The "lynch scum and hopefully confirm 4 townies" idea.
Worst-case scenario, we pick the 2-scum group, mislynch some brat who couldn't be arsed to play the game they fucking signed up for and end up losing the game because we bent over backwards for a policy lynch in a setup that doesn't accommodate for one.
Call it pride. I'd rather not risk losing that way.
It already ruined so it doesn't matter but when my first post: vote group 2
I want to see if there is any debate INSIDE group 2 or not. But sadly 3/5 of them is a (ghost) so...it's a dead end for me. Can't gain any information from group 2.
- I doubt my own group due to the fact none of us doubt-scum read each other make me feel like: why group 3 is so confident and pushing hard on all other player on other group. Did (we) confidence so much because (we) know our group (3) will not be pick today? Or (we) are trying to pretend to be a (good guy) town?
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Yukitaka Oni ~Tafkal Hit Squad Member~
Assuming you meant 2/5 are inactive.
My point still stands. You justified your vote on Group 2 by saying that it wasn't for Calix this time, but that it was because of the lurkers. Now, you unvote and say that your 'plan' is ruined because the lurkers from that group will keep you from gathering info. Why are you contradicting yourself?
Assuming you meant that you doubt you'll vote for your own group.I doubt my own group due to the fact none of us doubt-scum read each other make me feel like: why group 3 is so confident and pushing hard on all other player on other group. Did (we) confidence so much because (we) know our group (3) will not be pick today? Or (we) are trying to pretend to be a (good guy) town?
What makes you say that we are confident that our group will not be picked today? Literally half of the voters for Group 3 ARE FROM group 3 (me and ape).
What makes you feel like members of group 3 have been pushing hard on players of other groups? I don't find this to be true.
We only have ~4 hours left.
I'm just going to be blunt. Group 3 is the only group where all of the players have even turned up. Even if you discount Kovath, there's still more information among that group compared to something like Group 1.
It's the evening for me so some players might become active and actually do shit before then, but I'm not optimistic.
It is assumed that all players have read the whole setup thread and links therein. There may or not be key information about certain things in the discussion about this game while and before this game was under review.
I am going to be sending out some PM's to players who have not posted. If the people who have not confirmed their role do not confirm by the time confirms were suppose to be in, I will be replacing those players with fresh blood. If players do not make their 3 post requirement, then I will give a single warning and if they do not give me any indication that they will post by 24 hours, I will be replacing them.
Look at my group, they have the most vote and they didn't even care. They spend rest of the time trying to scum read other group instead of asking the player within the group, that's number 1
- number 2 is: I know attack is the best defensive, but (pretending) not worry about being pick and scum hunting like nothing happen in this group??? Eh....make me feel so scummy along with the rest of this group :/
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Yukitaka Oni ~Tafkal Hit Squad Member~
We're in the same group btw.
What does this carelessness you're referring to mean? Is it a scum-tell for you?
Players are not really meant to try to read solely players from their own group, but rather read all the players and determine who the best group to lynch from is based on those reads. I don't find this to be a scum-tell.They spend rest of the time trying to scum read other group instead of asking the player within the group, that's number 1
So you admit worrying about Group 3 being picked. Why?- number 2 is: I know attack is the best defensive, but (pretending) not worry about being pick and scum hunting like nothing happen in this group??? Eh....make me feel so scummy along with the rest of this group :/
Why is not worrying about being chosen scummy to you?
Maybe this is not what you meant, but why are you associating scum-hunting with with scum?
Best way to defend our group from being pick is to (attack) scum hunt other player from the other group. Since town decide to (kill) lynch all the Mafia in 1 group. Of course Mafia could do the same to (bussing) other group.
One thing I know for sure, my other plan is to wait until day 2(secrets details) But of course that's required me to survive today or else everyone ruining all my plan to Zero again
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Yukitaka Oni ~Tafkal Hit Squad Member~
it generates some discussion on the setup of the game and its implications, explores the possible outcomes of various D1 lynches. Definitely constructive in contrast to some of Gingerape's prior posts.
ayo playa dat's racist u feel me?
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In general, I am liking Never Unlucky's posts right now.
I agree with this in theory, but I am also paranoid of a silent mafioso squeaking by. D1 might not be the best time to do this, though. Overall, I like this post.
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I am kind of on the fence concerning a Group 2 vote. On the one hand, I like this vote because there have been three active people from my group (including myself) and I want to townlean Calix, "not cognizant scum"lean DUCK, and I am town. This would hypothetically give either 50% or 100% scum lynch chances in Group 2, and it seems most people who have posted so far agree with the above reads.
However, Calix strikes me as a strong and intelligent player who would be capable of playing like this even as scum. This is expounded by the continuing push on Group 3, which is a group we have less to go off of than G2. I am still very uncomfortable with such a seemingly easy push on Group 3.
For now, I will leave my vote on Group 1 but I am definitely considering switching to my own group.
I'm just playing games, I know that's plastic love. -- бум бум сучка!
Trying to read overall instead of our group even they KNOW our group will be pick today. What's this? Are we trying to give a hint to group 1 and 2 that we don't give a fk about who's going to lynch 1 of us today? It's look just like (hey: you or me or maybe Kovath and maybe Ginger die today? Well none of (OUR) business) eh.....quiet a bit bullshit to me ya know? If we know our group is going to be pick today then we should have start reading ourselves instead
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Yukitaka Oni ~Tafkal Hit Squad Member~
Actually, fuck it. I don't like my Group 1 vote.
-vote Group 2
I'm just playing games, I know that's plastic love. -- бум бум сучка!
If talk about overall reading then yes, group 1 seem like a medium chance to me
Group 2 lack of active players and everyone around here believe pick on lurker/inactive player is a bad idea so group 2 is not a good idea
Which lead to the reason why i let people pick group 3. I have nothing to defend this group :/ no one read each other except never unlucky and me anyway
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Yukitaka Oni ~Tafkal Hit Squad Member~
I'm sorry [SPOILER][/SPOILER],but I don't understand this post or at least I don't see how it answers the following:
"What does this carelessness you're referring to mean? Is it a scum-tell for you?"
"So you admit worrying about Group 3 being picked. Why?"
"Why is not worrying about being chosen scummy to you?"
"Maybe this is not what you meant, but why are you associating scum-hunting with with scum?"
Lol I forgot last night to vote. going to catch up before voting since it is 4v3 right now (mostly to see why it is split). Remember, we need 8 in order to actually have a lynch today.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine."
Ok, gotcha.
Other than your reply to his post, it didn't generate discussion. Again, I felt like he was stating the obvious to IIOA. I agree in that it was an improvement from his previous posts though.
Believe it or not, I much prefer this typing style, lol.ayo playa dat's racist u feel me?
What do you like of my posts?In general, I am liking Never Unlucky's posts right now.
I mean, I agree with the theory idea too, but I'm not in a position to vote off a scum-read as I don't have any strong one hence why I was talking about PL. I don't remember Calix saying she scum-read anyone either.I agree with this in theory, but I am also paranoid of a silent mafioso squeaking by. D1 might not be the best time to do this, though. Overall, I like this post.
That's assuming Duck doesn't learn he is scum.I am kind of on the fence concerning a Group 2 vote. On the one hand, I like this vote because there have been three active people from my group (including myself) and I want to townlean Calix, "not cognizant scum"lean DUCK, and I am town. This would hypothetically give either 50% or 100% scum lynch chances in Group 2, and it seems most people who have posted so far agree with the above reads.
I feel like you're being a bit too paranoid here (which is not a bad thing by any means) as 'a strong and intelligent player who would be capable of playing like this even as scum' can also be said about other players namely Duck, Kovath, RLVG, MattZed (?) and yourself (?).However, Calix strikes me as a strong and intelligent player who would be capable of playing like this even as scum. This is expounded by the continuing push on Group 3, which is a group we have less to go off of than G2. I am still very uncomfortable with such a seemingly easy push on Group 3.
I would feel uncomfortable if she was pushing for our group without reason, but it isn't the case. As she said, she's familiar with 4/5 players in this group and 5/5 players of this group are from this site, so they should be easier to read due to meta arguments. She also stated that she doubted her vote on group 3 because we are the most active group as a whole. I think nuancing thoughts is more town than it is scum.
What's appealing to you in group 1?For now, I will leave my vote on Group 1 but I am definitely considering switching to my own group.
You know, When reading I got a idea and I was like: "Hey, Let's see what the other people in my group have done!" and I click on their filters. "since I know i am town, I should be looking at them anyways, regardless of what group is up." I say.
Only me and fucking titus have posted >_<
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine."
Beetle juice.
-vote No group
Oh fuck thought I was the four side.
-vote Group 2
In regards to scum-reads, I was suspecting Yuki earlier for his contradictory posts which I have detailed in the thread. Not sure how you missed my quasi-push on Yuki earlier. While that issue hasn't been addressed, some of his recent content regarding the group voting feels like he's legitimately irritated at the others in his group. I don't think scum would want members in their group trying to scum-hunt among each other early.
I'm not a fan of RLVG, although I'll wait until he comes back before making a definitive judgment.
Special Note:
All QT's will be made public after the game is over.
I would rather have the votes tied at 3 - 3 and get new blood to comment on the choices, with the understanding if they do not show, group 3 takes it.
Oh we don't need majority to pick a group? Well that makes it less stressful, I would only had 18 mins to catch up and then respond to things too so thank god.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine."
-vote Group 2
Because Calix.
Last edited by Klingoncelt; August 13th, 2016 at 12:50 PM.
I actually like this plan. I can either vote to make it 4-4, or someone else can unvote to make it 3-3.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine."
NVM
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine."
I have to go, wont be on for at least the next several hours
Finished eating. Rip, only have one hour until next round...
I'm fine with Group 3 getting voted.
-vote Group 3
Death, yet the Town.
~The Town Code
@Klingoncelt is issued a warning for editing their post. If it it happens again, it is within my power to mod kill the slot.
I take players editing their posts very seriously, do not challenge me on this.
I am going to repeat that it's stupid there's a Hidden Mechanic that obscures your Win Condition, the host put a rule for this particular thing.
And this lasts until Day 2 when you're finally informed of the faction? That's fucking stupid.
M'am, A BALANCED SETUP!!!
This setup shouldn't have a possibility of losing N1.
And since when was it new that I "lack town motivation" when discussing setup stuff? Lol. I'm pretty neutral on that matter.
Personally, we have more than enough TPR that we can figure out the game with relative ease.
You always make yourself low hanging fruit, it's common enough to be meta at this point. Even here you're making yourself plain scummy by publicly announcing a bullshit "hidden mechanic" that obscures your win condition for the first cycle. Beside, "anything out of context", it doesn't warrant you of stuff such as "Lol, let's lynch RLVG because he's better off dead, even if he's town" (not exact wording, but kind of close).
You're calling in the dips of that me and Yuki are potential mafia siblings?
Exactly WHY is my posts shitty?
If you do not know your alignment, what happens if you play against your win condition? If you're a hidden mafia and you purposely help out the town, are you going to get modkilled? If you're a hidden town and you purposely do controversy against the town, will you get modkilled? Will there be a warning issued? Where's the line and why do you specifically have this weird hidden mechanic? This is less of a hidden mechanic and more of a role modification. I personally do NOT believe in this.
In addition, you said Role, not alignment. While this is nitpicky semantics, do you know your alignment or not?
Educate me on how you would not breach the rules. You don't know what you are, so you have to make a decision while it's still unknown : "Will I be town?" "Will I be scum?", going middle-ground is also not ideal.
You're saying that I'm likely to be Mafia then because I AM pushing on your bullshit.
Logical fallacy : The Fallacy Fallacy, because you stated that if I am Mafia then you must be Town.
SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE, YO!!! Why do you think you're the only one with this mechanic I don't believe? You assume you're just a special snowflake and no one else has it, right?
While unrelated, you assume it's a 50-50. Exactly why is the other groups not considered for 2 scum?
This is probably a strawman, but because you said that you should not policy lynch me, doesn't it personally mean you have a personal vendetta against me? I know you said against it, but I dunno at this point lol. I've shown sufficient activity recently, but you're still considering policy. Why isn't Yuki the better policy considering fuck-all that has been posted?
This.
You're worse than me on Null lol. I'm curious, why are you trusting Duck's claim? What if there was a hidden mechanic that he needs to stay alive during the night to use his massacre night ability gotten from a hidden mechanic? You're putting too much faith into this.
@Never Unlucky
[SPOILER=(Text Flavor)], not [SPOILER].
Not a fan of me? What is this, a subtle threat?
Exclude mine! :troll:
This isn't constructive at all. Why Calix?
No we need to rush
Follow me!
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Yukitaka Oni ~Tafkal Hit Squad Member~
How much fluff has Yuki gotten away with?