S-FM 240: Instant Mafia IV

[Mesk514]

no but forreal is caps lock like the new believe me I'm town font?

nope it's the new YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY DUMB font

[PowersThatBe]

Readlist:

TOWN:

Blink (obvious reasons)
Nawa (obvious reasons)
MM (OBVIOUSLY HE'S MY SCUMMATE DUH YOU GUYS.)
SB16: Consistent with towny sb16, been pushing reads and trying to forward a town agenda. Only problem is he kinda gave Mesk an alibi with the whole TPR CC thing.)

NULL:

Aardvarkbarks (just not enough there yet)
Naz (same not contributing enough)

SCUM:

Mesk -- for fake claiming solo mason and ccing my role. No reason a town would do this whatsoever.

[Mesk514]

Mesk -- for fake claiming solo mason and ccing my role. No reason a town would do this whatsoever.

you cc'd my role. I claimed it first.

[PowersThatBe]

nope it's the new YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY DUMB font

wow so now you're insulting me too. So am I a manipulator or am I ABSOLUTELY DUMB?

[Mesk514]

wow so now you're insulting me too. So am I a manipulator or am I ABSOLUTELY DUMB?

in all fairness, it wasn't directed to you. while you're a manipulator, you're using it to your advantage, which makes you in no way dumb at all. you know your audience very very well. i'm gonna shit on MM so hard in after game it's ridiculous.

[blinkskater]

got a question for @Mesky i'm assuming you have an alternate chat that's just empty? And PTb and MM both claim masons, got it I'd like to know naz and aardvarks roles

[Mesk514]

got a question for @Mesky i'm assuming you have an alternate chat that's just empty? And PTb and MM both claim masons, got it I'd like to know naz and aardvarks roles

i have no chat at all. i have no one to talk to.. I am a citizen with a different name than everyone else. that is all. hence why I claimed I was glorified.

[PowersThatBe]

you cc'd my role. I claimed it first.

Oh yea, let me pull up a little quote.

GOOD JOB BUDDY, CAUSE OF COURSE, FIRST COME FIRST SERVE SO TPRS ARE CONFIRMED

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post701600


Town mesk = first come first serve is NOT VALID.

Scum Mesk= I CLAIMED FIRST I'M TOWN.

girl bye. your explanations are as tired as your font.

[PowersThatBe]

got a question for @Mesky i'm assuming you have an alternate chat that's just empty? And PTb and MM both claim masons, got it I'd like to know naz and aardvarks roles

if MM was my actual mason teammate i'm sure he would have claimed by now.

I'm being sarcastic when I say he's my "teammate" because mesk accused us of being scum.

[Mesk514]

another time PTB purposely takes what i say out of context...

I DIDN'T COUNTER CLAIM YOU. YOU COUNTER CLAIMED ME. IF I CLAIM FIRST, I AM NOT COUNTERING YOUR CLAIM BECAUSE HOW THE FUCK WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW (SINCE I AM WHAT I SAY I AM) THAT YOU WOULD THEN CLAIM YOU WERE A MASON WITH A CHAT (which means your actually scum)

[Mesk514]

if MM was my actual mason teammate i'm sure he would have claimed by now.

I'm being sarcastic when I say he's my "teammate" because mesk accused us of being scum.

i didn't necessarily say you were scum together, i said he's dumb or scum.

[blinkskater]

Looking like scum1 and scum2 to me...

[Mesk514]

@Stealthbomber16 , i see you buddy... again

[PowersThatBe]

another time PTB purposely takes what i say out of context...

I DIDN'T COUNTER CLAIM YOU. YOU COUNTER CLAIMED ME. IF I CLAIM FIRST, I AM NOT COUNTERING YOUR CLAIM BECAUSE HOW THE FUCK WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW (SINCE I AM WHAT I SAY I AM) THAT YOU WOULD THEN CLAIM YOU WERE A MASON WITH A CHAT (which means your actually scum)

Right so now its out of context. Is your claim counter to my claim? Or do you believe both to be true?

It's impossible for them both to be true.

I definitely claimed second that's for sure, and my claim is counter to your claim, but your claim is also counter to my claim. Therein lies the fact that we're each counter claiming each other.

Look at you trying to redefine counter claiming to fit your narrative that you're town.

[PowersThatBe]

Looking like scum1 and scum2 to me...

Who is?

If me, this is based on purely from me not believing you were town just because you claimed sheriff earlier.

Trust me, don't let your friendship or SC2mod relationship with Mesk cloud your judgment. It's not possible for there to be solo mason, that's just fucking dumb lol. Also, they wouldn't have a mason team and a solo mason not linked.

She has to be lying. There is no other alternative.

[Stealthbomber16]

holy shit there was a shitstorm while I was trying to play pokemon

NO WHAT I ACHIEVED WAS GETTING THE REAL SCUM TO CC ME.

IT WAS OBVIOUS ICED PUT A SOLO MASON FOR A REASON.

If this were the case wouldn't it be more smart to just... not claim yet? In that scenario you'd be viewed from a much more towny angle CCing as a solo mason than BEING CCd as a solo mason. I'm not sold on your logic here.

so when the game ends, and you see solo mason, you're never gonna play fm again cause you're trash tier right?

This is some spruance level shit here

I CLAIMED GLORIFIED CITIZEN AKA MASON

the logic that i should have just claimed citizen is invalid...CAUSE I DID CLAIMED CITIZEN. I CLAIMED GLORIFIED CITIZEN.

You're not getting what PTB was saying here.
As a solo mason (assuming this would even actually exist) you would be better off using your role as a way to CC mafia claimers hiding as masons.

I didn't even intend to bait and this I caught something wtf

I WILL MAKE THIS CLEAR TOWN! THE ONLY VIABLE LYNCH THIS GAME WOULD BE EITHER MYSELF OR PTB!

YOU GOT TWO MASON CLAIMS. ANYONE WHO TRYS NOT TO VOTE OFF A MASON CLAIM IS JUST BAD.

Spoiler : VIDEO :

there was absolutely zero reason for me to openly claim. other than the fact that it's the truth of course.

No there was absolutely zero reason for you to openly claim AT ALL. You're not afraid of WIFOM. This is the same mesk that claimed vig as a cit less than two months ago. That's bullshit. You're not winning this argument right now with these points.

IT'S EXTREMELY DUMB FOR ME TO OPENLY CLAIM IT OTHER THAN THE FACT IT'S THE TRUTH

It's dumb for you to claim it regardless. Doesn't matter if its the truth. I'm honestly not sure where you're planning on going with this, it's a gambit of some kind but I have no fucking clue what.

I will give up my title as Forum Mafia staff if i'm scum. how bout that.

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I'm not seeing the reason here.

If you're actually a solo mason, take a step back for a moment, no reason to keep this going right now. Posting while angry is often detrimental.
Explain what your goal was with claiming this early
Explain why it was better than hiding and claiming later
Explain what you believe the TPR loadout this game would be since you're a solo mason (consider it based on the assumption blink is sheriff)
Detail which of your posts are meskrage and which ones detail your thoughts.

you think i give a fuck? all these insults are proven correct when i flip solo mason.

You know more than anyone that if you're playing poorly people still won't give a shit if you're solo mason at the end of the game. All that matters is that you played poorly. It happens almost every game.

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dont mention me when im online and browsing the thread.

[Mesk514]

Right so now its out of context. Is your claim counter to my claim? Or do you believe both to be true?

It's impossible for them both to be true.

I definitely claimed second that's for sure, and my claim is counter to your claim, but your claim is also counter to my claim. Therein lies the fact that we're each counter claiming each other.

Look at you trying to redefine counter claiming to fit your narrative that you're town.

again! out of context. The manner of which you said it made it seem like you claimed first and i counter claimed. I did not DIRECTLY counter your claim. however you DIRECTLY countered mine.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

got a question for @Mesky i'm assuming you have an alternate chat that's just empty? And PTb and MM both claim masons, got it I'd like to know naz and aardvarks roles

No I'm citizen... Oh god. What is this game XD

[blinkskater]

Interesting, that you are trying to tell me how my vote is being based. It's actually based off the 16 pages of threads I've read FYI

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Readlist:

TOWN:

Blink (obvious reasons)
Nawa (obvious reasons)
MM (OBVIOUSLY HE'S MY SCUMMATE DUH YOU GUYS.)
SB16: Consistent with towny sb16, been pushing reads and trying to forward a town agenda. Only problem is he kinda gave Mesk an alibi with the whole TPR CC thing.)

NULL:

Aardvarkbarks (just not enough there yet)
Naz (same not contributing enough)

SCUM:

Mesk -- for fake claiming solo mason and ccing my role. No reason a town would do this whatsoever.

I agree with everything but SB16. He's kinda null to me atm, I'm not ready to call him towny for now.

[PowersThatBe]

again! out of context. The manner of which you said it made it seem like you claimed first and i counter claimed. I did not DIRECTLY counter your claim. however you DIRECTLY countered mine.

Exactly. Because my claim is true, but you're trying to spin it as if my claim is the false one.

You claimed first, so what? As you've said previously, FIRST COME FIRST SERVE IS NOT VALID. I've seen scum claim roles first all the time, and then get cc'd. I've seen town fake claim tprs to take a bullet for real tpr. What's your point?

You just want everyone accept you're town because you said it first.

Sorry, girlfriend. Not today.

You had the unfortunate luck of PTB rolling Mason.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Oh yea, let me pull up a little quote.




https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post701600


Town mesk = first come first serve is NOT VALID.

Scum Mesk= I CLAIMED FIRST I'M TOWN.

girl bye. your explanations are as tired as your font.

^^

[PowersThatBe]

Interesting, that you are trying to tell me how my vote is being based. It's actually based off the 16 pages of threads I've read FYI

And yet you stated on page one or two you'd wait until voting was open to lynch me.

Your posts have indicated that, that is still your intent.

Basically, you're not contributing, and you're just throwing shade at me because you like mesk.

Sorry bro, you're wrong here.

Share some reads if you read 16 pages.

or don't idc, vote whoever you want. I know you're town, and I only pushed because I wanted to see your reactions to sort you based on your claim and your responses. Now you're confirmed by Nawa and by mesk outing herself as scum.

So there's really no need for this back and forth between us.

Vote me if you want to, or vote mesk. Up to you. But good job, you're not getting lynched!

[Marshmallow Marshall]

holy shit there was a shitstorm while I was trying to play pokemon



If this were the case wouldn't it be more smart to just... not claim yet? In that scenario you'd be viewed from a much more towny angle CCing as a solo mason than BEING CCd as a solo mason. I'm not sold on your logic here.



This is some spruance level shit here



You're not getting what PTB was saying here.
As a solo mason (assuming this would even actually exist) you would be better off using your role as a way to CC mafia claimers hiding as masons.

I didn't even intend to bait and this I caught something wtf

Spoiler : VIDEO :

No there was absolutely zero reason for you to openly claim AT ALL. You're not afraid of WIFOM. This is the same mesk that claimed vig as a cit less than two months ago. That's bullshit. You're not winning this argument right now with these points.



It's dumb for you to claim it regardless. Doesn't matter if its the truth. I'm honestly not sure where you're planning on going with this, it's a gambit of some kind but I have no fucking clue what.







I'm not seeing the reason here.

If you're actually a solo mason, take a step back for a moment, no reason to keep this going right now. Posting while angry is often detrimental.
Explain what your goal was with claiming this early
Explain why it was better than hiding and claiming later
Explain what you believe the TPR loadout this game would be since you're a solo mason (consider it based on the assumption blink is sheriff)
Detail which of your posts are meskrage and which ones detail your thoughts.



You know more than anyone that if you're playing poorly people still won't give a shit if you're solo mason at the end of the game. All that matters is that you played poorly. It happens almost every game.



dont mention me when im online and browsing the thread.

This is the Stealthbobmer I know. Town lean for you lol. I agree with all your stuff. Also, poor Spruance... You are taking him as a dumbass example every game XD

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Interesting, that you are trying to tell me how my vote is being based. It's actually based off the 16 pages of threads I've read FYI

Your vote? Where is it???? You didn't vote anyone, sir. You can see "Vote Count" thing in top right corner of page to see the.. vote count.

[blinkskater]

Touche!

[blinkskater]

yeah I havn't voted yet because I was still trying to decide, I'm also waiting on input from Nawa

[blinkskater]

and I'm also not sure how to help town out anymore then I allready did Im da riff and nawa da citizen

[Stealthbomber16]

This is the Stealthbobmer I know. Town lean for you lol. I agree with all your stuff. Also, poor Spruance... You are taking him as a dumbass example every game XD

Spruance said he'd never play a gamea gain if I were town.

I was town.



he's played one game since then and was absolute shit that game. my ultimate revenge.

[PowersThatBe]

I'd also like to point out where I soft claimed Mason on the first or 2nd page (always hard for me because I have it set to max # of posts allowed on one page. so right now I only have 7 pages to go through, but it's a lot of posts.)

Lol I guess I hate sheriff so much I overlooked it. I read mayor and instantly read the mason descriptions.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Wtf a solo mason? The Mason's only ability is to have a private chat with the other Mason. So unless you're fucking schizophrenic (ok it's bad spelling i know...), it is a nonsense. NO WAY. Am I allowed to vote people before the end of the 2nd timer (w/o hammering) or must I not vote at all?

You may vote eachother, but there is to be no hammering before the 24hr mark. Anyone who hammer votes is going to have my hammer come down on their head. kthx,

[Mesk514]

holy shit there was a shitstorm while I was trying to play pokemon



If this were the case wouldn't it be more smart to just... not claim yet? In that scenario you'd be viewed from a much more towny angle CCing as a solo mason than BEING CCd as a solo mason. I'm not sold on your logic here.
the first three pages (i have 50 posts per page) all PTB was doing was literally schooling people on how to play. Not only that but he took it into his own hands that he was trying to be the leader of this town. Knowing what role I am, it is painful to watch. Mason, a Sheriff & a Mayor? no way. 2 sheriffs and a mason? no way. I wasn't even pushing ptb, i just casually threw out my opinion of not liking how he tried to make it seem like he was town leader. WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE! (unless theres a mayor) I cannot allow myself to act like he's the town leader. Sure, it's early... but better now than later and just lay it all on the table. I got SCUM to counter my claim. Either you vote me or you vote him. No need to scum hunt either further. question the fuck away, as much as you like.


This is some spruance level shit here
Spruance is still a better player than MM so doesn't matter!



You're not getting what PTB was saying here.
As a solo mason (assuming this would even actually exist) you would be better off using your role as a way to CC mafia claimers hiding as masons.

I KNOW I AM A MASON, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF ME BUT TUNNEL VISION AT THIS POINT. WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO? JUST LET HIM ACT LIKE HE WAS THE LEADER? SCUM LIKES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE WEAK!

Notice how I push PTB once and he answers with

Mesk if you're so prooooo town whats your role then?

it was a setup, and one i have no problem battling against.





No there was absolutely zero reason for you to openly claim AT ALL. You're not afraid of WIFOM. This is the same mesk that claimed vig as a cit less than two months ago. That's bullshit. You're not winning this argument right now with these points.

Sure, it's more about how you persuade than just the claim. But what argument is there? in this context it's either 2 scum vs me or 1 scum and a dumbs twisting things after a setup. LOOK at the manner of which I claimed my role. I didn't openly claim mason out of no where, it was in response to a challenge for position of town leader, which you should know I will take up that fight any day!


It's dumb for you to claim it regardless. Doesn't matter if its the truth. I'm honestly not sure where you're planning on going with this, it's a gambit of some kind but I have no fucking clue what.

.....I'VE LITERALLY NARROWED THE GAME DOWN! it's either PTB or myself, there's no universe that we are both telling the truth. So what does it even matter? I've claimed, PTB countered.




I'm not seeing the reason here.

If you're actually a solo mason, take a step back for a moment, no reason to keep this going right now. Posting while angry is often detrimental. AGAIN, I HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO HAVE TUNNEL VISION, PTB IS SCUM!
Explain what your goal was with claiming this early I answered my real claim in rebuttal to PTBs challenge.
Explain why it was better than hiding and claiming later So what, i was supposed to say that sit around until 24hours before EoD to explain that PTB is scummy as shit. He literally flattered himself then tried to question my authority and pro towness. Rather call it as i see it then sit around and jack it.
Explain what you believe the TPR loadout this game would be since you're a solo mason (consider it based on the assumption blink is sheriff) For all i know there could be two sheriff, POTENTIALLY a sheriff and a mayor, but my best bet is 1 sheriff, 1 mason, and the rest citizen. Iced was willing to put more thought into making it balanced than i was. Although to be fair i did not allow Nawa nor Efe to claim at all publicly they were masons nor post anything indicative in chat. but sure, there's no mason chat anyways. ptb is so scum it's funny.
Detail which of your posts are meskrage and which ones detail your thoughts.They're all meskrage, but they all detail my thoughts. I know what I am, I am sitting in the corner of my house with a glass of sangria almost pissing myself over how dumb MM is. HE SAYS MY POST AREN'T MESK RAGE ENOUGH! but i'm a solo mason, SOOOOO my rage is real.



You know more than anyone that if you're playing poorly people still won't give a shit if you're solo mason at the end of the game. All that matters is that you played poorly. It happens almost every game. I would have been throwing if I was going to allow PTB act like top shit with out a claim. No only was it agonizing to watch him flatter himself, it's rather agonizing to watch people buy that shit! long posts =/= town aligned.



dont mention me when im online and browsing the thread.

So when i see you online for 45 minutes and then no post.. i'm not supposed to call you out on it?

[Mesk514]

Iced Monopoly buddy, this asshats seem to think that Masons must come in pairs btw, can you please publicly confirm that Masons do not HAVE to come in pairs!

[Mesk514]

Especially when as a scum I'd have no idea if you were actually solo mason, or really just a mason baiting and having a teammate follow up later. But since i'm mason, and I DO have a teammate (as the set up fucking states).

I am making ice school you all as PTB states that Masons must come in pairs as setup apparently says that

[Marshmallow Marshall]

You may vote eachother, but there is to be no hammering before the 24hr mark. Anyone who hammer votes is going to have my hammer come down on their head. kthx,

Ok thanks!

-vote Mesk514

[Iced_Monopoly]

Iced Monopoly buddy, this asshats seem to think that Masons must come in pairs btw, can you please publicly confirm that Masons do not HAVE to come in pairs!

There is no stipulation in the setup that masons must come in pairs. Any number of masons can appear in this setup.

If we could all tone it back on the insults too pls. Keep anger directed at the slot, not the player behind the slot.

[Mesk514]

There is no stipulation in the setup that masons must come in pairs. Any number of masons can appear in this setup.

If we could all tone it back on the insults too pls. Keep anger directed at the slot, not the player behind the slot.

totally slot directed. MM's slot is absolutely trash

[PowersThatBe]

Iced Monopoly buddy, this asshats seem to think that Masons must come in pairs btw, can you please publicly confirm that Masons do not HAVE to come in pairs!

LOL desperate scum trying to use host meta to confirm role.

[PowersThatBe]

@Iced_Monopoly can you also confirm that it does NOT state that masons cannot confirm during day chat? Or give clarity as to what HOST CONFIRMED means?

[Mesk514]

LOL desperate scum trying to use host meta to confirm role.

You clearly tried to imply its impossible for there to only be one mason.

[Mesk514]

@Iced_Monopoly can you also confirm that it does NOT state that masons cannot confirm during day chat? Or give clarity as to what HOST CONFIRMED means?

lol hyprocrite.

[PowersThatBe]

I am making ice school you all as PTB states that Masons must come in pairs as setup apparently says that

I never said they must. I said it would be ABSOLUTELY DUMB to have a solo mason.

Also, since I'm mason your claim is a lie.

[PowersThatBe]

lol hyprocrite.

Please says the queen of hypocrisy.

[blinkskater]

so where is this "2nd" mason claim

[PowersThatBe]

You clearly tried to imply its impossible for there to only be one mason.

No, I and OTHERS. 2 OTHERS at this point stated that it is very UNLIKELY for there to be a solo mason.

I KNOW it's impossible because I'm mason and have a teammate.

Please do not conflate the two.

[PowersThatBe]

so where is this "2nd" mason claim

No clue. Seems afk.

At this point I'm guess ardvarksbark or naz. Since by poe you're sheriff, Nawa is citizen, sb16 and MM both stick to Citizen claims. And mesk is scum.

[Mesk514]

I guess im solo scum too then hahahahahahajajahahahahaha he totally forgot to place a second scum with me in effort to try amd not give away his scum mate

[PowersThatBe]

So when i see you online for 45 minutes and then no post.. i'm not supposed to call you out on it?

Maybe he's uh, reading?

Also this was cute. I figured you were scum because you were doing that typical mesk 1 or 2 shit posts than lurk for up to 10 hours, then claim drunk followed by a poke then afk. Everyone else was claiming, and you came back and tried to push more bullshit, since you saw blink already had it out for me.

Basically, if you won over blink you'd have 3 votes against me. You'd just need to convince two more people.

I was baiting you to make a claim, because as SB16 said, Scum would claim tpr. I just didn't expect you to claim MY role. And a solo version of my role at that. That was just Icing on the cake.

[PowersThatBe]

I guess im solo scum too then hahahahahahajajahahahahaha he totally forgot to place a second scum with me in effort to try amd not give away his scum mate

No you're clearly telling your scummate to not reveal to keep up the charade. Its obvious they're going to vote WITH you at EOD. They don't need to contribute. You just have to flip 3 people.

Nice try dipshit.

[Iced_Monopoly]

@Iced_Monopoly can you also confirm that it does NOT state that masons cannot confirm during day chat? Or give clarity as to what HOST CONFIRMED means?

There is no rule restricting masons confirming each other through day chat in this run of the setup.

Host confirmation implies that the players who rolled mason would be revealed to each other in their role card messages, similar to mafia members, by me, the host.
eg.
Your role is xxx
Your teammate is xxx
Your private chat is xxx.com