it were serious
356 - fluff
358 - fluff
365 - unvotes ika after he asks to be L-1'd and hammered
375 - fluff
383 - points out that there are 20 hours left and that he can be counted on to join the lynch
387 - asks if SJ's vote on me is DW part 2
412 - fluff about selling votes
414 - WIFOM fluff
416 - fixes typo in 414
424 - fluff about having to fix typos
433 - wtf at my response to Crypt on objecting to Stealth's question
438 - fluff

Not outright damning, but there's a lot of lack of followthrough that bothers me. Prods people, but if they ignore his question he just lets it go. I've clearly been his top suspect for a while, but he's not pushing to make me the eventual lynch at all. Just sitting there, content to let other people vote. Gets into a few cheap shots that he wasn't involved in, like telling ika SW doesn't need defending. There's also the troubling moment where he says Fire trolls like this most games, but then when he checks the record to find this actually unusual for FB, his opinion on FB doesn't change. If he has deep thoughts about this game, he's concealing them. BC is perhaps the most skilled player in this game, and if he's town, I'd like to hear those thoughts.

@Banancucho, again, your reads please.

[BananaCucho]

Thanks Stealth, great to know you think so little of me to think I would ninja hammer someone way before day end. Fuck you too pal.

[Stealthbomber16]

@Banancucho, again, your reads please.

$10 ika says "writing is hard"?

[Stealthbomber16]

Thanks Stealth, great to know you think so little of me to think I would ninja hammer someone way before day end. Fuck you too pal.

I actually added you in a p-edit. I was thinking more mesk and gyr.

[BananaCucho]

I actually added you in a p-edit. I was thinking more mesk and gyr.

Doesn't make me feel any less insulted somehow.

[Firebringer]

nah banana gets a pass because if they are kira, i expect a conversion tonight.

[BananaCucho]

nah banana gets a pass because if they are kira, i expect a conversion tonight.

You keep forgetting that as scum I love to mislynch you.

But then again if I was Kira and converted you I could then bus you lol

[MattZed]

@BananaCucho , are you working on producing reads or are you just going to not give your opinions?

[Firebringer]

You keep forgetting that as scum I love to mislynch you.

But then again if I was Kira and converted you I could then bus you lol

i now a hundred percent expect this conversion if you are kira.

[BananaCucho]

i now a hundred percent expect this conversion if you are kira.

Which would end the game since you're L

Or would it?

[Firebringer]

Which would end the game since you're L

Or would it?

The WIFOM is real.

[BananaCucho]

The WIFOM is real.

...or is it?

[MattZed]

FB, do me a favor and stop circle jerking BC and tell him to give actual reads.

[BananaCucho]

FB, do me a favor and stop circle jerking BC and tell him to give actual reads.

2 don't make a circle Matt.

[MattZed]

2 don't make a circle Matt.

What around post 300 made you think it was okay to go into troll mode with half of day remaining?

[Firebringer]

2 don't make a circle Matt.

Or does it?

[Cryptonic]

no, i rolled kira.

Or did you?

[Cryptonic]

You know, I'm having a lot of fun this game

[MattZed]

I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I miss Calix. She knew how to actually put a cap on shitposting.

[Firebringer]

I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I miss Calix. She knew how to actually put a cap on shitposting.

ur a cap.

[Firebringer]

god, i so drunk guys.
hows life?

[BananaCucho]

You know, I'm having a lot of fun this game

Or are you?

[Firebringer]

Or are you?

now i am the one who murdered her!

[SilverWolf]

I'm gonna change my stealthbomber read from null to town.

[Firebringer]

hows life guys?

[MattZed]

hows life guys?

Played some SC2 and discovered rapid fire hotkeys which changed my life.

Also trying to get a straight answer out of BC, but I suppose some things are just impossible.

[Gyrlander]

I refuse to Lynch MZ. He deserves compassion and someone yo rely on as he did with me in Final Fantasy.

So my current Lynch order is everyone but him, in alphabetical order.

[MattZed]

I refuse to Lynch MZ. He deserves compassion and someone yo rely on as he did with me in Final Fantasy.

So my current Lynch order is everyone but him, in alphabetical order.

Why is your lynch order alphabetical, though?