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    What are the best role claims for non-town roles?

    List any role-claims and strats that you have with evil roles such as MM, SK, Arso, Judge, Cult, or any Mafia/Triad role.... or just any role that is not town.

    I would know from the get go that:

    Consort/Liaison can definitely pretend to be Escort
    Kidnapper/Interrogator can definitely pretend to be Jailor
    Consig/Admin can definitely pretend to be Investigator
    Agent/Vanguard can definitely pretend to be Lookout or Detective
    Framer/Forger can try to be Investigator or Sheriff.

    But as for the other roles, there seems to be more situational claims and possibilities, and I want to figure those out.

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    Re: What are the best role claims for non-town roles?

    Can't honestly say. Each case is Situational.

    I normally have One Doctor, and One Sheriff LW prepared when im scum (To best match what possible roles are left)


    But, the more daring and risky the claim, the better the game for example: Claiming Busdriver with a well written LW, Claiming Det/Lookout with a correct LW.
    And also, their is claming the role that has been cleaned by Janitor.


    At the end of the day, its situational, and even if you are lets say a Consort, claming Escort may kill you.
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    Re: What are the best role claims for non-town roles?

    Yeah, doc and sheriff are the usual claims, without forgetting vet.

    Det/Lookout is actually pretty easy to fake by looking at other people's lw, another very easy role to claim is spy.

    What i did once and kinda worked was claim coroner as a janitor, not only do i get to clean people and get their roles through their lws, but i can then chose what category i want to put them (that's my secret weapon).

    I usually don't like claiming my town counterpart, that's too easy to see through.
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    Re: What are the best role claims for non-town roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterNinja View Post
    claiming doc usually gets you killed even when you are doc, same with bodyguard.
    Depends when you claim it. If you get to claim it early enough, you're getting away with it.
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    Re: What are the best role claims for non-town roles?

    Most people try to hunt through slots so I would say things that fit multiple categories. For example doc is only town protective and town random. BG however is town protective, killing, and random making it a better claim.
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    Re: What are the best role claims for non-town roles?

    When in doubt, claim Doctor.
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    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

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    Re: What are the best role claims for non-town roles?

    I always see in games "honestly, if you aren't Coroner, you won't claim it because it's almost always lynched"

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    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

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    Re: What are the best role claims for non-town roles?

    Survivor is strong claim depending on save.
    Act a bit angry / mad like your role is really useless and claim Coroner.
    Claiming Mafia/Triad day 1 usually keeps people away from killing you early on (as a town role claim) then you correct it later.
    If you're triad/Maf you can act like SPY nomatter what as you get the exact same info as spy.

    if you're jester you can try to counter claim another persons role like vigi / veteran / etc. gets you or him lynched pretty easily.
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    Re: What are the best role claims for non-town roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    No one likes BG. If you role hunt correctly, claiming jailor/investigator is a claim for every scum role, even noninformed ones.

    Sometimes I claim bus driver for the heck of it.
    claiming bus driver when nobody in the town has been bussed and claiming jailor when nobody in the town has been jailed.
    thats like asking to get lynched.
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    Re: What are the best role claims for non-town roles?

    As any scum, when on trial i like to do any of the following, some in conjunction with others:

    - Sweat profusely and nervously spit out words
    - Remain silent
    - Claim im blackmailed (sometimes intentionally mispelling, or waiting too long to send)
    - Make an emotional plea
    - Trashtalk everyone that's ever wronged me
    - Claim il suicide if allowed to win
    - Promise to kill a well liked player if allowed to live
    - Threaten extended mothership, then cry when i only have regular mothership
    - Claim being a 2nd mayor/marshall, works best when one is revealed
    - Reveal spoilers to popular shows while talking about how shit they are

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    Re: What are the best role claims for non-town roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly View Post
    As any scum, when on trial i like to do any of the following, some in conjunction with others:

    - Sweat profusely and nervously spit out words
    - Remain silent
    - Claim im blackmailed (sometimes intentionally mispelling, or waiting too long to send)
    - Make an emotional plea
    - Trashtalk everyone that's ever wronged me
    - Claim il suicide if allowed to win
    - Promise to kill a well liked player if allowed to live
    - Threaten extended mothership, then cry when i only have regular mothership
    - Claim being a 2nd mayor/marshall, works best when one is revealed
    - Reveal spoilers to popular shows while talking about how shit they are

    Youll be playing roulette in no time with these handy tips!
    (Roulette is where the real money is, living is for chumps)
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    - You're on a trail, what's your defence?
    Yuki: >)o.o)>
    Yuki: ^(o.o(^
    Yuki: v)O.o)v
    Yuki: d(o.o)b
    Yuki: Not jester, trust me v)o.o)b







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    Re: What are the best role claims for non-town roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukitaka Oni View Post
    Yuki were put on trail
    - You're on a trail, what's your defence?
    Yuki: >)o.o)>
    Yuki: ^(o.o(^
    Yuki: v)O.o)v
    Yuki: d(o.o)b
    Yuki: Not jester, trust me v)o.o)b







    -------not jester, rite?
    Never jester, yuki can only ever be citizen


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    Re: What are the best role claims for non-town roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterNinja View Post
    you know, about a year ago i made a colored version out of >)o.o)> because you kept posting that all over the place long ago.
    Better copy-paste it for later use.....


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    Re: What are the best role claims for non-town roles?

    All the Town counterparts as mentioned in original post (Jailor - Kidnapper, Escort - Consort, Doctor - Witch Doctor, etc). Such claims will usually draw some degree of suspicion though.

    Doc, BG, Sheriff, Spy, Vigi ("haven't shot yet"), Jailor ("n1 jailed someone who is now dead n2 lynchday n3 lynchday") and Veteran claims are all also very common and usually have a high chance of being lynched unless provable (e.g. Doc who healed someone, Sheriff/Spy who outed an evil, Vigi/Jailor/Vet who killed someone).

    Citizen or Coroner if applicable.

    Detective and Lookout can be faked well regardless of your actual role if people are forthcoming with their LWs. Inattentive/new players won't look too closely at/can't fully comprehend your LW to double-check that it's legit, so you might be able to get away with faking one or two days. In proactive and chatty (or spammy and trolly) Towns, the fast flow of conversation can also prevent better players from scrutinizing your LW too closely. However, if players do notice that all your information has already been revealed in the day chat, you might end up getting lynched anyway.

    In general, the smarter you sound, the harder it is to come up with a solid defense. If you sound really knowledgeable and attentive, but are suddenly unable to articulate a response when people pick holes in your defense, you pretty much expose yourself as scum. Just play dumb LOL. Talk like a new player without being too obvious and people will be more willing to let you go. Same thing with being "bad at English", being frustratingly quiet or slow to type, and faking AFK. I usually don't do this though, since it aggravates other players who think they have a noob/burden on their team LOL. All of us play the game to have fun. Let's play a clean, friendly match yo.

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    Survivor claims are almost always lynched, since they almost always side with evils when it comes down to a tie (since by that point Town lacks the voting power to lynch them in the day, but evils still have the power to kill them at night).

    Witches like to claim Detective, but that's a horrible claim. Depending on whether witched targets are notified or not, every single person in your fake LW will either cry out "I was witched that night!" or "Lies, I visited someone else that night!" Both, however, will result in an insta-lynch.
    Last edited by Exeter350; November 21st, 2016 at 01:28 AM.


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    Re: What are the best role claims for non-town roles?

    I wasn't even joking about Mayor claim. I always claim it as Neutrals, it's a great claim. Everyone thinks you're a troll or you're Jester. Works like 90% of the time; I would do it as Mafia/Triad/Cult, but I am worried that if it fell into that 10% category as a team role, then people would accuse me of gamethrowing lol.

    Day 1 I just tell people I'm Mayor, ask people to PM me roles, refuse to reveal because I need incognito achievement. Claim that no other Government is revealing, so therefore you are confirmed Mayor. lol


    Cryptonic is not responsible for bitter Mayors revealing due to your claim and pushing the lynch on you.

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