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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Setup says mafia kill can be performed alongside other actions, so my guess would be that he can do both.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Which ones in particular?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Ok, @Damus_Graves . This one's for you.



    Translation: It's ok for Slaol to say: "lynch me, it's good" and then say "IT WAS A TRAP" and "MM is super scum" followed by "lol jk I townread him the whole time it was all part of my plan", but when I make a vote for mixed reasons some of which I claim immediately (policy) and some of which I don't (slight scum read on Slaol) somehow that makes me scummy? Nah dawg.

    @Damus - this post has no evidence by Slaol of me twisting his words. He is accusing me of being a hypocrite (ignoring my explanation of what was actually going on and supplanting his own) while himself being a hypocrite.




    Still no evidence of me twisting words. The first part is pretty weak and ignores the fact that I was calling out entire posts for being worthless. He has had to nitpick specific pieces of my posts to create this so called "contradiction" to try to paint me as a hypocrite.

    Also trying to say I'm afraid of him/his words. I'm not, it's just that there's little/no substance to them, most of it his his own projections. I also want to actually talk to people other than Slaol, which will be imposible if I respond to all of his accusations because they are never ending. This is intentional on his part as he is trying to both bury other conversations and keep me on the defensive so I can't effectively pursue other leads.



    Still no sign of me twisting Slaol's words. Did you just pick these posts at random, Damus?

    In any case, to the first point: Slaol once again ignores all nuance. I made a dumb joke based on a joke we have that has nothing to with this fm. I did not in any way use this to make or support my arguments about things within the game. He has actively tried to use metagame knowledge as evidence against me.

    2nd point: Not much to be said. I was undecided, so I said so. My mind changed later.

    3rd: I dismissed his post. I'm also not the one who pointed him out as an easy lynch as Slaol did in this post. And for the record, I don't particularly want to lynch Mike at this point in time.



    Still no evidence of me twisting Slaol's words in this post. This is starting to feel like a waste of time. I've already responded to the parts of this post that had new information. I already knew Slaol was on Yayap's dick even though Yayap hasn't really said anything that's especially pro-town and hates Rumox because he agrees with me.




    You got me to respond to Slaol's propaganda on false pretenses and somehow between the two of us you label MY response as a "knee jerk reaction"? lol ok.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Oh, as in he would have killed someone specifically to take their role? I didn't even think about that. Ok, well going through the list:

    Mayor - untargetable
    Doctor - not useful to scum
    Lookout - not useful to scum
    Veteran - immune to mafia kill
    Survivalist - wouldn't actually die + not that useful even if he did
    Vigilante - Good, but can only be used once
    Grave Digger - you are here
    Jailor - some use, but relies on there being a no lynch today, which can't be depended upon
    Escort - Very Desirable
    Networker - some use, but not great for scum
    Bus Driver - very Desirable
    Bodyguard - no good
    Sheriff - no good

    The way I see it, there are only 4 targets he'd really want, with BD & Escort being clearly better than the rest (imo) since they both cause confusion without leaving a trace and are repeatable on a consistent basis.

    While it's true that Networker is not on that list, Yayap is obviously a strong player that mafia knew was working against them, so it's possible that Mike is scum and they simply prioritized eliminating Yayap over bolstering Mike's power.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    What do you mean he would have chosen a different role? He has no other options. Yayap is his only valid target.

    I'm down with the pressure vote.
    -vote Banshis
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    He can't bus himself. I asked. But just for everyone's benefit:

    @Auckmid ;Which roles (if any) are allowed to target themselves with their own action?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    I have been active and open with my opinions. I'll leave the leadership discussion open to others.

    At what point did I encourage or expressed a desire for lurking? My reads are null on those players because they haven't said much. You are welcome to disagree, but given my strong read on you (regardless of whether or not it was correct), it's not fair to say all my reads are null.

    And really not sure how to take that compliment from someone who has been calling me bad all game.



    Why would an MM/Creed/Slaol scum team affect your sheriff check? If Creed had RB'd you, you'd know it from the lack of feedback. And Slaol can't bus himself, so your check was 100% accurate. We just have no way of knowing if you're lying about it or not.



    It's nearly impossible not to, tbh.



    luv u bb <3
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    If you really are town, you have a terrible way of showing it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Though thinking about it some more, I suppose this doesn't rule out the possibility that naz is scum alongside Slaol. Did Yayap's plan account for this possibility?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    I healed you. I figured you would check me or Slaol and wanted to make sure you survived for that check to matter.

    I really thought Slaol was scum. Now I'll have to rethink all of my reads.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    It refers to when a player scumreads someone solely because that person called them scum. So Mike's reasoning for scumreading anyone in this game, essentially.

    I'm not sure why that's the term for it, though. I've always thought of it as something like "OMG ur scum!", but that seems too stupid to be real, so I'll be disappointed if that's what it is. lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    null, null, and null leaning town.

    Banshis and TDL haven't said enough for me to get a strong read on them. My slight town lean on Banshis is mostly gut feeling.

    Mike I just can't decide. Day 1 I thought he was just a confused townie, who reacts to pressure with omgus because he doesn't know better. But I can't help but notice that Yayap, the guy who actually wanted to start a vote train on Mike, is the one who was killed last night, which fits with Mike's omgus. Of course, since it's Yayap, I can think of reasons why any scum team would want to kill him, which is why I'm still undecided on Mike's alignment. But I am definitely going to be examining him more closely now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    I agree, I think it was poor setup knowledge on Mike's part. I think he did. I have a feeling I know where Yayap is going with this, so I'm willing to let it play out if for no other reason than to gain insight into Yayap's motives.



    I can't help but notice there's no assessment of what happens if Slaol flips town/scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    I don't recall him saying this, but it may have just gotten lost in the spam. If you point me to the exact examples, I can give a response to his specific allegations. With that said- I haven't twisted his words at all. He is the one trying to twist things around. Take this post for instance:



    He's attacking me for what he perceives to be my intention behind it, as if he has any way of knowing my intentions. Apparently (according to Slaol) the fact that I wasn't satisfied with MMs initial reasoning behind his scum read of Slaol automatically means I don't care about what MM has to say at all for the rest of the game even though I have never said anything to that effect.

    Not quite. I started to get a bit of a scum read on him and used his suggested policy lynch to vote him and see how he would respond. His response further convinced me that he was scum, so I began pushing harder for his lynch.

    I can't speak for Rumox, but I am not on a scum team. And disagreeing with Slaol/ agreeing with a position he disagrees with is not itself a compelling argument of that person's scumminess. Same goes for any other player, myself included.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    You're constantly spamming this thread with your discrediting nonsense. I'm not going to respond to all of it because I don't have the time or the patience. And honestly, the fact that you continue to spam posts without letting anyone get a word in seems like a tactic to dominate the discussion and drown out other voices by burying them in a sea of your stream of consciousness drivel.

    If anyone else has questions for me regarding anything you've said about me or about anything else game-related, I will answer them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Care to share any of your own thoughts on the game?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    What do you think about the Damus/Slaol interactions? They seemed to gang up on you earlier as a possible lynch target and now Slaol is backpedaling and saying he townread you all along and Damus seems to have changed his mind, or at the very least lost interest in you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    That "mic drop" post was surprisingly informative. But not for reasons Slaol intended.



    tl;dr- Slaol says it all... Highlighted in red.

    longer version:

    Slaol claims his plan from the beginning was to propose an anti-town plan and get scum to agree with it so he could find them. However if you read his Topic 3 section which I've highlighted above you'll see that his plan also involved getting town to vote him and he lists all the ways he tried to manipulate them to vote for him. The thing is, if he was town, how would Slaol know who was town in order to seek out their votes with this plan? He started this on page 1 of the game. Yayap and MM were just as likely to be scum as anyone else. Keep in mind he claims that this was his plan from the very beginning and he even cites his early pressure on MM as part of this plan (which started on page 3 of the game). The only way he could possibly know anyone's alignment so early is if he is scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Possibly. Perhaps not in the way you expect though. I lean town on MM and I think Blink's posts lack substance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    This post is worthless.

    If you're going to contribute something useful, do it already. Enough with this announcement of an announcement bullshit. I've had enough of you and Slaol's ego masturbation. Come back to us once you've cleaned up.



    Knowing what you're going to say is not the same as believing it's valid. My mind is made up until I see sufficient evidence to convince me otherwise.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Missed a word there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Insulting my performance doesn't make my points any less valid or yours any more so.



    Making weird puns isn't really analogous to FM doublespeak.

    Also I want to take this opportunity to point out the frequency with which you attempt to use information from outside of this game such as evidence to justify your arguments about things within the game. The only reason you would need to do this is if there was insufficient in-game evidence to justify your positions, which to me is a sign that they don't have a lot of merit, at least within the context of this game.



    Spoilers: It'll be something along the lines of "It was all a bait to catch scum, I never meant a word of it, now lynch Gerik".
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Perhaps we have different definitions of "call out". As I see it, you didn't "call me out" on the policy lynch so much as you got really defensive and suddenly started calling me scum out of nowhere.



    It's a stall tactic. There's no deeper level.



    I think that's highly unlikely at this point.



    Because SB is low activity and thus an easy target on which to deflect unwanted attention/pressure.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Why would you immediately assume we're not on the same team? I'm town, so that would make you scum. But for the sake of argument, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not claiming to be scum and are trying to say that you are town and I'm scum.

    Let's review the facts:

    Fact 1: You suggested that we policy lynch you on the grounds that your role is too powerful in scum hands
    Fact 2: I agreed with said policy lynch
    Fact 3: You then began to accuse me of being scum, as shown here.

    Since you didn't accuse me of being scum until after I reiterated my support of your lynching , we can conclude that you believe support of your lynch to be a scummy position (ignoring for the moment the obvious OMGUS nature of that behavior).
    However, you were the one who originally suggested lynching you, so by that logic you would also be scum. Therein lies the conundrum: If you're town and the suggestion was pro-town, as you claimed, then supporting it should also be seen as pro-town in your eyes. But you see me as scummy for supporting it. This means that either you know it's pro-town and are still actively against it (which would make you scum for opposing a pro-town plan) or you never saw it as a pro-town plan to begin with (which would make you scum for suggesting it).



    I do now.



    It is indeed unfortunate that you are mafia.


    And now, on today's episode of Slaol argues with Slaol (emphasis mine):





    Good news, Slaol. You've been upgraded from 'policy lynch' to #1 Scum read.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    So my meta is that I make good posts regardless of my alignment? I'm ok with this



    So what I'm seeing here is: lynch Slaol. His role existing prevents town from confirming anything or trusting any night actions.

    -vote Slaol




    They do. That is the entire purpose of that mechanic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Can you provide any reasoning behind your FoS on Damus & Slaol other than "they've suspected me of being scum all game"? Because while I'm not necessarily convinced that you're scum, I also don't think reading you as such is itself scummy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    This hurt to read. This is not how statistics work. Simple example: On a perfectly balanced coin, head and tails are both equally likely to occur (50%). If you flip a coin and it lands on heads, the next flip is not guaranteed to land on tails. Same thing here. He could roll town or neutral for 1,000/1,000 FMs. Each event is independent of the last in terms of probability.
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    LETS FUCKING READ THIS SHIT THEN

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Banshis View Post
    Ok, I'm home now.

    First, I can't believe you guys lets a train get into hammer range for the mayor before even half the day has been used, the train literally was a bandwagon and no doubt there is mafia on it. I doubt Damus is mafia, but Gerik putting me into that range so early is incredibly suspicious.

    Second, I have no doubt that Yayap is a good player, but to everyone taking this architect combo and coordination as everyone having to be town is idiotic. Nothing about this coordination makes them town. As long as one person in that group is mafia this coordination works out in their fucking favor. Escort is roleblocking the bus driver meaning their hit can't be redirected. The Sheriff is checking a pretty big town target who people were already not going to lynch. This means none of them are being checked. Also if Naz + Slaol scum team then they can make a scum seem guranteed town (will say I believe this is not the case, but stating it anyways). Lookout is visiting the roleblocked busdriver meaning their kill in undetectable on whoever they go for. I'm sure that there is a mafia in that group and they know it. If Gerik is mafia also then they already know that the doctor won't stop them from a kill on Yayap. Blinkskater stated that he would protect his highest town read. He made it obvious Slaol was his biggest town read. Then if you assume he wasn't literal and just wanting to bait them to attack Naz who he ended up guarding they don't go for her because she is expecting protection and her dying anyways would make the protectives look suspicious. This all leads to Yayap getting killed and because of how great of a player and the fact he is town, all the people in that chat are practically confirmed town!
    Why do you doubt Damus is mafia? Why did you single out my vote against you as being suspicious?

    You're right that Slaol isn't confirmed town until naz is confirmed town, but why do you think it wasn't worthwhile to check him?

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Why do you doubt Damus is mafia? Why did you single out my vote against you as being suspicious?

    You're right that Slaol isn't confirmed town until naz is confirmed town, but why do you think it wasn't worthwhile to check him?
    First, you are the one to have put me in hammer range for mayor. Your vote seemed incredibly opportunistic because you just hopped onto it as a band wagon.
    I haven't gotten strong scum vibes out of Damus for me to think he would be mafia.
    Also I didn't say it wasn't worthwhile, I was pointing out that this coordination is advantageous for mafia as well. There is no reason to believe that everyone who coordinated in that are town just because they worked together. It wasn't like any scum had to go out of their way to make themselves seem town in that exchange. Yayap even said in his first post that creed posted that they were just higher reads and that he is confident there isn't atleast 2 scum in there.

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia




    Slaol - I've townread him since day 1. His free flow unrestricted posting, assures me of his townyness. He doesn't appear to be spinning a scum agenda and made some good points early on in SLAOL VS GERIK. After interacting with him myself and seeing him interact with other players it reinforces my townread on him. Naz's green check on SLAOL has nothing to do with my read.

    Damus - I'm sensing a lot of town motivations behind his posts, I've also mind-melded with him a few times. I don't get the scummy vibes that I saw from his play in the last two games that he was scum. He's thinking and interacting with everyone in what I would say a townlike manor.

    Naz- I do think naz is town due to meta reasons only. I think she needs to work on portraying things in a townlike manor. Scum can have a field day painting her based on her posting style/actions. Calling people dumb, and going DURHH DURHHH is ANTI town. If I wasn't using META I would push a Naz lynch 100%.

    Banshis - I'm going to say that I townread him based on how fast his train gained traction and how players have asked for more contribution from him going on 2 days now. I tend to see scum asking for more contribution from low posters often, and they tend to paint it in a scummy light. I feel he's just a low poster and is likley town.

    Mike - I had a slight townread on him day 1. I just feel mikes being genuine. I don't feel he's hiding anything or trying play with his normal "1 level" of wifom. He can be pretty manipulative when he's scum. I'm not talking manipulation twords other people either i'm talking about getting people to falsely read him. Sometimes he's even cocky about it.


    (NuLL)

    SB16- SB16 hasn't contributed to much this game for me to feel like I have a read on him. He hasn't really done anything alignment indicative. And would like to see him post more reads and interact with some other players. I do feel when he's town he is a lot more vocal about players he finds scummy and usually gets into it more with them to further his reads.

    MM - MM pegged me as really towny at first, but after going over some of his posts at during the night I didn't really get the town MM vibe I normally get from him. And the fact he didn't really give a clear read on my alignment or really any explanation on me.




    Gerik - Day one I didn't like him at all. We had a brief interaction that left me with scum vibes from him. I feel him VS Slaol was TVS day 1. Slaols points VS him to I also heavily agreed with. I don't really see him flipping anything but red.

    TheDyingLight - I find him generally just scummy. Moreso from day 1. I do like his interactions with NAZ, I just think they are scum motivated, due to how obviously scummy naz was being. I think potentially rumox jailing him day 1 was a potential scumplay to make eachother seem more towny.

    creed - Creed doesn't feel like town creed to me. In the last game I played with creed and he was town I felt that it was super obvious that he was town just by his general posting style, and the way everything ebb and flowed.(more of a POE scum

    rumox - I feel like rumox is being very very careful. Making sure all of his posts are logical and make sense. his playstyle right now kind of reminds me of distorteds scum style ATM. He doesn't really seem like he wants to push hard anywhere, just wants to agree with the consensus and add intelligent insight. Gives me extremley bad JUJU and i'm not buying it.
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    @Damus_Graves

    Not gonna go back and find the post but I believe you asked me why I scumread naz.

    Naz has been consistent. I haven’t seen any reason to scumread naz so far. The train on Banshis proves that imo, and I feel even more strongly that naz is town because she switched off. I don’t see a reason for scum to do that, esp one like naz that isn’t scumread widely. You’d rather want a scum mate to hop off for free town points.

    The Banshis train is winding down and now he sees he needs to add more, that’s good enough for me right now. The next place to go is probably Gerik or TDL, or id always be down for Mike. But I’m going to be careful with me vote. Trying to break a habit of slinging my vote around for no reason.
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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Banshis View Post
    First, you are the one to have put me in hammer range for mayor. Your vote seemed incredibly opportunistic because you just hopped onto it as a band wagon.
    I haven't gotten strong scum vibes out of Damus for me to think he would be mafia.
    Also I didn't say it wasn't worthwhile, I was pointing out that this coordination is advantageous for mafia as well. There is no reason to believe that everyone who coordinated in that are town just because they worked together. It wasn't like any scum had to go out of their way to make themselves seem town in that exchange. Yayap even said in his first post that creed posted that they were just higher reads and that he is confident there isn't atleast 2 scum in there.
    What is your opinion on Blinkskater?
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    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    Spoiler : Blink Post :



    Slaol - I've townread him since day 1. His free flow unrestricted posting, assures me of his townyness. He doesn't appear to be spinning a scum agenda and made some good points early on in SLAOL VS GERIK. After interacting with him myself and seeing him interact with other players it reinforces my townread on him. Naz's green check on SLAOL has nothing to do with my read.

    Damus - I'm sensing a lot of town motivations behind his posts, I've also mind-melded with him a few times. I don't get the scummy vibes that I saw from his play in the last two games that he was scum. He's thinking and interacting with everyone in what I would say a townlike manor.

    Naz- I do think naz is town due to meta reasons only. I think she needs to work on portraying things in a townlike manor. Scum can have a field day painting her based on her posting style/actions. Calling people dumb, and going DURHH DURHHH is ANTI town. If I wasn't using META I would push a Naz lynch 100%.

    Banshis - I'm going to say that I townread him based on how fast his train gained traction and how players have asked for more contribution from him going on 2 days now. I tend to see scum asking for more contribution from low posters often, and they tend to paint it in a scummy light. I feel he's just a low poster and is likley town.

    Mike - I had a slight townread on him day 1. I just feel mikes being genuine. I don't feel he's hiding anything or trying play with his normal "1 level" of wifom. He can be pretty manipulative when he's scum. I'm not talking manipulation twords other people either i'm talking about getting people to falsely read him. Sometimes he's even cocky about it.


    (NuLL)

    SB16- SB16 hasn't contributed to much this game for me to feel like I have a read on him. He hasn't really done anything alignment indicative. And would like to see him post more reads and interact with some other players. I do feel when he's town he is a lot more vocal about players he finds scummy and usually gets into it more with them to further his reads.

    MM - MM pegged me as really towny at first, but after going over some of his posts at during the night I didn't really get the town MM vibe I normally get from him. And the fact he didn't really give a clear read on my alignment or really any explanation on me.




    Gerik - Day one I didn't like him at all. We had a brief interaction that left me with scum vibes from him. I feel him VS Slaol was TVS day 1. Slaols points VS him to I also heavily agreed with. I don't really see him flipping anything but red.

    TheDyingLight - I find him generally just scummy. Moreso from day 1. I do like his interactions with NAZ, I just think they are scum motivated, due to how obviously scummy naz was being. I think potentially rumox jailing him day 1 was a potential scumplay to make eachother seem more towny.

    creed - Creed doesn't feel like town creed to me. In the last game I played with creed and he was town I felt that it was super obvious that he was town just by his general posting style, and the way everything ebb and flowed.(more of a POE scum

    rumox - I feel like rumox is being very very careful. Making sure all of his posts are logical and make sense. his playstyle right now kind of reminds me of distorteds scum style ATM. He doesn't really seem like he wants to push hard anywhere, just wants to agree with the consensus and add intelligent insight. Gives me extremley bad JUJU and i'm not buying it.
    This is very colorful and I'm quite impressed with the amount of time you probably spent putting this all together. I don't mean to necessarily detract from any of your arguments but you list meta reasons for quite a lot of postings and that's feels quite troublesome.

    That said, who would you want to push a lynch on? I could assume Rumox since you have your vote pressed on them, but I thought I'd open the floor up to any changes given the posting.

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by creedkingsx View Post
    This is very colorful and I'm quite impressed with the amount of time you probably spent putting this all together. I don't mean to necessarily detract from any of your arguments but you list meta reasons for quite a lot of postings and that's feels quite troublesome.

    That said, who would you want to push a lynch on? I could assume Rumox since you have your vote pressed on them, but I thought I'd open the floor up to any changes given the posting.
    Gerik/TDL, I would gladly push a lynch on. Can you explain to me how my "meta ish" reads feel troublesome? , Most of my reads are how I feel about said players during this game specifically after interacting and interpreting posts.
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    Gerik/TDL, I would gladly push a lynch on. Can you explain to me how my "meta ish" reads feel troublesome? , Most of my reads are how I feel about said players during this game specifically after interacting and interpreting posts.
    It's not actually troublesome persay. That might have been a strong word. A few of us talked about the use of meta during the first day as reasoning for reads being somewhat invalid. Kind of like using a lie detector, if I have to give it a real world example.

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by creedkingsx View Post
    It's not actually troublesome persay. That might have been a strong word. A few of us talked about the use of meta during the first day as reasoning for reads being somewhat invalid. Kind of like using a lie detector, if I have to give it a real world example.
    Why havn't you called out other players when they have mentioned having meta on other players. There isn't an argument in this world that will deter my opinion on META being a viable and strong way to interpret players playing this game.
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Why agree with a policy lynch. It is literally common knowledge that policy lynching is the literal worst thing town can do. But you open fire on Slaol for wanting to policy lynch on his first post and say that because of this you cannot be suspected cause LOL HE DID IT FIRST. Thats weak as fuck and you know its weak as fuck. You arent new to this so how is that the in defense for you? Also tell me why you KNEW that it was bait to lynch scum but still walked into it in the first place? That literally sounds like discrediting what Slaol attempts to do and we all know that Slaol loves his mindgames.

    The response that Slaols logic isn't fluid doesnt make sense either because literally everyone else was against his idea until you said cool bro me too and he gave you the opportunity to even change your mind but clearly you saw the opportunity to gain a free lynch and stuck to your guns. Thats scummy AS LITERAL FUCK DUDE. We all know that the scum want lynches free and it has been stated multiple times that mislynching is bad and you still were all for a day one lynch on slaol BASED around his logic sucks and it contradicts itself so he must be scum. You need to revisting the idea of what being defensive is because slaol LITERALLY went on the aggressive on you and spammed the hell out of your posts and broke them down and explained why he thought they all were scummy posts. There is so much discredit in what Gerik responds to Slaol with even though the mindset that Slaol was posting in was TOWN AS FUCK can we talk about that for a second. You responded to him saying why you two arent ever on the same team with saying clearly im town lol you must be scum but lets lay devils advocate for a minute. Thats literally a scum tactic dude. Why would town ever actually put themselves in a scum slot to discuss shit? That doesnt actually solve the discussion of him calling you out as scum. It actually dissolves the conversation into a circlejerk.
    [quote-Gerik]Why would you immediately assume we're not on the same team? I'm town, so that would make you scum. But for the sake of argument, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not claiming to be scum and are trying to say that you are town and I'm scum.

    Let's review the facts:

    Fact 1: You suggested that we policy lynch you on the grounds that your role is too powerful in scum hands
    Fact 2: I agreed with said policy lynch
    Fact 3: You then began to accuse me of being scum, as shown here.

    Since you didn't accuse me of being scum until after I reiterated my support of your lynching , we can conclude that you believe support of your lynch to be a scummy position (ignoring for the moment the obvious OMGUS nature of that behavior).
    However, you were the one who originally suggested lynching you, so by that logic you would also be scum. Therein lies the conundrum: If you're town and the suggestion was pro-town, as you claimed, then supporting it should also be seen as pro-town in your eyes. But you see me as scummy for supporting it. This means that either you know it's pro-town and are still actively against it (which would make you scum for opposing a pro-town plan) or you never saw it as a pro-town plan to begin with (which would make you scum for suggesting it).



    I do now.



    It is indeed unfortunate that you are mafia.


    And now, on today's episode of Slaol argues with Slaol (emphasis mine):





    Good news, Slaol. You've been upgraded from 'policy lynch' to #1 Scum read.[/quote]

    This is a summation of what Slaol stood on but you dont actually explain why YOU took up the flag for policy lynching which is also a CLEARLY antitown mindset. We all know why Slaol did what he did but when we read up on your posts in response you dont sufficiently explain what your train of thought was, with exception to responding to slaol being scummy and the conclusions you made on why. We can apply those same arguments to your posts. Slaol literally said that you were twisting the Narrative on his posts to make him scummier than he actually was. You asked me for posts on that and i provided the ones that gave me that thought. But you dismissed them and because my posts didnt seem to give you that read you dismissed the point entirely even though thats literally one of Slaols points about you being scum. lets move on to todays posts.

    Slaol pointed out my shortcomings and you are trying to direct other players onto me and slaol without coming at me directly. Thats a scum tactic JS i literally used it last game. You voted Banshis based on literally bullshit and the train took off so fast that scum are very likely to hop on that dick. You dont provide any other explanation on why you are voting banshis save for pressure and banshis is in the same catagory that SB blink are in but you didnt pressure them even tho they have been slightly more active than banshis and more likely to respond. It literally looks like you are just trying to get more free lynches without actually making decent contributions to the game. What have you even done? respond to a few questions probe a few players make a vote on a pressure train without questions to go behind it (making it seem like pressure isnt the objective for you) discredit slaol. Slaol is actually super right this isnt a game that is being played to the caliber that a dude like you should be bringing it on at.

    Lets see your repose to this I bet fucking money that you try and discredit me too

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Why agree with a policy lynch. It is literally common knowledge that policy lynching is the literal worst thing town can do. But you open fire on Slaol for wanting to policy lynch on his first post and say that because of this you cannot be suspected cause LOL HE DID IT FIRST. Thats weak as fuck and you know its weak as fuck. You arent new to this so how is that the in defense for you? Also tell me why you KNEW that it was bait to lynch scum but still walked into it in the first place? That literally sounds like discrediting what Slaol attempts to do and we all know that Slaol loves his mindgames.

    The response that Slaols logic isn't fluid doesnt make sense either because literally everyone else was against his idea until you said cool bro me too and he gave you the opportunity to even change your mind but clearly you saw the opportunity to gain a free lynch and stuck to your guns. Thats scummy AS LITERAL FUCK DUDE. We all know that the scum want lynches free and it has been stated multiple times that mislynching is bad and you still were all for a day one lynch on slaol BASED around his logic sucks and it contradicts itself so he must be scum. You need to revisting the idea of what being defensive is because slaol LITERALLY went on the aggressive on you and spammed the hell out of your posts and broke them down and explained why he thought they all were scummy posts. There is so much discredit in what Gerik responds to Slaol with even though the mindset that Slaol was posting in was TOWN AS FUCK can we talk about that for a second. You responded to him saying why you two arent ever on the same team with saying clearly im town lol you must be scum but lets lay devils advocate for a minute. Thats literally a scum tactic dude. Why would town ever actually put themselves in a scum slot to discuss shit? That doesnt actually solve the discussion of him calling you out as scum. It actually dissolves the conversation into a circlejerk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik
    Why would you immediately assume we're not on the same team? I'm town, so that would make you scum. But for the sake of argument, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not claiming to be scum and are trying to say that you are town and I'm scum.

    Let's review the facts:

    Fact 1: You suggested that we policy lynch you on the grounds that your role is too powerful in scum hands
    Fact 2: I agreed with said policy lynch
    Fact 3: You then began to accuse me of being scum, as shown here.

    Since you didn't accuse me of being scum until after I reiterated my support of your lynching , we can conclude that you believe support of your lynch to be a scummy position (ignoring for the moment the obvious OMGUS nature of that behavior).
    However, you were the one who originally suggested lynching you, so by that logic you would also be scum. Therein lies the conundrum: If you're town and the suggestion was pro-town, as you claimed, then supporting it should also be seen as pro-town in your eyes. But you see me as scummy for supporting it. This means that either you know it's pro-town and are still actively against it (which would make you scum for opposing a pro-town plan) or you never saw it as a pro-town plan to begin with (which would make you scum for suggesting it).



    I do now.



    It is indeed unfortunate that you are mafia.


    And now, on today's episode of Slaol argues with Slaol (emphasis mine):





    Good news, Slaol. You've been upgraded from 'policy lynch' to #1 Scum read.
    This is a summation of what Slaol stood on but you dont actually explain why YOU took up the flag for policy lynching which is also a CLEARLY antitown mindset. We all know why Slaol did what he did but when we read up on your posts in response you dont sufficiently explain what your train of thought was, with exception to responding to slaol being scummy and the conclusions you made on why. We can apply those same arguments to your posts. Slaol literally said that you were twisting the Narrative on his posts to make him scummier than he actually was. You asked me for posts on that and i provided the ones that gave me that thought. But you dismissed them and because my posts didnt seem to give you that read you dismissed the point entirely even though thats literally one of Slaols points about you being scum. lets move on to todays posts.

    Slaol pointed out my shortcomings and you are trying to direct other players onto me and slaol without coming at me directly. Thats a scum tactic JS i literally used it last game. You voted Banshis based on literally bullshit and the train took off so fast that scum are very likely to hop on that dick. You dont provide any other explanation on why you are voting banshis save for pressure and banshis is in the same catagory that SB blink are in but you didnt pressure them even tho they have been slightly more active than banshis and more likely to respond. It literally looks like you are just trying to get more free lynches without actually making decent contributions to the game. What have you even done? respond to a few questions probe a few players make a vote on a pressure train without questions to go behind it (making it seem like pressure isnt the objective for you) discredit slaol. Slaol is actually super right this isnt a game that is being played to the caliber that a dude like you should be bringing it on at.

    Lets see your repose to this I bet fucking money that you try and discredit me too
    -vote Gerik


    THIS IS A PRESSURE VOTE SIR

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Why do you suggest that the mafia had no better kill than Yayap? Do you really not think that Bus Driver, BG, Doctor, Lookout, sHERIFF, jailor, Vigilante dont have more value than a networker?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Oh, as in he would have killed someone specifically to take their role? I didn't even think about that. Ok, well going through the list:

    Mayor - untargetable
    Doctor - not useful to scum
    Lookout - not useful to scum
    Veteran - immune to mafia kill
    Survivalist - wouldn't actually die + not that useful even if he did
    Vigilante - Good, but can only be used once
    Grave Digger - you are here
    Jailor - some use, but relies on there being a no lynch today, which can't be depended upon
    Escort - Very Desirable
    Networker - some use, but not great for scum
    Bus Driver - very Desirable
    Bodyguard - no good
    Sheriff - no good

    The way I see it, there are only 4 targets he'd really want, with BD & Escort being clearly better than the rest (imo) since they both cause confusion without leaving a trace and are repeatable on a consistent basis.

    While it's true that Networker is not on that list, Yayap is obviously a strong player that mafia knew was working against them, so it's possible that Mike is scum and they simply prioritized eliminating Yayap over bolstering Mike's power.
    Are you really telling me that you did not even try and think about who value targets for mafia are based on role? Almost every single role in this game can be harmful to a scum team and then combined with the players in each slot makes some of those roles even stronger to mafia kills. This chart is very weak. You put very little thought into this post beyond what color should i make my words. If we assume Sheriff is town the mafia 100% want the sheriff to be dead. Assume BG is town OF COURSE mafia want them to be dead. Bus Driver is the literal mafia worst nightmare, He creates so much havoc in the night actins that IM SO SHOCKED THAT SLAOL IS STILL ALIVE LETS BE HONEST HERE. We dont even have to talk about Doctor. Explain this post literally for me please because it is all kinds of terrible.

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Why do you suggest that the mafia had no better kill than Yayap? Do you really not think that Bus Driver, BG, Doctor, Lookout, sHERIFF, jailor, Vigilante dont have more value than a networker?


    Are you really telling me that you did not even try and think about who value targets for mafia are based on role? Almost every single role in this game can be harmful to a scum team and then combined with the players in each slot makes some of those roles even stronger to mafia kills. This chart is very weak. You put very little thought into this post beyond what color should i make my words. If we assume Sheriff is town the mafia 100% want the sheriff to be dead. Assume BG is town OF COURSE mafia want them to be dead. Bus Driver is the literal mafia worst nightmare, He creates so much havoc in the night actins that IM SO SHOCKED THAT SLAOL IS STILL ALIVE LETS BE HONEST HERE. We dont even have to talk about Doctor. Explain this post literally for me please because it is all kinds of terrible.
    TBH i think slaol is still alive because of my wifom, I made it clear he was my townread, and I was going to protect my townread. However I was hoping mafia would have tried to target Naz, I should have known Gerik possibly needed naz alive for his "Doc" gambit to pay off. I wouldn't have protected Yap either way for I had no prior experiences playing with him.
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    TBH i think slaol is still alive because of my wifom, I made it clear he was my townread, and I was going to protect my townread. However I was hoping mafia would have tried to target Naz, I should have known Gerik possibly needed naz alive for his "Doc" gambit to pay off. I wouldn't have protected Yap either way for I had no prior experiences playing with him.
    That doesnt take away from my point. My point didn't need to factor in WIFOM or gambits. Its about the prio that Gerik gave the roles and the weak logic applied

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    That doesnt take away from my point. My point didn't need to factor in WIFOM or gambits. Its about the prio that Gerik gave the roles and the weak logic applied
    I know you have a very valid point and laid it out quite nicely. I agree with you. What benefit would he seek to gain from making that post as town? I cant see any at all lol.
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    -vote Gerik

    I'm also with this. I don't like that Gerik's effective only counter argument to @Slaol 's pressure on him in regards to the policy lynch was that MM also seemed to agree with it. That's not a defense, it's really just a redirect.
    Because MM committed to his night action based on the networker chat, I'm inclined to believe he's town.

    As Slaol said probably 4 dozen times by now, Gerik just knows better than to policy lynch. Day 1 lynches are bad and they should feel bad.

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    Interesting, a creed, MM, Naz 3-some. Why i wasn't involved in that just makes me weep i'd have brought the whip cream. I do agree that details should be divulged but not untill we have heard from everyone.
    Naz brought the Chik-A sauce tho, according to her sig

    Why would you want to be invited in that? Curious here, I don't see what a BG could do with investigatives.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post



    Slaol - I've townread him since day 1. His free flow unrestricted posting, assures me of his townyness. He doesn't appear to be spinning a scum agenda and made some good points early on in SLAOL VS GERIK. After interacting with him myself and seeing him interact with other players it reinforces my townread on him. Naz's green check on SLAOL has nothing to do with my read.

    Damus - I'm sensing a lot of town motivations behind his posts, I've also mind-melded with him a few times. I don't get the scummy vibes that I saw from his play in the last two games that he was scum. He's thinking and interacting with everyone in what I would say a townlike manor.

    Naz- I do think naz is town due to meta reasons only. I think she needs to work on portraying things in a townlike manor. Scum can have a field day painting her based on her posting style/actions. Calling people dumb, and going DURHH DURHHH is ANTI town. If I wasn't using META I would push a Naz lynch 100%.

    Banshis - I'm going to say that I townread him based on how fast his train gained traction and how players have asked for more contribution from him going on 2 days now. I tend to see scum asking for more contribution from low posters often, and they tend to paint it in a scummy light. I feel he's just a low poster and is likley town.

    Mike - I had a slight townread on him day 1. I just feel mikes being genuine. I don't feel he's hiding anything or trying play with his normal "1 level" of wifom. He can be pretty manipulative when he's scum. I'm not talking manipulation twords other people either i'm talking about getting people to falsely read him. Sometimes he's even cocky about it.


    (NuLL)

    SB16- SB16 hasn't contributed to much this game for me to feel like I have a read on him. He hasn't really done anything alignment indicative. And would like to see him post more reads and interact with some other players. I do feel when he's town he is a lot more vocal about players he finds scummy and usually gets into it more with them to further his reads.

    MM - MM pegged me as really towny at first, but after going over some of his posts at during the night I didn't really get the town MM vibe I normally get from him. And the fact he didn't really give a clear read on my alignment or really any explanation on me.




    Gerik - Day one I didn't like him at all. We had a brief interaction that left me with scum vibes from him. I feel him VS Slaol was TVS day 1. Slaols points VS him to I also heavily agreed with. I don't really see him flipping anything but red.

    TheDyingLight - I find him generally just scummy. Moreso from day 1. I do like his interactions with NAZ, I just think they are scum motivated, due to how obviously scummy naz was being. I think potentially rumox jailing him day 1 was a potential scumplay to make eachother seem more towny.

    creed - Creed doesn't feel like town creed to me. In the last game I played with creed and he was town I felt that it was super obvious that he was town just by his general posting style, and the way everything ebb and flowed.(more of a POE scum

    rumox - I feel like rumox is being very very careful. Making sure all of his posts are logical and make sense. his playstyle right now kind of reminds me of distorteds scum style ATM. He doesn't really seem like he wants to push hard anywhere, just wants to agree with the consensus and add intelligent insight. Gives me extremley bad JUJU and i'm not buying it.
    Wow you are good.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
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    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Im actually curious why Mike opened up with soft accusing MM of holding back feedback when Mike was asked a question. There is only so much "Im newbie dont defend well dont meta me bro go ahead lynch me and suffer for it" will take you.
    The fact that MM didn't open up with a vote/start of a train suggests that the person he targeted wasn't Yayap. When they return I am eager to hear who they, seemingly, collaborated to confirm town (them being creed naz and MM).
    I'd appreciate not to have people action-hunting. I will reveal my action and result if I deem it would be useful for the town; if scums try to WIFOM around, we'll catch them. But yes, I did not target Yayap else I would obviously be voting someone into oblivion lol.

    I would like to add that I trust the people who were in the chat enough to trust the results.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    oh boy and here's MM replying to old things with outdated answers lol
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    Mike what's your current reads on Gerik and SB16?
    I am not shure about Gerik. I get the feel of a scum playing town but not worth killing a possible town doc. Sb16 I read d1as scum painting me but I read Yayap as scum painting me even more. And he flipped town. So right now I am not trusting my own reads. Blink I was to trust you. Your read on me was dead on 100% correct. Almost to good and that scares me. I am not going t Ouse my grave digger ability today. Becuse I do not know who to trust. Be wonderful if Naz and Slaol where confirmed town. I know you will scum read me for saying that but it is true. I already know I will be niber1 lych target tomorrow. I am ok with that. Becuse if a power roll dies tonight. Town can’t risk me being scum and talking that role.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I am not shure about Gerik. I get the feel of a scum playing town but not worth killing a possible town doc. Sb16 I read d1as scum painting me but I read Yayap as scum painting me even more. And he flipped town. So right now I am not trusting my own reads. Blink I was to trust you. Your read on me was dead on 100% correct. Almost to good and that scares me. I am not going t Ouse my grave digger ability today. Becuse I do not know who to trust. Be wonderful if Naz and Slaol where confirmed town. I know you will scum read me for saying that but it is true. I already know I will be niber1 lych target tomorrow. I am ok with that. Becuse if a power roll dies tonight. Town can’t risk me being scum and talking that role.
    i'm just gonna say 1 last time i would appreciate a private chat btwn me and slaol tonight to coordinate actions
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by naz View Post
    i'm just gonna say 1 last time i would appreciate a private chat btwn me and slaol tonight to coordinate actions
    i think it would help town if we didn't need to reveal the bus
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by creedkingsx View Post
    -vote Gerik

    I'm also with this. I don't like that Gerik's effective only counter argument to @Slaol 's pressure on him in regards to the policy lynch was that MM also seemed to agree with it. That's not a defense, it's really just a redirect.
    Because MM committed to his night action based on the networker chat, I'm inclined to believe he's town.

    As Slaol said probably 4 dozen times by now, Gerik just knows better than to policy lynch. Day 1 lynches are bad and they should feel bad.
    If THAT is what you took away from my posts yesterday, either you didn't read them or you misunderstood them. Please point out the post(s) in which I justified any of my arguments by saying that MM agreed with them.

    Saying I should "know better because they're bad" is not much of an argument as to why policy lynches are always bad. If you've got something more compelling, I'm all ears. Also, as I've already stated, I had started to get a scum lean on Slaol and wanted to see how he responded. I maintain that his response was poor, and I'm confused as to why no one else seemed to care about it. Though now it appears he is most likely town unless we find out that naz isn't.

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    It refers to when a player scumreads someone solely because that person called them scum. So Mike's reasoning for scumreading anyone in this game, essentially.

    I'm not sure why that's the term for it, though. I've always thought of it as something like "OMG ur scum!", but that seems too stupid to be real, so I'll be disappointed if that's what it is. lol
    Well, you say OMGUS is towny...? Because you were stating that as a balance to night kill analysis, that you deem to be incriminating Mike, at least a bit.

    I mean, I can understand a null read on TDL for low activity, and on Banshis for the same reason (although I don't get the town lean but u say it's gut). But a null read on Mike is really weird, and I think you're afraid of forming reads on people because you're been focused on Slaol only. However, you're not a newbie... I've read Naz results and.... ew. I did scumread Slaol, earlier; but now, knowing that he is town, you just pushing a policy lynch because of his sole role (at first, and then you pushed him for his reaction to it) is scummy, don't you think? @Gerik

    TL;DR : I think you might be scum afraid to make reads on people because you've been so focused on Slaol that you can't get a big picture.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    Please note my town list included Yayap, MM, Naz, and Creed.

    All of which Yayap invited and they felt was a good town sided chat.

    Trust my reads on any level?

    Maybe consider the fucking lynch I wanted yesterday maybe?
    ...I will re-read D1 stuff when I will be caught up and when I'll have time to. For now I just have a FOS on Gerik, would vote but he's at L-3 atm and we're early into D2.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Though thinking about it some more, I suppose this doesn't rule out the possibility that naz is scum alongside Slaol. Did Yayap's plan account for this possibility?
    ...
    -vote Gerik
    Don't hammer yet... but this is seriously vote-worthy.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Well, you say OMGUS is towny...? Because you were stating that as a balance to night kill analysis, that you deem to be incriminating Mike, at least a bit.

    I mean, I can understand a null read on TDL for low activity, and on Banshis for the same reason (although I don't get the town lean but u say it's gut). But a null read on Mike is really weird, and I think you're afraid of forming reads on people because you're been focused on Slaol only. However, you're not a newbie... I've read Naz results and.... ew. I did scumread Slaol, earlier; but now, knowing that he is town, you just pushing a policy lynch because of his sole role (at first, and then you pushed him for his reaction to it) is scummy, don't you think? @Gerik

    TL;DR : I think you might be scum afraid to make reads on people because you've been so focused on Slaol that you can't get a big picture.
    No. At no point have I said OMGus is towny.

    It's true, Mike has made a lot of posts. The thing is, I don't really understand what he's saying half the time. Rules of grammar and spelling are mere suggestions to him. And frankly, I don't know him well enough as a player to determine if his poor logic is just a result of him lacking an understanding of it or if it's intentional manipulation on his part. My guess is that it's the former, which is why I find it difficult to read him.

    The scum team I had in my head yesterday was: Slaol, Damus, Creed, and Yayap. I wasn't completely sure on Creed and Yayap because Yayap is hard to read and Creed didn't take any strong stances. I've been trying to re-evaluate my reads today based on the information that Slaol is likely town.

    So far I've decided that I still think Damus and Creed are mafia and that Creed only went along with Yayap's plan because he it cost him very little (he still got to roleblock a powerful town role) and gave him town cred.

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    lol I'm not about to explain why my own post is scummy, especially when I do not see anything scummy about it.

    But if you want to crucify me for that, go for it.
    It goes beyond that dude. You dont have to "explain why its scummy" but you could support why its NOT instead of needing specific questions you can try to move away from.

    You could post your game solution instead of needing Yayaps.

    You could pick a read and lead on it.

    You're literally ONLY being reactive and its scummy and anti-town.

    Again, here, you need hand holding to even grasp what you should do in basic conversation

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    No. At no point have I said OMGus is towny.

    It's true, Mike has made a lot of posts. The thing is, I don't really understand what he's saying half the time. Rules of grammar and spelling are mere suggestions to him. And frankly, I don't know him well enough as a player to determine if his poor logic is just a result of him lacking an understanding of it or if it's intentional manipulation on his part. My guess is that it's the former, which is why I find it difficult to read him.

    The scum team I had in my head yesterday was: Slaol, Damus, Creed, and Yayap. I wasn't completely sure on Creed and Yayap because Yayap is hard to read and Creed didn't take any strong stances. I've been trying to re-evaluate my reads today based on the information that Slaol is likely town.

    So far I've decided that I still think Damus and Creed are mafia and that Creed only went along with Yayap's plan because he it cost him very little (he still got to roleblock a powerful town role) and gave him town cred.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    null, null, and null leaning town.

    Banshis and TDL haven't said enough for me to get a strong read on them. My slight town lean on Banshis is mostly gut feeling.

    Mike I just can't decide. Day 1 I thought he was just a confused townie, who reacts to pressure with omgus because he doesn't know better. But I can't help but notice that Yayap, the guy who actually wanted to start a vote train on Mike, is the one who was killed last night, which fits with Mike's omgus. Of course, since it's Yayap, I can think of reasons why any scum team would want to kill him, which is why I'm still undecided on Mike's alignment. But I am definitely going to be examining him more closely now.
    But you've implied it.
    You here say that you thought he was a confused townie who reacts to vote with OMGUS.
    But here you oppose the NKA (which you claim to be incriminating towards Mike) to the OMGUS.

    Which makes me think that you're opposing them... I think I might've been too tunneled on Slaol

    Poor logic =/= no intent, it makes the intent OBVIOUS, usually. I personally have doubts on him, but that comes from meta because he once fooled me hardcore, but you say you have no meta on him. If it wasn't for meta I'd read him as town. I didn't read his reply (if it exists) to my question about him wanting to be lynched, earlier.
    I do agree however that @Mike has to stop making typos every three words, it makes his posts hard to read cough cough.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    lol I'm not about to explain why my own post is scummy, especially when I do not see anything scummy about it.

    But if you want to crucify me for that, go for it.
    You've scumpainted Naz out of nowhere just to keep pushing Slaol...

    Also, you could have defended your post... Are you literally admitting that your post is scummy?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by naz View Post
    it's party time now, y'all.
    no last wills so here we go; HERE IS MY list.
    CONFIRMED TOWNS:
    @Yayap is Grandmaster Sensei(Networker)
    [COLOR="#00FF00" @naz is The General(Sheriff)[/COLOR]

    TOWN BASED ON TRUST:
    @Slaol is The Great Magician(Bus Driver)
    @Marshmallow Marshall is Zola(Lookout)
    @creedkingsx is Mags the Mechanic(Escort)

    TOWN BECAUSE I AM TRUSTING U:
    @Gerik is The Queen(Doctor)

    TOWN READS, SUBJECT TO CHANGE:
    @blinkskater is The Goddess(Bodyguard)
    @Mike is Don Lu(Grave Digger) <- if he was mafia, they would have chosen a different role to take advantage of i believe

    4 MAFIAS IN HERE, IF NOT ONE OF THE TWO ABOVE:
    @Stealthbomber16 is Killer Croc(Compulsive Veteran)
    @Banshis is Meerkat Mum(Survivalist)
    @TheDarkestLight is Frida(Vigilante)
    @rumox is Uncle Jalapeno(Jailor)
    @Damus_Graves is The King(Mayor)


    really need to hear rumox's feedback; stealth should be last lynch, no one will visit him anyway.
    down to lynch darkestlgiht, damus, and banshis for sure.
    WAIT A MINUTE. HOW COMES SLAOL ISN'T IN YOUR CONFIRMED TOWN CATEGORY @naz
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by creedkingsx View Post
    Does the (first) M in MFM not stand for major?
    S-FM = Simple Forum Mafia, M-FM = Mini Forum Mafia, FM = Forum Mafia (over 20 players).
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    God damnit MM read lol.

    She didnt know i couldn't swap myself
    But Creeds blocked you and she knows it.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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