S-FM 240: Instant Mafia IV

[PowersThatBe]

Wow, I don't like your face right now.

What's wrong with my face

Did you just call me ugly?

[PowersThatBe]

You're very forthcoming with information and helpful tips. Have you played in one of these instant mafia games before? What was your role and what did you do to help lead to a successful scenario?

I have not played instant mafia.

However, since it was pitched to me as a game to help newer players scum hunt and really relying on day interactions, I figured that would be my role this game. To help town scum hunt, and hopefully "train" some future sc2mafia FM players.

And really this came about because I have a 4 day weekend ^.6

[Marshmallow Marshall]

see teal and yellow points above

Gotta love the "put at least 2 charcters" huh?

About the juicy hypocrisy... Rawr. I am just trying to change my playstyle. And you're very aggressive. I am not OVERLY concerned about this, we just keep talking about it because it feeds the discussion ^^ else it'd be a dead game.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

What's wrong with my face

Did you just call me ugly?

^.6 is ugly. Not you IRL. Unless your avatar is your IRL. ;)

[Aardvarks Bark]

How have you created successful Day 1's in the past?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Good morning! Just caught up. Need to go walk my dog, but am neglecting her for this right now LOL..(bad mom..)

Nawa still hasn't posted yet??? How am I supposed to confirm the noobie sheriff?! Also, you're acting kinda fishy with those posts MM...

Everyone's been posting lots of long blocks of text..y'all throwing me for a loop. I'm probably gonna have to reread this thread several times................

Tell me where's the fish, then! Calling people fishy when you just shut up and stay vague in your posts isn't that much protown.

[PowersThatBe]

Gotta love the "put at least 2 charcters" huh?

About the juicy hypocrisy... Rawr. I am just trying to change my playstyle. And you're very aggressive. I am not OVERLY concerned about this, we just keep talking about it because it feeds the discussion ^^ else it'd be a dead game.

I am overly aggressive. You should see me in bed

Unless you're under age 18.

Then get back to me :P

[Aardvarks Bark]

How have you created successful Day 1's in the past?

@PowersThatBe

[PowersThatBe]

How have you created successful Day 1's in the past?

I assume this is directed at me.

Typically for me. What I like to utilize is different types of reaction testing.

For example. You know SCVmuderer? Well, I got in a very vicious round of back and forth with him, as a means to put his back up against a wall and put myself in the dominant position. I did this in two fold reasons. 1. I wanted to see where he would buckle and where he would fight back. 2. I wanted him to become a viable easy lynch target to the rest of the town to see who would jump on his train asap. I.e. Low hanging fruit. (scum will utilize low hanging fruit to get easy ML's). This was successful a tiny bit because it got him to shut down, (he was scum). And it allowed me to focus on a second thing I utilize from time to time.

It's a list of 6ish questions. It's called an RQS or RQP (Random Question Survey, or Random Question Phase) in which I ask certain things to gauge different things. Scv actually used it in the last instant mafia game. A couple of the questions are designed to create a psychological break within you. For example the question: "What role/faction do you like to play in mafia?" Some people will answer in a way that attempts to get the reader to see them as town. For example, Nawa that game answered something like "town ofc" which really piqued my interest. He said "ofc" meaning OF COURSE I love being town, because I am town, and you should only read me as town. This little tidbit allowed me to hone in on him, and compare that whole "towny" thing to other aspects of his day one play, which allowed me to successfully lead a lynch on him, and he was SK.

Also, might I add, we had two trains that day, 1 on sk and 1 on a mafia scum member.

For me and really for everyone, day 1 is really a good day to see people's personalities. I typically find those who push a lot on day 1 and are super active in asking questions, leading discussion, and pointing out things, typically are town. Those who try to lurk, or only be active for short periods of time, often times turn out to be scum. Now, unfortunately this site has a lurker problem with a lot of the players, and that alignment split with lurkers tends to be off as of late because we have people who join games and are town and just never participate.

[PowersThatBe]

^.6 is ugly. Not you IRL. Unless your avatar is your IRL. ;)

thats my go to :9 its winking.

[Mesk514]

Queen is here

[naz]

Tell me where's the fish, then! Calling people fishy when you just shut up and stay vague in your posts isn't that much protown.

Ahh, it may have been PTB that I'm fishy of! Sorry! I'll find it and post more later...My fiance just came over, I'll be back later.

[PowersThatBe]

Good morning! Just caught up. Need to go walk my dog, but am neglecting her for this right now LOL..(bad mom..)

Nawa still hasn't posted yet??? How am I supposed to confirm the noobie sheriff?! Also, you're acting kinda fishy with those posts MM...

Everyone's been posting lots of long blocks of text..y'all throwing me for a loop. I'm probably gonna have to reread this thread several times................

Lol what is fishy about MM?

You should defintely "read" the thread

Is this your first FM game?

[PowersThatBe]

Ahh, it may have been PTB that I'm fishy of! Sorry! I'll find it and post more later...My fiance just came over, I'll be back later.

So you know i go by ptb, well at least you read that much... So it's either me or mm you're fishy of, but you're not sure? Interesting.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I am overly aggressive. You should see me in bed

Unless you're under age 18.

Then get back to me :P

...?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Ahh, it may have been PTB that I'm fishy of! Sorry! I'll find it and post more later...My fiance just came over, I'll be back later.

what does that mean...

[Nawa]

Guess what? Donki butts
I am back and gonna answer everything.

First of all, i am Citizen.
Finger-pointing at someone hoping he won't be a Mayor or Mason is just silly, so i can say i believe blink.

[Stealthbomber16]

How have you created successful Day 1's in the past?

Read through S-FM Undercover, where PTB correctly pegged, and lynched the Serial Killer (Nawa) on day 1.

Guess what? Donki butts
I am back and gonna answer everything.

First of all, i am Citizen.
Finger-pointing at someone hoping he won't be a Mayor or Mason is just silly, so i can say i believe blink.

This is what I'm talking about here. MM didn't think this through.
also nawa this first post is scummy

that was sarcasm don't take it seriously

[Nawa]

Read through S-FM Undercover, where PTB correctly pegged, and lynched the Serial Killer (Nawa) on day 1.



This is what I'm talking about here. MM didn't think this through.
also nawa this first post is scummy

that was sarcasm don't take it seriously

So you and PTB think that Blinkskater can be a Mafia, but thought of the highlighted message, and MM thinks Blinkskater cannot be Mafia, but didn't think of the highlighted message?
Where is logic?

[PowersThatBe]

Read through S-FM Undercover, where PTB correctly pegged, and lynched the Serial Killer (Nawa) on day 1.



This is what I'm talking about here. MM didn't think this through.
also nawa this first post is scummy

that was sarcasm don't take it seriously

professor sb16 out here giving reading assignments.

[blinkskater]

Thank you, I'm blink btw, I believe this is our first time meeting?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

So you and PTB think that Blinkskater can be a Mafia, but thought of the highlighted message, and MM thinks Blinkskater cannot be Mafia, but didn't think of the highlighted message?
Where is logic?

I don't say blink CAN'T be mafia, I say it's less likely.

[PowersThatBe]

I don't say blink CAN'T be mafia, I say it's less likely.

Why is it "less likely?"

Why isn't it possible for Nawa and Blink to be a scum team?

[PowersThatBe]

Why is it "less likely?"

Why isn't it possible for Nawa and Blink to be a scum team?

Also, not accusing, I just want to know MM's rationale.

[Mesk514]

PTB has taken town leader in such an aggro form. For someone who claimed Citizen, there's no actual scum hunting... More harping.


To claim blink could potentially be scum is quite the scape goat imo, I mean, he's blink, he's a nub, hasn't played a FM yet and throwing shade on the mod players is always the way to go.

I don't like stealths opening, kinda seemed like he was trying to coach someone into claiming a tpr... hmm

[PowersThatBe]

PTB has taken town leader in such an aggro form. For someone who claimed Citizen, there's no actual scum hunting... More harping.


To claim blink could potentially be scum is quite the scape goat imo, I mean, he's blink, he's a nub, hasn't played a FM yet and throwing shade on the mod players is always the way to go.

I don't like stealths opening, kinda seemed like he was trying to coach someone into claiming a tpr... hmm

I take town leader every game I play. What's curious to me is that you typically sheep me. This game you're trying to put a lot of attention on me...which is weird.

Perhaps, you're not town this game? You haven't really posted anything, and what you have posted is....eh. Not pro-town at all.


The notion that someone could or couldn't be a certain alignment based on where they came from is ridiculous.

I am not accusing anyone of being or not being scum. I'm simply stating that it is POSSIBLE for them to be scum, and let's not just go SHEEPING them.

A healthy bit of skepticism is not anti town.

Wha'ts anti town is coming in here pointing fingers and disappearing.

Mesk if you're so prooooo town whats your role then?

[blinkskater]

So we got some citizen claims, I'd love to know how many possible cits there could be
blink
nawa

[Stealthbomber16]

PTB has taken town leader in such an aggro form. For someone who claimed Citizen, there's no actual scum hunting... More harping.


To claim blink could potentially be scum is quite the scape goat imo, I mean, he's blink, he's a nub, hasn't played a FM yet and throwing shade on the mod players is always the way to go.

I don't like stealths opening, kinda seemed like he was trying to coach someone into claiming a tpr... hmm

That was actually not at all what I was trying to do.
I was attempting to shed light on the fact that MM said something that is extremely incorrect is attempting to maybe put himself and/or nawa in a more towny read.

[Mesk514]

I'm actually not a Citizen. I'm a solo Mason.

[PowersThatBe]

I'm actually not a Citizen. I'm a solo Mason.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BULLSHIT.

I'm mason and I have a teammate.

[PowersThatBe]

#citizenbait2k17 worked.

[Mesk514]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BULLSHIT.

I'm mason and I have a teammate.

Masons can't confirm to each other who they are... sooo

[Mesk514]

I can openly claim Mason, cause I have no partner.

[PowersThatBe]

Masons can't confirm to each other who they are... sooo

Exactly, but I know I have a teammate.

So your role card said you're a solo mason?

You run this section and you reasonably expect all of us to believe that you'd hire someone who would have such an imbalanced/fucked set up to have a SOLO mason in the game without any night action or ability to recruit a citizen? So why not make that solo mason a citizen? Why not claim citizen?

Exactly, because you don't wanna give up your teammate and seem more like a scum duo.

I'm Mason 1 in our private chat. My teammate is Mason 2.

We can reveal to each other in day chat, but not in our private chat.

Nice try mesk.

[PowersThatBe]

I can openly claim Mason, cause I have no partner.

We're not HOST confirmed to each other, read the set up girlfriend. We're allowed to confirm to town.

Host cant provide us with our teammate.

Suck on that you liar.

[PowersThatBe]

Mason: They share an active private chat but are not host confirmed to etchother

[Mesk514]

Exactly, but I know I have a teammate.

So your role card said you're a solo mason?

You run this section and you reasonably expect all of us to believe that you'd hire someone who would have such an imbalanced/fucked set up to have a SOLO mason in the game without any night action or ability to recruit a citizen? So why not make that solo mason a citizen? Why not claim citizen?

Exactly, because you don't wanna give up your teammate and seem more like a scum duo.

I'm Mason 1 in our private chat. My teammate is Mason 2.

We can reveal to each other in day chat, but not in our private chat.

Nice try mesk.

uh no. just no. there's one mason exactly for this reason. so scum can cc


as a side bit, in last game masons were not allowed to claim openly

[PowersThatBe]

hence MASON 1 and MASON 2.

I told my teammate I was gonna reveal in day chat.


Thats why I asked if there could be sheriff and citi and masons. Seems like theres no mayor.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Lol what is fishy about MM?

You should defintely "read" the thread

Is this your first FM game?

His (or her?) second game, the other was the 3rd instant mafia game. Naz has been very very veryyyy silent in that one.

[PowersThatBe]

uh no. just no. there's one mason exactly for this reason. so scum can cc


as a side bit, in last game masons were not allowed to claim openly

Host never said we couldn't claim openly, and as I remember, you hosted last game but you're not host this game.

Different hosts = different rules.

[Mesk514]

Anyone who's used QT before knows that they're not assigned names. There's no one here that would go along with naming themselves Mason 2 if you called yourself Mason 1.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Why is it "less likely?"

Why isn't it possible for Nawa and Blink to be a scum team?

When did I say that?!!!! I don't think a new player would do such a move in the first posts of the game. However, Nawa could be directing him. I do not exclude this possibility. But one thing is 100% sure: Blink is Sheriff or Mafia and Nawa is Citizen or Mafia.

[PowersThatBe]

uh no. just no. there's one mason exactly for this reason. so scum can cc


as a side bit, in last game masons were not allowed to claim openly

LOL so they put 1 mason in to "cc" mason claims, but yet all of a sudden you can claim but no one could claim before?

Host confirmed means host does not send us our teammates in a pm therefore completely confirming.

We're also not allowed to ask each other's names in the private chat.

We can do it in day chat from my understanding

[Mesk514]

Host never said we couldn't claim openly, and as I remember, you hosted last game but you're not host this game.

Different hosts = different rules.

same setup, same shit.

[PowersThatBe]

Anyone who's used QT before knows that they're not assigned names. There's no one here that would go along with naming themselves Mason 2 if you called yourself Mason 1.

it was in our pm instructions.

I was told i was mason 1 and to use Mason 1 as my name.

Try again. Liar.

Well, gg we have our fucking scum boys and girls

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I take town leader every game I play. What's curious to me is that you typically sheep me. This game you're trying to put a lot of attention on me...which is weird.

Perhaps, you're not town this game? You haven't really posted anything, and what you have posted is....eh. Not pro-town at all.


The notion that someone could or couldn't be a certain alignment based on where they came from is ridiculous.

I am not accusing anyone of being or not being scum. I'm simply stating that it is POSSIBLE for them to be scum, and let's not just go SHEEPING them.

A healthy bit of skepticism is not anti town.

Wha'ts anti town is coming in here pointing fingers and disappearing.

Mesk if you're so prooooo town whats your role then?

She already claimed citizen. But "claims don't mean shit u morons" so yeah, shes not citizen.

[Mesk514]

Hey guys, now would be a good time to use your first claim first serve rule LOL

[Marshmallow Marshall]

So we got some citizen claims, I'd love to know how many possible cits there could be
blink
nawa

error error error you're cit now????

[Mesk514]

So you're soft claiming Mayor? lol

Ive been feeling very beginners game meskish given all the noobs and alcohol

I claimed I was a solo mason yesterday.

I am a glorified citizen.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

So we got some citizen claims, I'd love to know how many possible cits there could be
blink
nawa

Btw you can add me to the cit claims list.