S-FM 265: Illuminati

[naz]

ILLUMiNΔTI???

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Day One

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Day Two
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remember ! play nice (3 strikes you're out) & make a minimum of 5 relevant game posts a day !

[blinkskater]

Im gay

[Ratatoskr]

Same

[Ganelon]

Alright I'm going to open. the game by stating that everyone should claim their. roles right now.

If you're Mafia/Illuminati, please claim

[PowersThatBe]

Since playing town with this class of fm players gets me scum read.

I’m escort.

Any claims thereafter is consort.

Bye

[blinkskater]

Waaah i don wanna cwaim my wole waah

[blinkskater]

Since playing town with this class of fm players gets me scum read.

I’m escort.

Any claims thereafter is consort.

Bye

What do you mean by "this class" are you saying we are all inferior to you?

[PowersThatBe]

Waaah i don wanna cwaim my wole waah

Town blink hard claims day 1

-vote blinkskater

[Ganelon]

So, please, before we fall into host meta and other shit like that I have an appeal to make: DO not tunnel into thinking that there are necessarily Illuminati. THIS being said, we should absolutely prepare for that possibility (but I don't know if that possible? we'll discuss that later).

We, the town, and at first even the Mafia, have little way of knowing whether there are any Illuminati or not. The only way we can 100% state for a fact. that there are Illuminati is if The Godfather's kill is redirected into himself (Last mafia kill is not cleaned). It's very uncomfortable not knowing exactly what the setup is; but I have a feeling it matters more to the mafia than to the Town. I'm not 100% on this and. I am open to other ideas.

[PowersThatBe]

What do you mean by "this class" are you saying we are all inferior to you?

I’m not allowed to insult anyone. So it’s up to your imagination as to what I meant

[blinkskater]

Town blink hard claims day 1

-vote blinkskater

-vote powerathatbe

i don't think you wanna go there :P

[naz]

i opened the thread 7 minutes early which is why people who aren't in the game are shitposting
it is shitpost hour for the next 1 min

[Stealthbomber16]

naz said i could make one shitpost and im using it on this

[PowersThatBe]

So, please, before we fall into host meta and other shit like that I have an appeal to make: DO not tunnel into thinking that there are necessarily Illuminati. THIS being said, we should absolutely prepare for that possibility (but I don't know if that possible? we'll discuss that later).

We, the town, and at first even the Mafia, have little way of knowing whether there are any Illuminati or not. The only way we can 100% state for a fact. that there are Illuminati is if The Godfather's kill is redirected into himself (Last mafia kill is not cleaned). It's very uncomfortable not knowing exactly what the setup is; but I have a feeling it matters more to the mafia than to the Town. I'm not 100% on this and. I am open to other ideas.

So you’re grand wizard?

[blinkskater]

I’m not allowed to insult anyone. So it’s up to your imagination as to what I meant

So you meant to insult us without insulting us =(

[Ganelon]

I will be closely monitoring the thread for any further ideas about the setup.

Also.
There is something I haven't addressed yet.

-vote Stealthbomber16

He's a confirmed reprobate, Lynch his ass.

[PowersThatBe]

So you meant to insult us without insulting us =(

I cannot confirm nor deny

[blinkskater]

I cannot confirm nor deny

Just deny it ffs lol

[Ganelon]

So you’re grand wizard?

I'm Harry Potter.

[blinkskater]

Personally i think mafia should reveal and we wont lynch you so we can use you to kill the illuminati just saying.

[Ganelon]

Personally i think mafia should reveal and we wont lynch you so we can use you to kill the illuminati just saying.

100% agree.

[blinkskater]

Btw PTB and I are scum together, take a sip of that wifoam =)

[PowersThatBe]

100% agree.

And then the illuminati can override lol

[Ganelon]

-.- Stealth isn't in the game. What a godamn reprobate he is.

-vote Ratatoskr

You must be Grand Wizard. You're Southern. Check.

[PowersThatBe]

Btw PTB and I are scum together, take a sip of that wifoam =)

Haha

I’d sub out of that were true

How’s that for wifom?

[Ganelon]

And then the illuminati can override lol

I do think blink was trolling, because I was. Are you turning a troll post into a serious post?

-vote PowersThatBe

[blinkskater]

Haha

I’d sub out of that were true

How’s that for wifom?

I'd have unsigned as soon as naz sent out the rolecard if that was actually the case =P

[blinkskater]

-vote powersthatbe

[Ganelon]

I'd have unsigned as soon as naz sent out the rolecard if that was actually the case =P

I confirm, blink is actually scum with me. I'm Inquisitor, picked Innocent child as role and he picked Consort

[blinkskater]

Aite that was my last serious post ill start my trolling now

[Ganelon]

Aite that was my last serious post ill start my trolling now

Then you can't confirm we're a scum team anymore

[blinkskater]

Then you can't confirm we're a scum team anymore

Don't worry ill figure out whos actually on ur scumteam

-vote magoroth

nobody claims scum twice and gets away with it

[PowersThatBe]

I do think blink was trolling, because I was. Are you turning a troll post into a serious post?

-vote PowersThatBe

I never know when you people are trolling

I wasn’t trolling tho.

I’m escort lmao

[Ganelon]

Don't worry ill figure out whos actually on ur scumteam

-vote magoroth

nobody claims scum twice and gets away with it

Ayyy you'll figure it out chief

Oh shit in before bussing

[Ganelon]

I never know when you people are trolling

I wasn’t trolling tho.

I’m escort lmao

It's absurd to believe the Mafia would reveal themselves. It's not pro-Mafia at this point in the game.

[PowersThatBe]

It's absurd to believe the Mafia would reveal themselves. It's not pro-Mafia at this point in the game.

I never said I believed they would. I stated my opinion based on the belief that I think some of you would earnestly ask them to.

Lmao

I was pointing out how much of a mistake that’d be


In b4 scum points.


They have a chat lol.

[Ganelon]

In one setup, the Mafia are essentially Masons with a gun (even though they are not aware of it), whereas in the other they are regular scum. The second scenario would play out much like a regular game except for the fact that IC isn't confirmed town, like they should be. The question becomes whether or not it's good for the Mafia to kill, since they don't know which setup is actually in the game. They would effectively be killing off their teammates.

From the town's perspective, I'd say the game would play pretty much the same way, except for the fact that we can't trust graveyard flips too much. The only thing we know for a fact is that the dead people aren't Illuminati.

[AIVION]

Alrighty, It's time.

I've played this setup a grand total of three times now. Let's see how this run goes.

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

Sup other me! You think we'll have the exact same reads this time around? xD

[AIVION]

So, please, before we fall into host meta and other shit like that I have an appeal to make: DO not tunnel into thinking that there are necessarily Illuminati. THIS being said, we should absolutely prepare for that possibility (but I don't know if that possible? we'll discuss that later).

We, the town, and at first even the Mafia, have little way of knowing whether there are any Illuminati or not. The only way we can 100% state for a fact. that there are Illuminati is if The Godfather's kill is redirected into himself (Last mafia kill is not cleaned). It's very uncomfortable not knowing exactly what the setup is; but I have a feeling it matters more to the mafia than to the Town. I'm not 100% on this and. I am open to other ideas.

Honestly, as someone who’s played this setup twice (now three times, as I previous stated). it’s hard to predict if the Illuminati are actually here… especially as town. They 9/10 will NEVER choose a mafia role, since there’s really no need to (and this was stated in the first game I played post-game by the Infiltrator; they felt there was no need to choose mafia roles because they can’t kill with it anyway and escort is a role). They could easily choose something like the Innocent Child and make us feel secure, feeding off our paranoia while we hunt the mafia so that they can control the night kills.

The last mafia kill is not cleaned..? As far as I’m aware (and noticed) the mafia kills are always cleaned. That being said, we would never know if the Mafia killed a member of their own since it would definitely be cleaned, making us think there’s mafia still (And refers back to my previous point of feeding off our paranoia).

All in all, we should just play it as normal. But we should be wary of the Mafia claiming their real role and using the Illuminati as an excuse to not get lynched (This was actually tried near the end on the second game I played on setup A, it didn’t end well for them xD).

In one setup, the Mafia are essentially Masons with a gun (even though they are not aware of it), whereas in the other they are regular scum. The second scenario would play out much like a regular game except for the fact that IC isn't confirmed town, like they should be. The question becomes whether or not it's good for the Mafia to kill, since they don't know which setup is actually in the game. They would effectively be killing off their teammates.

From the town's perspective, I'd say the game would play pretty much the same way, except for the fact that we can't trust graveyard flips too much. The only thing we know for a fact is that the dead people aren't Illuminati.

Yea essentially. It would be interesting to see the Mafia hard-claim day two if they had their kill redirected. If they did though, I would still be wary considering they could easily be lying as an excuse to not have to be townie. If that situation arises, I think it’s probably a good idea to have our power roles keep them under wrap. Also if that happens, make sure whoever is the godfather tells us exactly who they are, so we can try to keep their night kills under wrap (Like if PTB Wasn’t lying about being an escort).

What do you think Magoroth?

[AIVION]

I also love how I accidentally said "keep them under wrap" twice there xD

Also, the power roles shouldn't claim immediately if the Mafia DID happen to claim. That's just self-explanatory.

[blinkskater]

Rachyl and Efekannn have taught me some new scum hunting techniques... @Distorted are you scum? And are you gay?

[blinkskater]

I also love how I accidentally said "keep them under wrap" twice there xD

Also, the power roles shouldn't claim immediately if the Mafia DID happen to claim. That's just self-explanatory.

Speaking hypothetically if you were a CIT in this save how would you play it?

[Ganelon]

In one setup, the Mafia are essentially Masons with a gun (even though they are not aware of it), whereas in the other they are regular scum. The second scenario would play out much like a regular game except for the fact that IC isn't confirmed town, like they should be. The question becomes whether or not it's good for the Mafia to kill, since they don't know which setup is actually in the game. They would effectively be killing off their teammates.

From the town's perspective, I'd say the game would play pretty much the same way, except for the fact that we can't trust graveyard flips too much. The only thing we know for a fact is that the dead people aren't Illuminati.

[AIVION]

Speaking hypothetically if you were a CIT in this save how would you play it?

As a Cit...? I find it odd you'd ask me how I'd play as a specific role...

But I suppose I'd play it like I always would: try to generate discussion and rout out the scummy players.

I also have a question for you:

If, also hypothetically, you knew this was the Setup with Illuminati, how would you play it? Would your normal play change?

[PowersThatBe]

As Mag is probably the cuntiest person here. I cannot continue my vow of niceness.

I am subbing out. Stand by.

[AIVION]

In one setup, the Mafia are essentially Masons with a gun (even though they are not aware of it), whereas in the other they are regular scum. The second scenario would play out much like a regular game except for the fact that IC isn't confirmed town, like they should be. The question becomes whether or not it's good for the Mafia to kill, since they don't know which setup is actually in the game. They would effectively be killing off their teammates.

From the town's perspective, I'd say the game would play pretty much the same way, except for the fact that we can't trust graveyard flips too much. The only thing we know for a fact is that the dead people aren't Illuminati.

In one setup, the Mafia are essentially Masons with a gun (even though they are not aware of it), whereas in the other they are regular scum. The second scenario would play out much like a regular game except for the fact that IC isn't confirmed town, like they should be. The question becomes whether or not it's good for the Mafia to kill, since they don't know which setup is actually in the game. They would effectively be killing off their teammates.

From the town's perspective, I'd say the game would play pretty much the same way, except for the fact that we can't trust graveyard flips too much. The only thing we know for a fact is that the dead people aren't Illuminati.

Am I seeing Double here?!

What the hell dude? Lol.

[AIVION]

As Mag is probably the cuntiest person here. I cannot continue my vow of niceness.

I am subbing out. Stand by.

PTB, nooo.

Don't leave

[Varnic]

Grand Wizard here... where my KKK homie at?!

[PowersThatBe]

@naz check ur discord pms woman

[Ganelon]

Rachyl and Efekannn have taught me some new scum hunting techniques... @Distorted are you scum? And are you gay?

I'd say the 'Im Scum But Im So Are You' Line but I'd say that's enough open wolfing for today.