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    Re: S-FM President

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    One thing I don't understand is why Bush was insisting that if we chose to lynch Clinton, then we should elect Bush president but if we chose to lynch Reagan then we should elect Clinton. Either way if we mislynch we lose, so why would we elect Bush rather than Reagan in that scenario given Reagan would basically be confirmed town if Clinton ended up being scum?
    We can't vote for President after the Lynch happens tho, so we can't really plan ahead for that. I think we should actually vote JFK.

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    Re: S-FM President

    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    Do you think people would've lynched him if he had outed himself as a former Investigator? He certainly seemed to think so
    I think if he had just said it much earlier and explained the reasoning behind it he would have been fine. It was really a useless role if his ploy to become the survivor president had lasted because there would never have been another presidential vote anyway. I get that he wanted maybe to see if anybody would claim the same role before he revealed, but I feel like there could be duplicates anyway so that wasn't a good strategy and he died for it.

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    Re: S-FM President

    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    We can't vote for President after the Lynch happens tho, so we can't really plan ahead for that. I think we should actually vote JFK.
    My point is that if we mislynch we lose anyway so if we were going to make it a binary choice between the two of them, then it makes sense to elect the other president, rather than some other random person who could be scum.

    I agree about JFK, he's the most likely person we could get all of the town to actually vote together on since I think he is universally town-read. Jefferson and Bush I think have not claimed roles too so there is maybe still some WIFOM that Kennedy does not die tonight, plus if you are town you also have a chance to roleblock the mafia. If we could be sure that somebody else is town though it would be preferable for them to be president so JFK can protect them, else we would just be in MYLO again the next day with a dead president.

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    Re: S-FM President

    I need to think this through

    If we correctly Lynch a mafia today, and we elect a President, they lose one vote and we gain two votes. It will be 5v3 tomorrow if I role block the right person or 4v3 if I fail to role block

    If we keep JFK as a Body Double, we'll 100% have a living President tomorrow, giving us 6 or 7 votes

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    Re: S-FM President

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    I suppose one thing that makes me lean Trump more towards scum too is that we cannot seem to find any reasonable group of 3 people, and trump being scum means that at best we would be able to find a pair that was aligned
    In that event Trump is the one who got sent in for a kill

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    Re: S-FM President

    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    So Jefferson and Trump are scum? Who else though? Bush?
    I guess that would make sense? Bush and Jefferson have had a pretty open love affair about their whole "quality over quantity" thing and did use that line to discredit a bunch of people without responding to them too.

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    Re: S-FM President

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    I guess that would make sense? Bush and Jefferson have had a pretty open love affair about their whole "quality over quantity" thing and did use that line to discredit a bunch of people without responding to them too.
    I think the only likely scum team that excludes Bush is Jefferson/Trump/Roosevelt, with Obama actually being Turncoat

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    Re: S-FM President

    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    I think the only likely scum team that excludes Bush is Jefferson/Trump/Roosevelt, with Obama actually being Turncoat
    Well if Obama were turncoat he wouldn't have voted for himself as he claimed, and he probably would have actually voted for Washington. Then he'd be aligned with the scum anyway so I don't think they would waste a kill on him.

    and the other two neutral possibilities don't make sense, since survivor and sponsor would probably have counterclaimed Washington plus survivor can vest

    So I would say at this point with Obama dead that it's pretty much guaranteed that Teddy is indeed turncoat

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    Re: S-FM President

    Quote Originally Posted by George Bush View Post
    Do not talk about who the scum should elect. That's called open wolfing and is grounds for instant lynch.
    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    Well if Obama were turncoat he wouldn't have voted for himself as he claimed, and he probably would have actually voted for Washington. Then he'd be aligned with the scum anyway so I don't think they would waste a kill on him.

    and the other two neutral possibilities don't make sense, since survivor and sponsor would probably have counterclaimed Washington plus survivor can vest

    So I would say at this point with Obama dead that it's pretty much guaranteed that Teddy is indeed turncoat
    So the only possible scum teams at this point are Reagan/Jefferson/Trump or Bush/Jefferson/Trump?

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    Re: S-FM President

    Quote Originally Posted by George Bush View Post
    Do not talk about who the scum should elect. That's called open wolfing and is grounds for instant lynch.
    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    So the only possible scum teams at this point are Reagan/Jefferson/Trump or Bush/Jefferson/Trump?
    Though Trump could easily be Turncoat himself

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    Re: S-FM President

    Quote Originally Posted by George Bush View Post
    okay i gotta stop again. I read more pages.

    WHAT THE FUCK IS LINCOLN ON.

    Lincoln voted Bill??? why??? They're our pretty much confirmed town assassin.

    Also, Lincoln was saying(?) that mafia kills people who scum read them day 1. then Lincoln says they don't know how to interpret Truman's (effective) last will, and THEN says that jefferson should be lynched bc truman TOWN READ HIM?

    WHAT THE FUCK THIS MAKES NO SENSE.

    3 SCUMS AND I DON'T KNOW WHO TO VOTE.

    Also, I"m not dead weight. I'm making posts when I can, not lurking. But I can't post 200 times in an hour, as it seems Lincoln, JFK, and others are.

    COntinuing the catch up.
    Bullshit, that's not what I said.

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    Re: S-FM President

    Quote Originally Posted by George Bush View Post
    Do not talk about who the scum should elect. That's called open wolfing and is grounds for instant lynch.
    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    @Donald Trump

    You can start by telling me your take on things.
    I swear to God, if you're town, you must contribute... or else I'm pretty sure you'll get infracted over this game.

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    Re: S-FM President

    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    Trump is not playing optimally as town, I'm convinced he would at least be scum hunting as town. He's just WIFOMing like crazy. I think Trump should be our NUMBER ONE Lynch

    @George Bush
    @Richard Nixon
    @Dutes hammer him
    @Bill Clinton
    I don’t think we can lynch him though. I do think he’s scum but I’m still uncomfortable with a toss-up like that deciding the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    Kennedy - This is I think my only for sure town-read. He is the only person alive(rip Washington) other than goddamn ROOSEVELT who I would say ever actively pushed or scum-hunted at all. Yes, the flow of the game with all this focus on presidents and neutrals really did take away from the opportunity to ever do much of any scumhunting and so the fact that I feel like Kennedy was genuinely trying in spite of that makes him my confident town-read. Plenty of people have had me on scum lists since early D1 and yet Kennedy was really the only one who actually pushed me - it has felt to me that most of these other scumreads on me are fake (ex: Bush saying he remembers he had a legit reason to scum read me but not what it is, and yet continuously putting me as his top scum; Reagan just saying I'm scum cuz I didn't give a readslist when I spent 6 hours responding to and analyzing and giving my opinion on literally every post (sorry for the spam guys); Jefferson sheeping both Kennedy and Reagan and saying "too confident + didn't give readslist")

    Clinton - We all agreed during D1 that no scum would have the balls to claim Assassin like that. While Clinton has IMO been pretty dumb about the way he was constantly threatening to shoot people and then apparently shooting Obama, my opinion here is still that he is town. If he were scum and trying to mislynch Reagan then I think he would be Bruiser and still have his ability and so he could just shoot somebody and win the game for scum. So I am basically going to assume he is town since otherwise we've already lost anyway.

    Bush - Something he recently did gave him major townpoints for me, but it could be a bad thing to hide. I think I have to do some more analysis of potential d4 scenarios before I commit to him completely as a town-read.

    Reagan - I was scumreading him but my current theory on what the scum strat is for today would make him town. More on that next post.

    Trump - Of course he's just null from his own contributions but he fits into the scum team I have in mind.

    Jefferson - I have been scumreading him for most of the game because his few posts seem pre-meditated to gain him town points and he just sheeps opinions constantly. He also fits into the scum team I have in mind.


    Lincoln - Here's what I think. He was a townread

    Note: from this point on I had to rewrite my post because when I hit submit it said I was logged out and only auto-saved the top half, so forgive me if I skipped through some of the detail

    for me and everyone in the lobby for most of the game because of his constant flip-flopping and "confusion", right? At start of D2 he revealed himself as escort for no reason. He claimed that mafia must have found out that he was escort and killed Truman to frame him. This is the perfect setup for a future mislynch on D3 and also gives him an alibi in case anybody saw him visit Truman. Another thing I noticed was that he occasionally would make blatantly scummy posts like "SHOOT ROOSEVELT NOW!" which even a confused town would not think is optimal halfway through D2. Then he just flip-flops a few minutes later so that he gains zero scum points for it. In this way he was helping Roosevelt peer pressure Clinton into misshooting.

    Now, what has been the biggest problem in this game for town? We have been unable to do any scumhunting/pressuring because we've been constantly stuck between lynching 2 people. D2 it was Washington and Roosevelt and now it is Clinton and Reagan. Let's say that Lincoln really is town escort and blocked Reagan, and Clinton is assassin and shot Obama. What is the smart thing to do as town: Lay all your cards out on the table at the start of the 48 hour day like Lincoln did, or push Reagan and Clinton first to see who their potential teammates are/get any damning evidence possible out of them? Of course it's the second one and Lincoln is experienced enough to know this is true. Instead he locked us right into another 1 V 1 as soon as D3 started. At best that's very anti-town IMO.


    So, in my opinion Clinton did shoot Obama and Reagan was roleblocked, but neither is scum. Mafia chose to attack nobody last night with the plan being that if Clinton doesn't shoot, then they can easily pin things on Reagan. Otherwise, if Clinton did shoot then they could easily convince everyone that their only other lynch option besides Reagan is Clinton, which is exactly what has played out. Note that a mislynch basically guarantees a scum victory at this point.


    I put Trump in a team with Lincoln because when Washington was just trying to push Trump during D2 and not really lynch him, Lincoln immediately started demanding that people unvote to avoid a turbolynch.


    I put Jefferson in there not because of his associations but because I just think he is scum separately. He has just skirted by and sheeped all game, and I especially do not like how he directly copies the people he is sheeping's specific wording too to really try and buddy up with them.
    Finally, it's about time ! It's funny how everyone is scumreading Jefferson, still he is alive and not doing shit.
    Also funny how Trump is doing the same.
    Your theory make sense, the worst part in that is, if we are all focused on me / Clinton and both of us are town, the game is almost already done ~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Trump View Post
    i will laugh when you guys realize that im citizen later
    If you are town, you are really an useless one, and I am saying it with my respect.
    I have no ideas what you are trying to accomplish, when you are town, your goal is to find scums and you should be focused on that.
    Instead you are just trolling and trying to survive. And you are not even a TPR, if you were a strong TPR who really need to survive to be useful, I could understand but you are claiming shitizen ~~

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    Re: S-FM President

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Clinton View Post
    k go fuck yourselves and never ping me again to sign up for fm I'm deleting my account and logging off this one bye
    -vote theodore roosevelt

    Peace retards
    -vote Bill Clinton


    Sheepsaymeep syndrome much? if you are town, you are an horrible player. So is Trump.
    John F. Kennedy = John Fuck Kennedy.

 

 

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