S-FM 240: Instant Mafia IV

[Nawa]

I thought everything was pointed out right now. I made my post and why is that i cannot be mafia with you.

Do not forget that there are 2 scum and no one except me has yet defended Mesk514 and i cannot be mafia unless Blinkskater is a gamethrowing moron which is false.

[Mesk514]

I didn't see your posts until just now.

there's a huge issue when you're AFK and you've had the most sense out of everyone (minus blink)

[Nawa]

I didn't see your posts until just now.

there's a huge issue when you're AFK and you've had the most sense out of everyone (minus blink)

You don't need to make sense to have a brain

[Mesk514]

You don't need to make sense to have a brain

you don't need to have a brain to tell the truth

[Mesk514]

another ISO coming

[Mesk514]

continuation of mesks first in depth ISO

Heres more PTB fluff, flatter and contradictions.. Don't be fooled by the post amount folks, this is no way no how, how ptb plays as town. Absolute 0 content but weak shade and compelling about host meta and jacking it with MM. Literally nothing really warranted more than a 2 line response. it's all bullshit LOL


Summarized quotes: 67. ptb casts shade based on host meta and claiming i don’t know how private chats work

68. PTB claims i was baiting, yet i only claimed after he basically questioning the fuck outta my role. He had no reason to ask my role when he state multiple times I was soft claiming Mayor

70. PTB instills pre flip associations. My teammate must be not doing anything because i claimed mason, and they wanna stay away from me, or we wanted diversity. This is not a viable reason. This is an extremely anti town way of thinking

71. ptb claims it would be dumb for scum to cc. but as he stated many times this game, it’s all about having BIG BALLS

73. PTB once again mentions the fact I’m an admin. there’s no warrant for this at all. just cause i’m an admin doesn’t mean i don’t have a life. Post rate has nothing to do with alignment. at all.

77. ptb claims how he would act if he wasn’t scum… completely false given he’s scum here.

78. logic fail on ptbs part. ptb claimed the my scum partner is veering far away from me, but then asks why if mm was his partner, why didn’t mm claim mason with him. LOL

80. 2 posts later, supposedly now my “teammate” can’t claim cause I’ve dug a hole so big. yet two posts ago he was making comments about how my teammate claimed citizen. why would my “teammate” (who i dont have”) claim mason now after I’ve been attacked senselessly for claiming my real role lol.

100 post analysis - more fluff and flattery ladies and gentleman. not only has he used host meta and the fact i am an admin as a reason to push, he still tries to teach MM how to play and contributes nothing else. Literally between posts 62 and 100, theres little to no substance. took me about 20 minutes to go through it all

103. ptb makes it seem like theres 0 way for their to be 1 mason. this is not correct. it i possible and it’s happening

Spoiler : quotes and commentary :

63.

claiming town leader then posting nothing and leaving is not claiming solo mason LOL, are you fucked in the head?

no but claiming citizen, then claiming glorified is like the same thing. duh

64.

Oh someone is nervous.

quoting a post that happened to be under the post i wanted/needed shows nothing. useless shade


65.

I never called u a moron. Why are u so angry with me. I was legitimately trying to help you.

more like trying to tell you how to play

Spoiler : quotes and commentary :

66.

You said you're glorified and then left. WOW. Such town, Musch not scum at all.

If anyone buys this bullshit, I'll quit fm's forever.

yes, a glorified citizen. aka solo mason. much common sense from you. much wow.

67.

Ohhh I'm scum now? Interesting, says the person claiming authoritarian power to "confirm yourself."

I find it super hard to believe Ice would run a solo mason in the game at all. And since you have no idea about the private chat set up, and your bullshit antics, I'm gonna go with a hardd confirm that you're the scum.

yes i claimed to be townleader, THE REAL TOWNLEADER. ptb couldn't let me get in his way. again, PTB uses host meta before i even really said anything about host stuff. I also organize the private chats for games, i know exactly how they work lol. useless shade

68.

or you know, another citizen.

So you're admitting that you're trying to use WIFOM to confuse everyone?

So it's clear to me you're scum trying to bait everyone.

there's no motivation for me to bait anyone. i popped in and out cause i was drunk. i have and always will feel the need to put little to no effort into a game unless push comes to shove. I only claimed when PTB tried to take over the game by leading it off of pure NOTHING

69.

Is caps lock the new pro town font?

Petty as fuck shade.

70.

Exactly, honestly, they probably claimed one cit (or not at all) and thought they'd diversify their claims by claiming a solo mason to throw everyone. Instilling pre flip associations in others is totally anti town. because x is happening y must be happening

Mesk was probably banking on the sheriff claim to back her up. only thing is, blink is backing me the fuck up. he was voting you before he voted me.

Well if anything this confirms Nawa and Blink to be town in my eyes.

Mesk is scum and we only need 1 lynch to win.

71.

So you mean to tell everyone that the scum ccing your claim would have to be a real IDIOT. If that was the intention, and you think ME, PTB, is DUMB enough as a scum player to just cc a mason claim. well with your own words, scum would have big balls. LOL that being yourself... hows that for flattery?

Especially when as a scum I'd have no idea if you were actually solo mason, or really just a mason baiting and having a teammate follow up later. But since i'm mason, and I DO have a teammate (as the set up fucking states). If i had a partner, it would just be 2v2 instead of 1v2. no difference whatsoever whether you knew i was a solo mason or not

Basically it'd be dumb for scum to cc your solo mason claim as you could have a second mason in waiting to confirm that this was the plan you guys came up with. And all that bullshit you're spouting is funny.again, the theme of this game is balls..big balls.

72.

So I'm a moron now? Wow mesk, rough day?

this wasn't even directed at ptb, but he couldn't resist throwing the shade. MM is a moron so.

73.

I flattered myself? Oh is that what you call actively PARTICIPATING IN the game? You're fucking FM admin and you posted like what 5 posts since game opened YESTERDAY.

Scummy scum scum.

again, mentioning my status again! i was drunk, big whoop. I still did everything I did every other town game.

74.

And you expect people to follow a bullshit solo mason claim? Are you kidding me?

well not MM no, he's a moron.

75.

Oh yea, like you said "wifom reasons." Man if you were town it would be really dumb to claim solo mason. IF THAT WAS EVEN POSSIBLE. Just claim citizen.

There's no fucking way he'd ever put a solo mason.

more and more host meta. even telling me what i should have claimed. I claimed the truth, unlike him. not my fault he picked sucha ballsy CC

76.

WOW that appeal to emotion.

Seriously, did you even read helz guide?

You are the scummiest scum in scumistory.

More and more teaching. why the hell would i appeal to someone who has the worst track record of misquoting over the stupidest reasons. MM is no one i give a fuck about at all. he is brutal and terrible to play with.

77.

So again, you Mesk, who know me, are saying that I PTB would be DUMB enough to CC a mason claim as scum knowing you could be lying about being solo and actually have a teammate waiting to cc, stating the full plan to do something like this?

Exactly, if I were scum I would not fucking cc a claim. I'd blend in non-TPR claims. So, yeah good job on the attempt at trying to sneak in the mason claim or force a cc against the real MASONS. Thats TWO masons.

Fucking bullshit ass claims.

i never once said you were dumb. you got balls. the one thing you kept saying was important to have this game. also theres no proof you would claim a non tpr given you were never in a game as scum like this. so to tell people this is how you'd act is irrelevant and wrong.

78.

Oh now MM is my teammate. So if we were scum team, why didn't he claim mason and back me up? Dumb logic mesk. DOESNT MAKE SENSE.

for the same reason my supposed scum partner didn't cc me right? logic failed. 0 logic here.

79.

Exactly. Lynch mesk and lets fucking win this shit town.

Look boys and girls, I found another scum by the end of day 1.

more shitty ass flattery

80.

Look at you contradicting yourself already.

"he put this in for wifom reasons."
"there's no reason for me to openly claim."
"Trust me i'm mesk."


Once again, it'd be INCREDIBLY dumb for scum to CC a solo mason claim, knowing such a thing would be fucking stupid. And not practical. It would only cause the scum team to put themselves on the lynch box. When the "solo mason." Could EASILY have a teammate waiting to jump in and say "Actually mesk is confirmed mason because I'm her teammate and we came up with this plan to catch the scum team."

Please this ploy is so obvious. I'd never fall for that trap as scum.

Now your teammate cant claim because you've dug yourself into this solo mason hole. Your only hope is to get enough people to believe you over me.

Dumb play. Ballsy scum play, but dumb.

2 post later, my "scummate" can't claim with me. because between those two posts, i supposedly dug a hole so deep.

81.

HAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHA

82.

I mean shes clearly trying to use "town" frustration and anger to convince people.

But no you got that right.

PTB buddying with MM the town idiot, again

83.

I mean yeah it was dumb of you to do it. But what is that occam's razor (a scientific and philosophical rule that entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily which is interpreted as requiring that the simplest of competing theories be preferred to the more complex or that explanations of unknown phenomena be sought first in terms of known quantities.)

"It would be too dumb for me as scum to claim solo mason, so therefore I MUST BE TOWN."

This follow's Occam's razor because of the too stupid to be truth so it has to be true method of thought.

I.e. WIFOM.

useless post of words that don't lead to a valid point whatsoever, he couldn't just say "too stupid to be scum doesn't mean you're town" he had to try and be smart

84.

Wow you're really winning them over.

petty shade

85.

ftfy

derp.

86.

All she can do at this point.

Any other claim would reveal her bullshit.

This is what she wanted.

more appealing to MM, cause that's his best bet.

87.

OH NOW UR A CITIZEN?

STOP THE PRESSES


Next she'll claim solo mayor but she's not allowed to reveal because "WIFOM"

PTB doesn't get what a glorified citizen means, also, not claiming revealing as mayor would be throwing. petty shade.

88.

No I'm not manipulating him. He's OBVIOUSLY my scummate.

he's not your teammate, but at least PTB was being honest here about manipulating the fuck outta him. i would too, he's too easy to manipulate.

89.

wow now you're gonna run people away from the site? I don't think that's going to build this community.

yikes.

harping on how i chose to build the community. nothing game related at all.

90.

hey hey hey stop repeating my lines from undercover!

flattery lol

91.

LOL stop you're gonna fuel this scummate theory the SOLO mason is pushing.

in my life, I've never seen such a stupid claim by scum.

cocky fuck, irony is he's the scum and I'm the solo mason

92.

UM wasn't the whole point of this game to build up weaker/newer players?

says the dude who literally has done none of that, instead tell people HOW to play the game based on their agenda.

93.

@Mesk514 at least your scummate cant be on your train or else they'll be throwing. So that's a plus right?

mentions me to be a general asshate, also flaunting he's got a teammate that will vote with him

94.

timezones bro.

ya MM, PTB is your bro

95.

You forgot the SOLO.

role card said i didn't have a teammate, not that i was a solo mason. duh

96.

I played 2 games with MM before this. I don't even know 75% of the people in this game LOL. Nice try though.

exactly why he feels comfortable coaching and buddying with MM, he knows how dumb he is.

97.

no but forreal is caps lock like the new believe me I'm town font?

yup

98.

Readlist:

TOWN:

Blink (obvious reasons)
Nawa (obvious reasons)
MM (OBVIOUSLY HE'S MY SCUMMATE DUH YOU GUYS.)
SB16: Consistent with towny sb16, been pushing reads and trying to forward a town agenda. Only problem is he kinda gave Mesk an alibi with the whole TPR CC thing.) yes, sb gave me an alibi. he knew that at the time of the events i was out jacking it -.-

NULL:

Aardvarkbarks (just not enough there yet)
Naz (same not contributing enough) if it was such a shoe in to confirm each other, why do you have her as null?

SCUM:

Mesk -- for fake claiming solo mason and ccing my role. No reason a town would do this whatsoever. But i did do it, and I'm gonna have you lynched!

99.

wow so now you're insulting me too. So am I a manipulator or am I ABSOLUTELY DUMB?

again, flattering himself. I was talking to MM and he automatically responds assuming i'm chatting with him

100.

Oh yea, let me pull up a little quote.




https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post701600


Town mesk = first come first serve is NOT VALID.

Scum Mesk= I CLAIMED FIRST I'M TOWN.

girl bye. your explanations are as tired as your font.

another misrepresentation of what I said. He counter claimed me, I didn't counter claim him. That was my point. it had nothing to do with first come first serve.

101.

if MM was my actual mason teammate i'm sure he would have claimed by now.

I'm being sarcastic when I say he's my "teammate" because mesk accused us of being scum.

I accused MM of being dumb or scum. I mean, there's only two options in this game

102.

Right so now its out of context. Is your claim counter to my claim? Or do you believe both to be true?

It's impossible for them both to be true.

I definitely claimed second that's for sure, and my claim is counter to your claim, but your claim is also counter to my claim. Therein lies the fact that we're each counter claiming each other.

Look at you trying to redefine counter claiming to fit your narrative that you're town.

again, i didn't counter anything. No one had claimed mason before I did sooooooo it was PTB that countered my claim, not the other way around

103.

Who is?

If me, this is based on purely from me not believing you were town just because you claimed sheriff earlier.

Trust me, don't let your friendship or SC2mod relationship with Mesk cloud your judgment. It's not possible for there to be solo mason, that's just fucking dumb lol. Also, they wouldn't have a mason team and a solo mason not linked.

She has to be lying. There is no other alternative.

PTB makes it seem like its mechanically impossible for there to be a solo mason, this is absolutely not the case.

104.

Exactly. Because my claim is true, but you're trying to spin it as if my claim is the false one.

You claimed first, so what? As you've said previously, FIRST COME FIRST SERVE IS NOT VALID. I've seen scum claim roles first all the time, and then get cc'd. I've seen town fake claim tprs to take a bullet for real tpr. What's your point?

You just want everyone accept you're town because you said it first.

Sorry, girlfriend. Not today.

You had the unfortunate luck of PTB rolling Mason.

it's not first claim first serve. but the first person to claim is the one that gets countered. lol

105.

And yet you stated on page one or two you'd wait until voting was open to lynch me.

Your posts have indicated that, that is still your intent.

Basically, you're not contributing, and you're just throwing shade at me because you like mesk.

Sorry bro, you're wrong here.

Share some reads if you read 16 pages.

or don't idc, vote whoever you want. I know you're town, and I only pushed because I wanted to see your reactions to sort you based on your claim and your responses. Now you're confirmed by Nawa and by mesk outing herself as scum.

So there's really no need for this back and forth between us.

Vote me if you want to, or vote mesk. Up to you. But good job, you're not getting lynched!

so now when ptb needs blinks vote, he claims he was just pushing to see reactions. if you know he's town, what reactions do you need?

106.

I'd also like to point out where I soft claimed Mason on the first or 2nd page (always hard for me because I have it set to max # of posts allowed on one page. so right now I only have 7 pages to go through, but it's a lot of posts.)

yes thats right, ptb made a weak af soft claim in quote 15 in my last iso.

107.

LOL desperate scum trying to use host meta to confirm role.

but he had been talking about host meta since i claimed basically lol. "iced wouldn't do this" "iced wouldn't do that" so clearly it wasn't known what iced would do, so I asked. lol

108.

@Iced_Monopoly can you also confirm that it does NOT state that masons cannot confirm during day chat? Or give clarity as to what HOST CONFIRMED means?

calls me out on asking host a question, does it himself

109.

I never said they must. I said it would be ABSOLUTELY DUMB to have a solo mason.

Also, since I'm mason your claim is a lie.

now calls host dumb
110.

Please says the queen of hypocrisy.

at least i own the fuck outta it

111.

No, I and OTHERS. 2 OTHERS at this point stated that it is very UNLIKELY for there to be a solo mason.

I KNOW it's impossible because I'm mason and have a teammate.

Please do not conflate the two.

his point must be right, cause we all know MM is always right

No clue. Seems afk.

At this point I'm guess ardvarksbark or naz. Since by poe you're sheriff, Nawa is citizen, sb16 and MM both stick to Citizen claims. And mesk is scum.

oh right, the two people he happened to put at null... LOL

112.

Maybe he's uh, reading?

Also this was cute. I figured you were scum because you were doing that typical mesk 1 or 2 shit posts than lurk for up to 10 hours, then claim drunk followed by a poke then afk. Everyone else was claiming, and you came back and tried to push more bullshit, since you saw blink already had it out for me.

Basically, if you won over blink you'd have 3 votes against me. You'd just need to convince two more people.

I was baiting you to make a claim, because as SB16 said, Scum would claim tpr. I just didn't expect you to claim MY role. And a solo version of my role at that. That was just Icing on the cake.

every thing here is invalid given i claimed citizen the first post i made. 10 hours lurking? lol it's called sleep and having a normal thursday night.

113.

No you're clearly telling your scummate to not reveal to keep up the charade. Its obvious they're going to vote WITH you at EOD. They don't need to contribute. You just have to flip 3 people.

Nice try dipshit.

Okay mr. Naz is my scum buddy... o i mean mason

[Mesk514]

ugh my shit didn't come out in the spoilers or formatted properly. but oh well. i may or not get to the last 50 something odd posts. but that's all the way to page 8 and ptb stopped posting on page 10. and between those two pages is absolutely nothing productive.

[PowersThatBe]

blinkskater is a sheriff
PTB is scum with his/her Ultimate THATS A FUCKING SCUMSLIP about "Mason #1" instead of just "Mason"

-vote PowersThatBe

Masons don't have numbers.

Except they assigned us numbers for this game as we're allowed to day claim.

It's a different version of the last game Nawa.

[PowersThatBe]

blinkskater is a sheriff
PTB is scum with his/her Ultimate THATS A FUCKING SCUMSLIP about "Mason #1" instead of just "Mason"

-vote PowersThatBe

Masons don't have numbers.

Nawa, you're really going to game throw because host assigned us Mason 1 and Mason 2 and told us to use them in the QT chat?

Dumbest fucking reason to vote ever.

Have you even read this game?

[Nawa]

Nawa, you're really going to game throw because host assigned us Mason 1 and Mason 2 and told us to use them in the QT chat?

Dumbest fucking reason to vote ever.

Have you even read this game?

nah i am gonna send the lynch train right into winthegame ville

[blinkskater]

Ok so without even knowing Nawa for being mostly AFK inactive this game He/She hit the nail right on the head with a small hammer as I like to say, 2 Masons would be way to easy for the town with Sheriff/Citizen,solo mason seems highly possible also If you read a lot of Mesks points in the "ISO" as she called it they do make tons of sense, I'm asking MM and SB16 and Aardvark guy to read Mesks points and consider them

[blinkskater]

Nawa, you're really going to game throw because host assigned us Mason 1 and Mason 2 and told us to use them in the QT chat?

Dumbest fucking reason to vote ever.

Have you even read this game?

This right here, trying to bully Nawa into the old "thorwing the game" to me is a big red flag right there!

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@Marshmallow Marshall Real talk? There's nothing to actually talk about. There's no such thing as poor town play because there is no actual game to be playing.

I don't have to build a case to determine which shout-y and rude teenager is lying to me. Either Mesk got screwed by a non-standard game setup and PTB and Naz took advantage of it, or Mesk took a weird and bizarre gamble by claiming solo mason and it blew back on her almost immediately. Do you see many other possibilities?

Tell us which possibility is happening, at least! Why are you playing if everything's so boooring??? You're being rude to us who are trying to play correctly, and to do our job: finding the scum. You aren't helping AT ALL. There is no game to be playing if you think that LYLO (because that's what it is) is boring. But if you think that, stop playing FMs or read some help guides. Of course, if you're scum, you're playing correctly but too much obviously.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

blinkskater is a sheriff
PTB is scum with his/her Ultimate THATS A FUCKING SCUMSLIP about "Mason #1" instead of just "Mason"

-vote PowersThatBe

Masons don't have numbers.

Uhh? And how do you know that, pray tell? This time, I'll say it: OMGUS. As in YOU SUCK MAN. Or kitten? YOU SUCK ANYWAY. You are buying solo mason over someone saying mason #1 and #2, which is probably pure host decision.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

wow. the game is going to be thrown... and I can't stop it, since I have to go. I will TRY to get on in 4 hours, but I might not be able to.

[blinkskater]

-vote PowersThatBe

[blinkskater]

Notice he didn't say town loses. I'm not saying he's scum, but this would be a scum slip if he is.

Truth be told, we have no idea if there is a sheriff in this set up. We could have masons, and if we have masons, would we have a sheriff and a confirmed role?

Would we have masons, sheriff, and mayor in this set up? Therefore confirming like 90% of the town lol.

I DOUBT Icy would do that, so for now we gotta see what happens.

I still don't think we should mass claim. BUT for the newer players, optics is everything in FM. And what blink did (potentially at the direction of his scum parter nawa IF they're scum) is play the I SAID IT FIRST SO ITS TRUE ABOUT ME, AND ANYONE WHO CLAIMS AFTER IS A LIAR! MM has played by this rule before "FIRST COME FIRST SERVE." Nawa COULD (emphasis on the COULD, meaning it IS possible) be scum directing blink.

I cannot saying, unfortunately I am not a TPR this game, and thus, I cannot CC a sheriff claim or give any insight into the town make-up.

I do know that anyone could say anything, and just because Blink claimed first, does not mean he gets to be sheriff. I'm not saying he's not sheriff. BUT, the possibility is there.
@Marshmallow Marshall I saw you falling into this trap earlier with the "he's far from confirmed not being true" because he is far from being confirmed, and Nawa's word doesn't mean anything. Scum have a private chat they can use all game, to think we're not at a disadvantage to them is silly.

Once again, I don't feel like arguing with blink (who I just met like 3 or 4 hours ago) about "his word" or him "not being able to tell lies" because that shit doesn't mean anything to me.

Would scum out their partner this early in a ballsy move like that in a one lynch game? IDK, but you kinda gotta go balls to the wall in a set up like this.

this whole quote right here from PTB makes me LOL pretty hard just read it and compare it to his "new views"

[blinkskater]

@Stealthbomber16

Would love to hear back from you on where you stand, and any points/info you'd like to make aside from mesk/nawa, I think you tend to make the most sense

[Nawa]

Uhh? And how do you know that, pray tell? This time, I'll say it: OMGUS. As in YOU SUCK MAN. Or kitten? YOU SUCK ANYWAY. You are buying solo mason over someone saying mason #1 and #2, which is probably pure host decision.

just read mesks big posts

[Nawa]

Uhh? And how do you know that, pray tell? This time, I'll say it: OMGUS. As in YOU SUCK MAN. Or kitten? YOU SUCK ANYWAY. You are buying solo mason over someone saying mason #1 and #2, which is probably pure host decision.

solo mason is more likely to be true vs double mason

[PowersThatBe]

continuation of mesks first in depth ISO

Heres more PTB fluff, flatter and contradictions.. Don't be fooled by the post amount folks, this is no way no how, how ptb plays as town. Absolute 0 content but weak shade and compelling about host meta and jacking it with MM. Literally nothing really warranted more than a 2 line response. it's all bullshit LOL Says the person who literally typed I'M TOWN LEADER BYEEEEEEEE


Summarized quotes: 67. ptb casts shade based on host meta and claiming i don’t know how private chats work No, I never said you didn't know how private chats work. I said your point in trying to use host meta to confuse everyone about them was weak. The host was never going to confirm or deny either of alignments via you asking him to. I think it's fucking pathetic for you to try and use going to the host to ask "clarifying" questions as a means to "seem towny" and trick everyone. Then when the HOST proved your bullshit wrong, you flipped the script and tried to make it seem like that's what you wanted all along. At the end of the day you're a scared little scum trying to hide behind host because you don't have shit to stand on.

68. PTB claims i was baiting, yet i only claimed after he basically questioning the fuck outta my role. He had no reason to ask my role when he state multiple times I was soft claiming Mayor I said you were baiting? is this in your quotes?


70. PTB instills pre flip associations. My teammate must be not doing anything because i claimed mason, and they wanna stay away from me, or we wanted diversity. This is not a viable reason. This is an extremely anti town way of thinking No it's not anti town, you're scum,
and your scummate is trying to not have any day chat associations with you. As it stand you have 4 votes against me with blink, nawa, ur scummate and u. SO please. your fucking plan is working, make me and Naz seem like a scum team because your teammate is laying back and letting others pick up the slack. Congrats you clung to the two confirmed towns that happened to be the most weak minded individuals. Nawa is still butthurt at me probably for D1 lynching him.

71. ptb claims it would be dumb for scum to cc. but as he stated many times this game, it’s all about having BIG BALLS I said it was BALLSY FOR YOU to play how you're playing right now. If you and your scummate just claimed duo mason you could have made a better case.
I said it would be dumb for scum to counter a solo mason claim as you could sit back and force a connection between me and my mason pal.
While your teammate is just gonna wait to hammer or get me in hammering range. Nice try scrub.

73. PTB once again mentions the fact I’m an admin. there’s no warrant for this at all. just cause i’m an admin doesn’t mean i don’t have a life. Post rate has nothing to do with alignment. at all. No i mention you're an admin because you were pressing on the host multiple times. I also brought up your being an admin because you fucking have been degrading people in game for disagreeing with you. Hopefully you wont be an admin after this game, or I'm done with FM. Your attempt to use host meta to get people to "side with you" or "seem towny" is bullshit way to play. Luckily, I'm telling the truth and host basically confirmed everything I said. So yeah, fuck you and this point. thanks.

77. ptb claims how he would act if he wasn’t scum… completely false given he’s scum here. I said how I would act if I WAS scum. Cant even get your points fucking straight.

78. logic fail on ptbs part. ptb claimed the my scum partner is veering far away from me, but then asks why if mm was his partner, why didn’t mm claim mason with him. LOL This is the most retarded point ever? You kept saying MM was probably my teammate, and I said if that were true why didn't he claim Mason? Why would he just be fucking vague about it? I didn't know who my teammte was. Bro can you even fucking read? Another sad sad attempt at making me look scummy. Once again, as I stated, scum would run with the solo mason claim and now that people know you're the scum, your teammate isnt going to defend you and make that connection. God you're so dumb sometimes.

80. 2 posts later, supposedly now my “teammate” can’t claim cause I’ve dug a hole so big. yet two posts ago he was making comments about how my teammate claimed citizen. why would my “teammate” (who i dont have”) claim mason now after I’ve been attacked senselessly for claiming my real role lol. Yes, I'm sure whoever your teammate is, is probably a citizen claim. It's the only option left. Yes you tried to be creative with a solo mason claim, and now you're caught in your lie.. Obviously now, if your teammate defended you, it would risk exposure.
All your scummate has to do is just simply state "I dont believe ptb" and vote me at voting time. You can do all the work yourself up to that point.
It's not a dumb play at al, and you've play more games than most of us here, and know how to work the system.

100 post analysis - more fluff and flattery ladies and gentleman. not only has he used host meta and the fact i am an admin as a reason to push, he still tries to teach MM how to play and contributes nothing else. Literally between posts 62 and 100, theres little to no substance. took me about 20 minutes to go through it all LOL of course your scumm ass would say this. But as you can look above. NOTHING you stated is even remotely true. Your ISO on me is one of the weakest pieces of shit I have ever come across.

103. ptb makes it seem like theres 0 way for their to be 1 mason. this is not correct. it i possible and it’s happening Sb16 MM and Myself said there was very unlikely chance of solo mason. I said IM would not have such a broken fucking set up like that. I said it was fucking dumb. But at the end of the day, your claim is impossible because Naz and I are MASONS. Thats why you claim is bullshit. If I wasn't mason myself,
I'd be inclined to think the solo mason role in the set up was dumb, but I'd consider it more probably. But given it's literally impossible given my role and naz's role then um yeah. You're scum, bye.

Spoiler : quotes and commentary :

63.

no but claiming citizen, then claiming glorified is like the same thing. duh
Yeah.... no. Just stating bullshit and trying to run back and say it means you meant something different is dumb.
64.
quoting a post that happened to be under the post i wanted/needed shows nothing. useless shade
LOl still on that?

65.

more like trying to tell you how to play

Spoiler : quotes and commentary :

LOl another weak ass point with no correlation to her claim.
66.

yes, a glorified citizen. aka solo mason. much common sense from you. much wow.
Wow so you said glorified. Must mean you're a solo mason. WOW thanks for clearing that up. Again, another weak point already stated before.
67.

yes i claimed to be townleader, THE REAL TOWNLEADER. ptb couldn't let me get in his way. again, PTB uses host meta before i even really said anything about host stuff. I also organize the private chats for games, i know exactly how they work lol. useless shade
LOL how did I use host meta? I didn't? What did I run to host about? Wow look at her claiming that FM admin role again to give her some kinda authority here to try and prove her role as "solo mason." LOL so sad, as if that has any bearing on what role you'd get. Also,
You said no one would name themselves Mason 1 and Mason 2 in a QT chat. I told you already that host INSTRUCTED us to do that. So yeah,
you can organize all the chats you want, but it doesnt mean you have any knowledge of my pms with host and his set up of my private chat.
At the end of the day, you're scum. I'm mason, and this point you made does nothing to prove my claim untrue and yours true. Its more useless repeated bullshit.
68.


there's no motivation for me to bait anyone. i popped in and out cause i was drunk. i have and always will feel the need to put little to no effort into a game unless push comes to shove. I only claimed when PTB tried to take over the game by leading it off of pure NOTHING LOL wait, so first, I'm all fluff, and now I'm "leading it" and leading it off of "NOTHING" because I a healthy bit of skepticism about the sheriff claim, and before Nawa came and confirmed him. Also, there was like no one around contributing or pushing.
So sorry i'm actually ACTIVE in my games. Unlike you, who has to pop in say bullshit and run away because you fold under any sort of pressure.

69.
Petty as fuck shade.
Once again, weeak ass point
70.

71.

72.
this wasn't even directed at ptb, but he couldn't resist throwing the shade. MM is a moron so.
Stop calling people morons when they disagree with you. You're the moron who thought a solo mason claim would actually work.
73.

again, mentioning my status again! i was drunk, big whoop. I still did everything I did every other town game.
I've played consistent to all my other town games. So your point makes no sense. But as scum, mesk you have this habit of hopping into game "drunk" saying some bullshit and then running away and lurking. You tried that here until I forced you to hard claim a role.

74.

well not MM no, he's a moron.
Insulting MM again, I guess me him and Naz are a three person scum team now? Since theres a "solo mason" 3 scum has to be possible too right? Is that your next point? you're so bad when caught mesk.
75.

more and more host meta. even telling me what i should have claimed. I claimed the truth, unlike him. not my fault he picked sucha ballsy CC LOL you're just trying to flip what I said to you onto me. It's quite pathetic. Again, you shouldn't have claimed Solo mason, your scum ass would have been better as a citizen claim.

76.

More and more teaching. why the hell would i appeal to someone who has the worst track record of misquoting over the stupidest reasons. MM is no one i give a fuck about at all. he is brutal and terrible to play with.
No that's you tbh. You assault people for disagreeing with you, and instead of trying to give them reason to follow them,
you shit on them for "not getting it" It's quite sad, you don't have the intellectual capabilities to accurately make a case against me, so what do you do? Say the same things over and over again in a big post hoping I'll never go through it all and refute you. Listen mesk, I really hope you grow from this experience. Truly, shitting on people who don't get your points, because you lay them out poorly, does not make them a moron. It makes you ineffectual at communicating. So honestly, please stop with insulting people for disagreeing with you. Prove to them why you're right and I'm wrong.
I've yet to see anything of substance. Well probably because I KNOW for a fact you're 100% scum. girl bye.
77.

i never once said you were dumb. you got balls. the one thing you kept saying was important to have this game. also theres no proof you would claim a non tpr given you were never in a game as scum like this. so to tell people this is how you'd act is irrelevant and wrong. Ayyee twisting my words. Sorry, I thought you were calling me dumb too. So hard to keep track of who you're insulting. I can give a baseline of how I'd act. i'm pretty self aware. If I were scum this game, I would NOT CC a TPR claim and put the lynch between myself and that claim. AS I stated before. If I were SCUM. I'd have no way to know if solo mason was true or not, and therefore, it would be an error to cc because your solo claim could be bogus and you could have had another mason teammate pop up and say GOT EM. We planned this in our chat. But since I KNOW you're not mason, and I am, I had no problem with ccing you because I'm Mason with Naz and you're a scummmmmmmmmmmm bummmm

78.

for the same reason my supposed scum partner didn't cc me right? logic failed. 0 logic here. Why would your scum mate cc you? You're literally dumb.

79.

more shitty ass flattery

80.

2 post later, my "scummate" can't claim with me. because between those two posts, i supposedly dug a hole so deep.
You dug a deep hole with your bullshit solo mason claim. I wanted to lay low and see if scum would try to claim mason,
and look your dumbass did. You got caught off guard and you don't know what to do.
81.

HAHAHAHAHA
I like how you just type out numbers, instead of using actual quotes. Real towny of you. God you're lazy.
82.
PTB buddying with MM the town idiot, again
Nah, fuck you homes. Simple.
83.

useless post of words that don't lead to a valid point whatsoever, he couldn't just say "too stupid to be scum doesn't mean you're town" he had to try and be smart
Again, a weak ass defense by you.
84.
petty shade
Like your life.
85.

derp.

86.
more appealing to MM, cause that's his best bet.
Why would i need to appeal to MM he's already voting you based off the idea your claim is bullshit. I'm not gonna sit here and flatter him to get him to vote my way, he's already voting my way. I just don't see how you need to attack him every 5 minutes.
87.

PTB doesn't get what a glorified citizen means, also, not claiming revealing as mayor would be throwing. petty shade.
No I get it, it just makes no sense for a towny to keep trying soft claim your role without actually just stating it. You waited until all other citizen claims were out there before trying to "diversify" your role claim. You were hoping no one would reveal mayor and blow your ass out of the water. Girl bye. You scummmy.
88.

he's not your teammate, but at least PTB was being honest here about manipulating the fuck outta him. i would too, he's too easy to manipulate. Mesk you cant manipulate shit. As per this game, well actually, you got blink and a nawa but they're actually sheep so. lUL

89.

harping on how i chose to build the community. nothing game related at all.
Building the community is not trying run MM out of town because you think he's dumb for not believing your lies. It's simply a threat to get him to vote your way. Its scummy as fuck. Town would not resort to using their status in the community to get their way. It's just another example of you relying on external factors because you are such a goddamn weak FM player. Terrible scum play on your part.
90.

flattery lol

91.
cocky fuck, irony is he's the scum and I'm the solo mason FAKE NEWS

92.
says the dude who literally has done none of that, instead tell people HOW to play the game based on their agenda.
Nope. More FAKE NEWS. I'm actually using this game as a teaching tool. Maybe I should run the FM section and not some angry petty little girl.
93.

mentions me to be a general asshate, also flaunting he's got a teammate that will vote with him
You're the one calling people asshats. Yes we all know masons are a team within town. Thanks tho.
94.

ya MM, PTB is your bro
Hi hater
95.
role card said i didn't have a teammate, not that i was a solo mason. duh
So now you're not solo mason? i'm confused.
96.

exactly why he feels comfortable coaching and buddying with MM, he knows how dumb he is.
Nah, I see potential in him. And unlike how I was treated in this community when I first started, I'd like to build someone up.
Not tear them down for being new. SCV is a completely different story because all he wants to do is troll. MM is actually trying to improve. SO really using this bullshit to try and justify yourself is weak and sad. You're a detriment to this community.
97.
yup

98.

99.

again, flattering himself. I was talking to MM and he automatically responds assuming i'm chatting with him
your posts are all over the place, its hard to tell tbh.
100.

another misrepresentation of what I said. He counter claimed me, I didn't counter claim him. That was my point. it had nothing to do with first come first serve. K. I CC'd your bullshit claim. Your claim is still in counter to what I'm claiming to be true. Cant misrepresent when I'm stating facts. but whatever.

101.

I accused MM of being dumb or scum. I mean, there's only two options in this game
Well, unless he's your teammate, he's not scum. And new does not mean dumb. Wow mesk you a really make me sad by how you're being. Caught in lies so you gotta put people down. SAD!
102.

again, i didn't counter anything. No one had claimed mason before I did sooooooo it was PTB that countered my claim, not the other way around Yes, I cc'd you. But your claim is still counter to my claim. They're opposite sides of a spectrum.
Again, I'm sorry you don't understand nuance.

103.

PTB makes it seem like its mechanically impossible for there to be a solo mason, this is absolutely not the case.
This AGAIN? You made it seem mechanically impossible for Masons to Day claim. WHILE DAY CLAIMING YOURSELF. You contradict your own theories. Then you tried to get host to side with you, and he shut that shit down.
104.

it's not first claim first serve. but the first person to claim is the one that gets countered. lol
ok. Cool I cc'd you. this is such filler.
105.

so now when ptb needs blinks vote, he claims he was just pushing to see reactions. if you know he's town, what reactions do you need? I was pushing him before I KNEW he was town. God you're so bad at FM. Anyhow, I even stated back when I was pushing the possible scum team of Nawa and Blink that I was never accusing them, just that because Blink claimed first didn't mean MM should follow him immediately. MM stated he didn't intend to, and then yeah, other claims came out, and you Claimed bullshit solo mason which isn't possible because I'm part of a mason team. And honestly, this lends to my point. I was skeptical of him being Sheriff because of having 2 masons in game. But without a mayor that makes sense. So again, whats your point? I scum hunted a potential fake claim from someone I never saw before,
and stopped once I found the real scum claimed solo mason? Wow again, weak.

106.

yes thats right, ptb made a weak af soft claim in quote 15 in my last iso.
[COLOR=“#00FFFF”]Girl, you don’t iso shit. You just post a big post of numbers and claim bullshit. [/COLOR]
107.

but he had been talking about host meta since i claimed basically lol. "iced wouldn't do this" "iced wouldn't do that" so clearly it wasn't known what iced would do, so I asked. lol
[COLOR=“#00FFFF”]Right, my not thinking IM would EVER run a solo mason set up is somehow this egregious sin. Yet two other people said the same thing as me. So, how is this painting me as scum. Am I now scum with MM SB16 AND NAZ? Wow Guess we win? God this point is so dumb. You said before that Ice wouldn’t let masons Day claim because YOU DID THIS SET UP SO WE SHOULD LISTEN TO THE FM ADMIN. Girl bye again. Also, side note. It’s impossible because I’m mason, and you’re not.
108.

calls me out on asking host a question, does it himself
[COLOR=“#00FFFF"]Fight fire with fire. You’re gonna try to make it seem like the number of possible masons is gonna clear you. I’m gonna make sure host clarifies what I said was true too. So clearly you’re abusing your role as admin to try and skew things, what defense do I have? To make sure my mason team comp is proven to be what I said it was. BECAUSE ITS THE TRUTH.[/COLOR]
109.


now calls host dumb[COLOR=“#00FFFF"]I would never call IM dumb. I have a lot of respect for him[/COLOR]

110.

at least i own the fuck outta it
[COLOR=“#00FFFF"]This is dumb and you should feel bad. [/COLOR]
111.

his point must be right, cause we all know MM is always right
[COLOR=“#00FFFF”]He's right this game, and he was right in Undercover. He know hybrid was scum. So yeah. [/COLOR]


oh right, the two people he happened to put at null... LOL
[COLOR=“#00FFFF"]were the two people who posted the least out of everyone and therefore I had no idea as to their alignment. I figured one of them would claim second mason. Just didn’t know which one. [/COLOR]
112.

every thing here is invalid given i claimed citizen the first post i made. 10 hours lurking? lol it's called sleep and having a normal thursday night.
[COLOR=“#00FFFF"] The IRL defense. Classic scum tactic. [/COLOR]
113.


Okay mr. Naz is my scum buddy... o i mean mason
[COLOR=“#00FFFF"] Yes she is my mason bud.[/COLOR]
[/COLOR]

Dont let the size of Mesk’s post fool you into thinking she’s town. She wrote nothing of substance. She just reiterated a bunch of points she made earlier, I think I stated she didnt quote things, but I just remembered that quoting quotes she quoted will appear as empty spaces to me lol. So disregard my point about that I guess.

Still this is all fluff on her end.

[Nawa]

Dont let the size of Mesk’s post fool you into thinking she’s town. She wrote nothing of substance. She just reiterated a bunch of points she made earlier, I think I stated she didnt quote things, but I just remembered that quoting quotes she quoted will appear as empty spaces to me lol. So disregard my point about that I guess.

Still this is all fluff on her end.

omgus

[PowersThatBe]

nah i am gonna send the lynch train right into winthegame ville

HAHA nawa, please. You're throwing so hard right now.

But that's cool, believe who you want to believe.

[Nawa]

omgus

i hope your scum butt is hurt that you can't claim Mesk&me pair

[PowersThatBe]

omgus

How is this OMG U SUCK?

OMGUS is related to voting ONLY.

[PowersThatBe]

This right here, trying to bully Nawa into the old "thorwing the game" to me is a big red flag right there!

He is throwing if he lynches me.

[PowersThatBe]

Ok so without even knowing Nawa for being mostly AFK inactive this game He/She hit the nail right on the head with a small hammer as I like to say, 2 Masons would be way to easy for the town with Sheriff/Citizen,solo mason seems highly possible also If you read a lot of Mesks points in the "ISO" as she called it they do make tons of sense, I'm asking MM and SB16 and Aardvark guy to read Mesks points and consider them

No they don't. They literally restate every weak point she made throughout. You're just a mesk fanboy.

Congrats on your first FM history loss by foolishly following mesk.

[Nawa]

No they don't. They literally restate every weak point she made throughout. You're just a mesk fanboy.

Congrats on your first FM history loss by foolishly following mesk.

you just dug your own grave
my vote isn't moving anywhere now, and i hope blink's too

[PowersThatBe]

Uhh? And how do you know that, pray tell? This time, I'll say it: OMGUS. As in YOU SUCK MAN. Or kitten? YOU SUCK ANYWAY. You are buying solo mason over someone saying mason #1 and #2, which is probably pure host decision.

LOL i KNOW. It literally makes no sense to me.

I think he's still mad I lynched him Day1 as sk in undercover.

Gotta let that shit go @Nawa

[PowersThatBe]

you just dug your own grave
my vote isn't moving anywhere now, and i hope blink's too

OK than, I never expected you to vote with me.

It's sad nawa, you probably didn't even read anything i wrote. You saw a number and decided that was more true than a dumb solo mason claim.

GG either way.

I hope you learn from your mistakes tho.

[Nawa]

How is this OMG U SUCK?

OMGUS is related to voting ONLY.

so you say you can only suck when i vote you?
then i already did

[Nawa]

OK than, I never expected you to vote with me.

It's sad nawa, you probably didn't even read anything i wrote. You saw a number and decided that was more true than a dumb solo mason claim.

GG either way.

I hope you learn from your mistakes tho.

i will 100% learn from this game

[PowersThatBe]

so you say you can only suck when i vote you?
then i already did

No OMGUS = It can be used as an "excuse" for a Random Vote near the beginning of the game, or as a retaliation when someone is close to being lynched, as a vent against the frustration (even if the player being voted for has no reasonable chance of being Lynched).

Occasionally a Scum player will use it to cover a strategic vote, feigning outrage to get someone else closer to a lynch.


Therefore OMGUS doesn't apply here.


So tell me Nawa, why are you voting for me? Because of Mason #1 and Mason #2?

[PowersThatBe]

i will 100% learn from this game

yes you will

[Nawa]

No OMGUS = It can be used as an "excuse" for a Random Vote near the beginning of the game, or as a retaliation when someone is close to being lynched, as a vent against the frustration (even if the player being voted for has no reasonable chance of being Lynched).

Occasionally a Scum player will use it to cover a strategic vote, feigning outrage to get someone else closer to a lynch.


Therefore OMGUS doesn't apply here.


So tell me Nawa, why are you voting for me? Because of Mason #1 and Mason #2?

because like i said, i don't believe one would be as dumb to claim solo Mason in a setup where 2 masons are more likely and one's teammate would be as dumb to not support him
because asking a number of questions seem to be part of your town meta, which you didn't do this game
because basically i have a gut feeling you are scum

oh and, i 100% will use omgus abbreviation like i want and not like some nerds who i never seen from some nerdy wiki

[PowersThatBe]

you just dug your own grave
my vote isn't moving anywhere now, and i hope blink's too

And tell me how I dug my own grave? Blink has had it out for me since page one. You're going to side with someone who literally hasn't looked anywhere else but me since page one? All because he said you were citizen? Granted, I believe he has to be sheriff at this point, but still. It's his first game, and look who he's following? Mesk? Who he already stated he has a great affinity for outside of the game. This is clearly tainting his view. And you're allowing yourself to be pulled into this vortex. You guys are allowing scum team to kill me if you get one more vote. So hopefully other people come to their senses, because otherwise we're gonna lose.

[blinkskater]

Hi I would just like to throw in there I did look else where, I just wanted to see how far you took it, And if i thought mesk was scum I would vote her in a heartbeat, stop using me as a scapegoat your points on me are invalid

[PowersThatBe]

because like i said, i don't believe one would be as dumb to claim solo Mason in a setup where 2 masons are more likely and one's teammate would be as dumb to not support him
because asking a number of questions seem to be part of your town meta, which you didn't do this game
because basically i have a gut feeling you are scum

oh and, i 100% will use omgus abbreviation like i want and not like some nerds who i never seen from some nerdy wiki

1. So you're playing right into mesk's hand. Claim solo Mason, have teammate fall back. Get me close to lynch zone, and BOOM hammer. It's not dumb, it's actually a pretty advanced FM strategy to do exactly what it is doing to you.

2. No it's not, I did it in 1 game. Undercover. I don't always use that. Also cross game meta is how people make Mislynches all the time. When I first started playing FM, htis guy Unknown seemed towny in our first game but was scum. In our second game together, he did a lot of the same things. So I WAS so convinced he was scum, I got him ML'd and he was town, and i felt stupid. Just because I do or don't do something in one game, doesn't mean I am or not scum. Looking for my RQS or RQP as a means to sort my alignment isn't going to help you.

Look back at any of my other town games. I've only used it a few times. I was FBI last game, so I felt more of a need to use it to sort possible targets to check.

3. Gut feeling or still mad about undercover? If it truly is a gut feeling, I hope it serves you better in future games. But I think your gut is off of misinformation.

Ok use whatever you'd like to use. Just use it correctly LMAO.

[PowersThatBe]

Hi I would just like to throw in there I did look else where, I just wanted to see how far you took it, And if i thought mesk was scum I would vote her in a heartbeat, stop using me as a scapegoat your points on me are invalid

No you didn't. All posts you made in relation to scum hunting were pointed at me. You've been tunneling since page one.

In FM to 'look elsewhere." is to post questions and thoughts for everyone, and then use them to sort your potential scum pool. You didn't do this, you said "I don't like that guy because he questioned me." Now I'm gonna tunnel his ass into the ground.

No skin off my back though.

You'll learn in future games if you continue to play FM's

[PowersThatBe]

Hi I would just like to throw in there I did look else where, I just wanted to see how far you took it, And if i thought mesk was scum I would vote her in a heartbeat, stop using me as a scapegoat your points on me are invalid

Also, my points arent invalid. You cant think of Mesk as scum because you're falling into the trap of personal bias. You know mesk, you like mesk, mesk is cool to you. Therefore your brain already associates mesk as an ally. You don't know me, and I questioned you, so therefore you think i'm counter to you. Now that it's between mesk and I, you'll see her aa ally and me as enemy.

Tip: In FM for me to question you like I did is actually a towny thing to do. Anyone who just accepts your claims as 100% valid like mesk did, is probably going to be scum, because they already know who is town and who is scum.

[PowersThatBe]

@Iced_Monopoly is it possible in this set up for there to be solo scum?

[blinkskater]

Bro you're trying to tell everyone how I think and feel you're interpretations of my being are INVALID, you don't know me nor how I think, also I did tunnel you in the beginning to see how far you'd take it, I had no intentions of voting you after that fiasco, you dug your own grave

[Nawa]

@Iced_Monopoly is it possible in this set up for there to be solo scum?

lol searching the way to lynch mesk
ur absolute madman

[blinkskater]

haha even I read the setup it clearly shows 2 mafia

[PowersThatBe]

haha even I read the setup it clearly shows 2 mafia

in set up it also shows to masons. whats your point?

[PowersThatBe]

Bro you're trying to tell everyone how I think and feel you're interpretations of my being are INVALID, you don't know me nor how I think, also I did tunnel you in the beginning to see how far you'd take it, I had no intentions of voting you after that fiasco, you dug your own grave

LOL except you said on page one you'd come back when voting opened and you'd vote me again. You've posted nothing in-between then and now to say that you even considered anyone else.

So yeah, I'm going off of the same pitfalls other new players fell into when they came from the mod.

[PowersThatBe]

lol searching the way to lynch mesk
ur absolute madman

She's scum. Nawa, she is the scum.

[PowersThatBe]

Mafia: They share an active private chat
Mason: They share an active private chat but are not host confirmed to etchother



IM loves to run solo scum games on here. Check out Masquerader Madness 1 and Masquerader Madness 2. Both were solo scum games around the same size as this one.

Don't be fooled into thinking there HAS to be TWO scum.

[blinkskater]

I've posted shit in between, and did you not forget i'm the sheriff in this town PowersThatBe is a member of the Mafia.

[blinkskater]

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