S-FM 265: Illuminati

[Marshmallow Marshall]

WELP don't buy it if you don't want to, but we have a gamesolving plan atm and I'm not getting lynched for now so I buy that you're town now anyway. This setup is mindfucking me so hard ;-; I will need some normal setups next....

[DJarJar]

I don't think it's a dumb mistake... it just confirms it's not Distorted lol. I'd see MM, blink or aamirus openly outing that there are Illuminati.

Lmfao U can hate me but you can’t call me stupid

[Distorted]

im actually starting to think mag is illuminati and they came up with a plan and didnt consider the potential negative part that aamirus just pointed out..... lol

something about what is being said in a random mason chat just doesnt make sense lol

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I don't think it's a dumb mistake... it just confirms it's not Distorted lol. I'd see MM, blink or aamirus openly outing that there are Illuminati.

I don't see Blink or myself do that... like really, do you have such a low opinion of us lol??? And Aamirus well IDK she didn't play enough for me to say something about it, but she's not stupid either so I'd say not... and there's a difference between outing there is illuminati and outing the entire illuminati strategy and actions, mag. I think you just outed YOURSELF xD

[Ganelon]

im actually starting to think mag is illuminati and they came up with a plan and didnt consider the potential negative part that aamirus just pointed out..... lol

something about what is being said in a random mason chat just doesnt make sense lol

And why would I out that lol. It makes no sense to do that as Illuminati.

[DJarJar]

she was wanting to lynch u even EoD yesterday. everyone wants to lynch you today lol and she did have a scum reads on u D1. at least openly compared your scum meta, which i even stated scum meta. and I talked about how adding "thats NAI" at the end doesnt make it NAI.

Your meta was so far off this game i still do not believe ur town.

I mean this is really irrelevant but it annoys me you keep saying I compared his scum meta and then called it NAI. For Fucks Sake. No I said he does this every game and it’s NAI. Not he only does this when he’s scum. Read my ducking post or else stop misquoting me this is like the 10th time

And YES I did scum read him but NOT for the roleclaim shit!!!!

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Wait what am I thinking it’s MM saying it

XD yep

[Ganelon]

im actually starting to think mag is illuminati and they came up with a plan and didnt consider the potential negative part that aamirus just pointed out..... lol

something about what is being said in a random mason chat just doesnt make sense lol

The only reason I can even imagine Illuminati would do is for the Mafia to out themselves.

[DJarJar]

@Marshmallow Marshall do you confirm

Have you STILL not read the setup? There is no feedback

[Marshmallow Marshall]

And why would I out that lol. It makes no sense to do that as Illuminati.

Because of a setup misunderstanding... and you seem to be fighting for your survival while it is not good for town in any way. You're getting lynched anyway, it's just for the pleasure of finding you out before your flip xD

[Ganelon]

Have you STILL not read the setup? There is no feedback

I already knew that, I just wanted to see what MM would say.

[Distorted]

And why would I out that lol. It makes no sense to do that as Illuminati.

it makes perfect sense if you dont think of the plan aamirus just thoguht of. U even said "I out illuminati now im getting voted" it confused u (which is fine), but if u were illuminati it shows u didnt think of it. thus, making it a great idea. Why lynch the dude who reveals illuminati? sounds good on paper, big flaw in practice.

[Ganelon]

Because of a setup misunderstanding... and you seem to be fighting for your survival while it is not good for town in any way. You're getting lynched anyway, it's just for the pleasure of finding you out before your flip xD

Nah I'm not getting lynched today unless I can talk after death tomorrow. And I can't.

[DJarJar]

I said it was towniest thing UNTIL WE KNEW OR WERE QUITE CONVINCED ILLUMINATI WERE IN THE GAME. Which happened. And look: we have illuminati. And which illuminati would be pushing all game long, to the point of being scumread for it, that Illuminati exist and that we must search for them??? WHICH???? It would be a pro-Mafia strategy if you don't want to see me as town. Yet Illuminati exist, so I'm Non-Illuminati whatever you think I am....

Well that’s WIFOM. If you already knew Illuminati exist it could be a strategy to get town read to be the one who was right along about it. Heck then it would even make sense to “accidentally” reveal in mason chat

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Also I ain't replying to your posts about my bad play @Distorted because I can only scumpaint myself, make more tunneling, and that's anti town.

and maybe too because it's ashaming...

[DJarJar]

Well that’s WIFOM. If you already knew Illuminati exist it could be a strategy to get town read to be the one who was right along about it. Heck then it would even make sense to “accidentally” reveal in mason chat

*right all along*

[Ganelon]

it makes perfect sense if you dont think of the plan aamirus just thoguht of. U even said "I out illuminati now im getting voted" it confused u (which is fine), but if u were illuminati it shows u didnt think of it. thus, making it a great idea. Why lynch the dude who reveals illuminati? sounds good on paper, big flaw in practice.

YES but think about it why would Illuminati reveal that there are Illuminati? Honestly I don't think it would be too hard to push you for being "Illuminati" at this point and just say I screwed up following you day1. I'm pushing blinkskater and aamirus lol, and aside from what's happened today there's NOTHING to suggest they are Illuminati.

[DJarJar]

Escort/consort gives no notification, and I'm citizen therefore I don't have a night action. Therefore... IDK.

What the shit u just went from cit to innocent child to cit!

[Distorted]

But the 1 thing that makes me believe mag is mason, is he claimed SOLO mason. that would be such a ballsy claim that early in the setup. unless he turned into mason, used the ability and saw there were no other masons?

@naz if infiltrator became mason, would he:

1) be able to talk in their chat (just verifying)

and

2) be able to see if there are other masons?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Well that’s WIFOM. If you already knew Illuminati exist it could be a strategy to get town read to be the one who was right along about it. Heck then it would even make sense to “accidentally” reveal in mason chat

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

GET IN THE LAKE OF FIRE YOU STUPID WIFOMER REPROBATE!!

[Ganelon]

What the shit u just went from cit to innocent child to cit!

Yeah I think you're pushing this WAY too hard, MM's IC claim was clearly meant as a joke.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Nah I'm not getting lynched today unless I can talk after death tomorrow. And I can't.

??? uh YES you are lynched today.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Yeah I think you're pushing this WAY too hard, MM's IC claim was clearly meant as a joke.

it's sarcasm i believe

[Ganelon]

But the 1 thing that makes me believe mag is mason, is he claimed SOLO mason. that would be such a ballsy claim that early in the setup. unless he turned into mason, used the ability and saw there were no other masons?

@naz if infiltrator became mason, would he:

1) be able to talk in their chat (just verifying)

and

2) be able to see if there are other masons?

I personally received no feedback that there were any "new" Masons. Someone just randomly started talking in my chat.

[DJarJar]

So, according to aamirus, MM is at least not Grand Wizard/Godfather.

Consort roleblock goes before escort roleblock so it’s entirely possible for him to be godfather if I was roleblocked (which, if he is godfather, would make sense since I openly claimed escort and was highly likely to role block him)

[Distorted]

Also I ain't replying to your posts about my bad play @Distorted because I can only scumpaint myself, make more tunneling, and that's anti town.

and maybe too because it's ashaming...

eh well i think we have a solid plan for the rest of the game anyways. im down to run with this. its simple, effective, and wont take up too much time while we start the MU game lol

[Ganelon]

Shall I reveal what is happening?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

eh well i think we have a solid plan for the rest of the game anyways. im down to run with this. its simple, effective, and wont take up too much time while we start the MU game lol

Yep exactly xD I think we won this, despite having played... questionably...

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Shall I reveal what is happening?

.............yes you shall reveal if anything WEIRD is happening............. like fucking immediatly........................................ ...... AAAAAA

[Distorted]

Nah I'm not getting lynched today unless I can talk after death tomorrow. And I can't.

u wont need to talk dude.

the plan is this:

You get lynched, u flip mason. confirms illuminati (even if u are infiltrator).

You flip any other role, pretty much confirms illuminati. since if u flip mafia, 2 other mafia will reveal and say u werent original, OR u flip town and theres 0 town reason to do what u did and hold to it, so we assume ur illuminati.

You HAVE to be the lynch today. literally guarantees a town win (almost)

[Ganelon]

I am indeed solo-mason, but nobody spoke in my chat. I wanted to see who would the most eager to lynch me because Mafia would 99% LYNCH ME and then reveal and start open-wolfing. Aamirus outed in two posts that that was a potential strategy as town, which is why I'm pushing for an aamirus Lynch today. If you out that, and even say that my strategy post was edited and my night feedback was weird, you are not town. You are Mafia.

[DJarJar]

Shall I reveal what is happening?

Yes I’d love to hear why I seem to be Illuminati confirmed in your eyes and why you’re now saying you won’t be lynched today

[Marshmallow Marshall]

u wont need to talk dude.

the plan is this:

You get lynched, u flip mason. confirms illuminati (even if u are infiltrator).

You flip any other role, pretty much confirms illuminati. since if u flip mafia, 2 other mafia will reveal and say u werent original, OR u flip town and theres 0 town reason to do what u did and hold to it, so we assume ur illuminati.

You HAVE to be the lynch today. literally guarantees a town win (almost)

Exactly.

[DJarJar]

I am indeed solo-mason, but nobody spoke in my chat. I wanted to see who would the most eager to lynch me because Mafia would 99% LYNCH ME and then reveal and start open-wolfing. Aamirus outed in two posts that that was a potential strategy as town, which is why I'm pushing for an aamirus Lynch today. If you out that, and even say that my strategy post was edited and my night feedback was weird, you are not town. You are Mafia.

If you actually read my posts I already suggested you would do this to save yourself lol.

[Ganelon]

If you actually read my posts I already suggested you would do this to save yourself lol.

Yep, it's a bad spot to place myself in :/ but your outing that is even worse, it makes it so I have to be the Lynch today. Pretty convenient if you're mafia I say.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I am indeed solo-mason, but nobody spoke in my chat. I wanted to see who would the most eager to lynch me because Mafia would 99% LYNCH ME and then reveal and start open-wolfing. Aamirus outed in two posts that that was a potential strategy as town, which is why I'm pushing for an aamirus Lynch today. If you out that, and even say that my strategy post was edited and my night feedback was weird, you are not town. You are Mafia.

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@blinkskater Tell me, why did you say you could nearly guarantee that the Mafia kill was redirected? How could you possibly know this as VIgilante?

[Distorted]

I am indeed solo-mason, but nobody spoke in my chat. I wanted to see who would the most eager to lynch me because Mafia would 99% LYNCH ME and then reveal and start open-wolfing. Aamirus outed in two posts that that was a potential strategy as town, which is why I'm pushing for an aamirus Lynch today. If you out that, and even say that my strategy post was edited and my night feedback was weird, you are not town. You are Mafia.

ur post was edited... check ur first post of the day. and u literally just said the exact plan lol did u drop hints early for this?

[Ganelon]

If I somehow end up getting lynched, blinkskater should shoot aamirus tonight and someone should role block her. Unless of course blink is mafia with aamirus, just as he claimed d1.

[Ganelon]

ur post was edited... check ur first post of the day. and u literally just said the exact plan lol did u drop hints early for this?

My post was edited because I quoted the initial day post, where Varnic's role had been revealed by accident.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

If you actually read my posts I already suggested you would do this to save yourself lol.

YEP XD and it was part of the "dont talk about it because it's not pro town", but I didn't even say it because it would not have been pro town to QUOTE it.....

[DJarJar]

Yep, it's a bad spot to place myself in :/ but your outing that is even worse, it makes it so I have to be the Lynch today. Pretty convenient if you're mafia I say.

It’s also literally a nearly guaranteed strat to win the game as town your dumbo. It makes mafia happy sure but it makes town just as happy. Your reasoning and “trap” suck ass

[Ganelon]

ur post was edited... check ur first post of the day. and u literally just said the exact plan lol did u drop hints early for this?

I vaguely dropped some hints when I still voted for MM and asked him to reveal.

[Ganelon]

It’s also literally a nearly guaranteed strat to win the game as town your dumbo. It makes mafia happy sure but it makes town just as happy. Your reasoning and “trap” suck ass

WHY WOULD OUT THAT IT'S A POTENTIAL STRATEGY. YOU OUT IT AFTER I'M DEAD.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

WHY WOULD OUT THAT IT'S A POTENTIAL STRATEGY. YOU OUT IT AFTER I'M DEAD.

Aamirus hates that "don't out strategies". Just as she hates when we post a lot. NOW I BELIEVE SHE UNDERSTANDS WHY SOME THINGS ARE NOT PRO TOWN TO DISCUSS...

[Marshmallow Marshall]

-vote Magoroth

I don't buy it lol.

[DJarJar]

WHY WOULD OUT THAT IT'S A POTENTIAL STRATEGY. YOU OUT IT AFTER I'M DEAD.

Because it’s not a strategy it’s a way to try and give urself town points for “having a strategy”. Explain why ONLY a mafia is eager to confirm Illuminati exist by lynching you and therefore how your “strategy” catches mafia instead of just any intelligent player from either the town or mafia?

[Distorted]

If I somehow end up getting lynched, blinkskater should shoot aamirus tonight and someone should role block her. Unless of course blink is mafia with aamirus, just as he claimed d1.

actually, this i can believe. since htey were both heavily open wolfing it actually makes sense lol. i gtg but dont lynch mag yet. this may actually have truth to it. i dunno im tired i need to think on this tomorrow though - i know ill have a lot of reading to wake up to lol

[DJarJar]

Aamirus hates that "don't out strategies". Just as she hates when we post a lot. NOW I BELIEVE SHE UNDERSTANDS WHY SOME THINGS ARE NOT PRO TOWN TO DISCUSS...

I hate it because it would never work. Ever. Nobody would ever have been dumb enough to claim mafia. He did waste about 3 hours of my life making posts about confirming the existence of the Illuminati and winning the game and now we’re back to square one

[Ganelon]

Because it’s not a strategy it’s a way to try and give urself town points for “having a strategy”. Explain why ONLY a mafia is eager to confirm Illuminati exist by lynching you and therefore how your “strategy” catches mafia instead of just any intelligent player from either the town or mafia?

Nah it's not just a Mafia that's eager to Lynch me, it's also Town. But Town would NOT be outing that strategy so early on.

[Ganelon]

I hate it because it would never work. Ever. Nobody would ever have been dumb enough to claim mafia. He did waste about 3 hours of my life making posts about confirming the existence of the Illuminati and winning the game and now we’re back to square one

Just like nobody would ever be dumb enough to claim Illuminati? Why gamble? And it's. not as if they have 'to claim' being mafia - I thought psychoanalysis was your thing. Nah, you're Mafia.