S-FM 265: Illuminati

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Lol okay. Lynch MM next because he's open-wolfing. He literally said he would play pro-town as Illuminati. How is that a pro-town statement?

Because it is the truth. Because it means we must not ignore the Illuminati threat. And how is it a pro scum statement?

[Kenny]

Kenny that’s exactly what MM has been doing. He was the one who kept posting about how we should Illuminati hunt instead of going after mafia. That’s a pro mafia strategy not pro town

It's one slip up, yea.
He contributed more than just that today tho and I believe he is the player who slips like that as town.

[Distorted]

@Varnic for fucks sake type [ vote]marshmallow marshall[/vote ]

how @blinkskater thinks this MM is town is beyond me. this is 100% the MM we had when it was me and SCV as the weaponsmiths in that game. this is deja vu at this point. but blinks to fking tunneled on kenny to see shit.

[Ganelon]

FOR FUCK'S SAKE, IF DISTORTED IS ILLUMINATI HE CANNOT MISLYNCH TODAY. AND YOU NEED TO LYNCH SOMEONE TODAY, EITHER MM OR KENNY. BECAUSE LYNCHING ME. PROVES NOTHING. WHOEVER WANTS TO LYNCH ME IS FUCKING SCUM BECAUSE THEN DISTORTED IS STILL NOT CONFIRMED TOWN. FUCKING LYNCH MM OR KENNY YOU FUCKERS.

[blinkskater]

you are getting so worked by scums its ridiculous lol

Oh yeah? I don't get worked by anyone but myself

[Distorted]

It's one slip up, yea.
He contributed more than just that today tho and I believe he is the player who slips like that as town.

its you or MM. if you are town u need to gamble on MM being scum, thats it. if not you are lynched.

[Distorted]

Oh yeah? I don't get worked by anyone but myself

if ur scum, sure ur doin alright. but if town, wait till after this game lol

[Ganelon]

EVERYONE WHO VOTED ME UP IS FUCKING SCUM BECAUSE MY LYNCH IS LITERALLY WORTH ZERO POINTS. I AM NOBODY. DISTORTED HASN'T BEEN PUSHING FOR MY FUCKING LYNCH, HE'S BEEN TARGETING KENNNY AND MM. THIS IS A SCUM DRIVEN TRAIN, LYNCH WHOEVER MOVED THEIR VOTES TO ME.

-Mag out. I'm one hundred percent certain Mob would vote me at this point.

[blinkskater]

@Varnic for fucks sake type [ vote]marshmallow marshall[/vote ]

how @blinkskater thinks this MM is town is beyond me. this is 100% the MM we had when it was me and SCV as the weaponsmiths in that game. this is deja vu at this point. but blinks to fking tunneled on kenny to see shit.

MM is one of my scumreads but i'd prefer a kenny lynch today it will give us loads of information scumsorted

[Distorted]

EVERYONE WHO VOTED ME UP IS FUCKING SCUM BECAUSE MY LYNCH IS LITERALLY WORTH ZERO POINTS. I AM NOBODY. DISTORTED HASN'T BEEN PUSHING FOR MY FUCKING LYNCH, HE'S BEEN TARGETING KENNNY AND MM. THIS IS A SCUM DRIVEN TRAIN, LYNCH WHOEVER MOVED THEIR VOTES TO ME.

-Mag out. I'm one hundred percent certain Mob would vote me at this point.

yes, any train but MM is where its going. lol how no1 sees this is beyond me.

[blinkskater]

if ur scum, sure ur doin alright. but if town, wait till after this game lol

so whos manipulating my reads atm?

[Distorted]

MM is one of my scumreads but i'd prefer a kenny lynch today it will give us loads of information scumsorted

then lets fucking lynch kenny - and when i die tonight lynch MM tomorrow

-vote kenny

[Ganelon]

I refuse to Lynch anyone that isn't MM. MM is now confirmed scum in my eyes, maybe Kenny is just dumb. BUT MM IS OPEN-WOLFING. LYNCH THAT SHIT.

[Ganelon]

Never mind Kenny is voting me. Fuck that shit.

[Distorted]

I refuse to Lynch anyone that isn't MM. MM is now confirmed scum in my eyes, maybe Kenny is just dumb. BUT MM IS OPEN-WOLFING. LYNCH THAT SHIT.

exactly, but blink claiming vigi and willing to bring down the whole game if he doesnt get his way, may as well give him his lynch. lol this is just retarded at this point.

[blinkskater]

then lets fucking lynch kenny - and when i die tonight lynch MM tomorrow

-vote kenny

how will you die tonight when im killing you tomorrow, (___l____)lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllD~~~~~~~ t('.'t)

[Distorted]

exactly, but blink claiming vigi and willing to bring down the whole game if he doesnt get his way, may as well give him his lynch. lol this is just retarded at this point.

MM and mag are scum, but not a team.

[Ganelon]

@Distorted want me to hammer? You are the only confirmed town at this point in the game, I'll trust whatever you say. MM is scummier than Kenny and Kenny is fucking open-wolfing by voting me.

[Ganelon]

MM and mag are scum, but not a team.

I'm not scum lol. I'm town with you.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

then lets fucking lynch kenny - and when i die tonight lynch MM tomorrow

-vote kenny

Vigi can't shoot N1. Mafia, if you want to shoot someone, it is Distorted.

-vote Kenny

I'm good with that lynch, and I'm not a fucking scum. And even less scum with him. Hasta la vista, baby.

[The Godfather]

Kenny has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Kenny (5 [L-0]): blinkskater, AIVION, Distorted, Marshmallow Marshall, Gyrlander
Marshmallow Marshall (2 [L-3]): Magoroth, Varnic
Magoroth (1 [L-4]): Kenny

[naz]

Kenny was lynched! His role was Citizen.

His last will was found:

Spoiler : noods jk :( Kenny lw :

Blink scumpainted me. I'm on mobile and won't write down all his posts for you lazy shits, but I was scumpainted by blink.
Mag fell for my blinkmafia trap, Mag tried holding his vote on me and failed to provide roasons that'd justify that vote, and Mag was bussing with blink in a very mafia-ish way.

Gyrlander and Distorted seem like the prime candidates for illuminati to me.
If the game does not stop after 2 mafia flips I'd instantly go for Distorted and take him down. He's building his castle here and clearly he's only showing us what he wants, and not everything he has to offer.

Everyone else is a strong townread for me.

Please take blink down now. He scumpainted me and Mag sheeped, lied and didn't offer shit himself.

Lore :


Day 2 starting in:

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[naz]

ILLUMiNΔTI???

Link to Setup


Day Two
Last night @Varnic was murdered!

4 votes to hammer.

Living	Graveyard
@magoroth @AIVION @Gyrlander @Marshmallow Marshall @blinkskater @aamirus @Distorted	Ψ(`´ # )↝ @Kenny - Citizen @Varnic

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Day One
Day Three
End of Game

remember ! play nice (3 strikes you're out) & make a minimum of 5 relevant game posts a day ! some of u have already been warned in private.

[Ganelon]

I received no night feedback last night.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

What the fuck, 1: how did he die, vigi cant shoot n1 and he's not jani'd and 2: why did he die????

[blinkskater]

Did host fuck up?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I made a big, BIIIIIIG post during the night. It was made on discord and I couldn't use multiquote so excuse the format lol. There's a TL;DR at the end if you don't want to read it fully yet, but I would really like you to read it fully today. Copypaste time.

[Ganelon]

Did host fuck up?

I think this is the kind of scenario where we should just pretend we didn't see anything.

[naz]

GOD DAMNIT I FUCKED UP I POSTED VARNICS ROLE IT WAS CIT MY DUCKING BAD

[naz]

TOO MANT PPL SAW FUCK ME IN THE FACE

[blinkskater]

I think this is the kind of scenario where we should just pretend we didn't see anything.

See what?

[Ganelon]

I think you can trust Distorted. His play doesn't make sense as any sort of scum right now. It's far too risky and I don't see him pulling off votes off somebody this early into the game. It's consistent with what he has been doing the whole game - watching for pressure and vote reactions. You can trust him. Whoever is trying to push the whole 'HE'S INNOCENT CHILD BUT HE'S NOT CONFIRMED TOWN' bullshit is 100% scum. Town need to stay together in this and Distorted is pretty townish. MM is open-wolfing with his claim of playing pro-town as Illuminati. It just seeds distrust in a save that is already filled with distrust. Blink... I for one would say that he is scum, but Distorted seems to townread him.... I don't know. Again if blink is scum then his play really doesn't make sense there because he'll get fucked IMMEDIATELY next day if Distorted flips town. Idk who MM's scummate is. I have no idea. Whoever is trying to deepen the WIFOM is scum with MM. Maybe it's Kenny. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it were him.



Update 1: I see MM in a possible Team with Gyrlander. Gyrlander wasn't necessarily doing townish things. D1-EoD results in a pretty strong nullread, they didn't play from a town/scum perspective up to EoD. They defended, both directly and indirectly, MM by voting Kenny. blink is also a potential scum partner of MM's. If you're Mafia, and you shot me, well gg for you. I had the potential to uncover Illuminati (albeit an extremely unlikely one).


There was a very strong resistance to lynching MM, in spite of his being widely scumread. No other lynch had that much resistance. I believe MM and Gyrlander are Mafia. If this is true, =)


Best play as Escort right now, since that is what aamirus claimed, is to either roleblock me, Gyrlander or MM. Distorted can't be anything other than Infiltrator or real IC, so there's no point in roleblocking him or checking him. If there's a Sheriff they should check me, MM, or Gyrlander. One of them.

My thoughts on Kenny's lynch:
a) He was acting scummy as fuck when he asked me "to reveal if I am Mason with blink". That seems to have been a poorly worded way of asking if I'm teamed with blink, but it's highly unfortunate and hopefully they won't be doing that next game again as town. His flyswatter trap is also kind of dumb.

b) Scum defended MM by voting Kenny. Nobody defended Kenny and people were making up arguments as to why Kenny is scum even if he flips town. Now, PERSONALLY, I would not be surprised if here actually Illuminati, but it's impossible to know FOR SURE and thus irrelevant.


c) Whoever voted me after MM's lynch gained traction was open-wolfing. This was an information lynch; if MM flips town, then Distorted is fucked. HOWEVER, nobody wanted to lynch MM and instead moved their votes to me (at first) and then to Kenny. Scummy as fuck - Distorted actually tried to move the votes off of Kenny at that point. Not lynching whoever Distorted wants leaves his alignment in limbo. It's scummy af in my opinion to be voting me at that point.

d) Varnic is a nullread. Hasn't posted enough. Nothing scummy or townish because none of the posts are gamerelated.

e) AIVION seemed to be mildly AFK at EoD. May be useful to investigate that further, but otherwise seems townish. My strongest scum reads are MM and Gyrlander (by association and due to what happened at EoD). Gyrlander is iMO far scummier than blinkskater... blinkskater doesn't seem all that scummy. His play at EoD1 doesn't make sense from any town/scum perspective LOL.

TL;DR Lynch MM and Gyrlander.

Update No.2:

aamirus' escort claim is weird as fuck. I don't trust that. I'll be surprised as fuck if they don't die tonight. They're probably consort if they survive, unless they manage to role block a Mafia.

Upon a reread of the thread, I've come to realize that aamirus is also definitely a potential scum partner of MM's. MM is the central node in this and I believe the lynches should proceed as thus follows:

MM-> Gyrlander -> Aamirus

Gyrlander is a little less scummier than aamirus. aamirus unvoted MM right when I asked someone to hammer.

-Mag out.

[blinkskater]

Anywho i just want to point out kennys LW.... Read it he is still saying lynch blink LOL

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Spoiler : My catch-up comment post :

Distorted, post #999: thats part of my reason for scumreading her. she likes to formulate these "pre emptive" attacks to justify her actions by making up how other people will react to what she does. its very passive aggressive and i just see no town benefit behind it. It is about Aamirus. I agree with this post, honestly. Aamirus is scummy, but so is nearly everyone... Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post This is making you look so scummy tbh. You're basically saying you want to keep the possibilty of you being in either a mafia or a mason team specifically with the player blink open. Everyone else who was asked this question instantly denied and I beliveve you, too, should choose an option now. Are you mason with blink? Or do you not have a team of that sort? @Magoroth Magoroth: Nah you ASKED me if I'm mason with him. I don't buy that. I'm not moving my vote. Yeah that's scummy... Magoroth is right: mason hunting definetly hurts town. +townpoints to him.
Gyrlander: I am suspecting Kenny even more. Is it me or is his play much different from S-FM One Thousand Rolecards? Even your way of writing has changed lol, what's these shitty 2 sentences in different rows posts?

So Gyrlander scum hunted a bit, at least. He might be town, after all... Still a slight scum lean, at page 21 atm. 50 posts/page.

Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
sorry, but saying someone 'has been scum the times they do this' and it falls into their scum meta ect ect, followed up by "but its NAI". i call that being overly cautious. if they are sitting in their scum meta, why not have a slight scum lead? how does it all of a sudden become NAI and make a null read? why even say it? i understand for purposes of pushing, but she didnt follow it with a push. it seems like its legitimately there to try and throw confusion.

Aamirus: I’m gonna asssume this is another bait cuz I clearly never said his constant fake claiming is scummy at any point and so can’t be accused of pulling back a push on something I had no intention of pushing

Eeeeeh. Distorted is making stuff up, and he keeps doing it. I really think he might be Infiltrator. @Distorted , why did you keep pushing about that? Aamirus said several times what she restated there, yet you still say she has been pushing me for it. Why?
Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
Wait what? Weren’t you just saying blink was a strong town read?

Magoroth: Man you guys are being really obvious about going for the low hanging fruit and omgussing
Him being a strong town read doesn't mean he is actually town tho, power wolfing is a thing.

So.... you're saying you strongly townread Blink at that time, but think he's scum?
Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
Him being a strong town read doesn't mean he is actually town tho, power wolfing is a thing.
Alright I read this post and I have to rephrase. Let me put it this way. Blink's not acting very scummy, but he does have a few posts that ring 'no-no' to me. Such as his scum reading me for being defensive at. first and then scum reading. me for being 'not here' it isn't enough to scum read him, but it's a bit weird and (in conjuncture with other thoughts, as well as a possible Kenny-blink team), I would not be totally opposed to a blink Lynch today, but I wouldn't exactly be up in arms over it and it would only come as a complete last resort. I want a Kenny Lynch, or I'd even Lynch you first before blink. Though my main target at this time is Kenny.

..... no. You're willing to lynch Blink without scumreading him is basically what you're saying. Now you say it is last resort. Why do you talk about it, then? Why do you say he's somehow scummy?
Kenny: Isn't it the other way around? The last few pots here looked more like I'm targeting you while you are being defensive. Can you show where you have been targeting me and I responded scummy to those posts directed at me?

Right after the post from Mag I just quoted. Mag was deflecting Kenny's push by attacking Mag, since he was accused of being defensive. Makes sense... yet scummy. I wish I had time to read that stuff before I hammered x.x I would have voted mag.... yet maybe Kenny was Illuminati, given the scumminess and the out of town meta factors.
Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
Anyway @Distorted let me know if I’m actually a lynch target closer to EOD
Distorted: nah i'm more thinking about mag, kenny, MM. slanting towards the mag or kenny route since MM will continue to feed info, even if he is squirming.

I still have a scum lean on you, but you still make more sense than them.......lol

That's not TvT.
Distorted: ya, i figured its beneficial. if mafia doenst attack me that can really help us find if illuminati exist which helps mafia and town. if i die that will confirm there is 0 doctors. and we have a 9 person setup. using D1 to debate as many of the 8 other people as possible is good. if we have illuminati that makes for a 50% chance of a successful scum lynch (taking away manipulation). I have blink and Varnic as town, so that leaves 6 people, 4 of them potentially scum.

Why do you townread Varnic? He has done absolutely NOTHING towny.... only posted like 3 times and parked a vote on me, said his scumreads were Mag and myself, and didn't explain why. 10/10 town. Distorted, that makes 0 sense.
AIVION: Current Wagonomics for my sake: Kenny (3 [L-2]): blinkskater, Magoroth, Gyrlander Varnic (1 [L-4]): AIVION blinkskater (1 [L-4]): Kenny aamirus (1 [L-4]): Marshmallow Marshall Marshmallow Marshall (2 [L-3]): aamirus, Varnic I'd like people to state who they're voting and why to help me out as I try to read this best I can. (I can say my vote on Varnic was way back when I felt his one post and nothing else was particularly shifty when we were just then generating discussion). Townreading AIVION. He's being overall helpful, and seems to be willing to contribute and is scum hunting. And he said he had been up for 30 hours straight, so that adds to it lol.
Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
Distorted: I'm voting Kenny because of posts 900-1050. In my eyes he's. confirmed scum.
i have never seen u this sure of anything, ever in FM.

Distorted has a point here.
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post763237 is completely scummy. That's legit scumpainting with stuff that was declared fake or explained by the accused players. I do not buy that. +scumpoints to Distorted.
Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
Can I throw something at you for using meta reads to Lynch someone after this? I'm a bit hypocritical bc my read on MM is pretty much a gut read LOL. But my acting 'out of character' isn't true because you've seen me play on narrator and I SPECIFICALLY stated I was aching to try out this new play style in FM. This is mostly something that is supposed to convince you that I am town because it's very conjectural. Also, you have seen me play this way as town on narrator as well, and we wanted to Lynch each other at one point lol
Distorted: narrator cant be compared to FM imo.... completely different game.

True, but you're ignoring what he's saying: he TOLD YOU that he wanted to use that play style IN FORUM MAFIA GAMES.
@AIVION Post #1082 is gambler's fallacy. The way to know if there are Illuminati or not is to look at behaviors IMO, and then flips. I know this has started an argument before, and I don't want it to be restarted because it doesn't give anything but tunnels, it's not pro town.

I think we should scumhunt more than debate about this lol.
Gyrlander's posts, #1083-84 read as town to me.
Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
Wait, can you explain the Varnic read?
Blink: yeah, I think distorted said it best earlier, Out of Varnics first few posts it seemed like he rolled a CIT, and was just like Aw crap this games gonna be boring ASF, and for his first FM game to me that's a HUGE town tell

Hm, I didn't think of that! Good point.
Quote Originally Posted by AIVION View Post
So you speak finally.

May I ask what your current thoughts are so far?
Gyrlander: Thoughts: I don't like aamirus and Kenny. I'm starting to feel better about Mag. I feel like MM is not having an impact as he normally has so that gives me bad vibes. I like Dist and think his thoughts are well formed, ironically, him revealing as IC is something I do not like and has damaged my image of him. Blink is kind of I don't know about this man, it's hard for me to get a read on him.

The rest, no idea. lol.

So Gyrlander is a town read for me. This is the Gyrlander we all know and praise. That post comes from a Town PoV, and stuff like "Ironically his IC reveal has damaged his image" is a strong town tell to me.

Also AIVION, will you ever trust me? : (
Quote Originally Posted by Varnic View Post
Wow. I leave the thread for like 2 hours, come back to 11 new pages of useless shitposting?! AINT NOBODY GOT TIME FO DAT.

1. Someone give me a consolidated list of role claims so far, kthx.
2. Distorted is scum 90% of the time in game, so call me Nostradamus when hes revealed.
AIVION: ...What the fuck?

I don't even...

XD yep. @Varnic it would be nice if you could detail your reads a bit...
Quote Originally Posted by AIVION View Post
Can you go into more Detail on the Aamirus read for you? I want to know your meta analysis on MM since I actually did notice you played a lot of FM with him and would like another person's perspective on it.

So that means everyone else is a Null read to you?
Gyrlander: Tbh, I cannot tell you much about aamirus. It's just that I read her posts and I suddenly felt a stream of anger and did not want to read her posts. I wonder what caused that. Don't like D1 role claims neither. About MM I believe I've said everything I can for now, I'm not feeling he's really in the game as he is in others.

yez.

Yep, Gyrlander is right, I've not been in the game as I usually am. THIS SHALL CHANGE TODAY. ANAR'ELAH BELORE!!!
Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
Well I wrote my lw.
I don't see where I acted scummy, I was active and scumhunting throughout the entire day.
There were constant votes with no backing words whatsoever against me, noone bothered standing up or even reading what I'm writing and overall I do not even feel properly scumpainted.
This is a scumdriven train and a lazy town that probably doesn't care about what's happening here.
Once you see my flip take a step back and see what happened please.
I did everything a townie with my role could possibly do.
Cya.
I'm not moving my vote today.
Gyrlander: Thing is, even if you flip Town we could just have detected ILLUMINATI

And I think that's what just happened : D
Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
Thing is, even if you flip Town we could just have detected ILLUMINATI
Distorted: who would be illuiminati if he flipped town?

Well, maybe you, especially given your following post:


Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
Are you his illuminati partner?
Distorted: you cant seriously think he is mafia or illuminati. nobody is standing up for him and he is not even pushing that hard to stay alive. he is not even claiming a TPR or trying to BS to keep alive. if he was scum he would feel like hes letting his partner down.

He's not saying he's not illuminati xD
Distorted unvoted very fast when he saw the hammer didn't work.... and I wonder if he could have literally saw Mag's vote to fake a "hammer" attempt on Kenny lol. One minute passed between their two posts.
Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post Mag wtf are you doing Distorted: blink is getting desparate for this lynch. -vote marshmallow marshall i think im pushing here today. Aah, that's the train on me.... Lmao. A redirection. Great.
Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post Fail. Also @blink. I'd rather take an extra hour of discussion over a quick hammer. Kenny isn't even here. Distorted: no, kenny left which makes me think he is town. blink is pushing this HARD and MM is the alternative. i think it may be blink/MM. kenny/MM is still possible since kenny scapegaoted everyone but MM, but MM is the common denominator here so im pushing for MM. And here you're putting me and blink together. You have literally put me with every single player in this game, out of Varnic. Literally. You're not forming associative reads, you're making an idea then make the facts fit your reads, instead of what would do a town: make your reads fit the facts. What is fucking confusing is that you do that as town sometimes. That kind of play, as town, is as good as counter claiming Crier. So if you really are town, PLEASE STOP THAT in next games.
About Illuminati flips. If someone was really scummy but flipped town, I think we can assume he was Illuminati.
And now on page 24, people are saying I'm scum with Blink. GREAT...
Magoroth: Honestly, Kenny's bullshit about my revealing whether I am Mason or not with blink is scummy as fuck, but maybe they phrased it poorly. Nevertheless, I don't see how Distorted would. survive tonight if he's not speaking the truth.

Backpedaling much? You do that as scum, not as town. Cautious as scum, not as town. You have "convinced" moments as scum, not as town. So, I tend to believe that you're playing this game as scum, not as town. Meaning that you might be scum, not town...
Magoroth:

-vote Marshmallow Marshall


Honestly I think blink is way scummier than MM right now. But if blink is town we'll lose him

.................................................. ...................................really?
Distorted: im thinking its MM and blink. they have had almost no interaction today also and usually they heavy push eachother. MM has been completely off. i do find it VERY STRAGNE kenny isnt voting MM. so thats my clue to this may be kenny and MM

You said that 5 times in a row with the same arguments, so I guess I'll reply xD
I have pushed Blink at start of game, but then some posts screamed town to me. You keep saying I'm "off". I already explained many, MANY times that I was busy IRL, I was working, I was tired, hungry, and tried to change my meta. I really hope this is the last time I have to address those bullshit accusations. And the same goes for the "AAMIRUS SCUMREADS YOU FOR CLAIMING MULTIPLE ROLES" bullshit.
I think that when Blink and Distorted jump at each other, there is ALWAYS one of them being scum... At page 24, my two head suspects are Distorted and Magoroth, Distorted being the most scummy. Hell, I'm saying a revealed IC is the most scummy player seriously
Gyrlander: Welp, and MM suddenly became the most voted train. He's not even here lol.

YYYYYYYYYYYEP. I'm obviously being defended by my "scummates".
Magoroth: Holy fuck MM is at L-1

O shit, I've been at L-1 at page 24?? While I was taking a nap???? REALLY GUYS??????????? -.-
Distorted: It's the fact that people are already prepping for kenny to be a town flip. Kenny himslef just kinda gave up. MM and kenny have not been pushing eachother at all but yet they are each others lynches.

how hard did MM push kenny actually? i think he did a bit but did he put REAL pressure?

I would call putting at L-1 real pressure. And I'd call unvoting from that L-1 instantly FAKE PRESSURE, Distorted.
Gyrlander: DO NOT LYNCH MY MM BOY HE HASNT EVEN PUSHED ME THIS IS WRONG.


Distorted: I already revealed as innocent child, i am literally confirmed that role.

NO YOU ARE NOT. And it's what you're trying to make us believe but it's FALSE. It's why I think you're an illuminatus. Vade retro satana.
Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
Why do I get the feeling that list is shit? Specially the Mag and MM mafia part.
Distorted: mags willing to hammer MM over kenny, not sure how that makes mag and MM scum partners lol

REMEMBER THIS POST. I AM PRETTY SURE DISTORTED CONTRADICTED HIMSELF SOMEWHERE WITH THAT POST.
Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
so? are you saying scums can't vote scums? did i miss that rule or something?
Distorted: with the intent to lynch behind it, everyone has pushed kenny except MM and varnic. i even tried to hammer lol

Well I did hammer : )
Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
LET'S BE CLEAR, KENNY NOT VOTING MM TO SAVE HIS ASS CAN BE SEEN TOWNY OR SCUMMY. ASSHOLES.
Distorted: it can be seen scummy if MM is his partner.

Did you just admit scum painting me?
Aamirus: Distorted you’re sounding way too desperate. Where has your calm and cold tone gone with all the passive aggressive smiley faces? ^^
I feel like Aamirus was just making some fun of us on page 27, though... it's quite weird o.O
Gyrlander: do you really believe kenny claimed illuminati?

At the time, yes.... I didn't read everything and blink said so, and he was confirmed town....................... : (
Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
Does blink often fake claim confirmable power roles like vigi?
I kinda haven't realized illuminati can't take that role until MM pointed it out.
Distorted: how about you vote @Marshmallow Marshall ?

Desperate much?
Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
What??? How can you think Distorted is illuminati? How has he done illuminatish things, I only see townish things from him. Also you can read my LW. I feel that it's MM/Kenny, or potentially MM/Gyrlander. MM/Gyrlander seems very likely given that's been happening. I hope not to get lynched today, and to not have to claim my role either. I WILL. not be claiming my role.
Aamirus: Dude the best Illuminati strat is literally what Distorted did - confirm urself as non mafia and ask to be healed - as a result be the top town read and orchestrate the game so you and your partner stay alive until the mafia are dead - at this point since you’re the top town read it’s a cakewalk to win the game as town will lynch town.

Exactly. I think Aamirus is a member of the Mafia. Am I right, @aamirus ?
Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
He even added the EMPHASIS "lol hur durh dat wuz a hammah vote hur durh dderp"
Distorted: I really hope you are scum tbh, because if this is ur town game...i have had you overrated = (

I know I have already addressed this, but this AtE is just horribly wrong.
Gyrlander: kk I promise I won't read pages and pages and point out how everyone is so fucking oportunistic.

@Gyrlander I have you as a strong town read now lol. I did not read the stuff you had posted xD
Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
Illuminati are not town. They are Mafia. And if Distorted pushes a mislynch today, he's one hundred percent getting fucked tomorrow. Disguiser isn't a thing. If Disguiser were a thing, then yea he wouldn't be cleared as of now.
aamirus: So, nothing about this post is logical or makes any sense

I just noticed something... Aamirus kept her vote on me all EoD long, yet criticized Magoroth a lot.... Both are Mafia reads for me....... @aamirus @Magoroth are you the two Mafias? If so please tell us so we don't waste our time lynching you ;-;
aamirus: Okay now here’s the confused mag we all love and remember

yep I really think you two are mafia
Magoroth: EVERYONE WHO VOTED ME UP IS FUCKING SCUM BECAUSE MY LYNCH IS LITERALLY WORTH ZERO POINTS. I AM NOBODY. DISTORTED HASN'T BEEN PUSHING FOR MY FUCKING LYNCH, HE'S BEEN TARGETING KENNNY AND MM. THIS IS A SCUM DRIVEN TRAIN, LYNCH WHOEVER MOVED THEIR VOTES TO ME.

-Mag out. I'm one hundred percent certain Mob would vote me at this point.

I think I know your role. And it's a mafia one.
Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
exactly, but blink claiming vigi and willing to bring down the whole game if he doesnt get his way, may as well give him his lynch. lol this is just retarded at this point.
Distorted: MM and mag are scum, but not a team.

OOOOOHHOHOOHOHOHO Distorted just called me Illuminati, since he called Mag Mafia! LOL. I'm the Illuminati telling everyone to make sure to think that there might be Illuminati, and that it's more probable than not. LEGIT...
!


And so my long catch-up and reads post, which took over 3 hours to write, ends. Please read it entirely. And if you don't like it, don't blame me for spamming or for not posting enough, next time!

TL;DR: Magoroth and Aamirus are Mafia, and I'm asking them to confirm. We won't lynch you if you claim it. Distorted is highly probably Illuminati. Gyrlander and AIVION are strong town and townish reads, respectively. Blinkskater is confirmed town unless he pulled a really risky and stupid play, so I'll just say confirmed town. Varnic is uuuuh.... confusing xD idk what to say about him. I think Kenny being Illuminati is a possibility that we should think about seriously.

Thanks for reading.

[Ganelon]

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I think this is the kind of scenario where we should just pretend we didn't see anything.

We saw it tho xD too many people saw it. I guess it's not that bad XD

Also

-vote Distorted

Conclusion of my wallpost

[blinkskater]

Im going out to watch football ill be around tomorrow if you all spam the fucking thread with nonsense and tons of posts...ill take that as a scumtell cya all

[Ganelon]

Spoiler : My catch-up comment post :

Distorted, post #999: thats part of my reason for scumreading her. she likes to formulate these "pre emptive" attacks to justify her actions by making up how other people will react to what she does. its very passive aggressive and i just see no town benefit behind it. It is about Aamirus. I agree with this post, honestly. Aamirus is scummy, but so is nearly everyone... Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post This is making you look so scummy tbh. You're basically saying you want to keep the possibilty of you being in either a mafia or a mason team specifically with the player blink open. Everyone else who was asked this question instantly denied and I beliveve you, too, should choose an option now. Are you mason with blink? Or do you not have a team of that sort? @Magoroth Magoroth: Nah you ASKED me if I'm mason with him. I don't buy that. I'm not moving my vote. Yeah that's scummy... Magoroth is right: mason hunting definetly hurts town. +townpoints to him.
Gyrlander: I am suspecting Kenny even more. Is it me or is his play much different from S-FM One Thousand Rolecards? Even your way of writing has changed lol, what's these shitty 2 sentences in different rows posts?

So Gyrlander scum hunted a bit, at least. He might be town, after all... Still a slight scum lean, at page 21 atm. 50 posts/page.

Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
sorry, but saying someone 'has been scum the times they do this' and it falls into their scum meta ect ect, followed up by "but its NAI". i call that being overly cautious. if they are sitting in their scum meta, why not have a slight scum lead? how does it all of a sudden become NAI and make a null read? why even say it? i understand for purposes of pushing, but she didnt follow it with a push. it seems like its legitimately there to try and throw confusion.

Aamirus: I’m gonna asssume this is another bait cuz I clearly never said his constant fake claiming is scummy at any point and so can’t be accused of pulling back a push on something I had no intention of pushing

Eeeeeh. Distorted is making stuff up, and he keeps doing it. I really think he might be Infiltrator. @Distorted, why did you keep pushing about that? Aamirus said several times what she restated there, yet you still say she has been pushing me for it. Why?
Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
Wait what? Weren’t you just saying blink was a strong town read?

Magoroth: Man you guys are being really obvious about going for the low hanging fruit and omgussing
Him being a strong town read doesn't mean he is actually town tho, power wolfing is a thing.

So.... you're saying you strongly townread Blink at that time, but think he's scum?
Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
Him being a strong town read doesn't mean he is actually town tho, power wolfing is a thing.
Alright I read this post and I have to rephrase. Let me put it this way. Blink's not acting very scummy, but he does have a few posts that ring 'no-no' to me. Such as his scum reading me for being defensive at. first and then scum reading. me for being 'not here' it isn't enough to scum read him, but it's a bit weird and (in conjuncture with other thoughts, as well as a possible Kenny-blink team), I would not be totally opposed to a blink Lynch today, but I wouldn't exactly be up in arms over it and it would only come as a complete last resort. I want a Kenny Lynch, or I'd even Lynch you first before blink. Though my main target at this time is Kenny.

..... no. You're willing to lynch Blink without scumreading him is basically what you're saying. Now you say it is last resort. Why do you talk about it, then? Why do you say he's somehow scummy?
Kenny: Isn't it the other way around? The last few pots here looked more like I'm targeting you while you are being defensive. Can you show where you have been targeting me and I responded scummy to those posts directed at me?

Right after the post from Mag I just quoted. Mag was deflecting Kenny's push by attacking Mag, since he was accused of being defensive. Makes sense... yet scummy. I wish I had time to read that stuff before I hammered x.x I would have voted mag.... yet maybe Kenny was Illuminati, given the scumminess and the out of town meta factors.
Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
Anyway @Distorted let me know if I’m actually a lynch target closer to EOD
Distorted: nah i'm more thinking about mag, kenny, MM. slanting towards the mag or kenny route since MM will continue to feed info, even if he is squirming.

I still have a scum lean on you, but you still make more sense than them.......lol

That's not TvT.
Distorted: ya, i figured its beneficial. if mafia doenst attack me that can really help us find if illuminati exist which helps mafia and town. if i die that will confirm there is 0 doctors. and we have a 9 person setup. using D1 to debate as many of the 8 other people as possible is good. if we have illuminati that makes for a 50% chance of a successful scum lynch (taking away manipulation). I have blink and Varnic as town, so that leaves 6 people, 4 of them potentially scum.

Why do you townread Varnic? He has done absolutely NOTHING towny.... only posted like 3 times and parked a vote on me, said his scumreads were Mag and myself, and didn't explain why. 10/10 town. Distorted, that makes 0 sense.
AIVION: Current Wagonomics for my sake: Kenny (3 [L-2]): blinkskater, Magoroth, Gyrlander Varnic (1 [L-4]): AIVION blinkskater (1 [L-4]): Kenny aamirus (1 [L-4]): Marshmallow Marshall Marshmallow Marshall (2 [L-3]): aamirus, Varnic I'd like people to state who they're voting and why to help me out as I try to read this best I can. (I can say my vote on Varnic was way back when I felt his one post and nothing else was particularly shifty when we were just then generating discussion). Townreading AIVION. He's being overall helpful, and seems to be willing to contribute and is scum hunting. And he said he had been up for 30 hours straight, so that adds to it lol.
Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
Distorted: I'm voting Kenny because of posts 900-1050. In my eyes he's. confirmed scum.
i have never seen u this sure of anything, ever in FM.

Distorted has a point here.
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post763237 is completely scummy. That's legit scumpainting with stuff that was declared fake or explained by the accused players. I do not buy that. +scumpoints to Distorted.
Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
Can I throw something at you for using meta reads to Lynch someone after this? I'm a bit hypocritical bc my read on MM is pretty much a gut read LOL. But my acting 'out of character' isn't true because you've seen me play on narrator and I SPECIFICALLY stated I was aching to try out this new play style in FM. This is mostly something that is supposed to convince you that I am town because it's very conjectural. Also, you have seen me play this way as town on narrator as well, and we wanted to Lynch each other at one point lol
Distorted: narrator cant be compared to FM imo.... completely different game.

True, but you're ignoring what he's saying: he TOLD YOU that he wanted to use that play style IN FORUM MAFIA GAMES.
@AIVION Post #1082 is gambler's fallacy. The way to know if there are Illuminati or not is to look at behaviors IMO, and then flips. I know this has started an argument before, and I don't want it to be restarted because it doesn't give anything but tunnels, it's not pro town.

I think we should scumhunt more than debate about this lol.
Gyrlander's posts, #1083-84 read as town to me.
Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
Wait, can you explain the Varnic read?
Blink: yeah, I think distorted said it best earlier, Out of Varnics first few posts it seemed like he rolled a CIT, and was just like Aw crap this games gonna be boring ASF, and for his first FM game to me that's a HUGE town tell

Hm, I didn't think of that! Good point.
Quote Originally Posted by AIVION View Post
So you speak finally.

May I ask what your current thoughts are so far?
Gyrlander: Thoughts: I don't like aamirus and Kenny. I'm starting to feel better about Mag. I feel like MM is not having an impact as he normally has so that gives me bad vibes. I like Dist and think his thoughts are well formed, ironically, him revealing as IC is something I do not like and has damaged my image of him. Blink is kind of I don't know about this man, it's hard for me to get a read on him.

The rest, no idea. lol.

So Gyrlander is a town read for me. This is the Gyrlander we all know and praise. That post comes from a Town PoV, and stuff like "Ironically his IC reveal has damaged his image" is a strong town tell to me.

Also AIVION, will you ever trust me? : (
Quote Originally Posted by Varnic View Post
Wow. I leave the thread for like 2 hours, come back to 11 new pages of useless shitposting?! AINT NOBODY GOT TIME FO DAT.

1. Someone give me a consolidated list of role claims so far, kthx.
2. Distorted is scum 90% of the time in game, so call me Nostradamus when hes revealed.
AIVION: ...What the fuck?

I don't even...

XD yep. @Varnic it would be nice if you could detail your reads a bit...
Quote Originally Posted by AIVION View Post
Can you go into more Detail on the Aamirus read for you? I want to know your meta analysis on MM since I actually did notice you played a lot of FM with him and would like another person's perspective on it.

So that means everyone else is a Null read to you?
Gyrlander: Tbh, I cannot tell you much about aamirus. It's just that I read her posts and I suddenly felt a stream of anger and did not want to read her posts. I wonder what caused that. Don't like D1 role claims neither. About MM I believe I've said everything I can for now, I'm not feeling he's really in the game as he is in others.

yez.

Yep, Gyrlander is right, I've not been in the game as I usually am. THIS SHALL CHANGE TODAY. ANAR'ELAH BELORE!!!
Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
Well I wrote my lw.
I don't see where I acted scummy, I was active and scumhunting throughout the entire day.
There were constant votes with no backing words whatsoever against me, noone bothered standing up or even reading what I'm writing and overall I do not even feel properly scumpainted.
This is a scumdriven train and a lazy town that probably doesn't care about what's happening here.
Once you see my flip take a step back and see what happened please.
I did everything a townie with my role could possibly do.
Cya.
I'm not moving my vote today.
Gyrlander: Thing is, even if you flip Town we could just have detected ILLUMINATI

And I think that's what just happened : D
Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
Thing is, even if you flip Town we could just have detected ILLUMINATI
Distorted: who would be illuiminati if he flipped town?

Well, maybe you, especially given your following post:


Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
Are you his illuminati partner?
Distorted: you cant seriously think he is mafia or illuminati. nobody is standing up for him and he is not even pushing that hard to stay alive. he is not even claiming a TPR or trying to BS to keep alive. if he was scum he would feel like hes letting his partner down.

He's not saying he's not illuminati xD
Distorted unvoted very fast when he saw the hammer didn't work.... and I wonder if he could have literally saw Mag's vote to fake a "hammer" attempt on Kenny lol. One minute passed between their two posts.
Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post Mag wtf are you doing Distorted: blink is getting desparate for this lynch. -vote marshmallow marshall i think im pushing here today. Aah, that's the train on me.... Lmao. A redirection. Great.
Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post Fail. Also @blink. I'd rather take an extra hour of discussion over a quick hammer. Kenny isn't even here. Distorted: no, kenny left which makes me think he is town. blink is pushing this HARD and MM is the alternative. i think it may be blink/MM. kenny/MM is still possible since kenny scapegaoted everyone but MM, but MM is the common denominator here so im pushing for MM. And here you're putting me and blink together. You have literally put me with every single player in this game, out of Varnic. Literally. You're not forming associative reads, you're making an idea then make the facts fit your reads, instead of what would do a town: make your reads fit the facts. What is fucking confusing is that you do that as town sometimes. That kind of play, as town, is as good as counter claiming Crier. So if you really are town, PLEASE STOP THAT in next games.
About Illuminati flips. If someone was really scummy but flipped town, I think we can assume he was Illuminati.
And now on page 24, people are saying I'm scum with Blink. GREAT...
Magoroth: Honestly, Kenny's bullshit about my revealing whether I am Mason or not with blink is scummy as fuck, but maybe they phrased it poorly. Nevertheless, I don't see how Distorted would. survive tonight if he's not speaking the truth.

Backpedaling much? You do that as scum, not as town. Cautious as scum, not as town. You have "convinced" moments as scum, not as town. So, I tend to believe that you're playing this game as scum, not as town. Meaning that you might be scum, not town...
Magoroth:

-vote Marshmallow Marshall


Honestly I think blink is way scummier than MM right now. But if blink is town we'll lose him

.................................................. ...................................really?
Distorted: im thinking its MM and blink. they have had almost no interaction today also and usually they heavy push eachother. MM has been completely off. i do find it VERY STRAGNE kenny isnt voting MM. so thats my clue to this may be kenny and MM

You said that 5 times in a row with the same arguments, so I guess I'll reply xD
I have pushed Blink at start of game, but then some posts screamed town to me. You keep saying I'm "off". I already explained many, MANY times that I was busy IRL, I was working, I was tired, hungry, and tried to change my meta. I really hope this is the last time I have to address those bullshit accusations. And the same goes for the "AAMIRUS SCUMREADS YOU FOR CLAIMING MULTIPLE ROLES" bullshit.
I think that when Blink and Distorted jump at each other, there is ALWAYS one of them being scum... At page 24, my two head suspects are Distorted and Magoroth, Distorted being the most scummy. Hell, I'm saying a revealed IC is the most scummy player seriously
Gyrlander: Welp, and MM suddenly became the most voted train. He's not even here lol.

YYYYYYYYYYYEP. I'm obviously being defended by my "scummates".
Magoroth: Holy fuck MM is at L-1

O shit, I've been at L-1 at page 24?? While I was taking a nap???? REALLY GUYS??????????? -.-
Distorted: It's the fact that people are already prepping for kenny to be a town flip. Kenny himslef just kinda gave up. MM and kenny have not been pushing eachother at all but yet they are each others lynches.

how hard did MM push kenny actually? i think he did a bit but did he put REAL pressure?

I would call putting at L-1 real pressure. And I'd call unvoting from that L-1 instantly FAKE PRESSURE, Distorted.
Gyrlander: DO NOT LYNCH MY MM BOY HE HASNT EVEN PUSHED ME THIS IS WRONG.


Distorted: I already revealed as innocent child, i am literally confirmed that role.

NO YOU ARE NOT. And it's what you're trying to make us believe but it's FALSE. It's why I think you're an illuminatus. Vade retro satana.
Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
Why do I get the feeling that list is shit? Specially the Mag and MM mafia part.
Distorted: mags willing to hammer MM over kenny, not sure how that makes mag and MM scum partners lol

REMEMBER THIS POST. I AM PRETTY SURE DISTORTED CONTRADICTED HIMSELF SOMEWHERE WITH THAT POST.
Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
so? are you saying scums can't vote scums? did i miss that rule or something?
Distorted: with the intent to lynch behind it, everyone has pushed kenny except MM and varnic. i even tried to hammer lol

Well I did hammer : )
Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
LET'S BE CLEAR, KENNY NOT VOTING MM TO SAVE HIS ASS CAN BE SEEN TOWNY OR SCUMMY. ASSHOLES.
Distorted: it can be seen scummy if MM is his partner.

Did you just admit scum painting me?
Aamirus: Distorted you’re sounding way too desperate. Where has your calm and cold tone gone with all the passive aggressive smiley faces? ^^
I feel like Aamirus was just making some fun of us on page 27, though... it's quite weird o.O
Gyrlander: do you really believe kenny claimed illuminati?

At the time, yes.... I didn't read everything and blink said so, and he was confirmed town....................... : (
Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
Does blink often fake claim confirmable power roles like vigi?
I kinda haven't realized illuminati can't take that role until MM pointed it out.
Distorted: how about you vote @Marshmallow Marshall ?

Desperate much?
Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
What??? How can you think Distorted is illuminati? How has he done illuminatish things, I only see townish things from him. Also you can read my LW. I feel that it's MM/Kenny, or potentially MM/Gyrlander. MM/Gyrlander seems very likely given that's been happening. I hope not to get lynched today, and to not have to claim my role either. I WILL. not be claiming my role.
Aamirus: Dude the best Illuminati strat is literally what Distorted did - confirm urself as non mafia and ask to be healed - as a result be the top town read and orchestrate the game so you and your partner stay alive until the mafia are dead - at this point since you’re the top town read it’s a cakewalk to win the game as town will lynch town.

Exactly. I think Aamirus is a member of the Mafia. Am I right, @aamirus?
Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
He even added the EMPHASIS "lol hur durh dat wuz a hammah vote hur durh dderp"
Distorted: I really hope you are scum tbh, because if this is ur town game...i have had you overrated = (

I know I have already addressed this, but this AtE is just horribly wrong.
Gyrlander: kk I promise I won't read pages and pages and point out how everyone is so fucking oportunistic.

@Gyrlander I have you as a strong town read now lol. I did not read the stuff you had posted xD
Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
Illuminati are not town. They are Mafia. And if Distorted pushes a mislynch today, he's one hundred percent getting fucked tomorrow. Disguiser isn't a thing. If Disguiser were a thing, then yea he wouldn't be cleared as of now.
aamirus: So, nothing about this post is logical or makes any sense

I just noticed something... Aamirus kept her vote on me all EoD long, yet criticized Magoroth a lot.... Both are Mafia reads for me....... @aamirus @Magoroth are you the two Mafias? If so please tell us so we don't waste our time lynching you ;-;
aamirus: Okay now here’s the confused mag we all love and remember

yep I really think you two are mafia
Magoroth: EVERYONE WHO VOTED ME UP IS FUCKING SCUM BECAUSE MY LYNCH IS LITERALLY WORTH ZERO POINTS. I AM NOBODY. DISTORTED HASN'T BEEN PUSHING FOR MY FUCKING LYNCH, HE'S BEEN TARGETING KENNNY AND MM. THIS IS A SCUM DRIVEN TRAIN, LYNCH WHOEVER MOVED THEIR VOTES TO ME.

-Mag out. I'm one hundred percent certain Mob would vote me at this point.

I think I know your role. And it's a mafia one.
Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
exactly, but blink claiming vigi and willing to bring down the whole game if he doesnt get his way, may as well give him his lynch. lol this is just retarded at this point.
Distorted: MM and mag are scum, but not a team.

OOOOOHHOHOOHOHOHO Distorted just called me Illuminati, since he called Mag Mafia! LOL. I'm the Illuminati telling everyone to make sure to think that there might be Illuminati, and that it's more probable than not. LEGIT...
!


And so my long catch-up and reads post, which took over 3 hours to write, ends. Please read it entirely. And if you don't like it, don't blame me for spamming or for not posting enough, next time!

TL;DR: Magoroth and Aamirus are Mafia, and I'm asking them to confirm. We won't lynch you if you claim it. Distorted is highly probably Illuminati. Gyrlander and AIVION are strong town and townish reads, respectively. Blinkskater is confirmed town unless he pulled a really risky and stupid play, so I'll just say confirmed town. Varnic is uuuuh.... confusing xD idk what to say about him. I think Kenny being Illuminati is a possibility that we should think about seriously.

Thanks for reading.

Fuck off. The person who died tonight was the AFK guy who was voting you.

[blinkskater]

Before i go tho im leaving my vote here [vote]magoroth[vote]

[Marshmallow Marshall]

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

HERESY.

Read my post first.

[blinkskater]

-vote magoroth

oh and MM we are NOT lynching distorted today sorry thats NOT going to happen.

[Ganelon]

HERESY.

Read my post first.

Yeah I think you're going to have to make it clear what your comments on the posts are. Colour it, I'm not going to read that shit.

[Ganelon]

-vote magoroth

oh and MM we are NOT lynching distorted today sorry thats NOT going to happen.

Okay?

[blinkskater]

Oh and my final post before i leave i swear MM you dont do that much homework/extracredit as town... If distorted can somehow redeem himself today im shooting you tonight have a good night yall

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Fuck off. The person who died tonight was the AFK guy who was voting you.

WOW. Think about it a bit. If I was Mafia, I would shoot Distorted for sure. And if I was Illuminati I wouldn't shoot anyone nor use redirect thingy, to avoid revealing myself and wasting my one charge. So your accusations are shitty. Plus, the Mafia is allied with us IMO.

Which leads to that question: Are you Mafia?

Btw your post is really quick dirty shitty logic lol. Look at the setup, and think about who has interest in his death. I do not, because I would be obvious if I was scum... lol.... actually, only a Mafia with intent of helping non-illuminati would kill Varnic, so I think we're good

[blinkskater]

Okay?

Ill explain tomorrow after football or tonight if i come on and catch up shitfaced

[blinkskater]

And if mafias kill WAS redirected which I can most likely guarantee it wasn't because Illuminati does not want to expose them self please let us know if it was

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Oh and my final post before i leave i swear MM you dont do that much homework/extracredit as town... If distorted can somehow redeem himself today im shooting you tonight have a good night yall

Well I swear you're wrong. You're falling on the wrong side of meta here. I do a lot of ISOs as town, and this goes in the same way... also I'm literally never that much late on the reading with a fucking flow of posts coming. I SAID I was going to do that.

[Ganelon]

WOW. Think about it a bit. If I was Mafia, I would shoot Distorted for sure. And if I was Illuminati I wouldn't shoot anyone nor use redirect thingy, to avoid revealing myself and wasting my one charge. So your accusations are shitty. Plus, the Mafia is allied with us IMO.

Which leads to that question: Are you Mafia?

Btw your post is really quick dirty shitty logic lol. Look at the setup, and think about who has interest in his death. I do not, because I would be obvious if I was scum... lol.... actually, only a Mafia with intent of helping non-illuminati would kill Varnic, so I think we're good

I don't care how many times I am asked that question, the answer is still no. I am not Mafia.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

And if mafias kill WAS redirected which I can most likely guarantee it wasn't because Illuminati does not want to expose them self please let us know if it was

So you're Mafia?