S-FM 265: Illuminati

[blinkskater]

As a Cit...? I find it odd you'd ask me how I'd play as a specific role...

But I suppose I'd play it like I always would: try to generate discussion and rout out the scummy players.

I also have a question for you:

If, also hypothetically, you knew this was the Setup with Illuminati, how would you play it? Would your normal play change?

It all depends on what role I recieved ;)...however illuminati or not my play would be the same

[AIVION]

Grand Wizard here... where my KKK homie at?!

Join the club, there's already a few claims of Illuminati made so far.

Also, any thoughts on the setups? How would you play out each one if you were town?

[AIVION]

It all depends on what role I recieved ;)...however illuminati or not my play would be the same

I find that answer rather interesting...

If there was Illuminati, they could be literally anyone.. and what's worse is if they were lynched they would appear as their assumed role, which would most likely be town.

[PowersThatBe]

-unvote

@Magoroth

unvote so she doesn't have to clear the voting for everyone else.

[Ganelon]

Am I seeing Double here?!

What the hell dude? Lol.

Lol sorry double post xD

[blinkskater]

Grand Wizard here... where my KKK homie at?!

Dude you weren't supposed to say that, now we have to lynch you =(

[naz]

@aamirus starting nao.

due to some ugly, ptb has been replaced by @aamirus starting nao.

[naz]

wtf why is it doing this

[AIVION]

Lol sorry double post xD

Figured.

Any thoughts on my response to your posts? How would you approach The Illuminati setup specifically? Would your game plan change if you were town?

[blinkskater]

I find that answer rather interesting...

If there was Illuminati, they could be literally anyone.. and what's worse is if they were lynched they would appear as their assumed role, which would most likely be town.

Indeed so why turn my brain into absolute mush when i don't need to, if the illuminati exist fuck them...i will play the game using MAINLY MY READS and not have worry about night actions and role flips.

[Ganelon]

-vote Distorted

Confirmed. scum.

[Distorted]

So, please, before we fall into host meta and other shit like that I have an appeal to make: DO not tunnel into thinking that there are necessarily Illuminati. THIS being said, we should absolutely prepare for that possibility (but I don't know if that possible? we'll discuss that later).

We, the town, and at first even the Mafia, have little way of knowing whether there are any Illuminati or not. The only way we can 100% state for a fact. that there are Illuminati is if The Godfather's kill is redirected into himself (Last mafia kill is not cleaned). It's very uncomfortable not knowing exactly what the setup is; but I have a feeling it matters more to the mafia than to the Town. I'm not 100% on this and. I am open to other ideas.

confirmed illuminati.

-vote magoroth

[Distorted]

i opened the thread 7 minutes early which is why people who aren't in the game are shitposting
it is shitpost hour for the next 1 min

how can it be shitpost HOUR for 1 MINUTE?

[AIVION]

Indeed so why turn my brain into absolute mush when i don't need to, if the illuminati exist fuck them...i will play the game using MAINLY MY READS and not have worry about night actions and role flips.

Not sure why you would come to that conclusion. If there is Illuminati we have to be prepared for them is all. This game Will be deception upon deception, so sometimes we would have to adapt to survive the conditions we are dealt.

[Ganelon]

Figured.

Any thoughts on my response to your posts? How would you approach The Illuminati setup specifically? Would your game plan change if you were town?

I think it would be more or less. the game as town, near as I can tell. There will. be some important things to watch out for if we happen to have some Illuminati, but other that I don't think we can really change our game plan much. Roles are a bit less important, with the exception of Sheriff. Innocent Child should DEFINITELY not reveal early on methinks. Masons are the Town's Mafia in the sense that some Illuminati can infiltrate it... all in all, a regular game but with more paranoia. Right now I don't see any definite strategy but I think we should play it as a normal game, minus Investigative peeks.

[Ganelon]

Indeed so why turn my brain into absolute mush when i don't need to, if the illuminati exist fuck them...i will play the game using MAINLY MY READS and not have worry about night actions and role flips.

I essentially agree with this post.

[Ganelon]

confirmed illuminati.

-vote magoroth

Ayyy yes I'm Enlightened D

[Distorted]

It's absurd to believe the Mafia would reveal themselves. It's not pro-Mafia at this point in the game.

LOL calling it now, magoroth is signaling to his mafia buddies to not reveal xD just in the off chance he thought they would take that seriously.

[blinkskater]

Not sure why you would come to that conclusion. If there is Illuminati we have to be prepared for them is all. This game Will be deception upon deception, so sometimes we would have to adapt to survive the conditions we are dealt.

Well when something "illuminatish" happens then Ill start worrying about it..

[AIVION]

I think it would be more or less. the game as town, near as I can tell. There will. be some important things to watch out for if we happen to have some Illuminati, but other that I don't think we can really change our game plan much. Roles are a bit less important, with the exception of Sheriff. Innocent Child should DEFINITELY not reveal early on methinks. Masons are the Town's Mafia in the sense that some Illuminati can infiltrate it... all in all, a regular game but with more paranoia. Right now I don't see any definite strategy but I think we should play it as a normal game, minus Investigative peeks.

Interesting. I feel like it would be a totally different ball-park. We'd essentially be hunting for an enemy that basically can basically blend themselves upon us. One thing I agree on is that if we have an IC reveal early, we should be wary of them down the road if Illuminati so happen to become confirmed. (But we could never be sure, which is always a terrible feeling).

[Ganelon]

Oh wait it's shitpost time? Okay just one sec.

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[blinkskater]

I essentially agree with this post.

I more or less came to that understanding based on your post "play it normal untill we need to worry about DEEEEZ NUTZZZZ" haaaaaaa gotteeeeeiim

[Ganelon]

LOL calling it now, magoroth is signaling to his mafia buddies to not reveal xD just in the off chance he thought they would take that seriously.

Nah, that was just me telling PTB why I thought his counterpoint was shit.

Although I do admit that post is a little gay (AND accordingly scum, since gay is scum according to some people).

[Distorted]

Btw PTB and I are scum together, take a sip of that wifoam =)

Haha

I’d sub out of that were true

How’s that for wifom?

As Mag is probably the cuntiest person here. I cannot continue my vow of niceness.

I am subbing out. Stand by.

[Ganelon]

I more or less came to that understanding based on your post "play it normal untill we need to worry about DEEEEZ NUTZZZZ" haaaaaaa gotteeeeeiim

Respectable thoughts. Jump in my pocket.

[blinkskater]

Ah fuck.....
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[blinkskater]

Respectable thoughts. Jump in my pocket.

Sounds good to me just so everyone knows im buddying mag right now.

[AIVION]

Wouldn't that just be coincidental...

[blinkskater]

-vote distorted

I really just want more contribution from you... I feel like you are semi-afk and you never answered my scumhunting questions.

[AIVION]

Sounds good to me just so everyone knows im buddying mag right now.

Noted.

[Ganelon]

Oh shit blink it looks like you're scum

​But if you're scum then how can you coofnrim you're scum with me since PTB's departure confirms you are a team with him

Also yes this is a troll post don't even try. I'm not open wolfing. Bc I ain't a wolf.

[DJarJar]

fuck im getting scum read for PTB and Blink being cockbuddies

[Kenny]

hi

[Kenny]

-vote blinkskater

[Distorted]

-vote distorted

I really just want more contribution from you... I feel like you are semi-afk and you never answered my scumhunting questions.

im still reading - i havnt even read the setup yet lol going to catch up, thehn read setup, then come back and contribute fake posts that will feel like real posts.

[Kenny]

I have a good feeling on blink being gay

[AIVION]

hi

Hello!

Your thoughts on the setup? If you hypothetically knew Illuminati exists, how would your game-plan change if you are town?

[Distorted]

Oh shit blink it looks like you're scum

​But if you're scum then how can you coofnrim you're scum with me since PTB's departure confirms you are a team with him

Also yes this is a troll post don't even try. I'm not open wolfing. Bc I ain't a wolf.

You are very nervous about posts you make and people thinking you are scum

[DJarJar]

well I guess PTB already claimed our role so I mean I will just say I am sticking to the escort claim.

[blinkskater]

fuck im getting scum read for PTB and Blink being cockbuddies

Dont you mean sword fighting extraordinaire...

[Kenny]

Hello!

Your thoughts on the setup? If you hypothetically knew Illuminati exists, how would your game-plan change if you are town?

I haven't read that part yet.
Prolly gonna do that tomorrow.

[AIVION]

-vote Varnic

I think I'll start here, posts a one off trolly comment and leaves without responding to anything.

I also saw them reading the thread for a while, so they should of been able to leave us with SOMETHING with context.

[blinkskater]

I have a good feeling on blink being gay

Efe...?

[DJarJar]

Honestly, as someone who’s played this setup twice (now three times, as I previous stated). it’s hard to predict if the Illuminati are actually here… especially as town. They 9/10 will NEVER choose a mafia role, since there’s really no need to (and this was stated in the first game I played post-game by the Infiltrator; they felt there was no need to choose mafia roles because they can’t kill with it anyway and escort is a role). They could easily choose something like the Innocent Child and make us feel secure, feeding off our paranoia while we hunt the mafia so that they can control the night kills.

The last mafia kill is not cleaned..? As far as I’m aware (and noticed) the mafia kills are always cleaned. That being said, we would never know if the Mafia killed a member of their own since it would definitely be cleaned, making us think there’s mafia still (And refers back to my previous point of feeding off our paranoia).

All in all, we should just play it as normal. But we should be wary of the Mafia claiming their real role and using the Illuminati as an excuse to not get lynched (This was actually tried near the end on the second game I played on setup A, it didn’t end well for them xD).



Yea essentially. It would be interesting to see the Mafia hard-claim day two if they had their kill redirected. If they did though, I would still be wary considering they could easily be lying as an excuse to not have to be townie. If that situation arises, I think it’s probably a good idea to have our power roles keep them under wrap. Also if that happens, make sure whoever is the godfather tells us exactly who they are, so we can try to keep their night kills under wrap (Like if PTB Wasn’t lying about being an escort).

What do you think Magoroth?

what the fuck I guess I didn't read the setup properly the first time... I thought the illuminati were just a random chance of existing 2nd mafia team

[AIVION]

well I guess PTB already claimed our role so I mean I will just say I am sticking to the escort claim.

...A little annoyed PTB claimed so damn early.

Your slot could still be the consort, but it was a bit ballsy to claim so early regardless.

Just some food for thought.

[blinkskater]

well I guess PTB already claimed our role so I mean I will just say I am sticking to the escort claim.

Don't visit me tonight i don't want to spend the night with you i'm faithfull to distorted <3

[Kenny]

reads so far:


naz
blink
magoroth
MM
distorted
varnic
Gyrlander
AIVION
Kenny

[AIVION]

what the fuck I guess I didn't read the setup properly the first time... I thought the illuminati were just a random chance of existing 2nd mafia team

I mean, it IS a random chance of Illuminati being in our game.. but they're not a "second" mafia team.

Illuminati: Eliminate the Non-Illuminati and have at least one Illuminati survive, or make it so nothing can stop you from doing so.
Non-Illuminati: Eliminate the Illuminati and have at least one Non-Illuminati survive,or make it so nothing can stop you from doing so.

Illuminati wins all ties.

so essentially, the mafia and town would work together in that aspect... Thus completely changing up the game as a whole in terms of gameplay.

[Distorted]

@naz @naz @naz [SIZE=6 @naz [/SIZE]


I HAVE A QUESTION!

Sheriff
At night, you may check one person for being a member of the Mafia.
If you target a member of the Illuminati, you will learn if their assumed role is a Mafia role.

Do they know its an assumed role? or will they just see town/mafia and have no idea its illuminati or not? or will it say this persons assumed role is mafia?

[Kenny]

usually the first guesses are pretty good