S-FM 225: WIFOM Mafia Q

[Mesk514]

Yes this I realize. But I had zero to no read/town read on him.

[SuperJack]

Just so you know. Scum are extremely unlikely to counter claim, because it reveals them and ensures their loss.

We are only stuck with a cc situation because 22 has been near enough claiming detect, he revealed before this situation, for no reason other to confirm himself.

Aka he tried to get town read as the tpr early game.

[Voss]

If you didn't have any doubt about that you wouldn't have just unvoted

i dont quite like to run the game like that. if someone says wait, and i'm around, i'll wait.

[RLVG]

Day ends in 10min. Something's fucky about the timer.

[Voss]

-vote twentytwo

[Mesk514]

i dont quite like to run the game like that. if someone says wait, and i'm around, i'll wait.

I apologize. I did not realize that someone asked to wait. I agree in that case

[Unknown1234]

He didn't hardclaim. It's his own fault if he's Detective which is really unlikely

[Mesk514]

Fine I will hammer, but let it be known I think tbp is lying

[Unknown1234]

6 minutes. I think he's hammered anyways though?

[Voss]

i love the thrill of last minute lynches.

[Mesk514]

So I'm gonna hammer.....

-vote twentytwo

[The Godfather]

TwentyTwo has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


TwentyTwo (5 [L-0]): Unknown1234, The Burning Phoenix, Voss, Mesk514, SuperJack
RLVG (1 [L-4]): Fury
Fury (1 [L-4]): TwentyTwo

[RLVG]

Night 2



"Welcome home" said the white person to the blue person, a random kid yelled at the blue man for being blue. "Why are you so fucking blue?!"
"Because I injected myself with drugs. I'm legally allowed because I'm a detective." said the blue man before he proceeded to fake frown and sit on a chair.
The door was kicked down by the police, the officer screaming loudly "Freeze! No more bullshit!"
The blue man spoke in a gentle voice "But I'm like you guys!", the officer shaked his head and replied "You're not one of our detectives. You're under arrest for drugs."
Plot twist, the blue man panicked and jumped out the window, forgetting that it was the 12th floor.
Oh well.
Drugged man dies because everyone thought drugs was bad.

TwentyTwo was lynched. He was a Citizen.

Players :
- Mesk514
- Unknown1234
- Gyrlander
- Voss
- Fury
- SuperJack
- The Burning Phoenix
- thedougler

Dead Players :
- ccantman Lynched Day 1 (Jester)
- Stealthbomber16 Killed Night 1 (Agent)
- Alijach Killed Night 1 (Agent)
- ika Killed Night 1 (Lookout)
- TwentyTwo Lynched Day 2 (Citizen)

Night End :
20thth March 20:00 CET.

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DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS

[RLVG]

Day 3



The host has been busy so the day started a bit late.

Feedback have not been given yet, but will be given in a full batch.
If you didn't receive feedback, it's because you did no action or visited yourself.
Edit : Feedback that isn't obvious has been given. Will still be busy today!

Since the host is too lazy to story, here's a picture to represent the situation.




Players :
- Mesk514
- Unknown1234
- Gyrlander
- Fury
- SuperJack
- The Burning Phoenix
- thedougler

Dead Players :
- ccantman Lynched Day 1 (Jester)
- Stealthbomber16 Killed Night 1 (Agent)
- Alijach Killed Night 1 (Agent)
- ika Killed Night 1 (Lookout)
- TwentyTwo Lynched Day 2 (Citizen)
- Voss Killed by Host Day 3 (Detective)

Night End :
22nd March 20:00 CET.

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DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS

4 votes to hammer.

[Unknown1234]

So the joker wasted our time.

This is pointless. We have as little information as we did yesterday except for TwentyTwo's flip (which I'm really salty about).

Could Skip though. Maybe that's a waste of time though.

[RLVG]

Each day is a forced lynch day, so no skips I'm afraid!

[Unknown1234]

Confirmed Town:
Voss
The Burning Phoenix

Almost confirmed town:
Fury (placed above below)
Mesk514

The remainder:
SuperJack
Thedougler
Gyrlander

[SuperJack]

Guys I want to teach you all how to skip as suggested with no reason from unknown.

-vote Unknown1234

[Unknown1234]

Eh?

[SuperJack]

Each day is a forced lynch day, so no skips I'm afraid!

Found a solution.

[Unknown1234]

Honestly, SuperJack is prob Joker and thedougler is mafia like I suspected yesterday. I really don't read Gyrlander as anything but a citizen.

[Unknown1234]

SuperJack, the only reason you'd be against skipping is if you want to with hold receiving information from the joker. It can't not kill forever.

[SuperJack]

Eh?

Joker not picking targets mean that list of detective targets is likely accurate.

Suspecting Unknown SJ is.
SJ re-read unknowns reactions last night.

[Unknown1234]

That really did ignore my point though.

Tell me why skipping is bad. Given the host had to clarify that point suggests that it's a legit concern that could be decided by Town.

[SuperJack]

SuperJack, the only reason you'd be against skipping is if you want to with hold receiving information from the joker. It can't not kill forever.

Lynch everyday dude. Lynch everyday. Can't skip.

[SuperJack]

That really did ignore my point though.

Tell me why skipping is bad. Given the host had to clarify that point suggests that it's a legit concern that could be decided by Town.

You suck at sarcasm. There is no option to skip. Only lynch.

[Unknown1234]

If there's no votes, then it wouldn't be a forced lynch. You also ignore the fact that host clarified it meaning that I didn't make up that logical connection.

It wouldn't surprise me if you asked this in advance and that's how you knew the answer.

[Unknown1234]

SuperJack, you said that my reactions were scummy after a re-read. Explain this argument. IMO I think you went after me because you realized it would be easier with nobody Town-reading me strongly.

[SuperJack]

Also. I'm fine with being lynched as long as unknown is next. Town are strong at this point.

Tonight. We play simple circle game with detectives. 1>2>3>1
Forcing them to visit, and joker to pick a target. Narrows it down too two people.

[Unknown1234]

Also. I'm fine with being lynched as long as unknown is next. Town are strong at this point.

Tonight. We play simple circle game with detectives. 1>2>3>1
Forcing them to visit, and joker to pick a target. Narrows it down too two people.

I am 100% okay with being lynched after SuperJack if he flips Town. I think that this is part of his manipulation but with no night kill I'd take a lynch after him if he flipped Town somehow.

[Unknown1234]

-vote SuperJack

[SuperJack]

If there's no votes, then it wouldn't be a forced lynch. You also ignore the fact that host clarified it meaning that I didn't make up that logical connection.

It wouldn't surprise me if you asked this in advance and that's how you knew the answer.

Been mentioned before during day more than once that lynch is mandatory. So no.
And I'll write up tomorrow. Due to work.

But you can go ahead and explain why I, as joker, will so heavily hunt for Joker. Even if it puts himself In the position of being lynched.

And unlike you. I don't avoid playing myself on the noose.

[Unknown1234]

And I've just considered now many ways I can prove myself to be non joker, so it would be up to you if you thought I was mafia or not.

[Unknown1234]

Your heavy hunt for joker never put you at risk. All you did was state the obvious of who could/couldn't be joker. You don't put yourself at risk because you already had more Town cred than the rest of the people in the lynch pool.

[SuperJack]

Apparently. Creating mechanical hunting for Joker is apparently manipulation. LOL

This plan means that the Joker cannot target outside the Only-Joker circle. So detectives are not bombed.

Your frustration is showing Unknown.

[Fury]

Was looking forward to some spicy shit today, but joker trolled us. Going to afk to study for my test now. See you all in 24 hours.

[Unknown1234]

Unknown wants a Detective on him tonight because his plan is super genius.

[SuperJack]

Your heavy hunt for joker never put you at risk. All you did was state the obvious of who could/couldn't be joker. You don't put yourself at risk because you already had more Town cred than the rest of the people in the lynch pool.

I have always said I have as much equal chance of being joker, as you and Gyrlander.

Lol. You know you can't lie like this in a forum game? Proof is a few pages.back.

[Mesk514]

i would really like to apologize to tbp, i was driving at eod yesterday and i think my logic was awfully flawed. i read 22 as citizen drawing out night kill so therefore tbp had to have been a dt and so did voss. so for that, i apologize attempting to start a train on you at eod. thankfully voss has your back

[Unknown1234]

There is no frustration in me because I can easily confirm myself as non-joker. If you had thought about it yourself then maybe I'd see you as more Town but no you just immediately went with a vote.

[Unknown1234]

SuperJack, I know you want me to tell you my genius plan but I'm not easily fooled by your cluelessness.

[SuperJack]

Unknown is providing "expert plan" as opposed to my solid idea. What a way to get out of being easily caught out as Joker.

[Unknown1234]

No SuperJack, I actually never ignored your plan not even in the slightest bit.

I would be happy to be lynched after SuperJack, but if he somehow isn't Joker I know how to confirm that I'm not joker. It has nothing to do with you specifically except that your hard pushing me today.

[SuperJack]

No SuperJack, I actually never ignored your plan not even in the slightest bit.

I would be happy to be lynched after SuperJack, but if he somehow isn't Joker I know how to confirm that I'm not joker. It has nothing to do with you specifically except that your hard pushing me today.

You do understand you've just been hard pushing me and flopping all about whilst doing so?

You are acting just like a squirmy scum on the shooting line. Lol.

[Unknown1234]

No SuperJack, you realize you have no argument because you're either Joker trying to push a miss lynch, or a terrible town player that thinks he found a joker but is actually completely lost. I can still confirm my role.

[Unknown1234]

Did someone say that thedougler couldn't be joker? If they did that would be super amazing.

Oh wait, I remember now. Unless Ares submitted a N0 action and then didn't show to day 1 then he is confirmed not joker. That actually makes my plan almost full proof.

[Unknown1234]

Realistically, the joker is between me, Gyrlander, and SuperJack. Fury is possible too.

I will explain my genius plan in a second to confirm myself so that I'm not miss lynched.

[Unknown1234]

Unknown1234's craaaaaaaaaaaazy solution to not being joker and to almost guaranteeing a Joker lynch!!!!!

Step One: Lynch SuperJack.

Honestly, this step could be on anyone in the pool, including me, although it would be stupid since I've almost made a perfect plan to confirm myself. I suggest SuperJack because Gyrlander does not come across as the Joker to me at all.

Step Two: Detective #1 On Unknown (Doesn't matter, although I assume Voss would want to be Detective #1 because he scum-reads me).

This is to assure that they can track my night actions and make sure that I don't do any funny business. Of course, none of this is relevant if SuperJack is Joker but anyways it confirms I'm not Joker so that's okay with me.

Step Three: Detective #2 Uses WIFOM. The target of Detective #2 is NOT to be said publicly. The reasoning is because it almost forces the Joker to target themself if they want to frame me as a possible Joker. If they don't even submit an action, then it confirms me as non-joker.

Step Four: Unknown WIFOM.

This is the best part. Unknown gets to visit whoever he wants, but he doesn't tell anyone else. The reasoning is that the Joker has only one target, which means that he would have to pick the exact same target as me or else I would be confirmed. I HIGHLY DOUBT the Joker can pick up in my master WIFOM skills, and EVEN if he somehow managed to guess who I would target and targets the same target as me, I would 100% accept the lynch because the Joker has mad skills. It would also be obvious that the Joker followed my plans because he'd be forced to bomb himself which eliminates one night kill (since he wouldn't kill himself) and reveals him when I would flip Town.

I don't think there are any flaws in this plan. Let me know if any parts are confusing but this is gud plan.

[Unknown1234]

Unknown1234's craaaaaaaaaaaazy solution to not being joker and to almost guaranteeing a Joker lynch!!!!!

Step One: Lynch SuperJack.

Honestly, this step could be on anyone in the pool, including me, although it would be stupid since I've almost made a perfect plan to confirm myself. I suggest SuperJack because Gyrlander does not come across as the Joker to me at all.

Step Two: Detective #1 On Unknown (Doesn't matter, although I assume Voss would want to be Detective #1 because he scum-reads me).

This is to assure that they can track my night actions and make sure that I don't do any funny business. Of course, none of this is relevant if SuperJack is Joker but anyways it confirms I'm not Joker so that's okay with me.

Step Three: Detective #2 Uses WIFOM. The target of Detective #2 is NOT to be said publicly. The reasoning is because it almost forces the Joker to target themself if they want to frame me as a possible Joker. If they don't even submit an action, then it confirms me as non-joker.

Step Four: Unknown WIFOM.

This is the best part. Unknown gets to visit whoever he wants, but he doesn't tell anyone else. The reasoning is that the Joker has only one target, which means that he would have to pick the exact same target as me or else I would be confirmed. I HIGHLY DOUBT the Joker can pick up in my master WIFOM skills, and EVEN if he somehow managed to guess who I would target and targets the same target as me, I would 100% accept the lynch because the Joker has mad skills. It would also be obvious that the Joker followed my plans because he'd be forced to bomb himself which eliminates one night kill (since he wouldn't kill himself) and reveals him when I would flip Town.

I don't think there are any flaws in this plan. Let me know if any parts are confusing but this is gud plan.

@Voss @Fury @thedougler @The Burning Phoenix @Mesk514 @SuperJack

[Unknown1234]

Also, not sure if I explained it in there but if the joker decides not to visit himself as the first target then he risks himself being seen by a Detective and gets lynched.