S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

[Distorted]

I remember you asked me in the last few minutes to reply to that 19x post. x is some number i dont remember. Neither am i sure if you asked. But i thought you did, so i did.

No, you asked me when I was going to address the situation with magoroth painting blink as scum and i said i already did in post #196.

OzyWho:

@Distorted
You still haven't elaborated on your "Ozy+Mag painting Blink as Scum" claim.

Distorted:

post #196 IN THIS COLOR it is directly addressed.

Distorted:

now can you please respond to post #284 and #285?

I never once asked for a response on the wall post - You asked me If I was going to address the issue, i claimed i already did and told you where I did.

[Distorted]

I remember you asked me in the last few minutes to reply to that 19x post. x is some number i dont remember. Neither am i sure if you asked. But i thought you did, so i did.

once again dude, you are making stuff up.

@Gyrlander Can I change my role to Silencer(Blackmailer) to blackmail Distorted for next day?

How about you just keep up on the reading so you can avoid this happening again?

[Ganelon]

Wow... guys... what the hell

[Ganelon]

When did I suddenly become so important?

[Distorted]

When did I suddenly become so important?

[OzyWho]

once again dude, you are making stuff up.


How about you just keep up on the reading so you can avoid this happening again?

YOU POST FASTER THAN RABBITS FUCK!

We are both at fault here though. I could have checked more into what you were referring to while you could have saved me the trouble.
Early elaboration or 100+posts because misunderstandings (or are there? ). Lesson fucking learned. I won't rely on my memory ever again.

[Ganelon]

I don't remember if I unvoted Noz, but in case I didn't...

-vote unvote

[Distorted]

But, the good news from that - I have a more townish lean towards Ozy, because I don't thnk a new player would put himself out that far into the spotlight if he was scum. However there is the chance he felt it would lead to a lynch or something and went panic mode, but i think the first option fits the scenario better.

[Distorted]

I don't remember if I unvoted Noz, but in case I didn't...

-vote unvote

at the top there is a button "vote count" it is INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT in FM.

[Ganelon]

Personally, I'm starting to suspect Marshmallow as a possible scum. I will not, as yet, reveal the reason as to why I am saying that. That'll be established tomorrow.

[Soviet_Love]

Personally, I'm starting to suspect Marshmallow as a possible scum. I will not, as yet, reveal the reason as to why I am saying that. That'll be established tomorrow.

fishy

[Gyrlander]

@Gyrlander If there is an architect/earthbinder and they put a witch and a town in the same nightchat, does the witch also have access to night-chat with the other witch?

Yes.

[Gyrlander]

@Gyrlander Can I change my role to Silencer(Blackmailer) to blackmail Distorted for next day?

That would require you to pay the amount of 10000$.

[OzyWho]

So there is a chance...

[Distorted]

That would require you to pay the amount of 10000$.

!! yay im expensive!! =D =D <3

[OzyWho]

Ahh fuck it. Only 2 hours remain till Day1 ends. I will just post my opinions about everyone and be done with Day1, hopefully.
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@Magoroth , only one I am confident is evil. Would take mighty convincing to make me think otherwise.
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@Distorted and @Soviet_Love
only two I am very sure they are town.
HOWEVER:
If Distorted gets Blackmailed Day2, he is an acting scum.
If there are 0 killers, then Soviet is on my suspect list.
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@blinkskater , neutral. My opinion on him will depend on what N1/D2 brings. If evils have strong roles, blink is on my suspect list. If evils have weak roles, he is innocent.
(just because if evils depend on lynches then a Day1 inactive townie shouldn't be evil in my eyes)
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@Noz_Bugz and @Marshmallow Marshall
I lean both of them more towards scummy than towny.
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So basically - all of you are scum in my eyes. Nothing personal.

[Ganelon]

3 people, including myself, are in favour of lynching Noz if blind voting is called.

What about you, Ozy?

[OzyWho]

I am in favor of that because of posts: #240, #244.
He might have homework, but it's no excuse imo.

I would much rather we vote Mag though. As I am more confident that he is evil than Noz. If people could get up a vote for that in this remaining time, I would +1 that. If not, then Noz it is.

[OzyWho]

post #244 because time is almost over and he still gave no reply which he promised some hours ago

[Ganelon]

I am updating my list of suspects:

-Marshmallow Marshall
-Noz_Bugz

I find their interactions with one another to be somewhat suspicious. I wouldn't, however, press for a lynch on Marshmallow just yet. Let's see what Day 2 brings.

@Gyrlander , are we told who/how a player died?

[Gyrlander]

I am updating my list of suspects:

-Marshmallow Marshall
-Noz_Bugz

I find their interactions with one another to be somewhat suspicious. I wouldn't, however, press for a lynch on Marshmallow just yet. Let's see what Day 2 brings.

@Gyrlander , are we told who/how a player died?

You know who died but not how.

[Soviet_Love]

Just posting quick thoughts because day is almost over:

My most towny reads thus far are (1) Distorted, followed by (2) MM.
I'm unsure about (3) blinkskater, but put him more likely towny than witch.
I'm neutral on (4) Ozy.
I'm currently most suspicious of (5) Magaroth and (6) Noz [with Noz being my most scum read].

But, all these are subject to change and I think basing things off of metas or accusations day 1 is inherently faulty.

[blinkskater]

hmm, sorry for the inactivity guys, i have been really busy IRL, i don't know if ill be caughtup for EOD but can anyone summarize things real quick for me?

[OzyWho]

hmm, sorry for the inactivity guys, i have been really busy IRL, i don't know if ill be caughtup for EOD but can anyone summarize things real quick for me?

Noz is scum #1 in most players eyes, we vote him if judge Day2.
MM nothing in fnal ~10+ hours of the day even though saw his name here in online list.
Mag is scummy scummy
Soviet and Distorted are townie townie
Ozy and Distorted are not friends
Idk what else.



Also, I change my stance on MM from him being scummy scummy to him being townie townie.

[blinkskater]

Noz is scum #1 in most players eyes, we vote him if judge Day2.
MM nothing in fnal ~10+ hours of the day even though saw his name here in online list.
Mag is scummy scummy
Soviet and Distorted are townie townie
Ozy and Distorted are not friends
Idk what else.



Also, I change my stance on MM from him being scummy scummy to him being townie townie.

hm i still have a lot more posts to read, ill post this up real quick before EOD
Townie reads: Distorted, Soviet
Neutral: Noz, Ozy
Scumish: Mag, MM(MM only for the fact that he is just being "helpfull" and not "activly trying to scumhunt" like he usually does strikes me as ODD, also I find it odd he hasn't verbally gone after someone yet for their opinions being, not quite the same as his :P
anyways that's all i got I will be more active, and if there is a doctor, distorded should probally get it

[OzyWho]

Great. I'm neutral in most players eyes.
Mag sees me as most-townie-like, which is great.... too bad he is the most scummy-like for me though...

I will miss you, Distorted.
And don't you fake being blackmailed on Day2!

[blinkskater]

I was talking directly to MM not Mag. gtfo you scum.

You are right about the action, not about the meaning.
You assume I defend myself because you are right. But I defend myself because you are wrong. The meaning not action.

So, you see something, make an assumption, i defend myself because it's wrong, you assume because it's right. Is that it?

Let me ask you something. How sure are you about you being right? Can we just agree to disagree and you stop annoying me with bullshit?

scummmy scum scumish move ozy over to my scumish reads

[OzyWho]

scummmy scum scumish move ozy over to my scumish reads

I don't mind. As long as you don't talk lies about me!

[blinkskater]

But, the good news from that - I have a more townish lean towards Ozy, because I don't thnk a new player would put himself out that far into the spotlight if he was scum. However there is the chance he felt it would lead to a lynch or something and went panic mode, but i think the first option fits the scenario better.

hmm, i don't think Ozy is new to "FM" so to say, I think that he has played elsewhere, and knows exactly what he is doing

[Gyrlander]

Night One



No one was lynched.

Player List


1. @Magoroth
2. @Noz_Bugz
3. @OzyWho
4. @Distorted
5. @Marshmallow Marshall
6. @Soviet_Love
7. @blinkskater

Graveyard

None


Day Two will start in...

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[Gyrlander]

Day Two



blinkskater was disintegrated during the night. He was a Citizen.

Player List

1. @Magoroth
2. @Noz_Bugz
3. @OzyWho
4. @Distorted
5. @Marshmallow Marshall
6. @Soviet_Love

Graveyard

blinkskater - Citizen


Night 2 will start in...

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4 votes to hammer.

[Ganelon]

First

[OzyWho]

Well.. damn. Was kinda hoping we would get lucky and Witches get 0 killers.
Now this puts us under MyLo pressure.

Alright, first off - if we abstain today, what are the chances we auto lose? In other words, what are the chances that a 2nd killer will show up on the 2nd night?
If the answer is impossible - can we agree to not lynch today unless absolute certainty?

[Ganelon]

Nothing is impossible. It is, however, extremely unlikely.

[Ganelon]

There are 3 possible killing roles; the likelihood that there is a killing role is 44% or so. I will do the math about the porbability of a second killing role in just a bit, I am a bit busy atm.

[OzyWho]

scummmy scum scumish move ozy over to my scumish reads

And now you are dead? This is bloody convenient for me!

hmm, i don't think Ozy is new to "FM" so to say, I think that he has played elsewhere, and knows exactly what he is doing

I have played SC2Maf. 12k points now there.

[OzyWho]

There are 3 possible killing roles; the likelihood that there is a killing role is 44% or so. I will do the math about the porbability of a second killing role in just a bit, I am a bit busy atm.

@Noz_Bugz Already did the math on Day1. At least he said 9% for two killers. I think we can almost safely say that no 2nd killer. I really rather we don't lynch today. Even putting someone on T-2 or what its called - that could be gamethrow because of our MyLo situation.

[OzyWho]

And now you are dead? This is bloody convenient for me!

Obviously, I'm joking about this. I was really hoping that the Witches would get 0 killers..

[OzyWho]

Alright.
How do we make a list of suspects?
What clues did we get on Day1?
What are we doing now?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Well.. damn. Was kinda hoping we would get lucky and Witches get 0 killers.
Now this puts us under MyLo pressure.

Alright, first off - if we abstain today, what are the chances we auto lose? In other words, what are the chances that a 2nd killer will show up on the 2nd night?
If the answer is impossible - can we agree to not lynch today unless absolute certainty?

There could be: GF and Arson, MM and Arson, only GF, only MM. The answer is not impossible at all. However, I think MM cannot kill every night, right? Even if he doesn't kill anyone? Since blink was a Citizen, we know there cannot be a MM kill tomorrow. Only arsonist kill. And if there's arsonist in the setup, I damn the gods of randomization for that.

Now gonna reveal something: I was roleblocked. We must take in account this fact so we can evaluate the setup better. Now I'm gonna make a post about what I think of that EoD (End of Day).

[OzyWho]

I know there are five players that are not me. 2 of them are evil. 40% to random lynch an evil. Not good enough

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@Noz_Bugz Already did the math on Day1. At least he said 9% for two killers. I think we can almost safely say that no 2nd killer. I really rather we don't lynch today. Even putting someone on T-2 or what its called - that could be gamethrow because of our MyLo situation.

Noz didn't do the math, Soviet_Love did.

[OzyWho]

There could be: GF and Arson, MM and Arson, only GF, only MM. The answer is not impossible at all. However, I think MM cannot kill every night, right? Even if he doesn't kill anyone? Since blink was a Citizen, we know there cannot be a MM kill tomorrow. Only arsonist kill. And if there's arsonist in the setup, I damn the gods of randomization for that.

Now gonna reveal something: I was roleblocked. We must take in account this fact so we can evaluate the setup better. Now I'm gonna make a post about what I think of that EoD (End of Day).

Was blink killed by an MM and not GF? That's pretty good news tbh. Means it's near impossible for more than one townie die next night!!!

[OzyWho]

Noz didn't do the math, Soviet_Love did.

You're right. My mistake.

[OzyWho]

Now gonna reveal something: I was roleblocke

GOOD! Sorry, but it's great! That ACTUALLY MEANS THAT NEXT NIGHT 0 TOWNIE DEATHS!!!
If, of course, it was MM and not GF who attacked last night. Or a vigi...

[OzyWho]

I thought for a second that evils might also try to lie about being rbed or silenced or whatnot to get us off the track. But in this situation, i think lying about being rbed would have no benefits for them.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Was blink killed by an MM and not GF? That's pretty good news tbh. Means it's near impossible for more than one townie die next night!!!

Uh oh, calm down sir. 50/50 odds he was killed by MM instead of GF

[Ganelon]

It does not mean anything. Blink could just as easily have died go Rational Arcanist.

[OzyWho]

Uh oh, calm down sir. 50/50 odds he was killed by MM instead of GF

"blinkskater was disintegrated during the night" Does that word not imply MM kill?

[Gyrlander]

Upon investigation, blinkskater's LW was found:

"I think you all can trust Distorted, I wouldn't trust Ozzy, Mag, MM... I'd be willing to bet 100$ USD that one of them is scum."