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  3. ISO #753

    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    Is this not a meta influenced statement?
    It was a meta influenced prediction. The players have to actually act, which Gerik did. Knowing Gerik better than he knows himself is one thing, but I have raised in thread reasons why he is manipulating the narrative.

  4. ISO #754

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    Also I think it's pretty unfair to tie me at the hip with Gerik in your accusation because I agreed with a single post he made and didn't like how you brushed it off, WHICH you did to me later by saying "if you don't see how blah blah I can't help you" to a post of mine. My push against you is independent of Gerik all together. If people are manipulating the narrative, you're one of them.

  5. ISO #755

  6. ISO #756

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    Also I think it's pretty unfair to tie me at the hip with Gerik in your accusation because I agreed with a single post he made and didn't like how you brushed it off, WHICH you did to me later by saying "if you don't see how blah blah I can't help you" to a post of mine. My push against you is independent of Gerik all together. If people are manipulating the narrative, you're one of them.
    Nope. I could just go quote your posts again. I was high on you and then your accusation was simply worthless. Theres no narrative shift in saying your main point when first asked was "Gerik made a good point", and then didn't touch it again. Your final point was "He should have wanted me to do something else". I am a man of numbers, and my initial reaction was to get you off of Naz more than to put you on SB, but you've never once accused me of buddying with Naz. I recommended an execute on SB because I feel it is palletable for most given his activity, and I wasn't in the mode to push you to Blink. Which you actually haven't followed with any read on Blink. You've used it against me and thought into it 0. Your effort is weak and straw grasping.

  7. ISO #757

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    I don't see anywhere in your post where Gerik has been manipulating the narrative btw. All I read is

    Me Slaol, me say policy lynch good. Gerik agreed with me and voted me? SCUM
    Then you should read the thread. I was very direct about it.

  8. ISO #758

  9. ISO #759

    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    I don't see anywhere in your post where Gerik has been manipulating the narrative btw. All I read is

    Me Slaol, me say policy lynch good. Gerik agreed with me and voted me? SCUM
    This is straight narrative manipulation given I have blatantly said why Gerik was twisting things. Yet you keep talking dude.

  10. ISO #760

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    @Gerik , why am I your #1 scum for thinking you are scum?
    @rumox

    In this post here I just now pointed out Gerik claiming that scum reading someone is not the ONLY reason to see them as scum. Yet his move from "policy lynch" to "Slaol is the #1 scum" was rooted ONLY in my reaction and scum reading of his action. Before that it was just a "TvT policy lynch ok guys", but after that I took an action he specifically said wasn't scummy in itself, and then read it as scummy. Lies. Manipulation. Narrative. IN THREAD FACT

  11. ISO #761

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  15. ISO #765

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    Nope. I could just go quote your posts again. I was high on you and then your accusation was simply worthless. Theres no narrative shift in saying your main point when first asked was "Gerik made a good point", and then didn't touch it again. Your final point was "He should have wanted me to do something else". I am a man of numbers, and my initial reaction was to get you off of Naz more than to put you on SB, but you've never once accused me of buddying with Naz. I recommended an execute on SB because I feel it is palletable for most given his activity, and I wasn't in the mode to push you to Blink. Which you actually haven't followed with any read on Blink. You've used it against me and thought into it 0. Your effort is weak and straw grasping.
    I didn't touch it because it wasn't me that was making the read. I was just making an observation.

    What is this in reference to?

    I mean I figured everyone knew I wasn't going to execute the Sheriff night 1... lol. I just threw her name in there in response to me saying earlier she wasn't doing much posting, that's why I didn't assume you were pulling a vote away from her. I have been pretty vocal about my opinion that you tried to pull the execute away from Blink so to say I am using it against just you isn't accurate.

  16. ISO #766

  17. ISO #767

    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    @rumox

    In this post here I just now pointed out Gerik claiming that scum reading someone is not the ONLY reason to see them as scum. Yet his move from "policy lynch" to "Slaol is the #1 scum" was rooted ONLY in my reaction and scum reading of his action. Before that it was just a "TvT policy lynch ok guys", but after that I took an action he specifically said wasn't scummy in itself, and then read it as scummy. Lies. Manipulation. Narrative. IN THREAD FACT
    This post here is my hurdle to understand you. Are you paraphrasing or are there posts you can directly quote proving this? I know you will just want to say READ THE THREAD but I much rather have the accuser do the leg work. It does have its merits, other than being lazy. It reduces the chance of misunderstanding.

  18. ISO #768

  19. ISO #769

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    Oooookay I'm sleepy as fuck so I'll read those posts tomorrow lol
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
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    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
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  20. ISO #770

    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    This is exactly my obstacle when it comes to making a final read on Mike.
    You all don’t get it. If Slaol was my scum mate I would have voted him up long ago. Not go for a vet. How many times do I need to answer the same question. I am not defending Slaol. I have scum read Slaol all game but it does look like he is solo no one taking his side. The feels townie to me. No one is even trying to redirect off him. And no I am not but a lot of people are redirecting off SB16 who is posible scum. And who is hardly posting. Yet posts as soon as I vote him for the first time (suspect). How the hell os anything I am doing scummy?? Like I said if I was scum I would not vote vet D1 would be stupid as a scum move. How do you vet. Town players not see that blows my mind.
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  21. ISO #771

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    Im just chexking in im still drunk ftom lqstt night i cant really play this rn i will be mmuch mire active day 2 i swear. Lol rumox if u jail md cuz no lynch ur noob as fuck dont lynchnslaol day 1 thats also noob as fuck
    -vote thedyinglight
    this guys scum yall can thank me on monday lol
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

  22. ISO #772

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    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    Im just chexking in im still drunk ftom lqstt night i cant really play this rn i will be mmuch mire active day 2 i swear. Lol rumox if u jail md cuz no lynch ur noob as fuck dont lynchnslaol day 1 thats also noob as fuck
    -vote thedyinglight
    this guys scum yall can thank me on monday lol
    Roflol I am dunk don’t kill em that is newb as fuck . Roflol
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  24. ISO #774

    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    I didn't touch it because it wasn't me that was making the read. I was just making an observation.

    What is this in reference to?

    I mean I figured everyone knew I wasn't going to execute the Sheriff night 1... lol. I just threw her name in there in response to me saying earlier she wasn't doing much posting, that's why I didn't assume you were pulling a vote away from her. I have been pretty vocal about my opinion that you tried to pull the execute away from Blink so to say I am using it against just you isn't accurate.
    The tl;dr is the policy lynch he proposed with backing evidence of its validity was a bait to see if anyone would actually jump on board because having a town sanctioned ez money lynch on Day 1 is a gold mine for any Mafia.

  25. ISO #775

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    Well that was fun to all read. I'll hold my vote where it is until there is more activity garnered from Slaol's big reveal post. I don't fully agree with some of his reads, but I quite agree with a lot of his reasoning so I would like the see the responses of the likes of Yayap, Banshis and Gerik. I'm also curious to see Marshmellow's response to all this.

  26. ISO #776

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    That "mic drop" post was surprisingly informative. But not for reasons Slaol intended.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    Topic 1: The policy lynch
    - The reality is that a policy lynch is a fucking terrible idea, especially when it is over the strongest roles, which I suggested. You’ll notice most players were against a policy lynch. This game is 9 vs 4, which means that for a mislynch day one Town has to get 7 of its 8 voters lynch the 9th, or that Mafia only needs to gather 3 towns. Those numbers mean for a Scum sanctioned lynch we only need to lose 37.5% of the town, but to pull off a mislynch we’d need 87.5% to fail. A mislynch on day 1 is truly a failure of the town, or a signup list for scums. The only reason you might jump on the idea of a town sanctioned lynch is if you were scum and really hoping to get off with a nice numbers advantage: here goes the plan.
    Topic 2: Me as the lynch
    - I have been specifically angling myself as the lynch target all day, for the sole purpose of drawing attention to me and hopefully no one else. Players like Mike or Marshall are not good at defense long terms and I don’t support their defending themselves. Stealth is also hyper low activity and a mislynch on them on day 1 was incredibly likely to occur if a dynamic didn’t shift. If they clearly slipped then they would be good bus targets, shot targets, escort targets, and jail if we don’t lynch, but they were also the easiest to be lynched. I am also a large character, simply on personality, and likely to draw a lot of attention. I said I’d rather be msilynched day 1 instead of executed night 1, and that is incredibly true. If Rumox can pop me he can just shrug it off, but a hammer on my head shows that scum is likely involved.
    Topic 3: The town 3
    - I called for my lynch, and specifically asked. I also decided to seek out the 3 town votes that I needed. I knew Yayap would vote me out of pure Vegeta/Goku rivalry shit, and he did. I buddied him early also to raise his suspicions of me. Marshall I knew I could get to vote me, and push me, by simply pointing out little thngs in his posts and telling him he was scummy. The dude, when town, can not stop himself from OMGUSing to save his fucking life. He did it against a confirmed town in turnabout, dude has no control of it. And Mike I counted on pure RNG because I think hes probably voted everyone about 10 times. There was my 3.
    tl;dr- Slaol says it all... Highlighted in red.

    longer version:

    Slaol claims his plan from the beginning was to propose an anti-town plan and get scum to agree with it so he could find them. However if you read his Topic 3 section which I've highlighted above you'll see that his plan also involved getting town to vote him and he lists all the ways he tried to manipulate them to vote for him. The thing is, if he was town, how would Slaol know who was town in order to seek out their votes with this plan? He started this on page 1 of the game. Yayap and MM were just as likely to be scum as anyone else. Keep in mind he claims that this was his plan from the very beginning and he even cites his early pressure on MM as part of this plan (which started on page 3 of the game). The only way he could possibly know anyone's alignment so early is if he is scum.

  27. ISO #777

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    Well only thing I can come from all this is one fact everyone saying they know me and mm town and me and mm are dumb ass town. So Putting MM in my core town slot. MM any ideas since we the 2 dumb red neck townies. Lol
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  28. ISO #778

    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    I would advise Naz to discuss with him his target, and Rumox to force him to share whats happening in the Jailor chat. Your call though buddy
    I can't tell what you're trying to say in this sentence bc i'm a she..
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
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    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

  29. ISO #779

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    Quote Originally Posted by naz View Post
    I can't tell what you're trying to say in this sentence bc i'm a she..
    He's suggesting to Yayap who to put in his night chat and incorrectly assumed you were a male. He's suggesting Yayap makes a night chat with you to discuss who you're targetting for your night action and with Rumox to discuss Rumox's jailor chat interactions.

    Like 95% of this website is male so it's generally easier to assume people are male than to spend the work of trying to properly write a sentence that's gender ambiguous. If he's incorrect in the male assumption, then all that happens is you correct him and he will adjust his actions appropriately from then on.

  30. ISO #780

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    Quote Originally Posted by creedkingsx View Post
    He's suggesting to Yayap who to put in his night chat and incorrectly assumed you were a male. He's suggesting Yayap makes a night chat with you to discuss who you're targetting for your night action and with Rumox to discuss Rumox's jailor chat interactions.

    Like 95% of this website is male so it's generally easier to assume people are male than to spend the work of trying to properly write a sentence that's gender ambiguous. If he's incorrect in the male assumption, then all that happens is you correct him and he will adjust his actions appropriately from then on.
    The flaw in this is if Slaol is mafia or anyone is mafia in the night chat. It will slow the mafia to control there night actions. So not very pro town to discuss night actions until after actions. Less info mafia has the better for town.
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  31. ISO #781

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    The flaw in this is if Slaol is mafia or anyone is mafia in the night chat. It will slow the mafia to control there night actions. So not very pro town to discuss night actions until after actions. Less info mafia has the better for town.
    That entirely depends on Yayap's decisions and reads. If Yayap (is town) trusts the sheriff and jailor, then it's a good idea. I don't necessarily think Slaol was implying he, himself, should be involved with the night chat.

    Yayap could also entirely choose to put himself with 1 other town read and 2 scum reads in order to do personal interrogations.

  32. ISO #782

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    Quote Originally Posted by creedkingsx View Post
    He's suggesting to Yayap who to put in his night chat and incorrectly assumed you were a male. He's suggesting Yayap makes a night chat with you to discuss who you're targetting for your night action and with Rumox to discuss Rumox's jailor chat interactions.

    Like 95% of this website is male so it's generally easier to assume people are male than to spend the work of trying to properly write a sentence that's gender ambiguous. If he's incorrect in the male assumption, then all that happens is you correct him and he will adjust his actions appropriately from then on.
    Lol ok the second paragraph is unnecessary this is me finally correcting his use of pronouns bc it was starting to get confusing at this point
    Thx 4 mansplaining to my tiny female brain
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    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
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    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

  33. ISO #783

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap View Post
    On my way to work soon, will actually read the day more when I get home after midnight. But I really think this will be a short game to solve, in fact, day 1 I don't really need to analyse any of you, I just need to metaread auckmid. But for now, I'll just leave this here for the above quote... and the fact that I can see auckmid making the bus driver mafia. Later!

    -vote Slaol
    Trying to solve. Town.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerik View Post
    Depends. Are you holding a 3?

    On a more serious note, eliminating the feedback-less bus driver early lets us actually plan out our night actions. Sort of. The problem is that regardless of what chain of night actions we come up with, there will likely be mafia in the mix, and if you are town then you throw a wrench into mafia night actions.



    This post contributes literally nothing.
    Neutral bullshit opinion on a key topic. Scum

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    With that said LOL, First both MM and Naz can't be Scum or this save is 80% maifa win 20% scum win. So MM putting Naz on vote with no Naz posts Is suspect ass all can be. He is acting pro town but putting out main person on the chopping block. and pulling both Bg and Doc off him. and I see people backing MM up so soon. Do we have all our scum posting first?

    Is Shreiff is Town Scums number 1 target would be Sheriff. Remember that town.
    Trying to solve the game, town.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    The Setup

    We know roles. There are three killing roles (Compulsive Veteran, Vigilante, and Jailor), and two of them can actually kill without restriction. So there's a quite big chance the mafia has a killing role in addition to their FK. Which means we must be careful in our lynches (Vigilante loses kill ability if he hits a town, though).

    Good thing is, we have 72h today! Let's not skip, and use them instead.

    Vigilante, if you are town, please be mindful of your shots. Shoot only your HIGH scumreads.

    Since the Doctor is revealed, it's a nice idea to have the Lookout on the Doctor or on the Mayor, and the Doctor on the Lookout or on the Mayor. Or have some WIFOM plays around this that I won't discuss :P

    Council of BigLittlePlanet, the debate is open!
    -vote naz
    Trying to solve, town.

    My gameplan required people show their hands and they did.

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  35. ISO #785

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    This post here is my hurdle to understand you. Are you paraphrasing or are there posts you can directly quote proving this? I know you will just want to say READ THE THREAD but I much rather have the accuser do the leg work. It does have its merits, other than being lazy. It reduces the chance of misunderstanding.
    I literally already fucking quoted them in my big rant and then again here talking to you. Are you actually ignoring this conversation that hard?

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  37. ISO #787

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    "TvT policy lynch ok guys"

    Specifically that part. Because that sounds like a potential scum slip indicating he knows your are town and using the policy lynch as an excuse for the fallout of a dead town.
    Uh.... ya.... thats exactly what he was doing. Its the entire point of my entire plan. Its exactly what is happening lol

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  39. ISO #789

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
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    i uh lost about 3 quotes but it was basically saying mike looked kinda scummy and a gut townread on yayap



    I believe this was rumox's first post of the game and it accurately summed up my feelings at the time, although I do think the bit at the end where he says "I think a Mafia Bus Driver is one of the scariest roles to be up against in this." doesn't add much to the discussion and feels rather fluffy. This post makes me feel uneasy. Chalking it up to a gut read for now but I'll probably reevaluate rumox later (or at least say I'll reevaluate him and then never do it in typical Stealthbomber style)



    That's a strong ass opening post. Bruno style.

    I think it's early to say this but i dunno lets see if it worked lmao



    I actually straight up don't give two shits. If you have a useless mafia member in a TPR spam like this then you should not keep the setup.



    This is turning in a direction that I don't really like. Waving around a vig kill like this diminishes the actual pressure you can apply with it. It is way too early to be threatening to night kill and you've done it twice now. I disapprove.



    Don't think this is alignment indicative but still bullshit. Statistics of hitting a scum are pretty irrelevant since you're not taking into account the fact that we've had < 72 hours to deliberate.



    Oh, look, he said it for me.



    Posts like this annoy the shit out of me. I don't believe MM even posted between your threat and now (although if I'm wrong you can ignore this whole bit) and now it just comes off as scumpainting him because he hasn't had a chance to reply.

    Also, this is why I always announce when I'm going offline. So shit like this doesn't happen. Regardless of my role.



    I agree with blink's thought process.



    Your threats don't carry weight. I can't wait for you to try and threaten me.

    --------THIS MARKS A COMPLETE SHIFT IN MY THINKING BECAUSE MIKE POSTED A BIG WALL OF BULLSHIT



    The way mike sets up this scenario gives me scum vibes for two reasons.
    1. this is the absolute worst case scenario and it just looks like fearmongering to me. why would you run the numbers on this? there are so many wacky circumstances here.
    2. the scenario has the BG protecting from the vig. this actually looks like a genuine slip to me, suggesting a Mike/Blink scumteam. Why would mike run this scenario otherwise? How would he know who the BG targets, etc. It really makes him look bad.

    I think this warrants some more focus on mike although i do currently read blink as town so I'm skeptical yet. but as of this point i am really not liking mike



    And my second biggest scumread agrees with me.

    There's definitely a scum between one of 'em. Dunno who yet but that's who I'm setting up right now. One of these two. I'm predicting that they're going to never reference their scumreads on each other again after around page 9.



    im sorry what



    This post is completely irrelevant and it's a good light hearted shitpost.

    So why did I quote it?

    Because the post 2 posts above it is blink's #360.

    (this post)


    Why is this relevant?

    Because slaol has made it absolutely known that he scumreads people for saying they leave. He's done it for multiple games now and even included it in a shitpost in a non FM thread. So why did he not call this out yet? At this point in time, I see slaol being inconsistent, I see mike being scummy, and I see blink being the link between them. I can absolutely see Slaol bussing mike for the first 24h. If blink makes some scummy posts I'm fairly certain this would be our scum core.



    Jesus christ mike

    this is a scum for meta reasons but bruh this is absolutely what he did in chicago and turnabout as evil neut both times.



    HEY NO YOU DO NOT GET TO TAKE SOLE CREDIT FOR THAT



    think of the memes



    you're a good player you just get toxic sometimes
    we all do but you're a bit too much for my taste

    you're actually one of the batch of players from your "generation" that i was really okay with tbh. better you than arsonist or rachyl or some shit



    This is going to sound very stupid, but do you really think a scum would be that balls to the wall dumb in their opening impressions of the game? I'm not saying I townread MM, he's actually null for me at the moment but like dude. that's like, claiming godfather levels of dumbassery and I dunno if MM would do that as scum.

    Then again I literally did claim cult leader in a game I won as cult leader so i dont fuckin know

    You can feel my brain deteriorating

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    shut the fuck up



    shut the fuck up




    also read as "hey i see something scummy anyone else want to point it out"?

    This is a loaded point and feels like a setup to either burn a townie or boost a scummate and kind of makes me feel a slaol scumread.



    it isn't



    my zelda gsp is like 12k because i lost 5 games on release night and then a bunch of people got the game and my gsp didnt rise to meet the bloat



    this post didn't age well



    Oh my god you're actually just unironically playing bad at this point. Does anyone actually believe this shit? I don't time my entrances with pressure. I don't time my entrances with someone saying I'm scum. I don't time my entrances with MM. I've been mislynched over this before. Nobody learns!



    But meanwhile, you're creating confusion. Reread the post under my thought shift.



    Dude fuck this low quality bait it hasn't worked on anyone stop trying



    On that note: no.




    He's either town or scum. This really narrows it down, Mike. Excellent work. Read your posts over before you post them please.



    All 3 of my posts suggest I'm scum. Fuckin' sweet. This reminds me of that one time someone said "I'll quit the site if Stealthbomber16 is town."

    His name was Spruance. He's gone now.

    Being bad at the game creates some hilarious moments.


    I've reached the point where I'm really just shitposting so I'm going to stop for now.

    TL;DR: I read TDL as scum until about page 7 where Mike made a big ass scum slip that made me see him as scum alongside slaol and possibly blink. That is where my reads currently lie, with a Mike/Slaol scum core and blink as a highly possible 3rd member. As such, I'm going to place my (admittedly highly irrelevant) vote on mike for the time being.

    -vote Mike


    I'd also like to apologize for my inactivity earlier. it was a big mix of me playing smash ultimate too much and just genuinely being busy. If someone reminds me, I'll share a video of what I was doing today postgame. Don't want to do it now as it would probably ride the borderline of the FM rules. I'll definitely be around more tomorrow where I'll read the rest of #612-#Now.
    Uuuuhhh I didn't see the spoiler time to read

    That's fucking FAT post. Wallposts are good to make something on ONE matter, like a case or an ISO... not an entire catch up, we can't even quote it without getting instant headaches.

    I don't think that the Mike post is that scummy tbh. Having the worst case scenario laid out, even if unlikely, proves that we need to be careful with out lynches.
    However, I won't say he's God almighty either lol. Just town.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  40. ISO #790

  41. ISO #791

    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap View Post
    Still waiting Slaol... been almost 3 hours since you said you were preparing the enlightenment. Didn't think I would let you off the hook soo soon did you?
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Wtf, is that serious? FOS on stealth lol "I played smash ultimate too much" proceeds to just read something that doesn't help the game for shit and goes off

    Stealth goes down into the scumreads
    I think both of those posts are irrelevant now lol
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  42. ISO #792

  43. ISO #793

  44. ISO #794

    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    MM who do you townread?
    TDL, Yayap,

    Rumox, Mike,

    and maybe naz and creeds.

    Stealth is very slightly above null, too.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  45. ISO #795

    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Mike - Stealth looks TvT. They are both tunneled and throw rocks at eachother, and discrediting eachother and themselves by scumpainting NAI stuff (posting after someone votes you, saying someone is either town or scum, stating the worst case scenario, basing stuff on TDL's threats on him (Mike) without realizing he has threatened a lot of people here, etc.)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  46. ISO #796

    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    I don't see where Gerik manipulated the narrative. Plus, policy lynch is a very large word. Policy lynches don't suck IMO; but that's not alignment indicative, that's just our opinions on game theory lol. What Gerik is saying is that a scum bus driver without any feedback to bussed players, in this setup, is very dangerous, and he's right. He could absolutely fuck up the investigative leads, the vigi kills, basically everything.

    Now, with Slaol's big post. The question is: Would Slaol pull a scum gambit like this, just to then say it was all his masterplan (Which includes giving fake reads and scumpainting, by the way...) to get reads?
    What would he gain from it? Well, he'd gain a nice chance of survival, he'd gain confusion factor (Which was already pointed out by Gerik, and that is very true), also a really, REALLY big WIFOM for his scummates, a potential high town status as a very powerful scum role, and probably some mislynches into the mix.
    Now as town, what would he gain from it?
    A way to have global reads, application of meta, and that's it. At the cost of a metric fuckton of confusion, spotlight dragging, and giving WIFOM to scums by giving them scenarios to which they can conform or not to manipulate reads.

    I think the scum side of it is bigger. Gerik is a null read for me because his posts work as any alignments; however, Slaol's reaction to those is not towny at all. If Slaol flips scum, I will have Gerik as a very high town read. In the event he'd somehow flip town, Gerik needs to be looked at more closely.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  47. ISO #797

    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Uuuuhhh I didn't see the spoiler time to read

    That's fucking FAT post. Wallposts are good to make something on ONE matter, like a case or an ISO... not an entire catch up, we can't even quote it without getting instant headaches.

    I don't think that the Mike post is that scummy tbh. Having the worst case scenario laid out, even if unlikely, proves that we need to be careful with out lynches.
    However, I won't say he's God almighty either lol. Just town.
    No. You don’t see what he went through in the worst case scenario though.

    1. TDL was threatening to shoot him at the time.
    2. Blink has said he would protect his highest townread.

    Why does mike think that’s him? Blink hasn’t really interacted with Mike almost all game. What reason does blink have to protect mike? This post shows that mike thinks blink would protect him or you. Meaning that either he’s scum or he thinks you’re scum with blink. And he doesn’t think the latter.

    Mike refuses to address this, instead responding to 1/4 of my posts.

    Also, time to address this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    1. If I weren't tired I'd literally go grab you links to 3 different games that I can immediately think of where people scumread me for this reason when I was town. Get a better reason.

    2. I don't need to discredit and scum paint you. You're scum and as a bonus nugget your meta backs it up. You discredit yourself by saying things like


    3. You push to lynch me because I appear as low hanging fruit due to inactivity. Easy day 1 mislynch if I don't come back. The suspicion is already fading off of you if I do. It appears as a very low risk play. But you forget something. I am no mere mortal. I am a fruit. If I were to say that my inactivity thus far was entirely to bait a scum, would you believe me?

    4. Oh yeah damn you found the mafia killing who kills all the many people who visit him at night. The confirmed mafia killing in the entirely randomized setup.

    You're grasping for straws and it's not working.
    In this post I included a class=hidden line of text saying
    i'd be lying. this bit of the post is just to see if mike actually reads
    He did not address it. He didn’t reference it.

    Mike does not review his posts. This is just utterly antitown, even if it isn’t scummy. It shows he doesn’t spend time thinking about what he’s saying. Call me a discreditor all you want, IMO this is nigh irrefutable proof that mike isn’t trying his hardest to dispute me. If you feel like jumping to conclusions, you can also say that he is doing so because he knows I’m town and he’s scum and that building a lynch is going to be hard.

    Think on what I’ve said. Mike is almost certainly scum and if not he’s definitely not putting everything into this game.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

  48. ISO #798

  49. ISO #799

    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    If Slaol flips scum, I will look into Yayap more closely, and into Creeds, Naz and Banshis. Yayap - him could very well be SvS (even though I'm not sold on this at all, I townread Yayap). Slaol didn't interact with Creeds or Naz; yet they did post, could be something there. And he said he scumread Banshis, yet only addressed him once, in his wallpost.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  50. ISO #800

    Re: S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    If Slaol flips scum, I will look into Yayap more closely, and into Creeds, Naz and Banshis. Yayap - him could very well be SvS (even though I'm not sold on this at all, I townread Yayap). Slaol didn't interact with Creeds or Naz; yet they did post, could be something there. And he said he scumread Banshis, yet only addressed him once, in his wallpost.
    I did intreract with Naz and Creed, but you don't read game threads so you know fuck all that's going on. and Banshis can pretty much only be addressed once given his low contributions.

 

 

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