S-FM 220: Empire

[Unknown1234]

I love he uses being Town-read by people as leverage.

[Calix]

Unknown is not obvtown.

Plight? I have one vote on me and am actually fairly townread. My goal for the day is to make sure we no-lynch, and right now my goal is working. I don't really need your help atm.

Please stop being obtuse. I feel like you're not actually reading what I'm saying, lol.

Don't respond to this. I don't think you're going to get it anyway.

[ika]

Please stop being obtuse. I feel like you're not actually reading what I'm saying, lol.

Don't respond to this. I don't think you're going to get it anyway.

he will do it anwyas becasue hes scum

[Calix]

It's funny because all I've done with you the past few posts is use your own logic against you.

By that, I mean that I've just been borrowing from posts that you've made in past games to see how you'd react.

Mainly because you're not the slightest bit bothered that I, your 'scum read', am pushing you using such retarded reasoning, implying that your read is bullshit because you'd be more annoyed that a scum-read is pushing you.

But mostly for the lulz

Page-topping because this is a great post ;)

[RLVG]

That was post #116. It still baffles me the extent to which you misread the setup and entirely misunderstood basic strategy for every faction, but I still have trouble wrapping my head around how you thought it could possibly be in town's best interest to never lynch in a game of mafia. How broken did you think this game was that town's best play was not to play?

What I thought (not what I think now) :

The SK has 2 targets to kill. If we lynch one of the targets, the SK instead has to achieve majority including versus town.
If the SK kills the 2 targets, it can win together with the town.

= Don't lynch the potential emperor/town leader, have them slaughtered instead.

[MattZed]

I love he uses being Town-read by people as leverage.

Please stop being obtuse. I feel like you're not actually reading what I'm saying, lol.

Don't respond to this. I don't think you're going to get it anyway.

Calix, just because I respond to something, that doesn't mean I thought that was your main point. I respond to what seems the most out of place. You want me to play more aggressively and go after new scumreads, to which I'm just "meh" at this point. Sure, I get why it's good to push scum and why someone with your reads wouldn't be liking my angle, but I'm just not in the mood to give a deep analysis of a player before we've had any flips 2 hours before EoD.

The interesting suggestion you made was that I'm in a rough position, which I simply don't see.

[MattZed]

My response to Unknown got cut off:

. Oy, I'm not leveraging anything.

[deathworlds]

-unvote

I'm in favor of no lynching today, I suggest that sino jails ika or mesk.

[Unknown1234]

Lol at Deathworlds suggestions.

[MattZed]

What I thought (not what I think now) :

The SK has 2 targets to kill. If we lynch one of the targets, the SK instead has to achieve majority including versus town.
If the SK kills the 2 targets, it can win together with the town.

= Don't lynch the potential emperor/town leader, have them slaughtered instead.

Are you saying you thought the SK gets to remain in the game after achieving their wincon, and thus we should let the SK win the game for us instead of making them another scum we have to kill?

[Calix]

Lol at Deathworlds suggestions.

lol seriously. Let's jail a claimed player/ lurker and another semi-lurker.

GREAT PLAN.

[MattZed]

-unvote

I'm in favor of no lynching today, I suggest that sino jails ika or mesk.

Why ika? Last I checked, your scumreads were me and Mesk. What's changed?

(honest question; not accusing you of faking reads here. I want to know.)

[deathworlds]

Lol at Deathworlds suggestions.

I'm the most unsure about their alignments atm, hence my suggestion of additional interrogation and jail.

[ika]

lol seriously. Let's jail a claimed player/ lurker and another semi-lurker.

GREAT PLAN.

im a semi-lurker?

[RLVG]

Are you saying you thought the SK gets to remain in the game after achieving their wincon, and thus we should let the SK win the game for us instead of making them another scum we have to kill?

Yepp.

I'm the smartest person in the world.

[deathworlds]

lol seriously. Let's jail a claimed player/ lurker and another semi-lurker.

GREAT PLAN.

You seem to forget that the jailer can also interrogate them.

For fucks sake calix

[ika]

I'm the most unsure about their alignments atm, hence my suggestion of additional interrogation and jail.

you could talk to me you know?

[Unknown1234]

Why would you honestly think jailing Mesk comes with benefits?

[Unknown1234]

I'm switching out RLVG for Yzb on my list.

[Calix]

You seem to forget that the jailer can also interrogate them.

For fucks sake calix

K, Mr. I'm Defending Myself Against Someone I "Scum-Read" And Got Trolled By.

[deathworlds]

I'd rather jail a null than a total scum read, because the more information we can get from the nulls the better.

[MattZed]

lol seriously. Let's jail a claimed player/ lurker and another semi-lurker.

GREAT PLAN.

DW has already made abundantly clear that he finds Mesk's claim to be utterly meaningless. He may well suspect her claim would change in jail.

But the more important conclusion is that DW is clearly thinking in terms of people he'd want to see executed.

Though, why the hell are you characterizing ika, someone with 100 posts, (5th most) as a semi-lurker?

[ika]

You seem to forget that the jailer can also interrogate them.

For fucks sake calix

whats sino gonna say to mesk? mesk is litarly goign to do the "execute me idgaf"

and i would sit there doing what im doing here and talk to people. so i dont get it?

[yzb25]

-unvote

Calix, fix your morbid desire for discord/drama. You're supposed to be an adult now, scrub.

Anyway, sorry for low-activity. I'll try and give y'all a better yzb on d2. I'm gonna retire.

[Calix]

I thought Mesk was a scum-read because of her claim or some shit.

kek

[deathworlds]

K, Mr. I'm Defending Myself Against Someone I "Scum-Read" And Got Trolled By.

My vote was probably emotion fueled tbh.

[SilverWolf]

-unvote

I'm in favor of no lynching today, I suggest that sino jails ika or mesk.

You are so all over the place in your reads and opinions I have no idea what your thought process actually is which is more scum indicative thatn town.

[Unknown1234]

Mesk is probably the worst jail choice in the entire game. We know her claim, and she won't talk.

[deathworlds]

Mesk is probably the worst jail choice in the entire game. We know her claim, and she won't talk.

Her claim is fucking meaningless.

[Calix]

My vote was probably emotion fueled tbh.

Dude, you made several points against me.

I didn't even bother responding to your points, that's how crappy they are.

And you completely forgot about that because you just tried to characterise your vote as 'emotionally based' when it clearly wasn't.

Obvious scum, pls execute.

[Unknown1234]

-unvote

Calix, fix your morbid desire for discord/drama. You're supposed to be an adult now, scrub.

Anyway, sorry for low-activity. I'll try and give y'all a better yzb on d2. I'm gonna retire.

Lol, Yzb lurks, then makes a post about leaving.

*face palm*

[ika]

omg now i see why deaht is tryingn to pawn it off

sino said hes gonna jail him. hes trying to be survialistic

[ika]

Her claim is fucking meaningless.

by your logic then all cliams are irrelivant and we shoudl jsut lynch with or without claims

[deathworlds]

I thought Mesk was a scum-read because of her claim or some shit.

kek

Her actual CLAIM is meaningless.

Her reasoning behind her claim and her defense of her "claim" is what's making me think she's scum.

[secondpassing]

DW has already made abundantly clear that he finds Mesk's claim to be utterly meaningless. He may well suspect her claim would change in jail.

But the more important conclusion is that DW is clearly thinking in terms of people he'd want to see executed.

Though, why the hell are you characterizing ika, someone with 100 posts, (5th most) as a semi-lurker?

I find ika rather hard to read. Maybe it's his punctuation or his bad spelling/careless spelling or that he chooses to talk about things I don't care about when playing mafia.
I wouldn't mind ika being jailed, but I would like Sino to try to execute whoever his target is.

[deathworlds]

by your logic then all cliams are irrelivant and we shoudl jsut lynch with or without claims

She claimed, with zero pressure, on the third page, and plays it off like it automatically makes her town.

It's is vastly different than sinos claim, which actually has relevance.

[Calix]

I find ika rather hard to read. Maybe it's his punctuation or his bad spelling/careless spelling or that he chooses to talk about things I don't care about when playing mafia.
I wouldn't mind ika being jailed, but I would like Sino to try to execute whoever his target is.

This is the scum with DW.

lol

[ika]

I find ika rather hard to read. Maybe it's his punctuation or his bad spelling/careless spelling or that he chooses to talk about things I don't care about when playing mafia.
I wouldn't mind ika being jailed, but I would like Sino to try to execute whoever his target is.

does this mean i ahve more ??? now?

also you could aske me questions like i said to DW too

[RLVG]

Mesk is probably the worst jail choice in the entire game. We know her claim, and she won't talk.

Mesk isn't the worst. Mesk claimed this :

1. As scum, doesn't claim Citizen.
2. As Town, claim Citizen.
3. When claiming Citizen, means Citizen or TPR.

= Super selfconcious on selfmeta and using it as an advantage.



I'm the worst : I hardclaimed Citizen that's not a leader.

[MattZed]

I find ika rather hard to read. Maybe it's his punctuation or his bad spelling/careless spelling or that he chooses to talk about things I don't care about when playing mafia.
I wouldn't mind ika being jailed, but I would like Sino to try to execute whoever his target is.

Why do you prefer to see an execution? Is it because you want flips?

[deathworlds]

Dude, you made several points against me.

I didn't even bother responding to your points, that's how crappy they are.

And you completely forgot about that because you just tried to characterise your vote as 'emotionally based' when it clearly wasn't.

Obvious scum, pls execute.

I honestly don't care that you think I'm scum because your points are basically just "bad play, gtfo".

[ika]

She claimed, with zero pressure, on the third page, and plays it off like it automatically makes her town.

It's is vastly different than sinos claim, which actually has relevance.

but your orginal post said her lciam is meaningless. so following what you said, all claims are meanignless. now you are trying to change the narrative

am i doing it right @Calix ?

[SilverWolf]

Please jail deathworlds, if not him then secondpassing, if you need a third do SuperJack if he doesn't come back and post something good before EoD.

[Unknown1234]

This is why Mesk is the worst jail choice:

Mesk (in jail): I knew you wanted to stick you dick in me. Kbye.

[ika]

I honestly don't care that you think I'm scum because your points are basically just "bad play, gtfo".

shes using your own play aagisnt you so she does have a point.

[deathworlds]

This is the scum with DW.

lol

So you think that secondpassing is scum with me because we both mind melded, despite my mind meld with RLVG who seems to be a town read of yours?

k.

[RLVG]

Please jail deathworlds, if not him then secondpassing, if you need a third do SuperJack if he doesn't come back and post something good before EoD.

SW, what's your input on Mesk?

[Calix]

I honestly don't care that you think I'm scum because your points are basically just "bad play, gtfo".

Minimising the points against yourself and discrediting me at the same time.

Making excuses for your scum play as well, tsk tsk.

Add a dose of contradictory explanations because you "voted emotionally for me" but you "don't care that I think you're scum" kek

Classic scum behaviour

[ika]

This is why Mesk is the worst jail choice:

Mesk (in jail): I knew you wanted to stick you dick in me. Kbye.

im laughing too hard right now.

i was expecint no talking at all by mesk or just rage induced spam

[MattZed]

but your orginal post said her lciam is meaningless. so following what you said, all claims are meanignless. now you are trying to change the narrative

am i doing it right @Calix ?

ika, I don't see why you're trying to straw DW here? He argued Mesk's claim is irrelevant because she wasn't under pressure and she makes it every game, thus it is a poor indication of alignment or even role. But he's not saying that claims in general don't indicate alignment or role.