Buddi 1-S2-1-2341420 ; Ridiculisk 1-S2-1-2614127

[PowersThatBe]

Account Name: Buddi
ID: 1-S2-1-2341420
IGN: Pope Darkness
Crime: Game Throwing

Account Name: Ridiculisk
ID: 1-S2-1-2614127
IGN: White Lives Matter
Crime: Lag Cheating

Crimes: Game Throwing and Lag Cheating. buddigamethrow.SC2Replay

My name: PTB

Summary:

Ridiculisk: Used lag screen to tell everyone he was silenced and that 3 was evil. 3 was not in fact evil. This was not only lag cheating, but false info, and he was invest. However, he could have been witched, I didn't re-watch.

Buddi: 9 was silenced, and another player flipped liasion. So there was no way I could have been anything other than town, I claimed lookout early on and told who visited people accurately. Buddi would not vote 6 with me (the silencer) and in fact jailed me. Then decided to execute, I told him I would report him b/c there is no way I am anything other than town, since I accurately told him that he visited 9 the night before, and given the fact that it was just completely impossible for me to be vanguard. He changed his mind after I said I would report him, and then changed his mind again at the last second and executed me. He was then killed by the MM. Then blamed me. He became super aggressive in the death chat as well.

[Mesk514]

SC ID VERIFICATION
Buddi - Correct: 1-S2-1-2341420
Ridiculisk - Correct: 1-S2-1-2614127

Respective Hotkeys
Buddi: 7
Ridiculisk: 6

Was the Game Result altered?
None whatsoever, The Witch won this game and the evisceration of Town was due to poor play.

Summary
In this setup:
Dragon Head
Triad Random
Triad Support

Buddi:
Buddi/Pope Dankness/#3 roles Jailor.

Day 1 selects #9 to jail.
Night 1 he is jailed himself.

Day 2 selects #5 to jail
Night 2 he executes #5

Day 3 both him and #13 select #9 to jail
Night 3 he and #13 execute #9

Day 4 #8 the lookout claims #9 was visited by #3 & #6 and that #3 is the silencer
#3 says he had executed #9 with #13 and didn't understand why #13 wasn't in the lookouts last will as #13 was with him while jailing #9.
#3 selects #8 to jail.
Night 4 he executes #8 on the basis that he doesn't understand why #13 visiting #9 wasn't in his last will.

The conversation as follows:
#8: sigh, you people are so retarded
*Jailor will execute Taddeo the Strong*
#8: ur really going to kill a lookout?
#3: ya?
#8: after i proved i'm lookout?
#3: you didn't tho
#8: reported
*Jailor has changed his mind*
*Jailor will execute Taddeo the Strong*
#8: retard

Taddeo the Strong (the lookout) was executed and Pope Dankness (Jailor) died at the hands of a MassMurderer
In the dead chat the lookout accused the jailor of cheating multiple times.

Poor Play/Not understanding mechanics =/= Gamethrowing

Ridiculisk:
Roles Investigator.
Night 2 he is silenced.
Day 3 he spams votes, then the lag occurs.
Ridiculisk: "im silenced, 3 is triad"
he continues to spam this until lag ends.

Although #3 was not Triad, the lag chat is not be a place to talk about in game affairs.

Previous Offenses
Buddi - Lag Cheating: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...ighlight=Buddi
Ridiculisk - None

Player Offenses
Buddi: None
Ridiculisk: Lag Cheating

Recommended Action
Buddi: Ignore
Ridiculisk: Watchlist x3

Additional Notes
Thank You for your report.

[PowersThatBe]

I'd like to point out that he admits in death chat, that he executed me because I said I would report. Not because he thought I was evil, which is a form of griefing. I only said I would report him b/c he instantly decided to exe me.

[Mesk514]

Yes, he did say he executed you because you said "reported" however he was going to execute you before you even said "reported". You said reported, he changed his mind and then decided to go through with it. Buddi did not throw. Instantly deciding to execute someone is not a form of Griefing. You were not a confirmed townie and there was no confirmed proof that there was a Silencer as #9 was being a Troll and there was still a Triad Random at large.

Bottom Line, he jailed you because you did not have #13 visiting #9 in your last will. That is a justifiable reason to execute.

Whether you said "reported" or not Buddi had it in his mind that you were evil. It did not make sense to him why you did not see #13 visit #9 but you saw him visit #9.

You saying "reported" would not have changed the out come of that encounter in jail as he was already going to execute you before you said reported. I believe him saying he executed you because you said "reported" is more him saying you saying that sealed the deal for him. It was more of a "hey, i believe he is scum, but if he isn't oh well this guy is super annoying" and that IS NOT GRIEFING.

[PowersThatBe]

Watch the replay again.

He goes to execute me, I tell him I am confirmed lookout. I said reported, just as I entered it. He changed his mind, and wasn't going to execute. Then he changes his mind back again, and admits to executing me solely for saying I was going to report him.

Attention to detail is key. He executed out of personal bias.

Executing someone because they are "super annoying" in your opinion is in fact griefing...

[PowersThatBe]

Also, requesting a second review or an audit.

From either @AIVION , @Gyrlander , @Lysergic , or @Arrow . -- @Unknown1234 cannot b/c he was in game.

It's key to look at the sequence of events. I feel mesk has missed this. Given her history of adding me to a report, for doing less than what happened here, I seriously call into question her ability to do reports. I also find her logic and tone to be abrasive. I am a community member, please treat me with respect.

This players actions directly caused the town to lose, giving the witch the solo win.

[Mesk514]

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS IN JAIL:
#8: sigh, you people are so retarded
*Jailor will execute Taddeo the Strong*
#8: ur really going to kill a lookout?
#3: ya?
#8: after i proved i'm lookout?
#3: you didn't tho
#8: reported
*Jailor has changed his mind*
*Jailor will execute Taddeo the Strong*
#8: retard

HE ACTUALLY CHANGED HIS MIND AFTER YOU SAID "REPORTED". you shouldn't even be throwing "reported" out there like you're the report police okay. You had him pegged as the interrogator until he had you in jail. You say reported and so what, he's supposed to change his mind? no!? he was going to execute you anyways. I suggest you yourself review the replay as you will see that i noted the everything as it happened.

It was not personal bias, it was he thought you were evil and the threat of a report was the cherry on top.

[PowersThatBe]

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS IN JAIL:
#8: sigh, you people are so retarded
*Jailor will execute Taddeo the Strong*
#8: ur really going to kill a lookout?
#3: ya?
#8: after i proved i'm lookout?
#3: you didn't tho
#8: reported
*Jailor has changed his mind*
*Jailor will execute Taddeo the Strong*
#8: retard

HE ACTUALLY CHANGED HIS MIND AFTER YOU SAID "REPORTED". you shouldn't even be throwing "reported" out there like you're the report police okay. You had him pegged as the interrogator until he had you in jail. You say reported and so what, he's supposed to change his mind? no!? he was going to execute you anyways. I suggest you yourself review the replay as you will see that i noted the everything as it happened.

It was not personal bias, it was he thought you were evil and the threat of a report was the cherry on top.

Exactly what I'm saying. He executed b/c I said reported. I can tell someone I'm reporting them.. I know he changed his mind after I said reported, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT'S WHY IT'S WRONG.

I say reported hit enter
jailor changes mind then instantly changes mind back to executing. CLEARLY indicating he lynched me solely for saying I was reporting him.

THEN in death chat.

He admits he exed me b/c I typed that I was reporting him.

You clearly did not watch the replay close enough. And you clearly don't understand what I am saying here. I said reported at the same moment he changed his mind, then he instantly changed back to executing me after he saw "reported." He did it to be spiteful.

And as I told him, I wouldn't have said reported had he not been stupid and decided to lynch me right off the bat.


Also @Arrow can you please correct mesk on the way she is speaking to me right now? I don't think keepers should be allowed to be this rude or confrontational with anyone. I was never this confrontational or condescending to anyone on staff or not. Even though I was talked to about it.


And I had him pegged as interror because he claimed to jail people. and 9 who was invest did say he was evil/kept voting him. And 9 was executed, and 13 flipped jailor. I had reason to believe he could be interror, he had no reason to believe I was evil, and I even tried to push a vote on 6 who also visited 9 with 3, and I said this repeatedly. He instead jails me, (only person scum hunting) and executes me after I said I was going to report him.

[Lysergic]

Appeals / audits are for wrongly punished players who want to prove their innocence, not for reporters who disagree with the Keeper's review. Moreover, 3 of the people you asked to audit your report can't even do audits. And moreover again, you can't just request who does the audit - someone who is blue+ will do the audit when they have time.

From the sounds of the review, I am inclined to think that Mesk made the correct call.

[PowersThatBe]

Appeals / audits are for wrongly punished players who want to prove their innocence, not for reporters who disagree with the Keeper's review. Moreover, 3 of the people you asked to audit your report can't even do audits. And moreover again, you can't just request who does the audit - someone who is blue+ will do the audit when they have time.

From the sounds of the review, I am inclined to think that Mesk made the correct call.

Here you go again, just deciding people made the right call without reviewing the actual replay. Such a joke, why do I even bother? Just forget the whole thing. You clowns are ridiculous. Lysergic not even gonna address how she's speaking to me though?

[Lysergic]

Here you go again, just deciding people made the right call without reviewing the actual replay. Such a joke, why do I even bother? Just forget the whole thing. You clowns are ridiculous. Lysergic not even gonna address how she's speaking to me though?

Copy that, forgetting the whole thing.

[Arrow]

Tonal issues will be dealt with internally.

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