S-FM 225: WIFOM Mafia Q

[Unknown1234]

Nvm I got he replaced in

[SuperJack]

I'm not gonna vote fury because Mafia visited him n0 night.
So optimum lynch to hit scum through mechanics is:
Me, Unknown, Gyrlander.

From my perspective, it's either unknown or gyrlander.


But lynch should be either Gyrlander or Unknown.

Unless you have solid proof and reasoning someone else is mafia.
I'll read them both tonight.

[Unknown1234]

Are you assuming you know thedougler won't flip mafia?

[Unknown1234]

I see what you're saying, I still don't agree with what you're saying and it's not even because I'm one of those people.

You are saying That me you and Gyrlander have a chance of being mafia and joker, so therefore by odds we have a better chance of being evil. You basically give anyone you only has a chance of being one a pass until the people who can be both are gone.

I don't particularly scum-read Gyrlander. I know I'm Town, and I don't see you as mafia but maybe joker (even though n1 you visited nobody, the joker also didn't have to visit anyone). So I don't agree with your plan that since we can be both we should just be lynched because there's a higher probability of us being evil.

[SuperJack]

Which is why, you then have to argue, why X makes a better lynch dispite maths saying that the three selected are better.

[Unknown1234]

Which is why, you then have to argue, why X makes a better lynch dispite maths saying that the three selected are better.

That sounds reasonable.

Since there are 4 people in the checking pool, can we go 2 and 2 since nobody can die and it's better not to check the same target?

[Voss]

I'm other detective.

-vote twentywo

[Unknown1234]

Voss you said you weren't Detective.

[Unknown1234]

well i'm not detect.

Who says that?

[Voss]

Just woke up and wasn't going to claim because I had shit feedback. But 1v1v1 situation or getting rid of 22 makes situation work.

I checked mesk last night and realized that it was a dumb thing to do too late as host had already processed night actions.

N1 rachael self visited... tear.

[Voss]

Mesk self visited btw

[Unknown1234]

Waiting to see if 22 cc's that. If he doesn't he's in deep shit.

Why not check me? You had a scum-read on me very early on so I don't understand why you wouldn't have checked me.

[Unknown1234]

So here are my thoughts, and little tidbits from my sorry excuse that I call note taking:

-mesk and superjack are town(iest)
-tpb and ali aren't both mafia
-gyrlander and ali aren't both mafia
-tpb had some more town points
-not reading fury as mafia
-22 is a bit scummy for not backing up ika's claim, though i could maybe see why he'd do it. I would have said i'm not lookout as 22, in his position.

does joker not get to announce new targets??

sorry unknown, you're my #1 scum read atm.

You said this 14 minutes into day 2, so you had time to check me.

[Voss]

Who says that?

I figured 22 to be real detect, and didn't want to make myself a joker target, especially that I had no good info for the town

[Unknown1234]

22 had the exact same info as you.

[Voss]

I submitted my action before reading but finished reading at the start of day2.

[Unknown1234]

This is being resolved now regardless.

[Voss]

I don't recall saying who 22 visited last night.

[Unknown1234]

He said he checked Mesk Twice.

[Unknown1234]

Btw, probably helps to claim more than 3 hours before EOD.

[Unknown1234]

@TwentyTwo are you counter claiming Voss? If no, why did you keep your claim going today knowing that nobody could die and it would actually do nothing but keep voters off of you.

Why did you claim in the first place?

[Voss]

Yeah sorry, again my feedback had nothing to bring to the table, and I figured I was more useful surviving 2 nights.

[Voss]

Also as per the quote from you pulled, I was previously unsettled by the 22 claimed. I'm very happy with this lynch. I'll be checking the thread every 20 minutes or less if someone has qs for me.

[Unknown1234]

Also as per the quote from you pulled, I was previously unsettled by the 22 claimed. I'm very happy with this lynch. I'll be checking the thread every 20 minutes or less if someone has qs for me.

That's fine, there won't be any unexpected actions going on while you're gone. I do believe you're Town though because there's no reason to pull a gambit like this is scum because it leaves you dying next.

[Unknown1234]

-vote TwentyTwo

Switching trains for now.

[The Burning Phoenix]

Just woke up and wasn't going to claim because I had shit feedback. But 1v1v1 situation or getting rid of 22 makes situation work.

I checked mesk last night and realized that it was a dumb thing to do too late as host had already processed night actions.

N1 rachael self visited... tear.

Who is tear?

[Unknown1234]

I'm other detective.

-vote twentywo

@Voss

[Fury]

Sorry I'm late x( and there will be no night kills tonight like we discussed, so revealing today was the optimal town strategy. I frankly believe Voss more than I believe 22. I see we have 2.75 hours until EOD, so I won't be able to really change much. TBP said that stealth visited me night 1, but stealth didn't say anything about me being joker. Considering stealth was the one protecting Alijach hardcore, stealth would have likely said at least something knowing he'd almost certainly die and Alijach would for sure die. If I was joker, then stealth calling me out would have saved 2 mafia on the first day and would have 100% saved Alijach, since Alijach was being accused of being joker.

Since Alijach was the one being accused of being joker, but stealth offered no joker lead against me, then can we not categorically state that I am not joker? If you have any question with regards to this reasoning, then please don't be afraid to ask. @TwentyTwo , @Voss , @Unknown1234 , @Mesk514 , @The Burning Phoenix , @SuperJack , @thedougler , @Gyrlander

[Unknown1234]

Who is tear?

He meant that as in he was crying.

[Unknown1234]

Sorry I'm late x( and there will be no night kills tonight like we discussed, so revealing today was the optimal town strategy. I frankly believe Voss more than I believe 22. I see we have 2.75 hours until EOD, so I won't be able to really change much. TBP said that stealth visited me night 1, but stealth didn't say anything about me being joker. Considering stealth was the one protecting Alijach hardcore, stealth would have likely said at least something knowing he'd almost certainly die and Alijach would for sure die. If I was joker, then stealth calling me out would have saved 2 mafia on the first day and would have 100% saved Alijach, since Alijach was being accused of being joker.

Since Alijach was the one being accused of being joker, but stealth offered no joker lead against me, then can we not categorically state that I am not joker? If you have any question with regards to this reasoning, then please don't be afraid to ask. @TwentyTwo , @Voss , @Unknown1234 , @Mesk514 , @The Burning Phoenix , @SuperJack , @thedougler , @Gyrlander

No, I think that's a fair assumption to make. also, don't waste notification function on people reading the thread it's annoyinggggg.

[Mesk514]

There's only one guy I feel safe parking my vote on for now. TBP really strikes me as possible maf due to his bandwaggoning SJ yesterday then forgetting all about Alijach when calling the mafia.

Mesk is playing very irrationally for town. Agent AND Joker can both self visit, and she is acting personally agrieved that we would even suspect her. I'm not saying she is likely scum, but she seems to think she's confirmed when she clearly isn't. TBP is by far sketchier than anyone else RN, and I prob won't be back for end of day so I'm gonna park on him.

-vote TheBurningPhoenix

Bruh if as joker I self visit, I am putting a bounty on my head. Please stfu with YOUR irrational thinking anot realize I cannot be lynched, especially under a joker push.
Fuck you
Mess with low hanging fruit and you get fucked

[Unknown1234]

Town:
Voss
The Burning Phoenix

Probably Town:
Fury
Mesk

Seems like Town (but maybe not):
Gyrlander
SuperJack

Scummy:
Thedougler
TwentyTwo

In a perfect world where I'm right on everything, TwentyTwo is Joker and Thedougler is mafia (unless somehow whoever replaced in actually submitted a n0 action and then never showed up).

[Fury]

Anyways, is it too late to lynch anyone other than dougler? I still lean town on him

[Fury]

Maybe I only lean town on him because I've been ignorant of his latest posts though. I'll have to reread things.

[Fury]

So I'm going to grab a sub and I haven't reread shit atm, but some people thought voss was scum for behaviors similar to dougler, no? Voss turned out to be a PR though. Surely the same logic can't be used against dougler? He can't be a PR, but that behavior doesn't make him scum. Or maybe I'm just trying to justify my gut when I'm starving to death.

[SuperJack]

-vote TwentyTwo

[Voss]

There's enough people here to lynch 22, he should be the lynch asap

[SuperJack]

There's enough people here to lynch 22, he should be the lynch asap

No. Just make sure he has 2 votes more than others.

But no hammer.

Let him defend if he returns.

[Fury]

-vote TwentyTwo

Switching trains for now.

Oh I didn't even see this post. I thought unknown was still lynching dougler.

[Voss]

-vote twentytwo

[The Burning Phoenix]

-vote twentytwo

[Mesk514]

I'm on the road but I may check in periodically.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHO ARE THE DETECTIVE CLAIMS.... I SEE VOSS AND 22 SO

[Mesk514]

someone tell me who ccd 22 and I will hammer him

[Voss]

-unvote

22 claimed first, pheonix claimed 2nd, i claimed 3rd.

@Mesk514

[Mesk514]

Yeah I'm not voting 22. He got my action correct and I was honestly in my somewhat town pile

[Voss]

Yeah I'm not voting 22. He got my action correct and I was honestly in my somewhat town pile

that's because he's agent.

[Mesk514]

At the very least I think he's a cit who tried to draw out the night kill. Who got lucky with my action

[Mesk514]

that's because he's agent.

If you didn't have any doubt about that you wouldn't have just unvoted

[Mesk514]

-vote the burning phoenix

[SuperJack]

-vote the burning phoenix

He also claims detective.

Just wait for 22 to confirm, and if not lynch him.