S-FM The Cold War III

[blinkskater]

tbf ftr you should hammer in a setup like this if there's truly no other options because your read might be wrong and keeping that heavily scumread player alive will only stop the game progressing. THAT isn't the scummy aspect of Unknown's play, at all.

I disagree wholeheartedly like I said before you don't hammer someone you're almost sure that's town in this game playing as town you trust your gut and your reads

[Dunna]

-vote Unknown1234

You deserve it for the statement of yours, I won't hold on for more.

[blinkskater]

Didn't think I'd need to spell it out but @Unknown1234 @blinkskater



Generally you respond to someone when they pile shade on your ass, rather than meekly hoping they forget what you said.

If you think Unknowns interactions and mine are "staged" lets lynch unknown then. And get to the bottom of this.

[blinkskater]

-vote Unknown1234

You deserve it for the statement of yours, I won't hold on for more.

Why fake vote? Do you even know how to vote?

[Dunna]

I do, but I just dont care to cast a vote lmao, I'll let them get me.

[blinkskater]

unknown took mm off L1a when I was screaming to hammer him he was the one who single-handedly stopped the train,not me like he says. he's completely full of shit for future reference when you try to scum paint somebody use facts, then twist the intentions on them don't make shit up and then try to paint it as scum it doesn't work that way

[yzb25]

I disagree wholeheartedly like I said before you don't hammer someone you're almost sure that's town in this game playing as town you trust your gut and your reads

That's fair enough, but I myself have been in that exact position and hammered my townreads, as have others. It's not the black and white scenario you're painting it as.

If you think Unknowns interactions and mine are "staged" lets lynch unknown then. And get to the bottom of this.

As of now, my feelings are something like this:

30% chance you and Unknown are both scum
30% chance you are scum but Unknown isn't
30% chance Unknown is scum and you aren't
10% chance neither of you are scum.

I'm feeling confident at least one of you is scum, because the scum are doing fancy ambitious shit like heat rbing n1 to try and hit TPRs and Mago's play has magically gone from needing a "gud town" to piggyback on every 10 secs to actually thinking for himself (and the chaos/confusion factor has been dialed back massively, even if today has been less intense). It reads like one of the "good players" like you or unk were coaching him last night, which would make sense bc both of you were reluctant to lynch him yesterday.

[TheGodDavid]

@TheGodDavid dude it's been 2 in-game days you gotta be able to produce something for each person, as someone who seems to have read at least most of the game. Today hasn't even been that busy so you've got no excuse.

Town -----------
Fielzanks: hardclaimed Trotsky with no counterclaims

yzb25: Feels like a townie to me, took the time to read what he missed and gave us his opinions.

Unknown: I'm inclined to believe that Unknown is town because he saw the same thing about me on rumox. (That is why I did not join the rumox train for I had a feeling rumox was a citizen)

Neutral ------------
Dunna: Not much to say about Dunna, but he is leaning towards town for me (I believe he's the same as me)

Aamirus: Unsure of what he could be.

Blinkskater: Blink is an experienced player, so I'm really not confident to be certain in if he is scum or not.

Lenneth: I feel the same as yzb when it comes to Lenneth that he's either a non-informed role such as town or SK

Scum ---------
Magoroth: My two scum reads in D1 were MM and Magoroth and I already had said why.

Marshmallow Marshall: Same as above but I hesitated to join the train on him because of the (fake?) BG claim

[blinkskater]

Also why is nobody talking about a roleclaim hm? One TPR dead. One TPR claimed (MM)PSS.Trotsky (Fielz) Lenin will have no choice but to claim cit, and IMO there is a TOWN TPR to scared to CC MM right now we could easily solve this with a roleclaim.fielz has 2 vests so lenin doesnt need to be on him, so if you are a town TPR you can safely reveal IMO

[yzb25]

A lynch of Unk or Blink would be a risk taken to try and lop off the head of the scum. I'm not sure how I feel about lynching either of them but it's a decent idea.

[blinkskater]

That's fair enough, but I myself have been in that exact position and hammered my townreads, as have others. It's not the black and white scenario you're painting it as.



As of now, my feelings are something like this:

30% chance you and Unknown are both scum
30% chance you are scum but Unknown isn't
30% chance Unknown is scum and you aren't
10% chance neither of you are scum.

I'm feeling confident at least one of you is scum, because the scum are doing fancy ambitious shit like heat rbing n1 to try and hit TPRs and Mago's play has magically gone from needing a "gud town" to piggyback on every 10 secs to actually thinking for himself (and the chaos/confusion factor has been dialed back massively, even if today has been less intense). It reads like one of the "good players" like you or unk were coaching him last night, which would make sense bc both of you were reluctant to lynch him yesterday.

According to Unknown and Mag im a trash tier player. What do you think?

[blinkskater]

Also why is nobody talking about a roleclaim hm? One TPR dead. One TPR claimed (MM)PSS.Trotsky (Fielz) Lenin will have no choice but to claim cit, and IMO there is a TOWN TPR to scared to CC MM right now we could easily solve this with a roleclaim.fielz has 2 vests so lenin doesnt need to be on him, so if you are a town TPR you can safely reveal IMO

Only scum and lenin would avoid a role claim at this point based on the 2 roles in the graveyard

[yzb25]

Also why is nobody talking about a roleclaim hm? One TPR dead. One TPR claimed (MM)PSS.Trotsky (Fielz) Lenin will have no choice but to claim cit, and IMO there is a TOWN TPR to scared to CC MM right now we could easily solve this with a roleclaim.fielz has 2 vests so lenin doesnt need to be on him, so if you are a town TPR you can safely reveal IMO

This is a decent idea, but it'd basically be ensuring Fielz dies after d3 because scum would definitely hit Lenin tonight and could probably guess who Lenin chose to construct with. Also

LENIN, MIGHT BE STATING THE OBVIOUS, BUT DO NOT CHOOSE FIELZ - BECAUSE THEN THE HEAL WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAL FIELZ XDDD

[Ganelon]

Also why is nobody talking about a roleclaim hm? One TPR dead. One TPR claimed (MM)PSS.Trotsky (Fielz) Lenin will have no choice but to claim cit, and IMO there is a TOWN TPR to scared to CC MM right now we could easily solve this with a roleclaim.fielz has 2 vests so lenin doesnt need to be on him, so if you are a town TPR you can safely reveal IMO

I fully agree with this idea.

[yzb25]

According to Unknown and Mag im a trash tier player. What do you think?

Lol they're wrong you're clearly intelligent.

[Ganelon]

According to Unknown and Mag im a trash tier player. What do you think?

Nah dude I don't think you're trash I was just responding to your insults

[Ganelon]

Town -----------
Fielzanks: hardclaimed Trotsky with no counterclaims

yzb25: Feels like a townie to me, took the time to read what he missed and gave us his opinions.

Unknown: I'm inclined to believe that Unknown is town because he saw the same thing about me on rumox. (That is why I did not join the rumox train for I had a feeling rumox was a citizen)

Neutral ------------
Dunna: Not much to say about Dunna, but he is leaning towards town for me (I believe he's the same as me)

Aamirus: Unsure of what he could be.

Blinkskater: Blink is an experienced player, so I'm really not confident to be certain in if he is scum or not.

Lenneth: I feel the same as yzb when it comes to Lenneth that he's either a non-informed role such as town or SK

Scum ---------
Magoroth: My two scum reads in D1 were MM and Magoroth and I already had said why.

Marshmallow Marshall: Same as above but I hesitated to join the train on him because of the (fake?) BG claim

What the hell even are those reads lol

[blinkskater]

This is a decent idea, but it'd basically be ensuring Fielz dies after d3 because scum would definitely hit Lenin tonight and could probably guess who Lenin chose to construct with. Also

LENIN, MIGHT BE STATING THE OBVIOUS, BUT DO NOT CHOOSE FIELZ - BECAUSE THEN THE HEAL WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAL FIELZ XDDD

How can they hit lenin, lenin will obviously not claim thats hes lenin, make sense?

[TheGodDavid]

What the hell even are those reads lol

good question

[blinkskater]

Lol they're wrong you're clearly intelligent.

Wish i was as smart as fielzanks. Mr 1000 IQ

[yzb25]

How can they hit lenin, lenin will obviously not claim thats hes lenin, make sense?

Ah, understood.

I silently agreed others should come forward, but I'm worried you stating this is giving scum ideas.

[Lenneth]

Town -----------
Fielzanks: hardclaimed Trotsky with no counterclaims

yzb25: Feels like a townie to me, took the time to read what he missed and gave us his opinions.

Unknown: I'm inclined to believe that Unknown is town because he saw the same thing about me on rumox. (That is why I did not join the rumox train for I had a feeling rumox was a citizen)

Neutral ------------
Dunna: Not much to say about Dunna, but he is leaning towards town for me (I believe he's the same as me)

Aamirus: Unsure of what he could be.

Blinkskater: Blink is an experienced player, so I'm really not confident to be certain in if he is scum or not.

Lenneth: I feel the same as yzb when it comes to Lenneth that he's either a non-informed role such as town or SK

Scum ---------
Magoroth: My two scum reads in D1 were MM and Magoroth and I already had said why.

Marshmallow Marshall: Same as above but I hesitated to join the train on him because of the (fake?) BG claim

It's funny because I had the exact same opinion about rumox that unknown and I said it mutiple times but I am in the neutral and he is in the town side :P
Except that, I have the feeling your read are mostly what most people think.

[Ganelon]

good question

@blinskater what do you think of David?
Reminds me noz's playstyle in Witch tbh

[Ganelon]

@blinskater what do you think of David?
Reminds me noz's playstyle in Witch tbh

@blinkskater

[blinkskater]

Ah, understood.

I silently agreed others should come forward, but I'm worried you stating this is giving scum ideas.

Well they cant converse about it so i at least feel good about that although it was probally discussed last night

[yzb25]

It's funny because I had the exact same opinion about rumox that unknown and I said it mutiple times but I am in the neutral and he is in the town side :P
Except that, I have the feeling your read are mostly what most people think.

No need to be jelly Lenny I've also got David pegged as a potential neut.

[blinkskater]

@blinkskater

I think he needs to just spotaniously combust and not aign up for another FM ro put it kindly.

[Ganelon]

Question:
Should Trotsky or Jailor kill tonight?

[Ganelon]

Question:
Should Trotsky or Jailor kill tonight?

I'm asking for a friend

[blinkskater]

This is the shit that i cant stand from you and your posting of every god damn thought that runs through your scatter brain

[yzb25]

I'm asking for a friend

you're actually the worst.

[yzb25]

you're actually the worst.

this is exactly what I was talking about btw blink T_T

[TheGodDavid]

No need to be jelly Lenny I've also got David pegged as a potential neut.

you think im a potential neut?

[yzb25]

you think im a potential neut?

That's right bro, the yzb thought process is SAVAGE and MERCILESS.

[blinkskater]

this is exactly what I was talking about btw blink T_T

All throught day one wad driving me nuts i literally stopped reading his posts O_O

[yzb25]

All throught day one wad driving me nuts i literally stopped reading his posts O_O

same

[Lenneth]

you think im a potential neut?

are you surprised?

[TheGodDavid]

are you surprised?

umm sure?

[Fielzanks]

Also why is nobody talking about a roleclaim hm? One TPR dead. One TPR claimed (MM)PSS.Trotsky (Fielz) Lenin will have no choice but to claim cit, and IMO there is a TOWN TPR to scared to CC MM right now we could easily solve this with a roleclaim.fielz has 2 vests so lenin doesnt need to be on him, so if you are a town TPR you can safely reveal IMO

I am strongly against roleclaim.

[yzb25]

I am strongly against roleclaim.

psssh this is your only contribution?

Susp =P

[Fielzanks]

Wish i was as smart as fielzanks. Mr 1000 IQ

Too smart for my own good

[Dunna]

Yeah I can't compherend the intellectual power of his, it's just too bright.

[Fielzanks]

psssh this is your only contribution?

Susp =P

Nah I'm still gathering my ideas to explain them thorougly, but something is really bothering me. I feel like Blink is the top contender for the scum slot, and honestly slotting him with unknown feels extremely right. I clearly like your methodological view and analysis about all that; but something don't feel right. I hate missing something and here clearly a piece of the picture is isnt here.

[blinkskater]

Nah I'm still gathering my ideas to explain them thorougly, but something is really bothering me. I feel like Blink is the top contender for the scum slot, and honestly slotting him with unknown feels extremely right. I clearly like your methodological view and analysis about all that; but something don't feel right. I hate missing something and here clearly a piece of the picture is isnt here.

Interesting very interesting @Fielzanks make sure you actually read my posts amd dont just skip over them and theres no way that you can twist words making a roleclaim seem bad (from a town perspective.)

[Lenneth]

Nah I'm still gathering my ideas to explain them thorougly, but something is really bothering me. I feel like Blink is the top contender for the scum slot, and honestly slotting him with unknown feels extremely right. I clearly like your methodological view and analysis about all that; but something don't feel right. I hate missing something and here clearly a piece of the picture is isnt here.

maybe because some people are afks? :P

[yzb25]

Nah I'm still gathering my ideas to explain them thorougly, but something is really bothering me. I feel like Blink is the top contender for the scum slot, and honestly slotting him with unknown feels extremely right. I clearly like your methodological view and analysis about all that; but something don't feel right. I hate missing something and here clearly a piece of the picture is isnt here.

Well we've still got over 24 hours, so I'm sure it'll be figured out =D

[Lenneth]

what is the purpose of roleclaiming?
excluding Lenin who should not claim tpr, there is only one tpr.
so we will have a shitload of shitizens no?

[yzb25]

what is the purpose of roleclaiming?
excluding Lenin who should not claim tpr, there is only one tpr.
so we will have a shitload of shitizens no?

The discourse has moved on, and I think Blink agrees with me and Fielz. Don't sweat it.

[Lenneth]

oh ok !

[blinkskater]

what is the purpose of roleclaiming?
excluding Lenin who should not claim tpr, there is only one tpr.
so we will have a shitload of shitizens no?

We could possibly get a CC on the TPR role and if we didnt it would confirm MM as not scum which imo would be huge.